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Apple patenting Hydrogen fuel cells

I was reading a couple of news stories that state apple is trying to patent Hydrogen fuel cells for mobile devices. I was thinking "Congratulations Apple that is the type of innovation we need." However then I learned that Apple not only does not have a working prototype or a solid methodolgy, But they are patenting the fuel cells because they are following another research groups work that will make Hydrogen fuel cells more feasable. Unless Apple gets its act together and finances its own reasearch into this field and comes up with a working methodolgy and solution I believe this patent application should be thrown out, and the ACTUAL reaserchers granted all patent protection.
Article on apples patent application http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Pate...l+CellPowered+Mobile+Devices/article23589.htm
Article talking about the researches apple is preying upon: http://www.dailytech.com/Researcher...en+Fuel+Cells+More+Practical/article23164.htm

Well that's just great. They'll probably get what they want, they always do. The whole patent system needs to be redone.
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hungry81 said:
I was reading a couple of news stories that state apple is trying to patent Hydrogen fuel cells for mobile devices. I was thinking "Congratulations Apple that is the type of innovation we need." However then I learned that Apple not only does not have a working prototype or a solid methodolgy, But they are patenting the fuel cells because they are following another research groups work that will make Hydrogen fuel cells more feasable. Unless Apple gets its act together and finances its own reasearch into this field and comes up with a working methodolgy and solution I believe this patent application should be thrown out, and the ACTUAL reaserchers granted all patent protection.
Article on apples patent application http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Pate...l+CellPowered+Mobile+Devices/article23589.htm
Article talking about the researches apple is preying upon: http://www.dailytech.com/Researcher...en+Fuel+Cells+More+Practical/article23164.htm
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Hmmm...Hydrogen fuel cells already exist. Apple didn't invent the technology.

maybe hydrogen fuel cells as battery in mobile phone or tablets...

That's evil apple. Unless you are in talks with the other research group about it, that's just evil to take someone else's idea.
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Ideas are just words
If they want to patent a hydrogen fuel cell for phones,good for them. Someone needs to do it but they cannot patent something they do not have. You don't actually have to build the thing to get a patent. You do, however, have to be able to describe it in such a way that someone COULD build it.
An idea and a dollar might get you a coke but working schematics are the real brass ring here.

they better not grant patent to Apple for a tech they did not even invent.
ridiculous.
hydrogen fuel cell tech should be available to all for benefit of all.
typical Apple shenanigans...

Nuenjin said:
If they want to patent a hydrogen fuel cell for phones,good for them. Someone needs to do it but they cannot patent something they do not have. You don't actually have to build the thing to get a patent. You do, however, have to be able to describe it in such a way that someone COULD build it.
An idea and a dollar might get you a coke but working schematics are the real brass ring here.
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Tell that to the scientists that thave spent their careers researching it.

Nuenjin said:
If they want to patent a hydrogen fuel cell for phones,good for them. Someone needs to do it but they cannot patent something they do not have. You don't actually have to build the thing to get a patent. You do, however, have to be able to describe it in such a way that someone COULD build it.
An idea and a dollar might get you a coke but working schematics are the real brass ring here.
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Though I don't disagree about patenting a mobile phone fuel cell, I do disagree with the kind of patent. I am a firm believer that a patent should never be awarded without an actual working model. Anyone can describe something so well that it seems it can be built. But the problem is, it may or may not be able to be built. There's a lot of trial and error in creating.

The US Patent documentation does not require a working model for typical interactions. Others on XDA have commented that the US patent system is broken and needs reform, I am not commenting on that aspect.
But the directive to describe ones invention so others can build it means specific drawings, schematics and technical language that most people will not understand unless they are engineers of the specific field of the device in question.
Just because some Chinese outfit claims to be able to supply you with top of the line hydrogen cells for your droid 2, with details and a good website, doesn't mean they can.
Let not your hearts be troubled. Even if Apple finds a way to sink billions into a hydrogen battery, others will find a way that does not infringe on their precious patent. And in the end, it will be a good thing for the mobile device market.
The thing that Apple keeps forgetting is that if they win part of a lawsuit, which is akin to a grumpy old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn, they are actually pushing android and hardware manufacturers to find new ways to build phones. That means we win.

