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I'm thinking of buying a car charger plug with a usb connection to use with the usb cabel that comes with the diamond.
What output rating should that car charger have?
The one I'm thinking of buying has a output of 5V and 1000mA. I've seen others with 500mA but not sure which one to get?
Does anybody have any idea?
Thanks /Sonny
All up to 2A should work! The charging process with 500mA could be slower. But they will all work!
Just calculate, the original battery has 3.7V with 900mA, that makes 3.33Wh.
So the charging process is never at full capacity for optimal charging of the battery.
With an output of 5V and 500mA the charging should last about an hour or 1 1/2 hours. So I think 1000mA should be more than enough.
Couldn´t find any hint on the original output current of the HTC charger, sorry.
Thanks for the quick reply!
I will go for the 1000mA then, same price anyway
Thanks!!
Just found this in the manual
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 - 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A
/Sonny
Does the Car Charger for TOUCH CRUISE DUAL fit in the Diamond as wel?
Same connector?
Hi all,
Can anyone recommend a high mAh output usb car charger? It has to be one with a detachable USB lead.
The one I have currently takes forever just to charge the device by a 1% increment. It doesn't also seem to provide enough power when for example I have sat-nav/GPS running (the device still drops in battery power).
Thanks.
dont even think....
dont even think about it.... i got a charger that does 2 amps instead of 1 amp and guess what my battery blew up!
So what's optimal/maximum amp rating that I can use?
The one I have I would say is pretty much useless when using battery hungry applications/services.
Just tried to check my existing charger but there is no rating on it.
Would I able right in saying the following:
A charger with a 1000 mAh, would charge my battery by 1000 mA in a hour?
I believe HTC official chargers have a rating of 1000 mAh too right? Mine one may well be 500 I would guess.
How quick do other peoples car charger charge their Diamonds?
sh500 said:
So what's optimal/maximum amp rating that I can use?
The one I have I would say is pretty much useless when using battery hungry applications/services.
Just tried to check my existing charger but there is no rating on it.
Would I able right in saying the following:
A charger with a 1000 mAh, would charge my battery by 1000 mA in a hour?
I believe HTC official chargers have a rating of 1000 mAh too right? Mine one may well be 500 I would guess.
How quick do other peoples car charger charge their Diamonds?
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A charger's specification would never indicate the mAh ( milliamp hour)rating, but would indicate the maximum current it can supply while maintaining an operating voltage (for usb its 5Volts.)
in answer to your question: yes your charger needs to supply more current when you have your Diamond operating and charging at the same time. not all chargers are made equal. some may max out by 500mA, therefore your diamond wont charge at all if its on. as far as I know, most chargers are rated to supply 2A (or 2000mA)
another thing: your diamond uses its own charging circuitry to recharge and maintain its battery. just because a charging adapter says it charges at 1000mAh, i doubt it would actually recharge your battery from 0% capacity to full% capacity in an hour(it just doesnt work that way, and if it did, then your battery could blow up).
as for my own diamond, i seems that it takes around 3-4 hours to get from 0% to full when it is off and using my stock 950mAh.
doing a little math here: 950mAh / 4 hours = ~250mA
therefor in order to recharge your battery, the charging adapter needs to supply 250mA.
but if your diamond is ON and you want to recharge then your charging adapter needs to supply 250mA AND and additional amount of current to maintain your diamonds power.
if youre still able to follow with what im saying here, you may conclude that you just have a DUD charger and you should just buy another one.
as for the other guy who said that a 2Ah charger blew his battery up. I'm a bit skeptical. I think your chargering circuit in your diamond is more likely to fry before blowing a battery up (and if a lithium battery blew up it would have taken out his entire diamond).
Yep, that all makes sense.
By chance, My battery (1800mAH) totally died last night. Put it on car charger and after almost exactly a hours worth of charging, the battery indicated 1% (!) Mind TomTom was running for about 30 minutes of that.
Ok time to buy a new higher rated charger I think. Any recommendations for one with a USB port on it?
