The Amazon KFHD case - 7" Kindle Fire HD Accessories

"Great case, optimum design".
I was pretty skeptical about spending this much money on a case but I must admit having got the case, I am thoroughly delighted with it I love the way the Kindle Fire fits into the shell without any straps and how the case still preserves the slender form factor of KFHD
I would agree with others that the price really could be about $10 lower but Amazon probably has to make some money...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GGH4VI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

I agree, I like the case overall. The price is a bit high, but overall I think its not terribly overpriced. The only gripe I have after reading with it several times now is that the edge of the case can be a bit sharp. It will dig into your hand a bit after a while of holding it.

Definitely a quality case. I love the form factor. It maintains the slimness of the KFHD.
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Lol !! Great case.. thanks for link..

magnetic screen shutdown too!
One thing not mentioned here (yet) is the magnetic screen cover. When you close the cover the screen automatically shuts off (like the iPad, except this cover is not flimsy and won't fall off!). This was a great surprise I found when i tried out this case --and that, plus the slim durable style convinced me that this is the best case for the Kindle Fire HD7" (and 8/9" for that matter!).

Agree with all the previous comments, after trying 3 previous cases, the Amazon on wins hands down.

wrexhamafc said:
Agree with all the previous comments, after trying 3 previous cases, the Amazon on wins hands down.
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Dido, well worth the extra money

markbc01 said:
One thing not mentioned here (yet) is the magnetic screen cover. When you close the cover the screen automatically shuts off (like the iPad, except this cover is not flimsy and won't fall off!). This was a great surprise I found when i tried out this case --and that, plus the slim durable style convinced me that this is the best case for the Kindle Fire HD7" (and 8/9" for that matter!).
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This is what makes this worth the price take. Flip and go, no need to lock the screen.

RushNY said:
This is what makes this worth the price take. Flip and go, no need to lock the screen.
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I bought my wife the Amazon case that you guys have and you all are right it's nice.
Here's the case I have, and I love it. I honestly like it better than the Amazon case. The hand strap imo is a must have. The design on the exterior looks very classy and not at all cheap or cheesy. And yes, it has the on/off feature upon opening and closing the case.
But wait, how much does this mythical, almost too good to be true case cost, you say? It must be at least $99. Maybe if I catch it on sale I can get it for $78.92. Surely you jest. Maybe a second-hand pick, laden with crusty boogers for a cool $50?
Heck no.
Just check out the link below. Believe me, you CAN afford one (or 3).
Here's the case I have, and seriously though, I really do like it more than my wife's. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400375182521
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If it was easy you'd of hired the guy at Home Depot to to it.
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0 By the Way, I also bought one of the solid colored cases of the same kind. The outside of that one did feel cheap, it is not the same material as the one that I linked to above. It still offers great protection and for what it costs is worth it, but the outside material doesn't feel as quality.
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If it was easy you'd of hired the guy at Home Depot to to it.

It's stylish and great for holding it, and doesn't seem to get dirty easily (oils from food, moisture wipe right off). However, it's not great for protection at all. I dropped my first KFHD from a one-foot distance off the ground, only to pick it up and find a hairline crack across the bottom right corner (potentially a weak spot)?
According to customer service, if it's only one crack and not a spider web, it's covered under the default warranty. They mailed me out a new one within 2 days. Kick ass customer service, I do say.

Thank your self you don't live in the UK!
It's £49 here!
From box 13......

mechnesium said:
It's stylish and great for holding it, and doesn't seem to get dirty easily (oils from food, moisture wipe right off). However, it's not great for protection at all. I dropped my first KFHD from a one-foot distance off the ground, only to pick it up and find a hairline crack across the bottom right corner (potentially a weak spot)?
According to customer service, if it's only one crack and not a spider web, it's covered under the default warranty. They mailed me out a new one within 2 days. Kick ass customer service, I do say.
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You're talking about the Amazon cover right? That's the one I have now (but i am going to check out the other cover mentioned just above too) Since Christmas, I have dropped my new Kindle Fire HD 7 a couple of times. Only casual slips and nothing major. One from the table top height and one or two from the couch arm (lower height) onto a hard wood floor. So far I have had no damage --the top (fold over) cover now has a slight compression along about 1 inch of the edges, but I just rechecked the KF HD and I can't see any damage. I guess I am lucky!
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gilbequick said:
I bought my wife the Amazon case that you guys have and you all are right it's nice. Here's the case I have, and I love it. I honestly like it better than the Amazon case. The hand strap imo is a must have. The design on the exterior looks very classy and not at all cheap or cheesy. And yes, it has the on/off feature upon opening and closing the case.
But wait, how much does this mythical, almost too good to be true case cost, you say? It must be at least $99. Maybe if I catch it on sale I can get it for $78.92. Surely you jest. Maybe a second-hand pick, laden with crusty boogers for a cool $50?
Heck no.
Just check out the link below. Believe me, you CAN afford one (or 3).
Here's the case I have, and seriously though, I really do like it more than my wife's. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400375182521
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Thanks, went to that link and It does look good & nice video! I like all of those different colors and a great price too! However, the video seems to demonstrate and show a sleep-wake functionality for the case, but the written ad's second bullet says "does not include the wake sleep feature." Not sure which one is accurate! Although, I really am getting spoiled by using the "flip on flip off" approach to the KF HD so the magnets are important to me

i have bought Amazon original case.. Its practical and seems excellent.

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matthew2582 said:
"Great case, optimum design".
I was pretty skeptical about spending this much money on a case but I must admit having got the case, I am thoroughly delighted with it I love the way the Kindle Fire fits into the shell without any straps and how the case still preserves the slender form factor of KFHD
I would agree with others that the price really could be about $10 lower but Amazon probably has to make some money...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GGH4VI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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Who made it? Zerolemon?

