Based on feature set, availability and price my reasearch has led me to this phone with the RAZR as a second choice(pentile screen, waker battery, no FM). The RAZR has better development though(incl kexec). I'm hoping to run ICS as a daily driver in the very near future and JB/CM10 down the line. What do you think?
Price-wise it's the best phone you can get. I myself owned a HTC magic and then a nexus one and can confirm that the build quality is solid. Webtop is also a great feature.
Rom-wise we've stock/modded ICS and soon ported CM10. But don't expect to unlock the bootloader. If you can live with it, buy it
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Keep in mind, this is one persons opinion, but personally, I love this phone. We have 2 ICS Leaks, and CM10 is right around the corner.
It's mainly your preference, but i'd say just to be sure you want this phone, read all that you can from this forum.
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Cool. How does the Boot menu manager work for multiple Roms on one phone?
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Cool. How does the Boot menu manager work for multiple Roms on one phone?
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Bootmenu is great man. With it, you can essentially dual boot so to speak. Check the thread out, it tells you ALMOST everything you need to know. Something's you can read around the forums and find answers to. I've become pretty familiar with it, so if you have any specific questions feel free to ask me.
Also others are here to help too
By the way, just a heads up, this should be in Q&A
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By the way, just a heads up, this should be in Q&A
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Heh Heh Heh......... That's my boy :victory:
Thread Move in progress.
Oh, BTW, threw a couple thanks to you 2 for great advice to the new people. Way to go!
If you can live with a locked bootloader I don't see why not, the specs are decent, screen size is pretty good and overall quality is nice. We have ICS (leak), a few custom roms, and CM10 is being worked on (I believe camera isn't working just yet). Mine is currently softbricked because I got into a bootloop and my battery is low , but that's easy to fix once I can charge the battery, which I'm being patient with and not doing anything risky and potentially harmful to the battery or phone. In conclusion, if the price is right, it's a pretty decent phone, with a locked bootloader (Always a catch)
Hmm. How about making a bounty or making a collection for a donor device to a dev? Just thinking out loud...
The only feature I'm missing that a custom kernel might solve is 2-way call recording. I think...
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Hmm. How about making a bounty or making a collection for a donor device to a dev? Just thinking out loud...
The only feature I'm missing that a custom kernel might solve is 2-way call recording. I think...
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We have a bounty for someone who can unlock the bootloader. And yea custom kernels and all that jazz would require an unlocked bootloader.
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Atrix 2 ordered:laugh:
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Atrix 2 ordered:laugh:
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Haha hellz yea. Hope you enjoy it man.
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You won't be disappointed. This is only the second phone I've owned in 16 years that I haven't wanted to destroy after a couple months of use.
Is the lack of support from Motorola annoying? Sure, but the amount of support from the developers and everyone in this community is all you will need. Whether you stay on Gingerbread or upgrade to the ICS leak, there are plenty of amazing ROMS and mods to play with.
Just make sure you read through the forums (especially the stickies) and familiarize yourself with phone and the community.
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Thanks guys. At least ICS leaks point to official release in the works unlike my other Motos.
damn, i was just about to sell you mine :laugh:
This is a sweet phone why do you want to sell it?
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Hi, all. I currently have an Epic 4G. But it is broken, (mic and phone speaker don't work at all) so I am entitled to a warranty replacement. This was an Asurion replacement so I talked to them. I asked them to give me a Nexus S 4G instead and I got it without too much problem. The rep I was talking to said he couldn't do it but his boss said yes without hesitation (maybe I should have asked for an Epic Touch 4G instead and seen what happened but I digress). If I am lucky the phone will arrive tomorrow but probably the next day.
Anyway, I am hoping that I can get some advice on this phone. How to root it? What Roms/Kernels are the best. Ect.
Thank you very much!
About which roms or kernels are the best, there's not an easy answer to that. Being the developer phones, the nexus line has a lot of people working on the source. This is good and bad, because there are a lot of cool things you can get on your phone, but a lot of stuff will not work. Often times there will be a tradeoff between getting bleeding edge updates and having a stable system.
That being said, NANDroid backup is your best friend. Before every flash, backup your entire phone's state. Then if nothing works, restore your backup and it is like nothing ever happened.
Well to start off, and always a good impression, is to search for the first request. Shouldn't be hard to find a thread about rooting a NS4G or a YouTube video. Just looks better on you.
