I would like to keep the stock keyboard because it offers many things such as easy access to handwriting recognition, clipboard etc. However I find the text prediction maddening.
It clearly does not comprehend basic English usage.
For instance, a common word like "in". If I attempt to type "in" it will default to the much longer and rarely used word "instance". I have to manually select "in" if that is what I want. This is just one example. It seems to always default to the longest possible word. This is counter intuitive. It should default to the shortest possible word and build from there.
It also hasn't a clue as to basic spelling or punctuation.
I'd like to use this keyboard but this is intolerable. Any ideas one how to make this work better? Please no suggestions of other keyboards. I am aware of those. I just wish to make this one work.
Thanks
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I have to admit, this is a real pain in the behind! It can be rather temperamental with things. But, I have a feeling that the way it's made is that it actually adapts to your handwriting. Mine is terrible yet it seems to get it right quite a lot.
From what I'm able to gather, the predictive text for the touch input keyboards does not apply. But, if you go into your keyboard settings > Handwriting. You can see that there are a few options. If you haven't been into this bit at all I recommend you take a look at it. You can change things such as recognition time, pen thickness, colour and the recognition type.
This type of thing is just something you need to keep practising at. I do agree with you that the punctuation is rather awful, though. Trying to put an exclamation mark in and constantly getting "i." is a pain! But, as far as handwriting recognition goes, this is the best I've seen in a long time. It's one of those things where developing something like that is really complex and needs to be incredibly fine tuned.
My handwriting is so horrific it would take a quantum computer a week to decipher. I can barely read it and I wrote it.
I miss the old days where you could change your keyboard in app. Having to go to Settings to change it seems like an odd design choice to me. If it were the old way I would just use Thumb Keyboard most of the time then switch over on the fly when I needed stock features.
** Update: Yes there is a way to change the keyboard in app. Just click the little keyboard icon on the status bar next to the clock. Cool
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I change my keyboard in app all the time.
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My handwriting is so horrific it would take a quantum computer a week to decipher. I can barely read it and I wrote it.
I miss the old days where you could change your keyboard in app. Having to go to Settings to change it seems like an odd design choice to me. If it were the old way I would just use Thumb Keyboard most of the time then switch over on the fly when I needed stock features.
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There's an 'input method switcher' hot button next to the clock whenever you're typing... it looks like a little keyboard, but you actually press the icon as opposed to it being in notifications like it does on a phone...
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Lol shockingly I never noticed that. I suppose I was just used to the old way and wasn't looking for it.
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So, some of you actually use the predictive text on the stock keyboard? I tried it for a couple of days and found it intolerably bad -- more often than not, I found myself absolutely fighting with the predictive text to actually type what I wanted, and so gave up on it.
I miss having just the word suggestions as I type that I can select so I don't have to finish typing each word -- I don't really need predictive text, as I can actually type pretty fast on the Note 10.1, but the word suggestions would be nice to have without needing to use another keyboard.
I use 7notes with mazec for HWR and Swiftkey for text prediction. Very satisfied with both.
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I use 7notes with mazec for HWR and Swiftkey for text prediction. Very satisfied with both.
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Swiftkey has never typed anything but gibberish for me on any device I have tried it.
You mentioned that before. I find that so odd. It does a great job for me. I have a lot of friends who use it, too, and they get excellent results. I doubt SwiftKey would have the sales and ratings they have if everyone had that experience. Have you emailed them about it?
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It's not the greatest I've used but it's fine. It does seem to learn and gets better over time. In Mitch's example for "in" all you have to do is hit the space bar when "in" is highlighted in blue and it inserts it with a trailing space. Also, you can add words to the custom dictionary yourself which makes things a lot faster and more accurate.
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So, some of you actually use the predictive text on the stock keyboard? I tried it for a couple of days and found it intolerably bad -- more often than not, I found myself absolutely fighting with the predictive text to actually type what I wanted, and so gave up on it.
I miss having just the word suggestions as I type that I can select so I don't have to finish typing each word -- I don't really need predictive text, as I can actually type pretty fast on the Note 10.1, but the word suggestions would be nice to have without needing to use another keyboard.
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Exactly! I find it giving me nonsensical predictions and I get kinda mad at it (sounds silly I know) but if you have ever used like for say, an original Asus Tf, you will find the responsiveness of this keyboard a godsend.