That would be cool and effecent

Nuenjin said:
The US Patent documentation does not require a working model for typical interactions. Others on XDA have commented that the US patent system is broken and needs reform, I am not commenting on that aspect.
But the directive to describe ones invention so others can build it means specific drawings, schematics and technical language that most people will not understand unless they are engineers of the specific field of the device in question.
Just because some Chinese outfit claims to be able to supply you with top of the line hydrogen cells for your droid 2, with details and a good website, doesn't mean they can.
Let not your hearts be troubled. Even if Apple finds a way to sink billions into a hydrogen battery, others will find a way that does not infringe on their precious patent. And in the end, it will be a good thing for the mobile device market.
The thing that Apple keeps forgetting is that if they win part of a lawsuit, which is akin to a grumpy old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn, they are actually pushing android and hardware manufacturers to find new ways to build phones. That means we win.
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The sooner Apple loses these patent suits, if they do, the sooner they will bring out new products that will have to compete. Right now Apple is just following the path of least resistance. They are being efficient financially and trying not to have to spend much on new products. In a sense, they are like an anal-retentive person who is so tight with their money they squeak when the walk. They are cleaning their plate to a polish and getting all they can on what they currently have before spending money on new and improved products. This ensures they've done all they can to maximize survivability.

Nuenjin said:
Let not your hearts be troubled. Even if Apple finds a way to sink billions into a hydrogen battery, others will find a way that does not infringe on their precious patent. And in the end, it will be a good thing for the mobile device market.
The thing that Apple keeps forgetting is that if they win part of a lawsuit, which is akin to a grumpy old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn, they are actually pushing android and hardware manufacturers to find new ways to build phones. That means we win.
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For literal infringement that might be true, but the doctrine of equivalents makes it expensive to find alternatives that do not infringe upon a patent.

Nuenjin said:
The US Patent documentation does not require a working model for typical interactions. Others on XDA have commented that the US patent system is broken and needs reform, I am not commenting on that aspect.
But the directive to describe ones invention so others can build it means specific drawings, schematics and technical language that most people will not understand unless they are engineers of the specific field of the device in question.
Just because some Chinese outfit claims to be able to supply you with top of the line hydrogen cells for your droid 2, with details and a good website, doesn't mean they can.
Let not your hearts be troubled. Even if Apple finds a way to sink billions into a hydrogen battery, others will find a way that does not infringe on their precious patent. And in the end, it will be a good thing for the mobile device market.
The thing that Apple keeps forgetting is that if they win part of a lawsuit, which is akin to a grumpy old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn, they are actually pushing android and hardware manufacturers to find new ways to build phones. That means we win.
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Nice to meet some who is on the same lines as me.
Like I said, It's always best to just let things run its course. Let the fruit people do what they want to stay in the market.

How do we engage women in mobile computing?

Recently a long overdue debate has started to arise, on how we humans engage with information and communication technologies on a daily basis and how we need to strengthen our basic understanding of how those complex electronic infrastructures around us do actually work.
This is much more urgent after we've seen the incredible expansion of the mobile side of computing, which will bring us quite soon to the astonishing fact that there will be more working telephone lines than people living in the Earth. Moreover, an unstoppably growing portion of those phones are "smartphones" which are computers with more and more functions every year, with the same or more capabilities as the traditional desktop or laptop computer
Every single one of those computers, just like every computer, runs through a certain software. Operative system, applications, low-level programs... And since software is so present in our lives, it's fair to ask who designed it and who it was designed for.
Whatever criteria we use to answer the first question, the answer almost always has a common point: it was made mostly by men, and mostly with men in mind. Whether it's a big software project inside a corporation or a modest project like an Android ROM, it's men who are in charge and who are the target towards which the software is directed.
Is this suboptimal? It certainly is. Developing software has a creative component, not unlike literature and other arts. Until very recent times, women were deemed unsuited to read and write, and only recently (in historical terms) have we seen women count in the literary field. Developing software may very well be the new skill which, like literature in the past, shapes our world. Isn't it high time to engage women so that this new world-shaping takes them into account too, unlike the former ones? And how should we do it?
Swypesation

There are actually a large number of female developers/programmers and it's increasing all the time. I don't think there needs to be a ton of active recruiting.