As far as ROMS go, well Cyanogenmod is a well respected name in that realm. Also you could pick from any of the other hundreds of ICS Roms. Just make sure you get it from the Nexus S "4G" forum.
Dig around in the forums. Shouldn't take long to find a thread with the topics you are asking about.
Good luck and welcome to the Nexus club.
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Best ROM hands down is gummy nexus. I promise you, you WILL not find a better ICS ROM for the NS4G. The kernel baked into the ROM is Mathkids 14.5 and works great.
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And the is currently a one click root method in the NS4G forums. Check it out.
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dtugg said:
Hi, all. I currently have an Epic 4G. But it is broken, (mic and phone speaker don't work at all) so I am entitled to a warranty replacement. This was an Asurion replacement so I talked to them. I asked them to give me a Nexus S 4G instead and I got it without too much problem. The rep I was talking to said he couldn't do it but his boss said yes without hesitation (maybe I should have asked for an Epic Touch 4G instead and seen what happened but I digress). If I am lucky the phone will arrive tomorrow but probably the next day.
Anyway, I am hoping that I can get some advice on this phone. How to root it? What Roms/Kernels are the best. Ect.
Thank you very much!
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Unlock boot loader as soon as possible because it will erase everything on your phone including SD card.
As far as ROMs you've gotta use a ICS ROM. There's lot of great GB ROMs but you're not getting a Nexus to be stuck on last year's OS. CM9 Is currently my favorite. Lots of other ROMs have more tweaks like quad and octo locks but CM9 is the smoothest for me. But try em all, why not?
As far as kernels there are a lot of good options. Personally I like Steve Garden's latest. Has the best colors without using Voodoo so there's no annoying green flash when locking. But again, try em all!
Oh... and how to root? Well, it's basically "fastboot oem unlock" "fastboot flash recovery whateverrecoveryyouchoose.img" and flash the SU binary in recovery. Or just flash a ROM.
*if you didn't wipe /system and /boot it is NOT A FULL WIPE* (relax, it's a signature)
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Best ROM hands down is gummy nexus. I promise you, you WILL not find a better ICS ROM for the NS4G. The kernel baked into the ROM is Mathkids 14.5 and works great.
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Agreed 1millon % that's what I run. Can't find anything better. Rom is super stable and battery life is insanely good.
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It is all depend on how much budget you have. If you have a high budget, I would say look at the Galaxy Nexus instead. Otherwise, the normal Nexus S is good enough. There aren't many 4G carrier available, and you won't need 4G in daily life.
I come from an epic. No regrets whatsoever. The only wins the epic has over the ns4g are the better camera, and speaker. Also the epic seems to get better 3g and 4g reception. Other than that everything else is so much better. Development included.
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+1 to what rush said. I had to bring my epic in for repairs but they didn't have any refurbs so the sent me a nexus. Check out shabby's one click root and there is also a one click unroot. Qbking has some good videos of various roms also.
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Great read! I too am a new comer here, coming from the misfit phone Droid X2, which was a decent phone, but with no unlockable bootloader, will never reach its potential, but we had great devs that made some decent roms with what they had. But anyways I'm really liking this phone so far, & with unlockable bootloader & so many roms, I'm feelin all goody like a fat kid in a candy store! Lol And seems like a good community here
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+1 to what rush said. I had to bring my epic in for repairs but they didn't have any refurbs so the sent me a nexus. Check out shabby's one click root and there is also a one click unroot. Qbking has some good videos of various roms also.
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One click roots ****ing pwn!! And yes, the nexus community seems a lot nicer and douchebag free unlike a few other forums. *cough* EVO 3d *cough*
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GummyNexus is good, I just don't like the visual changes. I would go with Bigxie's ICS Rom. That, combined with the Matrix 14.5 kernel set to lulzactive is perfect. 9 hours unplugged and I was at 86%.
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oICS v43 is good too, but I am thinking of giving gummy another try. I've been hearing that it's doing quite well and oICS hasn't been updated in awhile(although it is reportedly still in development.)
great phone! im coming from a evo 4g and didn't want to use my upgrade so I bought this phone off ebay. Loving it so much. I think I'm stuck on nexus phones from here on out (^_^)
Yeah advice is get an epic touch lol better phone. Better battery. But its not free like the nexus is right now. My advice, get free nexus from sprint online and then just grab the galaxy nexus when it drops later.