Thanks.
i've been looking for one liek that on e-bay as well but i cannot seem to find one. having a detachable usb cord would be nice, but now that i think about it maybe i am better off finding one with a non detachable cable in the event that I dont have a usb cable around.
Yeah, I wouldn't normally mind one with an attached cord but the setup in my car is such that I already have a semi hard wired a usb from a 12v supply and have the [USB] cable hidden then have it pop out near to my car holder.
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Check out Avantek. This charger works so much faster than any other charger I have. My Note goes from zero to hero in no time flat.
I bought a 3 micro usb cables, a wall charger, and a car charger for cheap from monoprice.com
3529 WALL Power to USB Female CHARGER Converter - Black (500mah) 1 $1.67
3523 Car Charger (Cigarette Lighter) to USB Female Converter - Black 1 $1.16
4868 USB 2.0 A Male to Micro 5pin Male 28/28AWG Cable - 6ft 3 $3.66
Subtotal : $6.49
Shipping & Handling Cost : $2.92
GRAND TOTAL : $9.41
They are all in hand and work perfect for power and data!
Fresh50 said:
I bought a 3 micro usb cables, a wall charger, and a car charger for cheap from monoprice.com
3529 WALL Power to USB Female CHARGER Converter - Black (500mah) 1 $1.67
3523 Car Charger (Cigarette Lighter) to USB Female Converter - Black 1 $1.16
4868 USB 2.0 A Male to Micro 5pin Male 28/28AWG Cable - 6ft 3 $3.66
Subtotal : $6.49
Shipping & Handling Cost : $2.92
GRAND TOTAL : $9.41
They are all in hand and work perfect for power and data!
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Damn, those are some nice looking prices.
Monoprice is outstanding for many items. Look at the HDMI cables and wall mounts for TV's. All very good quality. Been using them for years.
slimm13 said:
Monoprice is outstanding for many items. Look at the HDMI cables and wall mounts for TV's. All very good quality. Been using them for years.
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Yeah I have a bunch of HDMIs from them too. I wish they had the mini usb to micro though.
I bought 4 micro usb (3ft, gold contacts, ferrite beads) and the car USB charger. So cheap.
Fresh50 said:
I bought a 3 micro usb cables, a wall charger, and a car charger for cheap from monoprice.com
3529 WALL Power to USB Female CHARGER Converter - Black (500mah) 1 $1.67
3523 Car Charger (Cigarette Lighter) to USB Female Converter - Black 1 $1.16
4868 USB 2.0 A Male to Micro 5pin Male 28/28AWG Cable - 6ft 3 $3.66
Subtotal : $6.49
Shipping & Handling Cost : $2.92
GRAND TOTAL : $9.41
They are all in hand and work perfect for power and data!
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3529 charges at 500mAh, this is close to the charging rate from a USB port (480mAh), so it will charge....but slowly. $1.16
3523 charges at 1000mAH, thats almost the same as the provided wall adapter (980mAh). $1.28
Shop4Tech has a car charget for $2.95 shipped but dont mention the charging current. I'll post back when they reply to my email.
just ordered 2 micro USB cables 3 feet from them for 4 bux! i love monoprice
britoso said:
3529 charges at 500mAh, this is close to the charging rate from a USB port (480mAh), so it will charge....but slowly. $1.16
3523 charges at 1000mAH, thats almost the same as the provided wall adapter (980mAh). $1.28
Shop4Tech has a car charget for $2.95 shipped but dont mention the charging current. I'll post back when they reply to my email.
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With it being only 20mAH over, could that hurt the battery at all?
Bought 2 micro USB cables , and a Micro HDMI cable for varying items.
Total cost with shipping from best buy was close to 65$.
Radio shack 54$
Monoprice with shipping.
9.70
Why on planet earth would anyone look elsewhere.
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With it being only 20mAH over, could that hurt the battery at all?
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The wall charger that came with my N1 lists the output as 1A (1000 milliamps) so it's identical.
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With it being only 20mAH over, could that hurt the battery at all?
