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Jumped from Nexus One to Thunderbolt

So what do you think, was this worth it. I think so.
This is what I weighed when I made my decision to switch: (impulsively maybe)
(1) Storage
Nexus One - 512mb (half taken up by OS), I provided a 16gb MicroSD (needing more, debated a 32GB for the past 4 months)
TB - 8gb, Comes with a 32gb MicroSD
(2) Network >
Nexus One - T-Mobile
TB - Verizon
(3) Monthly Bill >
Tmobile - Went up $10 three months ago to $130month
Verizon - 99.95 month
(4) Network Features and Coverage >
Tmobile - Normally getting EDGE Network, Spotty 3g, No 4G, Voice coverage not really that good either
Verizon - Strong 3G spotty 4G, Best voice coverage hands down of any provider
(5) Customer Service >
T-Mobile - Arab guy practically needed a translator to talk to me (kept asking me to repeat my self because he didn't understand)
Verizon - Cute sounding southern bell answered the phone and took care of my question fast and directly, no putting on hold to ask some one else and definitely didn't need a translator.
(9) Processors
Nexus One - 1ghz Snapdragon
Thunderbolt - 1ghz Scorpion
Pretty much a tie here I think. But from I could see at the Verizon Store and My current N1 using quadrant Thunderbolt (1870) slapped my N1 (1175) and then showed it who daddy was. Sorry N1 lost again.
(10) Phone Size (This was my biggest concern, pun intended)
Nexus One - Attractively big enough for any feature I want (Perfect size for a smart phone IMO)
Thunderbolt - A little on the big side with the screen being nearly .5 inches bigger as well the phone size being about the same width and height wise.
(11) Dev Support
Nexus One will probably devour any phone in the category
Thunderbolt should pick up the pace as it matures
(12) OS (Gingerbread AOSP Vs. Froyo Sense)
Nexus One - Gingerbread AOSP Stock or Tons of different Custom Roms, Google Supported of course (Reason for the N1 Love). Nice, clean and absolutely no BLOAT
Thunderbolt - Froyo with Sense. Honestly I love sense. Coming from and AOSP build and I couldnt be happier. I love the added widgets, the layout of sense is phenomenal, recent apps in the pull down is awesome. It just looks great. TONS OF BLOAT WARE though.
(13) Feature Set
Nexus One - APPS to SD (A must have for this phone), Free WIFI Tethering, Standard type Android settings menus, Trackball notifications (handier than I would have ever thought), Compatible with nearly any app that hits the market, call blocking support via Cyanogen MOD
Thunderbolt - APPS to SD (not even needed), WIFI Tethering with Paid subscription to VZ (downer, but possibly free with ROOT), Settings menus are not standardized with AOSP Android Releases making them a new learning curve
(14) Accessories
Nexus One - Packed Full of what ever you need, but need to find it on Ebay since most places are no longer carrying accessories for the phone.
Thunderbolt - Already a flooded market of accessories (major plus)
(15) Battery Life
Nexus One and Thunderbolt are about the same. N1's never got that great of battery life either. After my battery leveled off on my Thunderbolt, it has been pretty comparable.
So far this is the homework I have done to help with my decision. The monthly cost was not really a deal maker or a breaker for me since I was allready comfortable with it. The fact that T Mobile sold off to ATT is a little disheartening to me and leaves me anxious as to what I can expect from the most notorious of all the major carriers. That is what finally pushed me over the EDGE and in to the LiTE.

Yeah...the AT&T purchase made me switch from T-Mobile too..... but where do you get EDGE,let alone 3G!??!!? I always get GPRS with T-Mobile(Haven't canceled YET,trying a data only/VOIP plan on VZW).

I had a G2 and a Nexus one before coming over to Verizon. The phone is nice and dev is moving along considering the phone has only been out for a week. At least we know there will be a working sense Rom, cm7, and hopefully a miui build. To me theses were the bug three I'm worried about.
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Actually Verizon has given TBolt users free mobile hotspot until May 15th.

I miss my multicolor LED trackball. More phones should have one.

jamesfrom818 said:
I miss my multicolor LED trackball. More phones should have one.
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Agreed... the notification was sick, but other than that I love the TB.
Regarding the vote... I just switched from the N1 last weekend, and it's already up for sale... http://bit.ly/fucAf9
That's how happy I am with this device!

Ddgarcia: miui is the one im waiting for. And n_i_x from the dinc forums who did all the miui ports has a bolt, so it shouldnt be long
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Only time I had called customer service and had someone hard to understand was when it was billing (collections cause I forgot to pay my bill) other than that almost always some chipper sounding girl or some guy sounding extra chill (read stoner)
And sucks you live somewhere with such spotty service, I live in Houston and had good 4G service. I switched cause I started having data freezes and AT&T buying them sold me.
Also what kinda plan did you have costing that much? I had 3 lines and it was only 160/mo.