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armband?

Anyone found a suitable armband to go running/work out in while keeping my lovely g2x safe and sound from falling out or getting my sweat all over?
or if you have a universal sized armband and are having success with your g2x in it please do share your experiences!
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Review of the VanGoddy Armband: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14056733&postcount=16
Check Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_box_/181-1178860-7666418?k=g2x+arm+band
Check out the third choice . LOL
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
Check Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_box_/181-1178860-7666418?k=g2x+arm+band
Check out the third choice . LOL
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[email protected] choice!
yea i looked at those armbands that are on amazon and I am not too wild about them... right now my biggest candidate is the adidas miCoach armband...
http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=chXSTZDEJoWftwfhsOyXCg&ved=0CG0Q8wIwAA#
though it is nylon and i dont know how i feel about nylon... i would prefer neoprene...
looking for an armband as well. All I saw were those few amazon entries and one bad review that said the phone sticks up above the cover. I might go to target and try a bunch for the iphone.
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looking for an armband as well. All I saw were those few amazon entries and one bad review that said the phone sticks up above the cover. I might go to target and try a bunch for the iphone.
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Well I am going to take one for the team, I ordered the one that amazon has listed with the ONE bad review... for 17 bux shipped so its whatever...
i went to best buy today and opened a bunch of boxes of stuff and nothing seemed to really fit... i tried the miCoach for the IP4 and it was a huge fail
I pondered using my tunebelt from my nexus one and just getting a different silicone case but with the phone being as big as it is and 12 grams heavier that it may be a little too flimsy and flopping around for my liking...
I want something with the form factor that the amazon armbands or miCoach has where the phone fits into a sleeve and wont flop around... assuming the phone does not stick out literally an inch and the phone will stay in when I am jogging or doing plyometrics, i will be happy with my purchase...
full review to come when i get it...
Thanks looking forward to the review.
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kev0153 said:
looking for an armband as well. All I saw were those few amazon entries and one bad review that said the phone sticks up above the cover. I might go to target and try a bunch for the iphone.
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yup... looking for a perfect fit one too.
Try sports authority
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Try sports authority
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I dont have sports authority and ****'s said they only carry ipod accessories, specifically nano armbands... its more of a bestbuy type of store's job to carry smartphone sports armbands since they actually sell the devices... ipods are a little more universal so ****'s carrys them...
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looking for an armband as well. All I saw were those few amazon entries and one bad review that said the phone sticks up above the cover. I might go to target and try a bunch for the iphone.
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I have the exact same problem the only armband that I found on Amazon supposedly sucks doesn't even fits the entire phone
I'm subscribing to this thread hopefully I'll find something nice
JHaste said:
Well I am going to take one for the team, I ordered the one that amazon has listed with the ONE bad review... for 17 bux shipped so its whatever...
i went to best buy today and opened a bunch of boxes of stuff and nothing seemed to really fit... i tried the miCoach for the IP4 and it was a huge fail
I pondered using my tunebelt from my nexus one and just getting a different silicone case but with the phone being as big as it is and 12 grams heavier that it may be a little too flimsy and flopping around for my liking...
I want something with the form factor that the amazon armbands or miCoach has where the phone fits into a sleeve and wont flop around... assuming the phone does not stick out literally an inch and the phone will stay in when I am jogging or doing plyometrics, i will be happy with my purchase...
full review to come when i get it...
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What case do you have?
I want to have a good case that hopefully also fits in a good armband
Let me know if you find a good combination please I'd appreciate it
Here is a list of armbands I found on Amazon, I think the only solution would be to buy a an armband not designed specifically for the G2X and see which one adapts the best
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_i_1?rh=k%3Acell+phone+armband%2Ci%3Amobile&keywords=cell+phone+armband&ie=UTF8&qid=1306020133
http://www.amazon.com/iArmbands-Arm..._1_7?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1306060005&sr=1-7
Found this one: http://www.amazon.com/Elegant-Armba..._14?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1306075830&sr=1-14
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http://www.amazon.com/iArmbands-Arm..._1_7?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1306060005&sr=1-7
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the band is too thin, that phone would flap all over the place with a phone our size... bands with a sleeve are better in terms of comfort and stability
omarsalmin said:
Found this one: http://www.amazon.com/Elegant-Armba..._14?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1306075830&sr=1-14
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yea that is the one i ordered that got the couple of bad reviews...
I just got it in the mail yesterday but I was not home to use it, I will take it out for jog tonight and do a full review with some pictures
JHaste said:
the band is too thin, that phone would flap all over the place with a phone our size... bands with a sleeve are better in terms of comfort and stability