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It shouldn't. The quoted current rating (it should actually be mA, not mAH, which is a unit of electric charge or battery capacity) is the max amount of current it's able to supply. If the device on the other end doesn't draw more than that, which our N1s shouldn't, then it's fine. If the N1s WERE to draw more current, the power supply would probably break before the phone.
There's nothing wrong with having a more capacious power supply, and in this case, the car charger would charge our phones faster than the wall charger the OP bought.
Monoprice offers a 1000ma wall charger here, I just went with the 500ma to be safe. I will be using it at work while streaming music so a slower charger is a non issue.
I love monoprice.com The micro USB cables I bought from there look very high quality, very thick, and even has ferrite cores.
Monoprice is my favorite store to buy anything cables. Also the fact that they have thier warehouse 30 mins away from me, means i can pick things up same day. But all it not perfect, thier 3.5mm male to male cables are terrible. At least they have been since the last time i bought 4...
Thanks for making this post... I just picked up two 3ft micro usb cables, car charger, wall charger, S video cable, and 3.5mm to RCA cable... including shipping it came out to under $15!
Thank you so much for this site. I never knew about it till now.
A note about chargers and mAh ratings. My source is the Battery University:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
They recommend for small batteries like cell phone batteries to charge them at less than "1C" (for the Nexus One that would be less than 1.4Amps or 1400mAmps) so these chargers should all be fine.
They mention that charging at higher currents can cause the battery to get hotter. Heat shortens the eventual lifespan of a Lithium Ion battery so "bigger" is not necessarily "better" in terms of chargers. A lighter charge can be gentler on the battery than a beefy charger.
They also mention that higher currents do not shorten the charge cycle by much. At higher currents the battery electronics typically kick the charge cycle into the "topping charge" state earlier and since the topping charge is very slow, it takes longer to get to 100% charge. A lighter charger may take longer to reach the end of the initial regular charge cycle, but it will turn over into the topping charge state much closer to full. Thus, a stronger charger will get you to the topping charge state (i.e. mostly full) quicker, but take almost the same amount of time to get to the really 100% full state.
I typically use a Blackberry charger on my phones - they tend to charge at lower amperage and so induce less heat. I also charge them overnight so even if the charge was slower it wouldn't really matter because 6-8 hours is plenty for any charger to get these phones to 100%, but likely the lighter charging isn't really taking much longer anyway. If I desperately needed to get my phone charged up very quickly during the day then I would definitely use the stock charger or a charger that was stronger, but still under the 1.4Amp maximum recommended current - but if you charge overnight, try using a lower amperage charger for long term battery health...
Charge rate is controlled within the phone. A 1400mA wall charger is capable of supplying *up to* 1400mA. There's no danger with using a higher rated wall charger.
flarbear said:
A note about chargers and mAh ratings. My source is the Battery University:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
They recommend for small batteries like cell phone batteries to charge them at less than "1C" (for the Nexus One that would be less than 1.4Amps or 1400mAmps) so these chargers should all be fine.
They mention that charging at higher currents can cause the battery to get hotter. Heat shortens the eventual lifespan of a Lithium Ion battery so "bigger" is not necessarily "better" in terms of chargers. A lighter charge can be gentler on the battery than a beefy charger.
They also mention that higher currents do not shorten the charge cycle by much. At higher currents the battery electronics typically kick the charge cycle into the "topping charge" state earlier and since the topping charge is very slow, it takes longer to get to 100% charge. A lighter charger may take longer to reach the end of the initial regular charge cycle, but it will turn over into the topping charge state much closer to full. Thus, a stronger charger will get you to the topping charge state (i.e. mostly full) quicker, but take almost the same amount of time to get to the really 100% full state.
I typically use a Blackberry charger on my phones - they tend to charge at lower amperage and so induce less heat. I also charge them overnight so even if the charge was slower it wouldn't really matter because 6-8 hours is plenty for any charger to get these phones to 100%, but likely the lighter charging isn't really taking much longer anyway. If I desperately needed to get my phone charged up very quickly during the day then I would definitely use the stock charger or a charger that was stronger, but still under the 1.4Amp maximum recommended current - but if you charge overnight, try using a lower amperage charger for long term battery health...