But one thing, this keyboard is actively learning our typing habits right? I'm using it as I speak and it seems more tolerable and accurate to my intentions. It's only really bad when I type something slighty off.
the whole GALAXY to NOTE about...counting down from 10 to 1.
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It's not the greatest I've used but it's fine. It does seem to learn and gets better over time. In Mitch's example for "in" all you have to do is hit the space bar when "in" is highlighted in blue and it inserts it with a trailing space. Also, you can add words to the custom dictionary yourself which makes things a lot faster and more accurate.
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My point is that it never highlights "in", it highlights "instance" by default. If I press the spacebar after typing the letters "in" it enters "instance". Very very odd default action to prefer the longer word. If I keep correcting "instance" to be "in" it finally seems to learn in that session. However, if I close the app and re-open it later it has forgotten and goes back to the old way.
Sadly, like so much Samsung software, it seems like they turned it in on the day it was due and not when it was done.
I love Samsung hardware. Like HTC, their software pretty much gets an incomplete.
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My point is that it never highlights "in", it highlights "instance" by default.
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That's wierd. On mine, the box on the far left tracks what I'm typing in blue. In your example I'd see "in" in blue while a bunch of suggested words would appear to the right. If I hit space bar or tap "in" while it's highlighted it inserts (only) what I've typed. The space bar turns blue (on mine) to show it's set up to bypass prediction. It's black normally. Are your settings set up like mine?
I don't know get predictions on my stock board only on SwiftKey
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Mine works like Barry's. Confess! What did You change?
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That's wierd. On mine, the box on the far left tracks what I'm typing in blue. In your example I'd see "in" in blue while a bunch of suggested words would appear to the right. If I hit space bar or tap "in" while it's highlighted it inserts (only) what I've typed. The space bar turns blue (on mine) to show it's set up to bypass prediction. It's black normally. Are your settings set up like mine?
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Yeah I know, it is bizarre. That's why I said at the start that I don't exclude the idea I have done something wrong here.
For some reason when I type, it is defaulting to the SECOND word on the list instead of the first. I know, right? Weird.
Ok, I just returned all settings to stock and this is what I get.
If I type "the" I get:
the | then | They | they | Then | there
It is highlighting the second word, not the first. Freakin WEIRD.
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Yeah I know, it is bizarre. That's why I said at the start that I don't exclude the idea I have done something wrong here.
For some reason when I type, it is defaulting to the SECOND word on the list instead of the first. I know, right? Weird.
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Do you have any other keyboards installed? Maybe there's a conflict.
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Do you have any other keyboards installed? Maybe there's a conflict.
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Yeah I have Thumb Keyboard. That is my preferred keyboard anyway. I'll just go with that and switch over to the stock keyboard when I need to use any of the custom features.
We'll just file this one under weird and leave it at that.
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I love the HTC keyboard and the phone, however one noticable problem on the phone is the lag on the KB, which is horrible because it is the most used component of a phone with a software KB.
Anyway, I took off autocorrection, and prediction and also On DC v2.05's rom their is a customized KB I took off the setting that highlights a key when it is selected. The KB is running much smoother.
The iPhone has the best onscreen KB and correction and the main reason is it is not cluttered.
What I am requesting is an app that enables auto correct and prediction, but hides the corrections. I know this will stop us from being able to push the space bar to complete a word, but it would also keep the screen less cluttered, I understand their still might be lag. But i Hate it that all the words you are typing show up, that causes lag.
For example if I were to type in "JTC" instead of "HTC" I want the keyboard to correct it but not show the correction on the screen, like the iPhone.
Is this possible?
in your case at the bottom, what if you MEANT to type JTC though? Would it still correct it to HTC? Because that would be extremely annoying
I would have to manually go back and fix it. but the autocrrection should stay the same meaning it will correct it in most cases it just doesbt show up.
i understand what ur saying how the kb gives you it suggestion of what you meant and then the next guessed word is what you actually typed. but i would be willing to give that up to hide the kb corrections.
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in your case at the bottom, what if you MEANT to type JTC though? Would it still correct it to HTC? Because that would be extremely annoying
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I'm not here to rain on your parade (although this forum isn't really the right place to be asking for Android application requests) but this is the thing that makes me lol every single time I'm texting with someone on an iphone. Their auto-correct is constantly picking wrong words and it's hard to figure out what they are even saying.