yea that is the one i ordered that got the couple of bad reviews...
I just got it in the mail yesterday but I was not home to use it, I will take it out for jog tonight and do a full review with some pictures
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Thanks for your upcoming review I appreciate that
Ok so here is my review of the VanGoddy Armband for the G2x/O2X/EVO4g/Atrix/any other giant ass phone!
(Picture album is linked on the bottom of the post)
First off I would like to state what sort of view I am coming from as to eliminate any bias by stating my biases from the get go. I am a slim, athletic body type, 14 inch biceps, 6 foot, 160 pounds. I typically will be doing a lot of running with this device and I referee soccer and will often strap it on while I run a game so I can track my positioning, distance, ect. so I wanted a band that would not be too gaudy and I could hide a bit under my sleeves (underarmor and uniform sleeves). Since again running was my main use with some use in the gym I wanted stability while holding the device so it was not sliding around, flopping around or possibly flying out of the pocket. The other main feature I was looking for was material quality and anybody that works out knows neoprene is clutch especially for people who sweat a large amount, like myself, when I work out or go running. Tad bit of personal information for ya there!
The unboxing and first impressions: VanGoddy shipped it in a bubble wrap envelope, nothing fancy and the item did not need anything fancy. Right away when I looked the thing over I could tell that the pocket to hold the phone looked a tad large for my phone and that the plastic screen was cheap and small. Just putting the armband on, I put it on as tight as I could get the velcro to go and it was a perfect fit, very snug and even tighter when I flexed how my arms would be while running.
Upon slotting the phone in I noticed two things, the clear screen cover does in fact suck, and the phone will fall out of the slot naturally. The device was definitely made with a "universally wide" pouch and I would argue favors the wider phones such as the Atrix, Evo4g and DX; our slim phones got the shaft in this design. I put the armband back on, tightened up, even loosened it a hair from where I had it last time and boom! it actually felt pretty good. Swinging my arm around the phone was pretty snug, I could not get it to fall out regardless of what I was doing which earned it some "do points" in the do or die ratings! I would clear this for use in the gym for bench pressing and doing other strange arm angle lift routines.
Onto the screen cover. This was my biggest grip with this thing. You do not get a lot of cover real estate to work with and the way the cover was stitched into the armband was absolutely thoughtless because it does not even come close to sitting flush with the screen. The part that is stitched around the screen on the outside is a flexible plastic and on the inside they overlapped material so that the screen is not sitting against the plastic cover screen. (See picture overlap flap) This caused another problem that annoyed me a little, if the phone shifted in the slot too much to one way or the other the edge of the phone would get caught on one of these flaps on the inside around the screen edge and offset the phone. It did this twice during my little 3 mile jog while I was trying to skip a song. Getting to the notifications bar while in the slot is damn near impossible, I had no trouble hitting the softkeys but the notification bar is inaccessible. This is partly due to the long "ass" our phones have so the top part of our screens will not be within the clear cover's viewing range.
I did and do not play with the phone much while running because I have very satisfying playlists. Handling touches through the screen was about on par with other covers of similar thickness. I did not really have a problem executing touch commands but changing the volume was a little weird since I had to essentially just squeeze and guess where the volume buttons were on the side. On the bright side, because the screen is not very tight to the screen and the neoprene resists water, I never noticed the screen to fog up on me.
All in all for $17 something cents shipped this is not a terrible armband by any means. It is no 30-40 dollar custom phone fitting armband but it is not so cheap that I just pitched it laughing at what I bought, I would say I got what I paid for and maybe a bit more. Score wise I would give this guy a 7/10. It is good but it definitely has some shortcomings. If you are skinny and dont have at least a 13inch bicep I would not recommend you purchase this device, for fear of it sliding off of your arm. Get used to running with this on your left arm, I found the cord positioning much better and it was getting tangled less around my arm.
Some things I would have liked to see and would be a more quality screen cover. A bit more velcro (one more inch) to possibly go tighter for maybe some more extreme sports or intense working out and for smaller biceps. A slot for a Key is always a nice addition but I usually find a place in whatever pair of shoes I have; sliding it behind the phone you would risk it flying out, I would bet money that it flies out on smaller biceps.
If you are looking for something to get the job done then this is the device for you because it does exactly that. It does not do it extremely well, wow, or impress me in any way but it for 17 bucks it served my needs. Again 7/10 from me...
Pictures: https://picasaweb.google.com/108804...?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyb25S03-aJDw&feat=directlink
Enjoy and Thanks for reading!
thanks for the great review. It sounds like this is the best one out there right now.
Just bought one, hopefully it will be sufficient. Just need it to keep the thing dry
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Just bought one, hopefully it will be sufficient. Just need it to keep the thing dry
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I dont think you will have any problem keeping it dry, just make sure nothing from your shoulder or upper arm drips down since the top is open
http://www.amazon.com/iGadgitz-Resi..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1306182082&sr=1-4
found this one but it's out of stock. try emailing the seller?