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Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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So I've received the HTC One S a few days ago (not the One X + because tmobile doesn't like nice phones) and I'm falling in love with it! So I guess this means goodbye, at least for a while. I'm sure this is good news for most lol. If it's any conciliation, the HTC one S development thread is horrible!! It has no personality what so ever and no one objects when others ask for ETAs which is something I've grown to genuinely love about this community Hopefully Bhundven and his team successfully port jelly bean (and have TV out working) but I'm sure a few weeks after, there'll be a mass migration back to ics in favor of a more "stable rom." lol Anywho good luck guys, the Samsung Galaxy S 4g will always be in my heart!
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Have fun.
You aren't a troll truly, but you had a lot to learn. U wish you loyal.
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Have fun.
You aren't a troll truly, but you had a lot to learn. U wish you loyal.
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Thanks man I appreciate that
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I've also been eyeing that phone... I think the One X is too big, and the One S is much closer to the size of the GS4G, which I like very much. I've also checked out the One S forums, but am still on the fence, especially since my phone works so well with these custom roms, I really don't have a great reason to upgrade, other than trying something new..
please report back how you like it (or send a PM if you don't want to clutter up the board here).
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I've also been eyeing that phone... I think the One X is too big, and the One S is much closer to the size of the GS4G, which I like very much. I've also checked out the One S forums, but am still on the fence, especially since my phone works so well with these custom roms, I really don't have a great reason to upgrade, other than trying something new..
please report back how you like it (or send a PM if you don't want to clutter up the board here).
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Yeah honestly I can't stress to you how awesome this phone is! The display is super bright, the resolution is also pretty good so don't worry about qhd complaints specially since you're coming from the S 4g display. The camera is professional quality and it preforms well day to day. If you don't like sense you can always install apex or a stock aokp ics rom but I happen to like sense personally specially the widgets and customizations. The rooting method, like for most htc phones, is significantly harder. There is another thing called S-off which has hindered development for the phone. There are still plenty of roms to play around with (including jelly bean!) but the installation is pretty tricky so for instance, you'll need to use a command prompt to flash something called a boot image to install any time and it's easy to brick. There are other new terms you'll need to learn of course. Don't let this scare you. One of the best things is the battery life (Both onscreen and stand by). The sheer performance is out of this world for example it can be over clocked to 2.1 mhz! Trust me when I say you won't regret having this phone! I've even heard from some it's better than the one X
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Thanks for the info. I think I may get one off ebay when I come back from vacation. I remember being super scared about flashing my GS4G, but after lots of reading I now flash the phone without thinking, so I'll be sure to read up on the 1S.
if I do end up with a 1S, I'll be sure to offer up my GS4G here for development
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Thanks for the info. I think I may get one off ebay when I come back from vacation. I remember being super scared about flashing my GS4G, but after lots of reading I now flash the phone without thinking, so I'll be sure to read up on the 1S.
if I do end up with a 1S, I'll be sure to offer up my GS4G here for development
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Haha that's noble
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Thinking about switching from the mytouch 4g. Good idea?
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Very much.
Blaze is easier all around dev-wise cause it comes with an unlocked bootloader & great devs in the community.
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Very much.
Blaze is easier all around dev-wise cause it comes with an unlocked bootloader & great devs in the community.
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I hate to be that guy but could you recommend a solid Rom with no bugs
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I hate to be that guy but could you recommend a solid Rom with no bugs
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Any ics spin offs don't have SoD's if not try dr4stic 's cm10 as he is the only fixing issue to the kernel and upstreaming them his cm10 might be the most stable rom jellybean wise
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I hate to be that guy but could you recommend a solid Rom with no bugs
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Tweaked 2.1 my daily driver. Big ups to Dwitherell, and really everyother dev in these forums without them i'd still have a stock bloated pos.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965232
For myself CM 10 it is very stable I myself have had no SoD's and nothing major or no "bugs" that bother me. Dr4stic has done a great job and with new nightly's coming practically every night we might have a stable CM 10 very soon. Sum it up yes switchmy opinion lol.... and Erikmm is also very helpful in our little community.... just the truth people. Hope you make the right choice... what is he other option if you don't mind me asking? :highfive:
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For myself CM 10 it is very stable I myself have had no SoD's and nothing major or no "bugs" that bother me. Dr4stic has done a great job and with new nightly's coming practically every night we might have a stable CM 10 very soon. Sum it up yes switchmy opinion lol.... and Erikmm is also very helpful in our little community.... just the truth people. Hope you make the right choice... what is he other option if you don't mind me asking? :highfive:
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I'm actually getting the blaze today. On the mytouch I was just sticking with gingerbread cause jelly bean and even ics would have to many bugs or just not be quick and smooth enough to make the transition out of gingerbread worth it. I'm really hoping to at least find a smooth ics Rom on this phone with no bugs
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I'm actually getting the blaze today. On the mytouch I was just sticking with gingerbread cause jelly bean and even ics would have to many bugs or just not be quick and smooth enough to make the transition out of gingerbread worth it. I'm really hoping to at least find a smooth ics Rom on this phone with no bugs
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If you want a stable cm10... well its right around the corner. Been testing 2 kernels for dr4stic, and both are rock solid. No sods NOTHING. Can't imagine it getting much better than this. You'll have a vast selection to choose from when you decide what's best for you. If you find something you like don't hesitate to hit thx or donate to any of these great devs. Let's keep this community strong by showing these devs how much their truly appreciated. Cheers to all
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If you want a stable cm10... well its right around the corner. Been testing 2 kernels for dr4stic, and both are rock solid. No sods NOTHING. Can't imagine it getting much better than this. You'll have a vast selection to choose from when you decide what's best for you. If you find something you like don't hesitate to hit thx or donate to any of these great devs. Let's keep this community strong by showing these devs how much their truly appreciated. Cheers to all
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it came stock with 4.0.4 can anyone point me to a root guide for that?