With that said the custom keyboard in damage control is the one made by some xda guys. Go put in the request. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc_ime-keyboard-v19/
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I'm not here to rain on your parade (although this forum isn't really the right place to be asking for Android application requests) but this is the thing that makes me lol every single time I'm texting with someone on an iphone. Their auto-correct is constantly picking wrong words and it's hard to figure out what they are even saying.
With that said the custom keyboard in damage control is the one made by some xda guys. Go put in the request. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc_ime-keyboard-v19/
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lol............
I've searched throughout XDA and can't seem to find a keyboard that I can install that brings back my beloved T9! Searching the market brings up little as well.
I just recently got CM6.1 + Kernel #43 (+ various other things) but before this i was still using MoDaCo's 1.5 ROM and although I love [almost] EVERYTHING about CM6 - I can't find a way to get the dial-pad keyboard with T9 for texting. I'm assuming it doesn't exist.
I just want to know what keyboard is good and simple and includes a T9 dialpad-style keyboard for portrait view. Preferably free... but not required.
Some keyboards I've heard of, but no verification of T9:
Smart Keyboard Pro
Swift Key
SWYPE
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I've searched throughout XDA and can't seem to find a keyboard that I can install that brings back my beloved T9! Searching the market brings up little as well.
I just recently got CM6.1 + Kernel #43 (+ various other things) but before this i was still using MoDaCo's 1.5 ROM and although I love [almost] EVERYTHING about CM6 - I can't find a way to get the dial-pad keyboard with T9 for texting. I'm assuming it doesn't exist.
I just want to know what keyboard is good and simple and includes a T9 dialpad-style keyboard for portrait view. Preferably free... but not required.
Some keyboards I've heard of, but no verification of T9:
Smart Keyboard Pro
Swift Key
SWYPE
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See my HTC IME thread Has compact QWERTY and T9 modes
THANKYOU!
This is fantastic!
EXACTLY what I was looking for. I can type extremely fast now (even in the car... shhhh) and at first, I was glad to have to T9 back but the keyboard itself looked a bit goofy. Then I saw the 'AOSP generic look'; it is perfect.
Thanks so much!
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Ok - I had to follow up on this again after using the keyboard for a few days. I don't think I did it much justice.
This keyboard is incredible. Not only is it simple looking (although you can apply other themes if you wish), the customizability (is that a word?) is insane. I spent forever just going through and playing with all the settings. Sometime it takes a while since you have to kill the keyboard and wait a second for it to come back in a typing app to test it, then go back to the settings menu, tweak, rinse & repeat.
I was thrilled to see that there are custom smiles because when I do use the smilies, which isn't often, I don't like them to have the 'dash' noses (ex. ) I prefer the simple but maybe I'm just really picky. Having the customizable smilies is awesome. You could even just replace them with anything you use often. One downside however is if you add too many, they'll just run off the screen and you'll not have access to them.
The custom swipes is a nice feature as well. When you swipe along the keyboard in one of four directions, you can assign custom functions. I have my 'swipe-up' set to 'Shift' so I can get capital letters quickly. I know it doesn't seem quicker than pressing the shift key but it is for me. It just feels more natural too when I'm texting or emailing. You can even set a swipe to change languages , I think this would make multi linqual people very satisfied. Type BOOM Tipo BOOM 类型 BOOM Тип.
There are many other settings including the organization of buttons, word prediction and spelling settings, and much more. You can even save and restore settings!
Best of all... it's FREE!
Edit: Thanks again!
YoshioDuo said:
This is fantastic!
EXACTLY what I was looking for. I can type extremely fast now (even in the car... shhhh) and at first, I was glad to have to T9 back but the keyboard itself looked a bit goofy. Then I saw the 'AOSP generic look'; it is perfect.
Thanks so much!
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Ok - I had to follow up on this again after using the keyboard for a few days. I don't think I did it much justice.
This keyboard is incredible. Not only is it simple looking (although you can apply other themes if you wish), the customizability (is that a word?) is insane. I spent forever just going through and playing with all the settings. Sometime it takes a while since you have to kill the keyboard and wait a second for it to come back in a typing app to test it, then go back to the settings menu, tweak, rinse & repeat.
I was thrilled to see that there are custom smiles because when I do use the smilies, which isn't often, I don't like them to have the 'dash' noses (ex. ) I prefer the simple but maybe I'm just really picky. Having the customizable smilies is awesome. You could even just replace them with anything you use often. One downside however is if you add too many, they'll just run off the screen and you'll not have access to them.