(8.9) Vipertek Case!!

I haven't gotten mine yet, but I used this case for my 10.1 and I loved it. Now it's even cheaper for the 8.9. Happy to write a mini review when I get the case but for this price I had to share. 10 dollars shipped. Hopefully this price stays that way for all of you.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005X5YLRU/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow!! That's cheap!!! I've placed an order!!!!
I hope its good so I can return my expensive belkin one. Thanks for the link.
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I hope its good so I can return my expensive belkin one. Thanks for the link.
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It is very good! It looks very professional and the has a nice slim profile.
I got one for my new 8.9 as well, and though it shows its cheapness in the quality of the faux leather, the roughess of the cut and stiches, the thickness of the clip, etc, it is very functional and so for that price (10 dollars total) it is hard to complain and most likely I ll keep it too.
not recommended!
I got the deal thanks to the operator of this thread. great price and fast delivery - no complaints there.
However, the case has a serious design flaw - including bad design decision by Samsung as well. The onla way the case works for angled view, the bottom speakers of the tab sit in the shallow groves which are a soft material and i) they do not keep the angle stable and ii) forget about watching a movie or listening to music!
I turned the tab 180 degrees so the speakers face upwards but now the power button sits in the groves and tend to blank my screen from time to time.
Só if you do any form of multimedia then this case is not recommended.
sorry for the bad news but since the case got only 5star reviews in Amazon I felt a need to share a different opinion.
cheers chris
If compare this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00_details
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PU-Leat...Accessories&hash=item3f10227d9e#ht_3256wt_940
Which one thinner?
The amazon holding I also worry as it may come out easily.
I bought this case since it seems to be one of the better options currently, especially at the price. I am actually very happy with it. Someday I may replace it with a keyboard folio case, but for now it does it job and looks decent. Most of the other cases cover part of the front of the tablet and IMHO that looks tacky.
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mynewuser said:
If compare this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00_details
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PU-Leat...Accessories&hash=item3f10227d9e#ht_3256wt_940
Which one thinner?
The amazon holding I also worry as it may come out easily.
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The Vipertek is definitely thinner. Don't worry about how well the Vipertek case holds the tablet. The connection is very firm, there is no way it will fall out accidentally.
for me I prefer to use my tab in portrait mode. is the 360 rotate case better or thi�s amazon case?
got this today!
noreve case
This is a very nice case as well. No complaints except a little pricey, but it is on sale for the holidays! http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/noreve-tradition-leather-case-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-8-9-p32196.htm
$73, before shipping? Sorry, I'll stick to my Vipertek; pretty much the same case, it's made well, and less than $20 with Amazon prime. It's even got an additional slot inside the top cover for an extra viewing angle.
I got mine on Saturday and I love it!
Thanks OP for posting
Thanks to the OP I am quite pleased with the Vipertek case. Beats the over priced bulky Belkin case I got with the tab hands down.
Had mine for a while now. It leaves marks on the screen when closed for a while and the screen is dark, but you cant notice them when powered on.
Just got my Galaxy Tab 8.9 Vipertek case from the online jungle store. <grin>
I feel much better about my wife throwing the tablet in her purse and not scratching it all up. The only complaint I have, and I knew this when I bought it due to reviews at said online jungle store, is that the speakers are not very loud when using the adjustable viewing angles (they get buried in the soft padded base). But that is more of a design issue with the tablet than the case imo. The case is a tremendous value.
-me
If you balance it right you can make it louder
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Right. This case is now $25 on Amazon. TT_TT
But seeing all the good reviews here as well as there convinced me to go for it.
(I was about to get the Acase though, but I liked the Vipertek look and grooves better) It looks like this is the case to get
now if only they had shipping to europe...cases like this cost 35€ and upwards over here. even with shipping this case would probably be cheaper than most of them over here
any ideas on how to get this to germany?
amazon all out anybody have a link of where to buy the vipertek case