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it came stock with 4.0.4 can anyone point me to a root guide for that?
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Check out erikmm 's how to in the dev section very easy to follow
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Check out erikmm 's how to in the dev section very easy to follow
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Well I rooted and flashed the tweaked ICS ROM and so far it doesn't seem like a huge improvement from the my touch 4g. Its a solid ROM just was expecting more from this phone being that its newer and on paper has a better processor
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Well I rooted and flashed the tweaked ICS ROM and so far it doesn't seem like a huge improvement from the my touch 4g. Its a solid ROM just was expecting more from this phone being that its newer and on paper has a better processor
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Should've went with a jelly rom...
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Well I rooted and flashed the tweaked ICS ROM and so far it doesn't seem like a huge improvement from the my touch 4g...
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Should've went with a jelly rom...
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... *sigh*
Coming from sense ROM, it'll take some time, dwithrell, don't worry.
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dwitherell said:
... *sigh*
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Not knockin your work, your awesome. Just telling him what I prefer, please don't think I meant anything else by it. Apologies for not explaining.
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Coming from sense ROM, it'll take some time, dwithrell, don't worry.
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Good point, hadn't thought of that actually.
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Not knockin your work, your awesome. Just telling him what I prefer, please don't think I meant anything else by it. Apologies for not explaining.
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No worries. ICS is no JB that's for sure, and truth be told ALL the awesome options available to the Blaze should be tried out! That's the great thing about having such options - you can start choosing based on preferences as opposed to basic functionality. I'm a smali hack at best - I would consider the other tinkerers for the Blaze to be far more qualified of a "developer" title than I really - so folks should really make sure to test the various waters as you never know what you might be missing!
Smali hacking isn't easy lol. I've learned a lot from you dwitherell
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Theirs nothing wrong with the ROM. I just haven't seen anything so far that makes this phone noticeably better than the mytouch 4g which is what I switched from
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Theirs nothing wrong with the ROM. I just haven't seen anything so far that makes this phone noticeably better than the mytouch 4g which is what I switched from
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Well single core to dual core, NFC, slightly larger screen, 4g 42mbps, larger capacity battery, and adreno 220 are things that I would consider better. At my dad's house near Minneapolis I can pull 20+mpbs on 4g...
But at the end of the day, you still are running android and that's not going to change much... and if you liked sense than you will likely not like TW. No guarantee that you also wouldn't like aosp either (my wife doesn't - she prefers sense). My wife has a sensation 4g and I see a major difference between her phone and my blaze. I prefer the blaze, because of those features listed (and access to the sd card without having to dissemble the phone to get to it) and I prefer TW (using TW5 launcher) to any sense rom. Sense just seems bloated to me and the Blaze just seems to be more responsive.
But hey, they're just phones and everyone is entitled to their own opinions and can like whatever they choose to like
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Well single core to dual core, NFC, slightly larger screen, 4g 42mbps, larger capacity battery, and adreno 220 are things that I would consider better. At my dad's house near Minneapolis I can pull 20+mpbs on 4g...