The custom swipes is a nice feature as well. When you swipe along the keyboard in one of four directions, you can assign custom functions. I have my 'swipe-up' set to 'Shift' so I can get capital letters quickly. I know it doesn't seem quicker than pressing the shift key but it is for me. It just feels more natural too when I'm texting or emailing. You can even set a swipe to change languages , I think this would make multi linqual people very satisfied. Type BOOM Tipo BOOM 类型 BOOM Тип.
There are many other settings including the organization of buttons, word prediction and spelling settings, and much more. You can even save and restore settings!
Best of all... it's FREE!
Edit: Thanks again!
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No problem man, happy to help out
One more quickie
One last question... I noticed you posted the keyboard in CMDA Hero, but would this also work on my Galaxy S Tab?
YoshioDuo said:
One last question... I noticed you posted the keyboard in CMDA Hero, but would this also work on my Galaxy S Tab?
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No this will not
although you are obviously happy already, i found that the keyboard in the above thread doesnt work for my 6.1 setup. for others who run across this, see this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8050661&postcount=2587
its the same thing, and it doesnt force close.
steve19137 said:
although you are obviously happy already, i found that the keyboard in the above thread doesnt work for my 6.1 setup. for others who run across this, see this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8050661&postcount=2587
its the same thing, and it doesnt force close.
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I've never had a FC... are you running the correct version for low res?
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I've never had a FC... are you running the correct version for low res?
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im pretty sure i was. but im not worried about it anymore, i have that link, and it works so yeah.
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im pretty sure i was. but im not worried about it anymore, i have that link, and it works so yeah.
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Ok, well so long as it works then
So the wife can't live without her stock HTC keyboard. I'm going to flash AOSP's CM7 build for her, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a plain old stock HTC ime that will work with GB and specifically this ROM? Thanks.
PilotKey allows you to enter text with easy and fast finger tip gestures anywhere on the keyboard. It can also speak out every key you enter. This means you don't have to look at the keyboard while entering text. It can free up your eyes to focus on the text input or suggestions and enable you to write longer texts. PilotKey makes the experience of entering text in phones more comfortable and it can help you in various multitasking situations like noting down text from some source or person, messaging while watching TV, searching for places while walking etc. PilotKey can also help you with privacy while entering text in public places.
It takes about a week time to get used to PilotKey but after getting used to it traditional keyboards will become stressful to use. This is because of the fact that looking at text being written is much more comfortable than looking at the keys which requires random shift of eye focus. The demo of this app can be seen at youtube video "M1zk1v9XJxQ"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mayektech.inputmethod.app
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Seems promising. Will give it a try. Thanks!
It looks tricky to getting started (used for a few minutes only), but the promised goal is awesome. :good:
Very interesting - I really like the idea
However I need Danish letters and preferred spell-check before it really works for me. Let me know if there's anything I can do to make that happen
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looks cool but the ui is kind of scary looking, i will try it soon
trying it now; seems a little to tricky at the beginning. Also, on SGH-i9100 it's a bit lagging or slowed
I really like the idea of this keyboard but the learning curve is going to be a killer. The video wasn't the best in explaining how it works. The guy on the video could text like a pro through so I guess it really does work
Actually I don't think the learnin -curve is that bad, yes is a little different in the beginning but not hard to see the potential at all
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Pretty innovative...:good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFh0yrVNL6Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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just read about this, the idea is great!
Just a few questions:
Is there a way to integrate some kind of dictonary (not only an english) one, yet? With that typing would be even more accurate.
Is there a way to adjust something like dpi or size? on my phone (sony xperia active) the arrows on the buttons are hiding the letters so it is a bit difficult at the beginning to find the right letters and the symbols at the right are pretty difficult to hit
will have to check this out, way to think outside the box
Great keyboard... And when you learn where the keys are is too easy
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Nice innovative idea....have potential to be big thing.
Better color scheme and dictionary options will be wonderful. Thanks.
m.klinge said:
Very interesting - I really like the idea
However I need Danish letters and preferred spell-check before it really works for me. Let me know if there's anything I can do to make that happen
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Thank you for your valuable feedback. This is just the first version of the app. We are going to support more dictionaries in the future including Danish.
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It looks tricky to getting started (used for a few minutes only), but the promised goal is awesome. :good:
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Thank you for trying out PilotKey. It will take about a week to feel comfortable with it. We are also coming up with some novel feature which will make adoption seamless.