I'm on flexpay 1400 mins family. It was $120 and without notice went to $130.
I get hsdpa if in Milwaukee. But if I leave to a smaller town I get nothing. Major problem for me when traveling.
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Actually Verizon has given TBolt users free mobile hotspot until May 15th.
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Then they stab you with there tethering subscription.
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I actually just dropped Tmobile for Verizon and the bolt. I did it for both the merger and because I wanted to get in on Verizon's Blistering fast LTE network before they went to tiered data. I wanted a grandfathered Unlimited plan.
Well that and the fact that I couldn't any service at all at my college, and crappy edge at home.

I just jumped from a N1 on ATT to the Tbolt. The only thing I miss is CM7 which we should get on the Tbolt soon enough. I don't miss ATT's spotty coverage. I find the Tbolt to be significantly more snappy than the nexus since I started running the new virus rom. The LTE speed and coverage in the DC area also blows away the N1 on ATT.

If you read consumer reports, Verizon has the best coverage, hands down across the country.
I finally decided to stop defending T-mobile and the spotty coverage. I paid T-mobile 79.99 per month for service and could only use what I paid for when at work.
Now I will pay Verizon 76.00 per month (including insurance). I get less minutes but at least I can use the minutes I have when I need to. Also with the strength of the Verizon LTE coverage in Atlanta, I should be able to make VOIP calls with Sipdroid, and Google Voice, and have people be able to hear me.
I finally decided, why pay for a service I can only use under certain circumstances.....

Switching from T-Mobile today. Going to miss my Nexus one. I have very fast HSPA+ service where I live. (suburb of Boston) The buy out just freaked me out. I own 4 phones, G1, BB9700, MyTouch 4G and the Nexus One and they will all become paper weights. That is why I am pissed off. I paid full price for every phone and you can be sure AT&T will not give me 4 devices to make up for the ones I bought. I figured I would jump on the unlimited data plan while I can and enjoy that blazing speed. I have the Verizon LTE working in my area. I am very excited about my new phone. Going to the local Verizon store in my town and buy me some Thunderbolt action. Then it's back home to root it. I was a die hard T-Mobile customer who enjoyed their Network and their customer service has always been nothing but first class to me. I'm hoping Verizon will be a great experience for me. Thinking about a future with AT&T and their lousy data capped plans doesn't sit well with me. I absolutely loved my Nexus One on T-Mobile. I changed Roms like underwear and will miss that. T-Mobile really let their customers down IMO. It was just a couple of weeks ago when I heard someone from T-Mobile say "T-Mobile USA is NOT for sale".

Yeah when you look at ATT's data plans they cap you at 5gb, that will easily be eaten up by slacker radio, pandora and soon netflix or streaming from your home computer.

Thinking Of Moving To The Thunderbolt Opinions Wanted

Longtime GSM user, both AT&T and T-Mobile. I have a terminal aversion to CDMA but LTE looks intriguing. I use, roughly, between 13-20GB per month. Voice usage is almost nonexistent. I do text frequently.
I've been eyeballing a fellow coworkers Thunderbolt. (I'm also enititled to a 20% discount through work.) My questions:
Are you guys happy with your Thunderbolts? Like the screen? Does the LTE SIM work like GSM, just find another LTE phone pop and go? (I phone hop like mad!) LTE coverage in Ohio is actually pretty good. Your ETF is $350? (Once the AT&T&T mereger is done 12-16 months down the road I may switch back. Any general thoughts to add?
I'm happy to listen to anyone!!

I was a longtime ATT user (and Cingular before that, THOSE were the days) before switching for the TBolt. I enjoy the screen, better than my old Blackberry and since I mainly use texting/email on it instead of video, I actually prefer the screen to a SAMOLED. In theory, LTE SIM switching should work, but there hasn't been another LTE VZW device to test that with (another week and we'll know). And yes, ETF is $350 now, just like ATT.
Out of curiosity, why would you switch back soon down the road? ATT's (even if they acquire T-Mobile) "4G" technology is so far behind LTE that it's laughable. That's why I switched, ATT spent too long dawdling around not really improving their network infrastructure, at least where I live.

I use about 120 to 80 Gb monthly now that this is my only net connection. The best thing about it is the price monthly. I'm paying for a data only plan which is 50 a month unlimited before my 25 percent discount. For texting I use Google voice app and I have GV forwarded to a sipgate #, running SIPdroid on the tbolt to get my calls. Result is unlimited calls text and internet tethering for 37 bucks a month. Ya the phone ain't cheap upfront but it really is like having a cable modem in your pocket. I love it
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I just got the T-bolt and I am impressed. Although I have not tasted any 4G yet, it is a very solid phone. The battery life is not great, but that is to be expected of such a device. Getting a bigger battery seems to be the only option. I love the screen and cannot wait to watch movies on it! Waiting for a netflix app