Otterbox Defender

I'm thinking of replacing my current Samsung Book Cover case with the Otterbox Defender series case on my Note 8. My experience with the Defender series is great, it's a great case on smaller devices but I want to know what it's like on this device. This particular case has a built-in hinge, sleeve, and screen protector. If anybody is using/has used this case, please let me know how it is.
Here's a link: http://www.otterbox.com/Galaxy-Note-8-Defender-Series-Case/sam2-galaxy-note-8,default,pd.html?dwvar_sam2-galaxy-note-8_color=20&start=2&cgid=samsung-galaxy-note-8-cases
Best investments I made for my Note 2.0 and my Note 8.0. I got the glacier color to match my phone case. The protector sleeve is actually pretty nice. Sorry I am at work and can't post photos. When the tablet is in my day bag and with the protector over the screen I am 100% sure that nothing witll happen to the screen. The hinge is actually in the "sleeve" and allows the tablet to be stood up straight or at an angle for whatever view you prefer. Someone mentioned that there is no SD card accedd but I bought the Samsung USB adapter that plugs into the power cord slot and I run my 1 TB Passport external drive off that to watch movies, view and save documents and even listen to over 10000 songs I have saved on it. Only down side to that accessory is that it SUCKS the battery life. If I could find a splitter where it is charging and using the TB drive I will be set. The case is a lil wider than the Gumdrop and a few ounces heavier but its not too noticeable.Other than not being waterpoof this is by far the most protective case out there for the Note 8.0. I went from the Samsung "book" cover type, then bought the Gumdrop case thinking that was the best one out there but if I would have just waited about 3 weeks I could have saved $65 but oh well. So if anyone wants either one I will sell them dirt cheap. I would say buy it because you will not be disappointed.
Cheers
I just received my OBD today! I was so excited to get it installed onto my 8...the thing is like a virtual tank now!
Had official bookcover on it previously. I would have never bought one but it was a freebie with my purchase. I liked how the cover sort of flipped over onto the screen, almost like it was magnetized. I never used it as a stand because I read that it make them not lie flat anymore. Also like the on/off feature, to which I am accustomed on my Note 2 via "Smart Cover" app. However, that case felt very flimsy. The top cover would slide around on the screen when closed, and give the impression it could slip right out of your hands when carrying it. Protection from a drop? I doubt it! Liked the slim form but having children and a daily commute to and from work, throwing it in my handbag every day, or even taking it out at lunch to read or play a game...I was VERY paranoid and toted it around like a newborn!
If you don't want any added weight or girth to your tablet, then don't get the OBD. It does make it a bit bulkier, heavier, yes. But a HARD plastic screen cap that SNAPS into place when not in use? Awesome! Perfect for transporting in a bag or even just under your arm. Piece of mind, for sure. I'm not testing it out with any drops to be sure, but I'm pretty certain it would fair pretty well.
The outside rubber silicone shell was harder than I thought it would be. However, I think it seems like it would be more durable than a softer material. It's tough to disassemble, so that's also a plus that it won't just come apart on a whim. The built-in screen protector seems pretty decent. Clear as glass. It feels a bit funky with s-pen but it's not horrible. Just have to get used to it. It also seems just a tiny bit bowed (maybe it is just the one I got) so when you push down with the pen near the center you can feel it love ever so slightly towards the glass. Really, no big deal, and could just be mine. Gladly I overlook this for the extra insurance.
Love the rubberized side buttons and port covers. I think they are a definite plus to keep dust & such out. It's not waterproof but if water would get spilled nearby while sitting, or splashed from rain or whatever, it would definitely deflect some or all of it. Don't drop it in the fishtank or the toilet and you should be fine!
I'd be glad to answer any questions. I just got it today so I haven't used it too much yet, but I can tell I'm gonna love it!
Thanks for the feedback! I'm definitely going to get this case!
Awesome..!!
Well I too carry this case for my Note 8.0 and it has just made my Note a strong MACHO product....:laugh:
I got this case for my Note 8 last week and I love it.
I had an Otterbox Commuter on my iPhone 4S: saved it on one occasion in particular that could have cost me a new phone. I also had the Otterbox Defender on my old iPad 2. Both the old iPhone and old iPad are still going strong for my special lady friend and look brand new thanks to Otterbox.
I now have the Otterbox Commuter on my S4, Defender on Note 8 and I'm waiting for my recently ordered iPad Mini Defender.
These are great products, especially if you are a bit rough with your stuff.
How does the s-pen respond to the screen protector on the OBD?
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How does the s-pen respond to the screen protector on the OBD?
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It feels....different. Not as smooth as on glass. You can definitely tell there is more "drag" as you're moving the spen across. I am not one of those super-picky people who complain about everything (lol) so it doesn't really bother me.
The thing I've noticed most about the sensitivity of the screen protector (in general) is that it makes the screen a bit less responsive. You must press a little longer (we're talking such a minute split second though, and I'm talking finger here) and more deliberately. This is caused, in my opinion, by the fact that the protector is not sucked fast to the glass underneath. I can feel mine move the tiniest bit when I press on it (because it is not adhered but simply sits on top) and that small bit d, of space between it and the screen provides a slight delay. Don't let that scare you. It's really not that bad. Of course, like I said, consider the source here (non-picky-person!!!!) I would rather have a well-protected device with a inconsequential difference in touch than a vulnerable, naked one! IMHO
Can you remove the screen protector like in other Otterbox cases?
Just got mine today. I don't think you can remove the screen without messing it up. Prepared to be told I'm wrong though.
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We are going on vacation next month and I don't want to go with just the book cover case. I just ordered this and can't wait to get it.
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StFuz said:
Best investments I made for my Note 2.0 and my Note 8.0. I got the glacier color to match my phone case. The protector sleeve is actually pretty nice. Sorry I am at work and can't post photos. When the tablet is in my day bag and with the protector over the screen I am 100% sure that nothing witll happen to the screen. The hinge is actually in the "sleeve" and allows the tablet to be stood up straight or at an angle for whatever view you prefer. Someone mentioned that there is no SD card accedd but I bought the Samsung USB adapter that plugs into the power cord slot and I run my 1 TB Passport external drive off that to watch movies, view and save documents and even listen to over 10000 songs I have saved on it. Only down side to that accessory is that it SUCKS the battery life. If I could find a splitter where it is charging and using the TB drive I will be set. The case is a lil wider than the Gumdrop and a few ounces heavier but its not too noticeable.Other than not being waterpoof this is by far the most protective case out there for the Note 8.0. I went from the Samsung "book" cover type, then bought the Gumdrop case thinking that was the best one out there but if I would have just waited about 3 weeks I could have saved $65 but oh well. So if anyone wants either one I will sell them dirt cheap. I would say buy it because you will not be disappointed.
Cheers
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So, after owning the Otterbox for 2 months and 9 days, both "tabs" on the side of the "sleeve" that hold the tablet on it have broke. I am by no means rough on this thing at all. Even with the tablet being in the case I am still super easy on it. Submitted an online warranty claim, Sent in a couple of pictures of the damage to Otterbox, they reviewed my claim and within 24 hours I have a replacement heading my way. So even though it broke, I am still 100% satisfied with their product and now with their warranty process. If you haven't gotten an Otterbox yet, I say get one.
Cheers
I have had mine a couple of weeks and I love it. I am glad to hear how responsive Otterbox is to replace it.
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I finally received mine in the mail (1 month wait while overseas from OtterBox, BUT it was free shipping!) and I don't think I'd be happier with another brand. The rubber isn't super soft, nor does it attract lint. I don't think the rubber will stretch any time soon, it's pretty solid! Definitely happy with my purchase!
I'm moderately happy with the Defender on my Note 2 (screen protector isn't flush, rubber stretches) and an considering a Note 8. Anyone got any long term reviews on this case?
re: Defefender-Note 8
Mine has been fine, EXCEPT one of the little tabs broke off of the cover portion. Since it was less than a year, I contacted OtterBox to get a replacement. I had everything gathered beforehand...receipt, place I purchased it, etc...ended up that I didn't really need all that stuff. They just wanted pics documenting the damage, and they also asked for the batch number (probably for quality control purposes-it's imprinted in the rubber.) They sent out the replacement right away via FedEx, had it in a few days. Could not be happier with their EXCELLENT customer service. I'm sure if you did have issues, they would be able to address them with you. Oh, and the rep on the phone was super nice & VERY friendly. :good:
I have the poetic revolution and i couldnt be happier. Its just as solid as the otterbox but only 30$ usd 3 year warranty it took to days from amazon..its feels premium protects well ...