Logseman said:
How do we engage women in mobile computing?
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Wrap things up in pink ribbons, call it Unicorn instead of Android.
i think woman wil and need to grow with and in to it.
Like my own wife she's a user not a developer.
In our world it is not what a device can do, What can it do more , where is not designed for.
think it will take a lot of years until programming en coding is natural to women.
When they realize what they are missing they will come around.
And then where screwed...........

threads like this should do it.

MissionImprobable said:
There are actually a large number of female developers/programmers and it's increasing all the time. I don't think there needs to be a ton of active recruiting.
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Research shows that only a minority, as in 10% or less of the whole collective, work directly in programming (management and other matters that are related in different degrees with programming are different things). And open source projects have an even lower proportion of women, like less than 2%. Since open source is the most desirable direction in which we want software to get going, it is of the utmost importance that women take their place there, otherwise we'll be replicating the mistakes of the past.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/pr...der-gap-where-are-the-female-programmers/2386
Curiously enough, in places where computing took off much later, e.g. developing countries like India, the proportion of women in the field is much higher than in the US and Europe.

idk, Most of the programmers and IT professionals I know are women. Maybe it's cause I work in Health care, not sure.

i am 32 and grew up with computers or the things we called it then.
(commodore 64, Atari 1040, Amiga's) i loved it playing with these machines.
My sister didn't even look at it, she like to play a game once in a year thats it.
My two daugthers of nine have way more interest in computers then women my age have.
use of computers/interactive screens by them is natural, give them a device, in five minutes they know what it can do how it works.
there will be more women in the IT-Sector. we just have to wait.

[Q] Things that irritate about phones in general

Although the subject is rather troll like I hope I can do it in a non troll way.
There's a number of things that are really hacking me off about phones these days. I thought I'd have a major slam out to let off steam with the off-chance that someone might say "Ah but if you try X you can avoid that".
...some of the challenges in the mobile phone area these days...
1) Battery capacities aren't good enough as we all know. Getting through a single day is really the basics for me. Why not have hot swappable batteries? For me I expect to be able to go for 3-4 days. I don't know why... I just kind of expect that kind of efficiency.
2) Samsung Galaxy series... seems amazing but the batteries overheat, no?
3) So many people are ignorant of security to the point that most people are walking around with devices and apps that can just completely own you. Yeah there's sandboxing but it doesn't really work, it's been sidestepped. The iPhone just hides what's going on, rarely fixing the issues.
4) Licensing, all that stuff. Companies reinventing the wheel, fighting, all the rest. You can't buy a phone that does X and Y because company X won't license tech X to company Y
5) Trying to get everything perfect in one device... it's a bit of an ask but needed for portability. If things were separate we could have the better of most worlds, but that doesn't seem possible
6) Closed source. Just a bit irritating to see the inefficiency of it all in general. Bit of a hash moan but for those who can imagine better it seems like the dark ages in some areas still.
7) Closed source binary blobs. See Replicant on Samsung phones as the best we can do... the modem is arranged such messily and it's just not true a solution because of that. Kind of irritates me that there is no phone that can really guarantee it's not recording my phone numbers, conversations and credit cards because it's fully open source. Certainly an issue for companies. Companies in general are happy to rely on the word of Blackberry for thier integrity but for those of us who can imagine a solution that is secure by design it's not the best.
8) App whitelisting. Similar to the reactive rather than proactive security we tend to see as the trend in general. Manually checking all apps in the app store, trying to block and check them all.... doesn't seem the best. We've also had censorship. There are alternative stores, that's good.
9) Wakelocks. The Dalvik VM not managing or helping us track them down. Further, it's hard to tell if the app that you want to use is going to shaft your battery... once installed it's hard to tell if the app is ruining your battery too. It's messy.
10) IMEI security is a pain in the butt. It slows down the criminals but it also slows down everyone more so. In the case of Turkey it's another way to screw people with tax. Again, imperfect design.
11) As a man, if you have a phone at waist level that reduces your sperm count. Almost nobody notices or cares.
12) Just the usual society things... people looking at phones rather than each other. Can't really complain about that... the interface of looking at a screen is a bit basic. I've had speech recognition available to me... but I don't use it because there's always people around me and I'd rather be quiet... just one of those funny inventions
13) Screen don't work in bright sunlight still. We've got Motheye coming though which is great but we've had eink for ages and still no eink phone. Further, it can't be hacked onto an existing phone. Some of us aren't interested in games and movies and are focussed on getting stuff done. I feel Mirasol & PixelQi are being blocked or delayed as they try to slow things down until the point we've run out of ideas to make things better so only then does that tech get deployed.
14) Networks interfering with phones. I always go prepay because it's cheaper if you do the maths in many countries and also it allows for freer trade. Networks are always trying to get thier fingers into the mobile phone pies. Thank you Samsung for helping get against that, and also custom ROMs.
15) Apple are great but it's not clear what's going on behind the scenes.
16) eink displays would help battery life. A NookTouch can last for a month. How much would that help a phone on standby? Yet no eink display or anything like that.
17) Great to see the back of proprietary connectors but they still come back sometimes.
18) I hate the way things are made to break. Watch out for this. There's usually one thing on a phone that is designed to break. Sometimes it's a moveable part, like a ribbon cable in a slide phone. Sometimes its the USB connector. You can't buy port savers. When they fail you're screwed. Mitigate against this if you can. Try to figure out what the weak spot on your phone is.
19) Lock in software. I have an old backup phone... but I still have to keep the sync software... bit annoying. One day it probably won't work on Windows9 or whatever. People say throw it away but that's just it, throw away society. No, fix it, get it to work and be in control.
All of these things can be mitigated against. But you have to think about these things when you select your new phone.
If the commercialisation of the industry, cut throat tactics and so on aren't good enough as they are for me one thing you can do is buy a slightly older, but popular phone. In my case I never buy a new phone and instead go for something that I already know is popular with the hacking community. I know you guys can give me an insight into what I'm really looking for in life. As an example my last phone was a Galaxy S i9000. Way out of date in a sense. That's the way I find the best way to go. Go with something popular. That way you have some real support like a real man able to handle things yourself, not AppleCare and a 1 year limit. A philosophy for life. You can't have it all but with a bit of thought you can do a lot to get a bit closer to it all.