But at the end of the day, you still are running android and that's not going to change much... and if you liked sense than you will likely not like TW. No guarantee that you also wouldn't like aosp either (my wife doesn't - she prefers sense). My wife has a sensation 4g and I see a major difference between her phone and my blaze. I prefer the blaze, because of those features listed (and access to the sd card without having to dissemble the phone to get to it) and I prefer TW (using TW5 launcher) to any sense rom. Sense just seems bloated to me and the Blaze just seems to be more responsive.
But hey, they're just phones and everyone is entitled to their own opinions and can like whatever they choose to like
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I'm actually running CM7 on my Mytouch 4G. I agree with you on sense feeling bloated. As far as the screen size, when I put the phones next to each other you really can't notice an increase in size.
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I'm due for an upgrade in a month, is the Razr M still a good choice? Or should I spend the extra cash for the S3
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I'm due for an upgrade in a month, is the Razr M still a good choice? Or should I spend the extra cash for the S3
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The S3 all the way. Just the development support for this phone is awesome. That is all I need. Lol
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jdub251 said:
The S3 all the way. Just the development support for this phone is awesome. That is all I need. Lol
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All I really need is CM.
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Both phones are really good an both running jelly bean. I'm sure as the user said above, the sgs3 has more development being the more popular phone. But that's irrelevant if you don't plan on rooting and modding your phone.
Best bet is to play with them in hand. Both offer similar performance which hardware difference such as screen size, navigation keys vs hardware keys, etc. I can't always use my sgs3 with just one hand. Depends what I'm doing. My gf has the RAZR m and everything can be done one hand.
IMO, the sgs3 is the better device. Bigger screen, and camera. But the form factor and edge to edge screen of the RAZR m is awesome once you pick it up.
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I hate the Motorola phones but I have to admit as phones you can have a clear phone call and not drop the call. The S3 even after the JB update still has issues. Not everyone has that problem but if you read the forums, certainly enough do that you might want to consider it.
P3droid has one, if it can be hacked, he's the guy to do it. He's been kinda quiet lately about it. Maybe he's done. Give him a follow on Twitter.
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Motorola phones are not so great if you like to root & flash roms. I came from a Razr Maxx. I know this. And the Photon on Sprint can't even function fully if you unlock the boot loader. It's ridiculous with Motorola phone's.
If you want a smaller phone and a UI that's close to stock Android, go with the Razr M. If you want a phone that has better features, more user friendly functions, great camera, good wireless radio, and good development, go with the S3.
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I wouldn't touch a Motorola phone with a ten foot pole.
i will admit, that, while i love my S3 and would NOT trade it for my wife's RazrM, i do get jelous sometimes with her better reception. IN the same exact place, she has a better chance of hooking up with a weak reception than i am. HOWEVER, i do love all the DEV support the S3 has, all the tweaks and various hacks on it. SO would still pick the S3 over the Razr M for that reason alone.
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I was in this exact scenario a month ago. I tried the Razr M first and didn't like it for three big reasons: 1) the camera is horrible. I don't know how they messed that one up so badly, but they did. 2) The phone was really slow on ICS. I'm not sure how much better it is on JB, but it was driving me nuts. 3) I actually didn't find the reception to be that great.
The S3 has better specs and better dev support as mentioned, but it is a bigger phone. At first that is why I went with the Razr M but I ended up being a very, very happy S3 owner. Everything from the camera to speed to especially the dev support... all awesome.
Thanks for your input, but I'll be going with the M.
The S3 feels like crap compared to the M, and the compact device fits my smaller hands perfectly.
Both devices are equally fast and speedy.
As dev support goes, I'll just have to port some good ROMs.
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Enjoy your purchase!
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I hope Sammy steps it up with radio issues on s4. And also I wish they would include some kind of castlevania code to unlock the boot loader and stick it to verizon
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I hope Sammy steps it up with radio issues on s4. And also I wish they would include some kind of castlevania code to unlock the boot loader and stick it to verizon
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What radio issues? - the S3 is perfect and works better than any other phone on the market! JK Someone usually posts this sort of defensive thing when I mention the crappy radio on the Samsung phones with Verizon, I'm glad others mention it as I hope somehow that feedback will get back to Samsung and they will improve the radio as I really like their phones otherwise.
I think the Radio issue is a hit or miss on the S3. I have no issues. I get better reception in bad areas with my S3 than I did with my Razr Maxx. But I probably got lucky with a good one. I use to have the S2 on Sprint and I know exactly what people are talking about when they say the radio is bad. That phone was the worst for wireless radio.
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