Portenzo Bookcase for the Nexus 9

Today the FedEx guy showed up with my Portenzo bookcase.
This is the first time I've ever ordered a case that cost me 100+ after shipping, but damn does it feel solid. The wood frame isn't too tight and putting the N9 in was easy, removing is just as easy since I have the intellistand feature which allows me to prop up the tablet with the added bonus of allowing me to push at the back of the N9 to remove it if necessary.
I got it in black (yes I'm not very creative) but to me it looks like a nice mystery book with no title. I didn't get the magnets that keep the cover closed, it was already quite expensive and I felt that I could live with a strap that kept the case closed. It feels great to hold and the sleep/wake magnet works pretty well.
Overall the case is very solid and in my opinion is a bit expensive but does offer the style and a sense of security for the N9.
LinS123 said:
Today the FedEx guy showed up with my Portenzo bookcase.
This is the first time I've ever ordered a case that cost me 100+ after shipping, but damn does it feel solid. The wood frame isn't too tight and putting the N9 in was easy, removing is just as easy since I have the intellistand feature which allows me to prop up the tablet with the added bonus of allowing me to push at the back of the N9 to remove it if necessary.
I got it in black (yes I'm not very creative) but to me it looks like a nice mystery book with no title. I didn't get the magnets that keep the cover closed, it was already quite expensive and I felt that I could live with a strap that kept the case closed. It feels great to hold and the sleep/wake magnet works pretty well.
Overall the case is very solid and in my opinion is a bit expensive but does offer the style and a sense of security for the N9.
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I'm jealous. Hopefully I will get mine soon!
I just bought a Portenzo for my wife's Ipad and received it yesterday. They are amazing cases. I really don't think you can find a better case for a tablet.
Portenzo Bookcase
LinS123 said:
Today the FedEx guy showed up with my Portenzo bookcase.
This is the first time I've ever ordered a case that cost me 100+ after shipping, but damn does it feel solid. The wood frame isn't too tight and putting the N9 in was easy, removing is just as easy since I have the intellistand feature which allows me to prop up the tablet with the added bonus of allowing me to push at the back of the N9 to remove it if necessary.
I got it in black (yes I'm not very creative) but to me it looks like a nice mystery book with no title. I didn't get the magnets that keep the cover closed, it was already quite expensive and I felt that I could live with a strap that kept the case closed. It feels great to hold and the sleep/wake magnet works pretty well.
Overall the case is very solid and in my opinion is a bit expensive but does offer the style and a sense of security for the N9.
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Hey thanks for sharing great pics. Can you tell me where you got the bookcase or show me a link? It's pretty expensive in my opinion lol but I would like to check it out.
Just google Portenzo and you should find it. It is expensive and I can't get myself to pay that premium.
http://shop.portenzo.com/nexus-9/
That's the link. It's expensive but then they also have the pricier leather model. I wish I was loaded and got that. Maybe for my next tablet, for now I like the standard bookcover.
Amazing wonder if the ship to Canada?
What about the camera you need to remove the N9 for pictures?
Worry about heat?
AstroDigital said:
Amazing wonder if the ship to Canada?
What about the camera you need to remove the N9 for pictures?
Worry about heat?
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I think you have to pay $5 more for the camera hole. Keep in mind, they hand make these tablets made to order for each customer individually. It is DEFINITELY worth the price, in my opinion, it is just a matter of how long you will keep the tablet. I bought one for my wife because she will keep her Ipad until the damn thing literally falls apart. For me, I wouldn't dare spend that much money on a tablet case because I always have to upgrade.
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I think you have to pay $5 more for the camera hole. Keep in mind, they hand make these tablets made to order for each customer individually. It is DEFINITELY worth the price, in my opinion, it is just a matter of how long you will keep the tablet. I bought one for my wife because she will keep her Ipad until the damn thing literally falls apart. For me, I wouldn't dare spend that much money on a tablet case because I always have to upgrade.
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Thanks I found out about the camera from the website, after I sent Portenzo a message.
Do you think ventilation maybe a issue with the tablet in the case?
People are complaining about heat, it looks like it may if anything add to the issue.
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Thanks I found out about the camera from the website, after I sent Portenzo a message.
Do you think ventilation maybe a issue with the tablet in the case?
People are complaining about heat, it looks like it may if anything add to the issue.
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I dont think so but I'm sure it depends on the tablet. The nexus 9 does get hot but i dont think the portenzo will be effected more than other cases.
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Amazing wonder if the ship to Canada?
What about the camera you need to remove the N9 for pictures?
Worry about heat?
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They do ship to Canada and provide different shipping options too.
I did pay for the camera cut out, it was 5 dollars I think. As for the heat output, the N9 has room to breathe and it doesn't seem to hinder the tablet from cooling down in anyway. I'm not sure (is wood a good insulator/conductor?), but to me it works fine.
I plan on keeping the N9 for a while since it's just the right size compared to the smaller N7 (2012 and 2013) and the Shield Tablet just wasn't to my liking. So spending this much for a sense of security is nice, plus it feels amazing.
I just ordered one, sure from what I read I will not be disappointed
Looks amazing and is my style but I'm entirely too active to have one of these.
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I just took delivery of mine and it looks great! Maybe I have more money than sense, but this is my third Portenzo case, the others were for my Nexus 7s. It looks particularly good in this size and aspect ratio, and the angle on the stand is perfect. I wouldn't use anything else.
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They do ship to Canada and provide different shipping options too.
I did pay for the camera cut out, it was 5 dollars I think. As for the heat output, the N9 has room to breathe and it doesn't seem to hinder the tablet from cooling down in anyway. I'm not sure (is wood a good insulator/conductor?), but to me it works fine.
I plan on keeping the N9 for a while since it's just the right size compared to the smaller N7 (2012 and 2013) and the Shield Tablet just wasn't to my liking. So spending this much for a sense of security is nice, plus it feels amazing.
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Well, I was not considering this case until reading this thread, and it seems that this would be a worthwhile investment. LinS123, wood is a great insulator- there should be NO problems with letting the tab breathe. I think that this case looks quite worth the money.
Got it
Two things I am not fond about.
1) It is thicker than I expected. Kind of a let down makes the Nexus 9 in the case at least twice as thick than a naked Nexus 9.
2) Should of not got the elastic.
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Got it
Two things I am not fond about.
1) It is thicker than I expected. Kind of a let down makes the Nexus 9 in the case at least twice as thick than a naked Nexus 9.
2) Should of not got the elastic.
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Yeah, I just am not using a case, I think. Too much bulk. I have a little carrying case, but I'm not going to strap it into an overbearing piece of plastic.
I purchased an OTG cable, does not fit in the cut out.
It is shame, not going to cut down the opening and while the Nexus 9 is nice a secure do not want to pull it out of the case.
These are some great looking cases. I especially like the leather ones. I might have to pick one up! Thanks for sharing op!