bmstrong said:
Longtime GSM user, both AT&T and T-Mobile. I have a terminal aversion to CDMA but LTE looks intriguing. I use, roughly, between 13-20GB per month. Voice usage is almost nonexistent. I do text frequently.
I've been eyeballing a fellow coworkers Thunderbolt. (I'm also enititled to a 20% discount through work.) My questions:
Are you guys happy with your Thunderbolts? Like the screen? Does the LTE SIM work like GSM, just find another LTE phone pop and go? (I phone hop like mad!) LTE coverage in Ohio is actually pretty good. Your ETF is $350? (Once the AT&T&T mereger is done 12-16 months down the road I may switch back. Any general thoughts to add?
I'm happy to listen to anyone!!
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The LTE SIM does not work like GSM just yet. Verizon has it on a white list. They have to approve the device it will be in. They say that they are adding approved devices all the time but not sure which devices have been added. I think they are pushing more for the LTE SIM to be taken out of your phone and you put it in a camcorder, DSLR camera and make the devices shoot live feeds. I had read this on howard forums. I would love for HTC have it where you could custom build your phone and just pop in the LTE sim card. Just think pick your own screen, ram, internal memory, speaker, etc.
howardforums.com/showthread.php/1703825-Thunderbolt-and-ALL-future-4G-VZW-devices-require-a-UICC-SIM-card.

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I remember hating verizon for crippling the bluetooth on my v710? swearing never to go back. I've been GSM since cingular dropped tdma and I switched my 3360 and got a 6620. Then winmo starting with an htc wizard up until an HD2 that I converted to android. Wife has gone from thinking I'm nuts to giving up on my smartphone crack habit. Been mostly cingular/AT&T with a few bad romances with Tmo where I think "this time the reception will be better" (last time cause I really wanted the HD2). Then I walk out of the lumber yard and get 4 voicemails all saying generally wtf are you??
Then along comes the thunderbolt. I'm currently carrying an tmo HD2 running android and cause it's better than my fuze... a hacked beyond belief iphone on att. A friend hands me his verizon phone and I walk through my 7 story concrete/glass office building with the verizon, at&t, and tmo phone all showing signal strength. Tmo fades early as expected. There's a few times where verizon gets beat but most of the time it's got a 5 db advantage.
So a saleslady at the verizon store loans her thunderbolt and I try it in a fringe area (my house). Coverage is better with the thunderbolt and while at&t speedtests better and seems to load faster initially, verizon never hiccups and pauses like at&t and loads every single webpage before at&t completes.
So then the pro's cons.
I have 7 gsm phones all unlocked that I can bring up either att or tmo on but my att contract is up and my tmo is just a $5/mo family line that I just use text on.
unlimited data. I dont have 4g here but it's a chance to grandfather in on unlimited high speed data. Previous calls to at&t complaining about having 4 iphone non-tech unlimited users on my plan where I'm the geek yet I'm the only one without unlim data fall on deaf ears. I may not use the 5 gig I've got but it's a pain having to worry.
Verizon? Really? After laughing at people who were forced to use get it now to get their pictures off their phone? After swearing never to return when they crippled the firmware on the v710? And CDMA?
But the lure of unlimited data gets me to try a thunderbolt. I get in on a 1 year contract and I too get a healthy discount.
Fast forward 3 weeks. Rooted & flashed a non vzw rom after 4 days. 14 day return day came in went without a thought. The iphone is in my desk and the tmo hd2 will probably get turned into a winmo phone when I get time just to see if it's more than an xbox facebook extension. I find there are many times I havent even bothered to turn on wifi since web pages load without pauses, hiccups or waiting. Was going to hold out for a dual core but I've got no complaints. The screen colors seem much more vibrant than my hd2. I got the extended battery but even with not being able to put the phone down be it texting or internet I still last all day on the regular battery. Besides, by now I've got a usb charger about every 5 feet at home.
very tough call and it took a lot to get past going back to verizon and cdma but I'm glad I did. Sorry if I stepped on any toes windows phone, iphone, tmo fanboys, and grammar nazi's. Just MHO. Got a microcell to help not drop calls and still do on att. Verizon goes without extra help and doesnt drop calls. Texts are quick but break at 160chars. I use the phone to monitor several production unix machines so quick sms was imperative.
Drop me a line if you have other q's. I'm generally a lurker but always up for helping. Feel your pain in deciding..

Well this is my first smartphone so I don't have any comparison. But I love it. Love the screen and it's 4.3" of manlyness. I really never understood why people have such animosity for CDMA vs GSM. Yes I get the whole SIM card thing, but is that the only reason?

For me, it was the problem of no data while on a call. Never again AT&T, never again.
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Longtime GSM user, both AT&T and T-Mobile. I have a terminal aversion to CDMA but LTE looks intriguing. I use, roughly, between 13-20GB per month. Voice usage is almost nonexistent. I do text frequently.
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Just curious, but what do you have against CDMA other than you cant port to other carriers as easy as GSM? I found CDMA voice is generally better than GSM. The ThunderBolt still uses voice for CDMA so other than it being fast for data over what is considered GSM, it's still pretty much a CDMA phone in the sense it's locked to verizon (probably more so since you cant take it to other CMDA carriers either).
ATT will be going to LTE sometime next year as well though, so eventually when phones are using LTE for voice and data, you would be able to switch between carriers (assuming they both support the same frequency of LTE, there's 2 of them) and different phones on the same carrier