Trick me - body language

Truth or lie? What does your partner really think? Which signs can reveal the lie? These and many other questions will be answered in our application about body language “Trick me”
You can meet both lie and truth in your life. It is easy to meet a lie on the streets, in shops or on television watching your morning breaking news.
Scientists suppose every human lies up to 20 times per day and often they don’t even realise it. This app will help you better understand yourself through teaching you non-verbal actions.
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Nowadays for recognition of deception some professionals use lie detector (polygraph). Unfortunately you can’t take a polygraph at the date with your beloved and it also would be odd to use it with your business partners. Even in relationships between parents and children this device looks unappropriate. And even more - it’s accuracy, according to some resources, is under 80%.
Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Are you sure you really want to know when people are lying to you? Even your closest ones. Using knowledge of body language you can find out a lot of new about people in your environment. Did you know that 98% of teenagers lie to their parents and 80% of people tell the white lie every day? Lie theory - is the very wide topic, but you should just accept this fact - everybody lies.
The methods from this apllication “lie to me" are used in a lot of fields of actions: by police, security services, psychiatric consultants, NLPrs and so on.
This app is useful for head managers, scholars, students and everybody who wants to be knowledgeable in psychology of lying and better understand people.
A person both thinks and talks with his or her the whole body. For recognition signs of lie in this application we use a lot of kinds of body language, like:
Gaze direction
Touching of lips
Types of handshakes
Position of legs
Lie by telephone

Absurd things that software makers do

Some of the most absurd changes that software makers (Android, iOS, Windows, macOS, etc.) have done:
1. Clubbing WiFi and Mobile Data into one toggle called Internet. Unnecessary extra tap introduced for no reason.
2. Bluetooth searches for last connected device. You can't connect to another device until the device fails to connect to the last connected device.
3. Removing Screen ON Time (SOT) from battery stats.
4. Removing battery stats since 'Last full charge'.
5. Showing battery stats for the last 24 hours: what a useless metric!
Feel free to add your own observations.