[Q] S6 non-wallet leather case (back only, brown, in US)

I think there used to be a thread on this, but I can't find it anymore. Here's my question:
I'm looking for a thin leather case for my S6. Not so much a wallet style case, sleeve, or one with a closure, just a protector for the back and sides of the device. My experience with PU or low-grade leather (<$20) isn't great, so I'm fine spending a little more money (>$50).
Ideally, it would be brown and available in the US. The options I've seen so far don't fit in with the color, price, or domestic availability. Any suggestions? If you're going to suggest these, I've already looked at them and they are a bust:
I'm an XDA noob, so I'm prevented from posting links, but I've looked at cases from Stilgut (can't order from Amazon US and potential returns to DE seem difficult), Sena (no back-only case for the S6), Vaja (not making a case for the S6), and Montblanc (if I'm gonna spend $110, I need one that is perfect, i.e., brown). None fit the bill.
Again, apologies if this is a duplicate thread. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
P.S. As an aside, I'd consider a wooden case, but none of those (Carved, Toast, etc.) seem to be what I'm looking for either.
I'm interested in this as well.
The official Apple leather case for the iPhone is perfection for what I want. Unfortunately, that's one area that Samsung doesn't seem willing to take design queues from. I wouldn't mind paying 40/50 bucks if its THE only case id want/need.
lucas.scott said:
I'm interested in this as well.
The official Apple leather case for the iPhone is perfection for what I want. Unfortunately, that's one area that Samsung doesn't seem willing to take design queues from. I wouldn't mind paying 40/50 bucks if its THE only case id want/need.
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Currently choosing between Galaxy S6 and iPhone 6. As silly as it might sound, a good leather (shell) case is one of my highest priorities.
I broke 3 iPhone 5's until I put the official leather case on it (I always disliked plasticky cases).
It added more grip, and just enough protection from average falls.
Ridiculous really. Choosing a $1000 piece of tech based on a $50 accessory. But that's just how it is.
Hopefully someone knows of something.
They haven't announced the S6 case yet but I have always been happy with with Vajacases - if you are willing to drop some extra cash. Here's one of the options for the S5: http://www.vajacases.com/galaxy-s5-leather-cases/premium-leather-grip
Edit: I see you mentioned Vaja is not making an S6 case. What is your source? It usually takes them a few months before the new models are ready.
There actually was a thread on this subject until recently, but when trying to find it now, I just realized it has inexplicably been deleted. Had a few good examples in it, but they're obviously not reachable now. I'll post the link here below in case the thread turns up again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/accessories/simple-leather-wallet-case-t3095597/
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They haven't announced the S6 case yet but I have always been happy with with Vajacases - if you are willing to drop some extra cash. Here's one of the options for the S5: {link removed because I'm new and can't have links in any of my posts}
Edit: I see you mentioned Vaja is not making an S6 case. What is your source? It usually takes them a few months before the new models are ready.
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I contacted Vaja through their website back in April and they told me that it was under development. When I checked in last week, they said that a case for the S6 "is not currently being planned for production. We planned to develop a line in the past but I am afraid right now the project has been cancelled."
Whether that means it may show up later, who knows, but for now we're out of luck. Boo.
Yeah, no clue either why the other thread disappeared. It led me to a couple of versions of Apple-esque leather Galaxy S6 cases on eBay.
This one without a plastic fill in the camera/HRM cutout is the one that I already bought in dark blue for my black S6. In short:
Top and bottom are left uncovered
Fit is pretty good, no looseness anywhere really
The power + volume down buttons are both properly clicky
The volume up is pretty mushy, but not too bad
No interference with headphone jack or bottom USB port
The width of the case means that the camera module no longer touches the surface when laid on its back
It does NOT, however, appear to have any lift on the front so your screen will touch the surface when laid facedown
The last item was probably so that swiping in from the edge of the screen is still quite comfortable
Overall I'm pleased enough with the quality and feel of the PU leather cases that I might end up also trying out this slightly different version with plastic fill for the camera/HRM cutout . I'm not sure if it's unclear photos but it looks like this version has full coverage around at least the top of the bottom?
Anyhow, the one that I have feels a lot like the Apple Leather case I've tried out on iPhone 6, which is exactly what I was looking for.
sosquidtaste said:
Yeah, no clue either why the other thread disappeared. It led me to a couple of versions of Apple-esque leather Galaxy S6 cases on eBay.
This one without a plastic fill in the camera/HRM cutout is the one that I already bought in dark blue for my black S6. In short:
Top and bottom are left uncovered
Fit is pretty good, no looseness anywhere really
The power + volume down buttons are both properly clicky
The volume up is pretty mushy, but not too bad
No interference with headphone jack or bottom USB port
The width of the case means that the camera module no longer touches the surface when laid on its back
It does NOT, however, appear to have any lift on the front so your screen will touch the surface when laid facedown
The last item was probably so that swiping in from the edge of the screen is still quite comfortable
Overall I'm pleased enough with the quality and feel of the PU leather cases that I might end up also trying out this slightly different version with plastic fill for the camera/HRM cutout . I'm not sure if it's unclear photos but it looks like this version has full coverage around at least the top of the bottom?
Anyhow, the one that I have feels a lot like the Apple Leather case I've tried out on iPhone 6, which is exactly what I was looking for.
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Wow, thank you so much. The "more expensive one" is exactly what I am looking for. No cutouts on the side or anything. Looks perfect. Out of curiosity, how long did shipping take? I have the worst luck with that kind of thing, and it looks like it ships out of China.
Also, since you have the dark blue/black S6, can you throw up a few images for me?
I just ordered one of each... hopefully they arrive before S7....
Looks like one of these would work. Thanks for the tip.