I love my tbolt. I went from a D1 to the TB, and was a little scared of leaving all the great ROMs, kernels and support on my D1 (was running CM7 nightlies with the deprimed kernel on droidforums and that thing ran more amazing than it ever did) but made the jump to get in on 4G before a rumored switch to tiered plans. And I couldn't be happier, I do miss CM and prime's kernels, but the devs have been putting out some great things on the TB. Adrynalyne and thatdudebutch have an amazing ROM with das BAMF 1.5 remix and I'm running imoseyon's lean xtreme kernel. And since development is young on this phone, I can only see it getting better

I wish I could recomend this phone over my Droid x but the battery life is so pitiful in comparison. Don't get me wrong I love the thunderbolt and having 4g is nice (Seattle) but having to be tethered to the wall on charger almost constantly is just annoying. My Droid x would go all day and had better outdoor visibility. The auto brightness on the tbolt is wack. The new blur on gingerbread also puts sense to shame. Onevgreat thing about the tbolt is the camera is really good and very fast. While the Droid x takes great shots it slow to snap them.
In short I'd recomend the Droid x over the thunderbolt.

My upgrade is in 4 days, and im thinking of the thunderbolt, i have no 4g in my area, they say by the holidays maybe.
That being said i love my incredible but want a bigger screen, is this work upgrading or should i wait until the next 4g phones come out. I only want an HTC phone.

yareally said:
ATT will be going to LTE sometime next year as well though, so eventually when phones are using LTE for voice and data, you would be able to switch between carriers (assuming they both support the same frequency of LTE, there's 2 of them) and different phones on the same carrier
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I have heard that AT&T will *not* use the same bands as Verizon. Here is an article stating something less general, but indicative of this discrepancy:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ice-wont-roam-verizons-lte-network/2010-10-26

jakaro said:
My upgrade is in 4 days, and im thinking of the thunderbolt, i have no 4g in my area, they say by the holidays maybe.
That being said i love my incredible but want a bigger screen, is this work upgrading or should i wait until the next 4g phones come out. I only want an HTC phone.
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Personally, I think it's worth it. The thing's fast, smooth, and powerful (insert joke here). It works well on 3g, and when 4g comes to you (or you travel to a 4g market), you will DEFINITELY not regret it!

I would consider waiting on galaxy 2. That thing looks like a complete beast.
Not you fat Jesus

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I wish I could recomend this phone over my Droid x but the battery life is so pitiful in comparison. Don't get me wrong I love the thunderbolt and having 4g is nice (Seattle) but having to be tethered to the wall on charger almost constantly is just annoying. My Droid x would go all day and had better outdoor visibility. The auto brightness on the tbolt is wack. The new blur on gingerbread also puts sense to shame. Onevgreat thing about the tbolt is the camera is really good and very fast. While the Droid x takes great shots it slow to snap them.
In short I'd recomend the Droid x over the thunderbolt.
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Get the extended battery my phone now lasts 30+ hours when my Droid X would be luck to last 15 even with liberty installed.
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Im just curious to what dual core phones will be coming out by HTC. I am also worried about these random reboots.
One other thing, but how is the developer community on this phone, im sure its huge being the only 4gphone.
Edit: make that second on vzw

Since it's verizon a dual core htc is a year away lol
And samsung is samsung...
Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix

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One other thing, but how is the developer community on this phone, im sure its huge being the only 4gphone.
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The dev community here is freaking awesome. They've been busting ass to get stuff working, tweaked, and corrected. Great group of guys.

Alrighty then, anybody have the extended battery, how does it feel, i love mine on my incredible.
Well, my Incredible is up on Craigslist, if i sell it ill be on the thunderbolt!

Probably leaving T-Mobile.. any suggestions based on rooting options??

So I'm over T-Mobile and their crappy reception in my area.
I've had work tickets opened for trouble-shooting in my area and nothing..
I've written to corporate and was basically told either deal with it or pay the termination fee.. this 2 days after re-newing. Little did I know that you cant cancel as soon as you renew a contract, unlike when you open a new line (Thanks for NOT telling me that T-Mobile).
Anyhow, I'm probably gonna sell my Sensation, my wife's Galaxy S 4G, and our niece's Vibrant to pay the cancellation fees, and look to go elsewhere.
Verizon & Sprint seem to have the best reception in my area, but I like rooting my phones and I'd like to know, what phones or service have the more options when it comes to rooting??

wait... you are not even getting 2G ? as in EDGE?
you can certainly ROAM for free in the USA, back then when i was living there even when i get no 3G i can still roam just fine in 2G and get reception everywhere where 3G did not reach without additional charges

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wait... you are not even getting 2G ? as in EDGE?
you can certainly ROAM for free in the USA, back then when i was living there even when i get no 3G i can still roam just fine in 2G and get reception everywhere where 3G did not reach without additional charges
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Well the reception is so choppy that in and around my condo, the reception goes from 4G to Edge, to nothing, to edge, and back n forth - ALL DAY around my place! I literally have to cross the street to receive a picture message!!
I've just had it with all that and the fact that I kinda got duped by the freakin Loyalty dept themselves, I'm over T-Mobile.