The Bluetooth one is a minor annoyance every once in a while but most of the time it's a convenience. I agree with the rest though.
Also, I hate the Material you theme of android 12 and 13. The accent colors it uses for the dark theme are horrendous. Now I get to choose between a bright white background I don't want but with good accent colors, or a dark theme with nothing but odious pastel accent colors to choose from.

Masterchief87 said:
The Bluetooth one is a minor annoyance every once in a while but most of the time it's a convenience. I agree with the rest though.
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If there was an option to cancel scanning for the last connected device, then there would be no complaints and it will be an useful feature. But to force users to wait until it fails to connect to the previously connected device is pretty annoying.
Masterchief87 said:
Also, I hate the Material you theme of android 12 and 13. The accent colors it uses for the dark theme are horrendous. Now I get to choose between a bright white background I don't want but with good accent colors, or a dark theme with nothing but odious pastel accent colors to choose from.
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I don't know why things are forced to be in a way that the designers choose. It is extremely easy to allow for flexibility where users can pick and choose the colours they want. Removing this flexibility makes no sense at all.
I'm also seeing this Apple's way of forcing things to be in a certain way without flexibility permeating into the tech world like cancer. Not good news.

My friends sadly the corporations are becoming retarded and are offending their customers and investors with all kinds of BS. It's a classic story from history, "because they can". To prevent the collapse of civilization and idiocracy, we must HIT THEM HARD with all kinds of barrage such as public shaming, get the media on their case, boycott them, call the CEO in the middle of the night to complain and so on.
Their retardation is a result of their money extraction goal. Their goal is to seduce you into a short term 'reward' for your brain based on their shiny piece of rock, and make you repeat that purchase as often as possible, like worse than an addict.
My friends I hope you are not some mammals/pigeons like how the corporations think of you?
So get in touch with the lawmakers and put some protections in place, prevent the corporate retardation - punish everything even slightly offensive they are doing. HIT HARD don't hold back.
list of corporate fines - Google Search
how to organize a class action lawsuit - Google Search
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Finds everything
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Even google search is dishonest now.

Network_Pro said:
My friends sadly the corporations are becoming retarded and are offending their customers and investors with all kinds of BS. It's a classic story from history, "because they can".
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That's very true.
Network_Pro said:
To prevent the collapse of civilization and idiocracy, we must HIT THEM HARD with all kinds of barrage such as public shaming, get the media on their case, boycott them, call the CEO in the middle of the night to complain and so on.
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Honestly, things don't really move because most people don't understand the details, and more importantly don't care too. It is this mindset that is being wonderfully exploited by corporations and spying agencies.
Network_Pro said:
Their retardation is a result of their money extraction goal. Their goal is to seduce you into a short term 'reward' for your brain based on their shiny piece of rock, and make you repeat that purchase as often as possible, like worse than an addict.
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I think there is much more to it than just money. It is more about influencing people's mindset and tune them in ways that are beneficial to certain interest groups.

Thera are no interest groups on this planet it's just idiots with common stupid goals that even can't think for themselves as individuals. It's just people who need to keep their money and power because their understanding of what it means to be a human on this planet is relient upon those resources. And that's pretty weird and shortsighted. Weaklings that never had the chance to develop a healthy strong character. The main concept they are missing is that the planet is a closed system. Even with Earth+Mars + moons+ asteroids it's still a closed system. Not to mention like a list of 15+ other abstract concepts they will never comprehend even if GPT-5 explains it to them in 5 different ways.
So it's just a bunch of weirdos who only shame themselves with their actions.
They are like your stupid friend, who is about to do a stupid thing saying "hold my beer". But there's no one to stop them.
So the problem is that money and power corrupt their thinking and their reasoning even before they were born, by means of nurture not just nature.
For example they are willing to commit/turn a blind eye to extreme sins and crimes against what's holy just because ... for no reason actually just to strike fear.
Well the game is up they are playing the wrong game to their own downfall and don't even know it.
Keep it real tell the truth as it, is take no BS from anyone in any situation and HIT HARD with THE TRUTH. Unplug the poor pigeons from the matrix and DESTROY their subversive 'programming'.
However don't do crimes against those 'interest groups' better just spam them (educate them) to prevent them doing crimes.