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trying it now; seems a little to tricky at the beginning. Also, on SGH-i9100 it's a bit lagging or slowed
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Thank you for your feedback. We will try to test with more devices and fix the problem.
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just read about this, the idea is great!
Just a few questions:
Is there a way to integrate some kind of dictonary (not only an english) one, yet? With that typing would be even more accurate.
Is there a way to adjust something like dpi or size? on my phone (sony xperia active) the arrows on the buttons are hiding the letters so it is a bit difficult at the beginning to find the right letters and the symbols at the right are pretty difficult to hit
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Thank you for trying out PilotKey. Yes we will be supporting more dictionaries soon. Your feedback is really helpful for us to test on more varieties of devices with different resolutions and fix them as soon as possible.
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Nice innovative idea....have potential to be big thing.
Better color scheme and dictionary options will be wonderful. Thanks.
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Thanks for your encouraging feedback. We will make more dictionaries available in the future and also improve the color schemes.
If you install the Google Keyboard, type a word and get the three suggested words up, then long-press on the middle word to get the extended list of suggested words up, do you get a few lines of words with a horrible choice of colours? Because I do. It would be a lot more pleasant were it a single colour background and a single text colour on top of that.
I've used Google Keyboard on Moto G and S3, Never had to long press any word to get more suggestions as my vocabulary is fairly simple.
However, I've just checked what you've mentioned, and I should say that it indeed is horrible. I'm not sure that I remember it correctly, but Moto G had nothing of this sort (or did it?).
I think we should put up with this issue until the next release, which will have a different keyboard altogether.
Just received a release with new Material Design UI from Google.
still the same issue..
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Just received a release with new Material Design UI from Google.
still the same issue..
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Yeah, the words get bolder towards the right and still with lines in between. On Lollipop (nexus 10) it's fine, so it's just the Z3 then, not the OS.
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If you install the Google Keyboard, type a word and get the three suggested words up, then long-press on the middle word to get the extended list of suggested words up, do you get a few lines of words with a horrible choice of colours? Because I do. It would be a lot more pleasant were it a single colour background and a single text colour on top of that.
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Did you ever find a fix for this? I just installed the Google Keyboard but the color choices are horrible!!
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Did you ever find a fix for this? I just installed the Google Keyboard but the color choices are horrible!!
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No, I see this as a Sony bug. The same Google keyboard is fine on the S3 regardless of ROM, and Nexus 10 running stock lollipop. I never faff around with themes or anything so perhaps that'll change it, but themes never seem to change very much apart from the wallpaper and icons; maybe there's a theme that changes the suggested word colours. I'm sure you can change it on a rooted phone, but sadly that seems to be some way off on the Z3.
Hi there, not sure what is the confluence of factors....
But I find it horribly nasty in Lollipop with the google keyboard to place my cursor by tapping text I am editing. It just doesn't go where my thumb and eye thinks it should. It is getting more and more annoying.
I used Smart Keyboard Pro in KitKat, and it had a "calibration" subroutine that I thought was responsible for hitting the actual keys, but do you think it also helped text entry selection?
Do IME rules govern the text cursor placement? I am now used to the google keyboard layout but find the precision horrid.
Thanks for any thoughts on subject.
Hah. Just tested Smart Keyboard Pro again... after calibrating. It feels like I can enter text again right away. It was very buggy during the Android version bump, but updates have made it work great again!
Now just another layout reconditioning....d'oh
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Nope. All an IME can do is read what is in the text field (for correction) and what type of text field it is (plaintext, password, username, number-only, etc) through the system (not the text field itself), and tell the system to input keystrokes (it doesn't input them itself).
It has no direct contact with the text field itself.
A keyboard app is really just a UI and sometimes also a text corrector.
Hmmm. I wonder about how Smart Keyboard Pro works its "calibration"... and then I wonder why without fail, switching keyboard is letting me navigate the text field better.
Something in the story you give is missing perhaps. Text correction for instance indicates going "into" the text field...
I notice the little handle to drag the cursor also feels way less buggy. I was having trouble even grabbing the handle in Google Keyboard. It also looks like a different handle.
Maybe things have changed from KitKat to Lollipop....perhaps somehow related to not being able to use any alternative IME if the default IME was removed. I saw others complaining about that. Some input method functions that were "deeper than the IME apk" are now placed differently...
I am not a dev though and wouldn't know where to begin to look in version manifest to see this described.