AllGamer said:
wait... you are not even getting 2G ? as in EDGE?
you can certainly ROAM for free in the USA, back then when i was living there even when i get no 3G i can still roam just fine in 2G and get reception everywhere where 3G did not reach without additional charges
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Before I moved all I got was gprs sometimes. Most times I had to use wifi calling to make a call or stand by the street to talk. People could get 3 bars of AT&T 3G in my house.
Now I've moved and get full T-Mob coverage, but the 3G speeds are worse than Sprint and Verizon.
We plan to drop them soon, especiallyvafter they changed our rate plan and tried to extend our contract another.year.behind our backs and charged us $50 in minutes overages because their MyAccount app shoes the wrong minute used value on every phone.
Then lied about the rate plan change and told me there was a note on the account saying we were notified. After cussing her out for about 5 minutes I hung up in her face and called back. The next person fixed it probably just tobget me off the phone. I was fuming.
I'm going back to AT&T. They had much better customer service and infnitely better coverage. I don't mind paying more for piece of mind. Also, I want true unlimited mobile to mobile calling. Not T-Mobiles gimp version cause no one else except the people on my plan has them, anyways.
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I would get a Sgs2 of you can (At&T) or the sprint one. If the big (bad) red is your thing then the Razr seems to be the best from my useage. I work near a red store and Have gone to 2 and tryed both the razr and the 720p HTC and the razr seems more use able to me, but the S2 on AT&T H+ was able to = or beat them in loading web and video. The HTC could not even play 1080p video right and the first one I tryed at the store near me booted up and before I could do anything it went off for good.( I have never seen a phone do that in a store.)
I like AT&T now even if my speeds of 3-5mb is not as good as the 2.5-15mbs of LTE. P.S Yes I did a speed test on cnet and my phone got 3.8 and the HTC got 2.5. I don't think was right, but you never know.

Well in your area it could be complicated would not use Sprint their service is unreliable, so pick your poison, ATT and get bumped off alot from over crowding or Verizon and get over charged and deal with cdma
BTW, I have a friend who owns a percentage in the Arsenal team.....
You could get a booster for your house, TMO offers them, or you can buy a grey market one and THAT will solve alot of your problems.
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So I'm over T-Mobile and their crappy reception in my area.
I've had work tickets opened for trouble-shooting in my area and nothing..
I've written to corporate and was basically told either deal with it or pay the termination fee.. this 2 days after re-newing. Little did I know that you cant cancel as soon as you renew a contract, unlike when you open a new line (Thanks for NOT telling me that T-Mobile).
Anyhow, I'm probably gonna sell my Sensation, my wife's Galaxy S 4G, and our niece's Vibrant to pay the cancellation fees, and look to go elsewhere.
Verizon & Sprint seem to have the best reception in my area, but I like rooting my phones and I'd like to know, what phones or service have the more options when it comes to rooting??
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T-Mobile us

I had T-Mobile for over six years and threw the years service had gotten bad. All the big company's offer 4g lte the real 4g and we got hspa. Fake 4g. It feels like 3g at best. T-Mobile starting to charge for tethering and raised the price on plans. I started to think me and my Verizon friend pay almost the same a month for unlimited plans. I try my best to defend T-Mobile but I have nothing to brag about prices as high as the other companies which was the reason I been here so long . We don't get nearly as many good android phones as other. T-Mobile put out almost the same phones two months after they release a new phone example. I bought a Samsung vibrant then they come out with a galaxy s. Same phone but that had a Ffc . I buy the sensation then they conme out with the amaze. Same Damn phone with a different camera. Recently I saw a phone called the blaze, which is just the galaxy s 2 with a smaller screen. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about leaving T-Mobile . Why we pay extra for 4g when we are not getting 4g. T-Mobile should market it as 3.5g with 4g speed at times. Im surprised no one sued them yet.
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I had T-Mobile for over six years and threw the years service had gotten bad. All the big company's offer 4g lte the real 4g and we got hspa. Fake 4g. It feels like 3g at best. T-Mobile starting to charge for tethering and raised the price on plans. I started to think me and my Verizon friend pay almost the same a month for unlimited plans. I try my best to defend T-Mobile but I have nothing to brag about prices as high as the other companies which was the reason I been here so long . We don't get nearly as many good android phones as other. T-Mobile put out almost the same phones two months after they release a new phone example. I bought a Samsung vibrant then they come out with a galaxy s. Same phone but that had a Ffc . I buy the sensation then they conme out with the amaze. Same Damn phone with a different camera. Recently I saw a phone called the blaze, which is just the galaxy s 2 with a smaller screen. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about leaving T-Mobile . Why we pay extra for 4g when we are not getting 4g. T-Mobile should market it as 3.5g with 4g speed at times. Im surprised no one sued them yet.
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That is because they can't sue. Nothing guarentees you will received 4G speeds at all times.
I have considered leaving them as well but stay with them for a multitude of reasons.
1 - Affordable
2 - For what I use my phone for (Mostly Data and Texts not so much talk) they do fine
3 - If I go over 2GB because I stream DI.FM a lot they don't charge me $10 bucks when I go over.
4 - Verizon is too expensive for what I get, ATT isn't much better, and the service for Sprint here sucks

Definitely prefer tmob over the rip offs of the other carriers.