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Charge rate is controlled within the phone. A 1400mA wall charger is capable of supplying *up to* 1400mA. There's no danger with using a higher rated wall charger.
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True, but this is neither here nor there with respect to the points in my post.
First, the chargers that people are finding in this thread are lower power than that anyway so they can't provide enough to hurt the battery - whether or not the phone has the protections you mention. Perhaps the phone does protect itself, but the question does not matter unless you are talking about chargers that supply more than 1400mA which they are not.
My other point was that a lower power charger can charge the phone with less overall heat and extend the battery life. The phone will protect itself from damage, but charging close to 1C - while safe - doesn't help the battery last the longest it can.
I just bought the SBH 20 today and i wonder can i use other charger or power bank to charge this SBH 20?
I see the wall charger come with the SBH 20 with input 150mA and output of 850mA.
was thinking to use XPZ wall charger with input 250mA and output of 1500mA, will it damage my SBH 20 if i charge it with XPZ wall charger? don't feel like bring so many wall charger when travel.
oh, my power bank is 7800mAh with 1 output port 1A and another 1.5A. can i use the 1A to charge?
Thanks in advance.
andrew_wang916 said:
I just bought the SBH 20 today and i wonder can i use other charger or power bank to charge this SBH 20?
I see the wall charger come with the SBH 20 with input 150mA and output of 850mA.
was thinking to use XPZ wall charger with input 250mA and output of 1500mA, will it damage my SBH 20 if i charge it with XPZ wall charger? don't feel like bring so many wall charger when travel.
oh, my power bank is 7800mAh with 1 output port 1A and another 1.5A. can i use the 1A to charge?
Thanks in advance.
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You can allways use a charger with higher Amps (mA).
Only importent thing is you have 5V.
Using an output with higher Amps sometimes reduces charging time.
Mixermachine said:
You can allways use a charger with higher Amps (mA).
Only importent thing is you have 5V.
Using an output with higher Amps sometimes reduces charging time.
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i saw the power bank and other is 5.3V, does it matter?
how about using usb charging from laptop/desktop?
Sorry for being stupid, as I'm not IT expert.
andrew_wang916 said:
i saw the power bank and other is 5.3V, does it matter?
how about using usb charging from laptop/desktop?
Sorry for being stupid, as I'm not IT expert.
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If the device is properly designed 5.3V is no problem.
IIRC the stock wall charger is 1,5A (1500mA). It will theoretically charge the 2,3Ah battery in roughly 1h 32min.
The word "charger" is a bit misleading, because it actually is just a power supply. The actual charger is built into the phone. The phone will regulate the current (amperage) and charge the battery using the most suitable current. As long as the power supply is rated at 5V, it doesn't really matter if it's a 1,5A or a 5A power supply. The phone will take what it needs and nothing more. The power supply will not "force" any amperes into the phone.
Charging via USB from the computer will take longer, because USB ports on computers only give a maximum of 0,5A. The theoretical charging time will therefore be three times longer than with the stock wall charger. Repeated charging at such low currents is not recommended. It's best to use a power supply with enough current and let the phone do the rest.
In other words: You can use just about any Micro USB wall charger, as long as it's of sufficient amperage (not too low). I would also stay well clear of the cheapest chinese chargers. You never know what they will do.
I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
See how what you have now performs. The best/fully compatible would be Samsung own charger. And any decent quality cables
I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
pjaysnowden said:
I use my original charger from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 on my S22 ultra. It charges it about 90 minutes. I suspect this is the same charger as yours.
1.67amps x 9v is 15.03watts.
5.00apms x 5v is 10.00watts.
15 Watts is a nice steady rate to be charging your battery at.
45w...is really too fast if you want your battery to last more than 2 years.
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long (assuming that you want the battery to be at it's "full" capacity after 2-3 years).