It makes sense a keyboard app dev would try to make entry work better if they COULD somehow fool the screen to better "read my mind" which is totally the aim of Smart Keyboard Pro's calibration function.
Not saying you're wrong exactly, but curious because I'm always learning and enjoy understanding and my test has seemed to work in my favour!
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Hmmm. I wonder about how Smart Keyboard Pro works its "calibration"... and then I wonder why without fail, switching keyboard is letting me navigate the text field better.
Something in the story you give is missing perhaps. Text correction for instance indicates going "into" the text field...
I notice the little handle to drag the cursor also feels way less buggy. I was having trouble even grabbing the handle in Google Keyboard. It also looks like a different handle.
Maybe things have changed from KitKat to Lollipop....perhaps somehow related to not being able to use any alternative IME if the default IME was removed. I saw others complaining about that. Some input method functions that were "deeper than the IME apk" are now placed differently...
I am not a dev though and wouldn't know where to begin to look in version manifest to see this described.
It makes sense a keyboard app dev would try to make entry work better if they COULD somehow fool the screen to better "read my mind" which is totally the aim of Smart Keyboard Pro's calibration function.
Not saying you're wrong exactly, but curious because I'm always learning and enjoy understanding and my test has seemed to work in my favour!
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The only thing a keyboard app can "calibrate for accuracy" is on the keyboard view itself, not the text field. Both the text cursor and text field are 100% handled by the system and in some cases the app you're typing in, never the IME application.
Okay, thanks.. hmm. What kind of system features may be responsible for precision?
There are "responsiveness" differences between kernels and ROM combos... but assuming I like my ROM and kernel, what kind of potential tweaks to settings might make the touch screen more snappy and stable for text editing?
I notice thermal throttling when using phone when charging definitely worsens ability to type. Way more lag.. for example, cursor will jump around. Key presses will hang.
Thank you @Lethargy for your time spent thinking.
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Okay, thanks.. hmm. What kind of system features may be responsible for precision?
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I don't know what you mean here. It uses InputMethodManager/InputMethodService, and text fields are managed by TextView.
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There are "responsiveness" differences between kernels and ROM combos... but assuming I like my ROM and kernel, what kind of potential tweaks to settings might make the touch screen more snappy and stable for text editing?
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ROMs have no influence unless one has a terribly written feature which lags the entire thing. Kernels don't affect anything themselves either - the kernel settings do, which are also user tunable anyways (default settings on a kernel are usually just what the builder prefers themselves). Neither have anything to do with text cursor placement accuracy, and no ROM should be messing with how the IME works anyways as it'll cause problems for more people than solve.
And there isn't anything you can do to make it more accurate other than physically (via using a stylus or having smaller fingers), since each touch is registered on an individual pixel, not the entire surface area being touched.
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I notice thermal throttling when using phone when charging definitely worsens ability to type. Way more lag.. for example, cursor will jump around. Key presses will hang.
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Not necessarily thermal throttle. An IME will run fine on a Nexus 5 even if you underclock to 1GHz. More likely its just your CPU usage being high and the IME isn't as high a priority as what is keeping up lets say 75% of your CPU.
So perhaps I might have less lag if I overclocked a bit? I guess that is obvious...
Do you know of not too invasive methods of altering the IME priority or tweaking the touch responsiveness in general?
Also, I am being more careful about my large thumb's "one pixel" touch point, and I am noticing an improvement already.... although I had already switched back to the 3rd party keyboard which seemed to help right away with input accuracy.
I also found a google android issue with 51 stars regarding generally buggy input issues in the Nexus 5 on Lollipop... so I am not too crazy about noting my issue perhaps!
Thanks for your help in understanding IME, @Lethargy.
nednednerb said:
So perhaps I might have less lag if I overclocked a bit? I guess that is obvious...
Do you know of not too invasive methods of altering the IME priority or tweaking the touch responsiveness in general?
Also, I am being more careful about my large thumb's "one pixel" touch point, and I am noticing an improvement already.... although I had already switched back to the 3rd party keyboard which seemed to help right away with input accuracy.
I also found a google android issue with 51 stars regarding generally buggy input issues in the Nexus 5 on Lollipop... so I am not too crazy about noting my issue perhaps!
Thanks for your help in understanding IME, @Lethargy.
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Overclocking might not help that much, and I don't know of an easy way to force priority.
I don't have such issues with any sort of IME, so it's likely a per-user issue rather than affecting everybody. I also use the AOSP and Google keyboard.