I get 12-13 Mb/s in Houston/Mission bend area.
Sounds pretty fast to me considering I can download 100mb in about 2 minutes.

I would be shocked if a member of XDA actually pays for tethering, regardless of carrier. If so they need their member card revoked for not reading any of the threads.
I have T-mo and I get 7-10mb downloads typically so I'm very happy with my speeds. I tether my G-tab and laptop regularly without issue or extra expense.
I rarely have dropped calls but they happen. I'm not sure any carrier is immune no matter what they say.
I do believe VZ will have better service, but since it's marginal for my situation I'm sticking with T-Mo.
Everyone's situation is different. A good example is I had no need for a FFC on the Vibrant. It's probably one of the best phones I've ever owned. Also great to learn rooting on since it's very hard to brick. Amazing phone. My brother didn't get the S2 because it's humongous so I may recommend the Blaze if it's the same.

Tmobile = GANGSTAAA
tmobile has cheap prices and the new phone thing is just bad luck on ur end lol
prices are awesome! i dont care i we dont have real 4G i care how fast it is if its faster than real 4g i dont care if its 2g but its fast lol

http://www.moneycrashers.com/how-i-got-out-of-my-t-mobile-contract-and-saved-200/. Hope this could help you, I'm trying to get out of my contract too. It makes no sense to pay for a service that is not being received.
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First, HSPA+ IS 4G. As much as LTE is 4G. If you're looking at HSPA, that is 3G. Second, I bet you could put a phone like the Amaze with its 42 mbps radio up against most anything else... if you were in the top market for both (HSPA+ 42 vs. LTE). Hey, my Sensation with a tiny 14.4 radio can out do LTE in the right location.
But hey, if Tmo is no longer the company for you, feel free to choose another carrier. That's the beauty of competition.

My last phone was an AT&T iPhone, so I know all about slow mobile internet. HSPA+ is at least slightly better in my area, but not by much. I'm on contract so I haven't really considered leaving, but maybe I'll think about it some more when commitment is up... In 2013.
No LTE does suck, but ah well.

Thinking of leaving sprint, would like some opinions.

I have been with sprint for 8 years now. Just got the M8 for the new spark network that according to sprints coverage map, I was fully covered in. We'll, that's not the case. Been having a lot of problems, mainly if I drop to 3g, I actually have no data and no phone calls and can't send texts. Apparently this is a mass problem that could be a while to fix. I still have ten days to return it and reverse my contract. I would like to know from those of you on Verizon, how the service and speeds generally are. Sprint is so bad that if I'm somewhere I don't know where I'm at and try to pull up a route on maps, it will fail to pull anything up, or search for a route until it says no connection, even with 4 bars. It's hard for me to leave since I've been with them for 8 years, but I'm really getting tired of it. Also I would like some opinions on if I should get the phone through Verizon itself or best buy. Reason I ask is when I bought my original HTC one I went through 3 of them, all for different hardware issues. Each time it was a hassle. Had to go to different stores, call sprint, one store even said I was lying about my LTE not working on the phone and that I don't have LTE in my area, even tho the previous one got LTE.

Varekai said:
I have been with sprint for 8 years now. Just got the M8 for the new spark network that according to sprints coverage map, I was fully covered in. We'll, that's not the case. Been having a lot of problems, mainly if I drop to 3g, I actually have no data and no phone calls and can't send texts. Apparently this is a mass problem that could be a while to fix. I still have ten days to return it and reverse my contract. I would like to know from those of you on Verizon, how the service and speeds generally are. Sprint is so bad that if I'm somewhere I don't know where I'm at and try to pull up a route on maps, it will fail to pull anything up, or search for a route until it says no connection, even with 4 bars. It's hard for me to leave since I've been with them for 8 years, but I'm really getting tired of it. Also I would like some opinions on if I should get the phone through Verizon itself or best buy. Reason I ask is when I bought my original HTC one I went through 3 of them, all for different hardware issues. Each time it was a hassle. Had to go to different stores, call sprint, one store even said I was lying about my LTE not working on the phone and that I don't have LTE in my area, even tho the previous one got LTE.
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Where are you located?