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45W is nothing and won't really degrade your battery much. Also, keep in mind, that batteries degrade regardless if you use them or not, they have a shelf life. So, in 2-3 years you will mostly need to replace your battery anyway if you plan to keep your phone for that long.
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Even still...I'll keep slow charging my phone...knowing that it will last 5 years.
My note 4 battery outlasted the actual phone. The touch screen packed up first. The battery still lasted 6 hours screen on.
I replaced it with a Note 9. Again...the battery was fine...and original. Same story...6 hours of screen on time.
Now I have a Note 22....or S22 Ultra.
I have used the Note 4's charger for all of these phones...with my 10watt Kosee wireless charger. Even on the Note 4...with a wireless adapter.
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45W is nothing...
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It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
Renate said:
It's still 10 Amperes into the battery.
I'm often running ~10 Amperes into my dual 224 Ampere-hour 6 Volt "golf cart" batteries.
They also weigh about 130 pounds more than your battery!
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It doesn't push 10 Amperes into the battery.
PPS charging is pushing from 3.3V to 20 Volts at 2.25Amps, it's dynamic charging and it depends on the device's state (temperature of the battery, the charger, the capacity of the battery).
I'm not sure where you get this information, and not trying to be rude now but maybe you should check up on both PD and PPS charging protocols that Samsung uses before assuming it's charging at 10 amps.
Dougmeister said:
I have some Anker brand USB-A to USB-C charging cables and just the wall wart (is there a technical name for those things?) from something... probably one of my old Samsung phones... it says "Adaptive fast charging" and output says "9.0 V === 1.67A or 5.0 V === 2.0 A".
( know that stands for "volts" and "amps", but I don't understand what the rest of it means... 2 Amps is "faster" than 1.67 Amps... I think... but what makes it charge at one speed or the other?)
My real questions:
1) Will using the USB-A to USB-A cable that came WITH the Galaxy S22 Ultra make a difference in charging speed?
2) Do I need to get a different "wall wart"? If I want one that supports USB-C plugging into it, I do, but will it gain me anything?
Thanks.
Edit: I guess tehnically it's an "AC Adapter" or a "power supply brick"...?
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1. With Galaxy S22 there is an USB-C to USB-C cable not USB-A (maybe a typo on your side). That cable is rated for the full power charge the device supports, that is 45w. It can make a difference if you are using it with a proper charger (that's the actual naming for the "wall wart"...it is called "charger" or "wall charger" btw).
2. Yes, you should get a different one if you wanna charge faster. Your actual charger is a (so called) "fast" charger with the charging power varying from 15W to 10W. Your phone supports from 25W up to 45W, that are the "ultra fast" chargers.
I'd suggest to get at least a 25W charger, also there are some extremely good Anker alternatives (even better that original Samsung chargers), look for Nano II 635 or 615 Anker chargers.
If you wanna keep your phone for an extended period (like 4-5 years or more), you might wanna activate that battery protection charge that only charges it till 85% and will preserve it for a longer period. If you switch phones after 2, even 3 years, don't bother, charge it as you like fast or slow till 100%
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I'm not sure where you get this information...
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If the charger is rated at 45 Watts and sometimes actually delivers that:
45 Watts / (maximum) 4.3 Volt battery > 10 Amperes
Maybe they are PWM-ing it or whatever, but the peak current is > 10 Amperes.
Ok, we can subtract the efficiency of the buck converter, but it's still in that neighborhood.
What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
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What would happen if I bought and used a 65-watt charger? Would it automatically drop down to 45 watts to charge my S22 Ultra? Could it damage it, etc.?
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1.Q. Yes.
2.Q. It not gonna damage it if not pushed to full 100% or discharged completely before connecting.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but is there a decent wireless charger, that will give me fast wireless charging with a Spigen powerarc arcstation pro 65w charger? I have tried about 3-4 cheap crap ones, and they all give reg wireless charging of about 22% for an hour's charge.
The S22U‘s maximum wireless charging rate is only 15 watts. I use the Spigen PowerArc ArcField 15 watt wireless charger, which is powered by a conventional charger via USB C cable and works very well charging my S22U.