Spring hill, FL

download open signal or sensorly from the market it should give you a idea of the coverage Verizon or hell even sprint offers in your area before you decide

I was in your exact position a week ago. I had been with Sprint for 12 years and it almost felt like cheating on my wife going into a Verizon store. I am in Austin, TX which has been one of the first markets to get network upgrades. When I first got the EVO LTE it was about 6 months before I saw my first LTE signal and it was at work. The speeds were GREAT....for a few months. Once everyone got an LTE capable phone it was all downhill and speeds went to crap. Anytime I traveled I had the same problem with getting maps to work, like you described. I had to pull into a Starbucks or McDonald's to get WiFi to figure out where I was going. I finally had it last weekend when both my wife (iPhone) and I couldn't get any data to find the nearest oil change place while sitting at an intersection of two major highways on a Sunday morning. We could have hoped for better service with the Spark network but it just seemed liked deja vu all over again.
I went into Verizon store that had the phone I wanted (M8) and they would give my wife $210 on her iPhone 4s trade in along with $100 per line activation. I switched over and even though its only been a week I am amazed. I am getting LTE on Verizon where I couldn't even get 3g on sprint. And the LTE speeds are about 3-5 times better than I got on Sprint. I don't have unlimited data anymore but having an unlimited amount of something that never works is worthless. I'm paying the same amount for a 4 GB plan now BUT IT WORKS! Based in the performance I've seen the past week I just feel stupid for not doing this sooner. All my favorite apps that require data just start working immediately (e.g. steaming music or video). I mistakenly thought there was only a subtle difference between carriers but I was wrong. Just check out rootmetrics.com (HUGE help). You won't be sorry you changed.
TLDR: Sprint sucks. Change carriers. Don't look back. M8 rocks.
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I think we all know by now what carriers can deliver. If anyone is traveling in mostly rural areas Verizon or AT&T is your best option. For overall coverage Verizon wins hands down, but you pay more for it. I live in the city of Atlanta and every carriers has great coverage in the heart of the city. Which makes me want to switch T-Mobile because I would save about $40, but whenever I take a road trip I'm reminded why I pay for Verizon and deal with locked bootloaders, and of course my unlimited data. While I love Verizon, I also love flashing ROMS. Verizon doesn't help us at all in that regard and it's something to consider IMO. Most people don't know you get university discounts on carriers and it's usually 15%, which has me looking at AT&T also knowing I'd be giving up unlimited. [emoji30]
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I was in the same boat you are. I am in Western NY and had Sprint for almost 12 years and was relatively happy with the service *for the price* until 4G/LTE was being rolled out by all of the carriers and they left Sprint in the dust (in my area). I've had THREE 4G capable phones in the last 5 years (Evo, Evo 3D, Evo 4G LTE) and didn't see any 4G service in my area until late last year. Just last week I started getting a 4G signal at my house - one bar and DL speeds were around 1 Mbps. Furthermore, I was paying the monthly $10 fee for the 'smartphone experience' and never saw any real ROI.
I went to Verizon yesterday and picked up an M8 on the $60/1GB plan. For me, 1GB is just fine as i'm on WiFi 80% of the time and i'm good at monitoring my data usage. Service-wise I get a full signal at my house and 30Mbps DL speeds. I'm not looking back.

Thanks for the replies. I downloaded the apps and will check them out. Bootloader being locked down was mentioned, does this mean you can't unlock it with HTC Dec unlock to s-off and root? I don't know if I can live without rooting. Also does Verizon give a hard time about exchanging a rooted device? I know people at sprint store have always given me a hard time with it.

Well according to those two apps, sprint actually has better 4g from where I live to where I work.

I was with Sprint for 10 years. I live in Naples Florida. About 2 years ago the big news was all the 4G LTE towers that were going up. When they lit ours up, it was spotty at best. My service was always terrible with Sprint. I had the EVO 4G lte when the service went live, but it wouldn't hold a 4g signal. I was due for an upgrade when the M7 came out, so I got one. Same crap. When Verizon came out with the M7, I decided to give Verizon a try. I think I had the phone for about 10 minutes when I decided to cancel my contract with Sprint and go with Verizon. To this day I still cant get over how much better the service, especially the data is. What good is unlimited data if it hardly works?

I also left Sprint for similar reason. It has all been hope and not much to show in the end. I live is the greater Los Angeles area. When I first switch to Sprint was because their family plans were actually priced well and the discount I was getting made my 2-line family plan with unlimited everything for $110 a month, compare to other carriers.
As to.e went by and policies have changed, being that their data plans are $30, I now only get discount on the data (Verizon does the same). I was barely getting a $3 discount.
Their 4G WiMax was good but spotty. Their 4G LTE now was also ok but spotty. And I really didn't want to hope that their spark will be any better in terms of coverage.
My company gives me a Verizon Android base phone. In which it has work so damn great and that's what it made me switch to Verizon now on my personal line.
Sprint 2 lines - employee discount = $155 a month
Verizon 2 lines - employee discount = $147
I do get 22% discount because of my employer.
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I've had Sprint for the past 10 years & finally gave them the boot. Well almost, I'm still stuck with them for another week or so since I'm waiting for my M8 to come in. I went thru best buy and they had to order the phone. My wife & kids are on Verizon now and absolutely love it. On Sprint, we have to use an airave just to make calls in the house. On Verizon, they have full bars on 4g lte. Without the airave, I'm lucky to to have 1 bar. It's the same at my work. In fact, I'm better off setting my phone to roam. I get Verizon 3g because of the PRL I use. On Sprints network, maybe a bar. I've complained numerous times to Sprint, and they don't really care. All they kept saying was that lte is right around the corner. They've been saying that for a few years now. If I'm going to spend this kind of money for 4 smartphones I'd like to be able to use them to their fullest.

I loved Sprint when I first had my original EVO. But the WiMax was virtually nonexistent, and when I bought my first LTE phone it was nonexistent for a year but I still had to pay for it. That was the first major strike, and as of the last year with them the LTE coverage was terrible, and due to that and their crappy 3G I couldn't even stream music the whole way home from work, it would drop out. Sooo, me and the wife decided it was time to go. Contracts up this year, and when the M8 was announced we got new phones that day. I'll never look back. LTE all the time with like two exceptions, and I get about 25 Mbs in downtown St Louis. Plus, we paid about $200-210 per month on Sprint and now we pay about $160-170 on Verizon. Well worth it.

Maps rarely tell the store. Why don't you purchase a new verizon line and try it. Don't port your number just yet. All carriers have a 14 day return policy and a 3 day zero cost guarantee. If you cancel within 3 days you pay nothing, between 3 and 14 you only pay for the partial month service and activation fee. If you go through a 3rd party like Best Buy Mobile, there are no restocking fees either.
This way you can see for yourself how it works. If you decided to keep the carrier, call them up and have them port your old number over the top of the new temporary number.

I'm at Ocala Fl, had Sprint for ten yrs no matter how much I tried to ignore the network,it's just too slow. Any emergency I need like us I g Google maps quick, it just took for ever. I've been in Verizon 3 yrs and love it, I hate that they are more strict with rooting and unlocking but their 4g???? Solid every where I go. I have the Dish Network app that I can watch cable anywhere I go and because of 4G, the quality it's awesome
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I left sprint also, their LTE speeds where great at first, now the suck.
From West palm beach, Florida

Varekai said:
I have been with sprint for 8 years now. Just got the M8 for the new spark network that according to sprints coverage map, I was fully covered in. We'll, that's not the case. Been having a lot of problems, mainly if I drop to 3g, I actually have no data and no phone calls and can't send texts. Apparently this is a mass problem that could be a while to fix. I still have ten days to return it and reverse my contract. I would like to know from those of you on Verizon, how the service and speeds generally are. Sprint is so bad that if I'm somewhere I don't know where I'm at and try to pull up a route on maps, it will fail to pull anything up, or search for a route until it says no connection, even with 4 bars. It's hard for me to leave since I've been with them for 8 years, but I'm really getting tired of it. Also I would like some opinions on if I should get the phone through Verizon itself or best buy. Reason I ask is when I bought my original HTC one I went through 3 of them, all for different hardware issues. Each time it was a hassle. Had to go to different stores, call sprint, one store even said I was lying about my LTE not working on the phone and that I don't have LTE in my area, even tho the previous one got LTE.
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I had the exact same problems as you with my Sprint HTC One M7 and switched to Verizon late last year. It's been a WORLD of difference. I too was sick and tired of hearing Sprint talking about launching 14 different 4G networks and getting charged for them only to never receive the service. Verizon's coverage is so much better, I don't drop any calls anymore and my connection is actually usable. Even when I only have a bar or two of service I can still access the data network which I sometimes couldn't do when I had 4 bars on Sprint. It was also a bit cheaper for me to switch as I had two unlimited my way plans on Sprint costing around $180 a month whereas with Verizon I can have two lines with 4G of data (more than enough considering I was used to always connecting to WiFi because Sprint's network was so bad) for $150/mo.
Seriously, make the switch. Sprint is awful.
P.S. I paid TWO large ETFs to get away from Sprint. That's how bad I wanted to get away from them.

The 3 different times I tried Sprint, in 3 different parts of the country, it was so slow I couldn't stand it.
Both AT&T and Verizon are light years ahead of Sprint, based on my experiences.

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I had the exact same problems as you with my Sprint HTC One M7 and switched to Verizon late last year. It's been a WORLD of difference. I too was sick and tired of hearing Sprint talking about launching 14 different 4G networks and getting charged for them only to never receive the service. Verizon's coverage is so much better, I don't drop any calls anymore and my connection is actually usable. Even when I only have a bar or two of service I can still access the data network which I sometimes couldn't do when I had 4 bars on Sprint. It was also a bit cheaper for me to switch as I had two unlimited my way plans on Sprint costing around $180 a month whereas with Verizon I can have two lines with 4G of data (more than enough considering I was used to always connecting to WiFi because Sprint's network was so bad) for $150/mo.
Seriously, make the switch. Sprint is awful.
P.S. I paid TWO large ETFs to get away from Sprint. That's how bad I wanted to get away from them.
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I did this morning. Went from .03mb to 223mb on speed test at work. Unfortunately I'm having a problem with the phone locking up. Twice I hit the power button abd screen wouldn't turn on I had to hold power ablnd vol buttons to reboot

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