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Wow, thank you so much. The "more expensive one" is exactly what I am looking for. No cutouts on the side or anything. Looks perfect. Out of curiosity, how long did shipping take? I have the worst luck with that kind of thing, and it looks like it ships out of China.
Also, since you have the dark blue/black S6, can you throw up a few images for me?
I just ordered one of each... hopefully they arrive before S7....
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Yeah, the buttons on the second cases I linked in my post look like they'll have better buttons. On mine it's like... slits on each end of the button section.
Shipping was surprisingly fast for me. I think I wanted like... just under two weeks? I was quoted a shipment time like 30+ days from purchase (which is insane), so I was pleasantly surprised when it showed up in normal China --> US shipment time.
If I can get a few minutes to myself at home tonight I'll try and snap a few choice pics of the dark blue on my black S6.
Though it's not without its tradeoffs, I think you'll be more than pleased with your order
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Yeah, the buttons on the second cases I linked in my post look like they'll have better buttons. On mine it's like... slits on each end of the button section.
Shipping was surprisingly fast for me. I think I wanted like... just under two weeks? I was quoted a shipment time like 30+ days from purchase (which is insane), so I was pleasantly surprised when it showed up in normal China --> US shipment time.
If I can get a few minutes to myself at home tonight I'll try and snap a few choice pics of the dark blue on my black S6.
Though it's not without its tradeoffs, I think you'll be more than pleased with your order
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Awesome man - thanks for the info!
Much appreciated on the pics!
ronnotronald said:
I think there used to be a thread on this, but I can't find it anymore. Here's my question:
I'm looking for a thin leather case for my S6. Not so much a wallet style case, sleeve, or one with a closure, just a protector for the back and sides of the device. My experience with PU or low-grade leather (<$20) isn't great, so I'm fine spending a little more money (>$50).
Ideally, it would be brown and available in the US. The options I've seen so far don't fit in with the color, price, or domestic availability. Any suggestions? If you're going to suggest these, I've already looked at them and they are a bust:
I'm an XDA noob, so I'm prevented from posting links, but I've looked at cases from Stilgut (can't order from Amazon US and potential returns to DE seem difficult), Sena (no back-only case for the S6), Vaja (not making a case for the S6), and Montblanc (if I'm gonna spend $110, I need one that is perfect, i.e., brown). None fit the bill.
Again, apologies if this is a duplicate thread. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
P.S. As an aside, I'd consider a wooden case, but none of those (Carved, Toast, etc.) seem to be what I'm looking for either.
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lucas.scott said:
I'm interested in this as well.
The official Apple leather case for the iPhone is perfection for what I want. Unfortunately, that's one area that Samsung doesn't seem willing to take design queues from. I wouldn't mind paying 40/50 bucks if its THE only case id want/need.
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I found a high end solution for you guys as well. Reviews on Bouletta from the Sony forums talk about them being some of the highest quality leather cases on the market.
BLACK: http://www.bouletta.com/index.php?i...xy_s6_ultimate_jacket_other_models-uj_rbt1_s6
BROWN: http://www.bouletta.com/index.php?i...xy_s6_ultimate_jacket_other_models-uj_rbt5_s6
Looks nice, but having the cut outs on the side just make it feel cheap to me...Even if it's of the highest quality
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Looks nice, but having the cut outs on the side just make it feel cheap to me...Even if it's of the highest quality
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I know exactly what you mean. Originally I wanted an Xperia Z3, but there are literally no cases available without massive side cut-outs. The Z3 one is borderline ridiculous: http://www.bouletta.com/index.php?id_product=103&controller=product
The Galaxy S6 one isn't too bad. Not as good as the standard Apple one though unfortunately =\
I have the second case linked from ebay earlier. It is nowhere near leather feeling. I would say it feels more like a smoothed out velvet than anything. Also, the case does not really offer any protection for the front. It might stick out 1mm past the screen. Overall it is an okay case for the price, but if anyone wants a "leather" feel to a case, this is not the one for you. The buttons are not that great either. You lose most of the tactility from the keys with the case. I imagine over time they will break in and feel better, but after a week of use it doesn't feel great, but doesn't feel as bad as it did at first.
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I found a high end solution for you guys as well. Reviews on Bouletta from the Sony forums talk about them being some of the highest quality leather cases on the market.
BLACK: no links for me
BROWN: no links for me
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Am I missing something? I can't seem to find a price/how to buy? Is it a non-US site?. Also, the brown case looks grayish, no? (I'm legit color blind though, so that could just be my broken eyes)
Hey that bouletta case looks really nice. However, is the thickness of the back of the case enough so that the camera doesn't touch the surface the phone is placed on? I've seen many posts of people saying how they cracked the camera lenses after just putting the s6 on its back like on a table or something similar.
Thanks
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Am I missing something? I can't seem to find a price/how to buy? Is it a non-US site?. Also, the brown case looks grayish, no? (I'm legit color blind though, so that could just be my broken eyes)
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You're right. I've sent them an email to find out.
ARRIVED!!
This one came in today : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Orig...Domain_0&var=570673785727&hash=item3f4af29e66
Gotta say... i'm insanely impressed. I can't imagine getting much closer to the official Apple Leather case than this. Sure, there is virtually no drop protection, but that's not what I'm into. Just need to keep it scratch free and get that camera bump evened out. I have attached some pics.
Biggest problem for most people will be lack of lip around the screen. It's pretty much flush with the aluminum on the device. I actually prefer that since I never ever place my device face down... so i'm able to still feel the slight curve to the glass.
The buttons are a little stiff right now - but I'm going to chalk that up to material. It'd be awesome if they wear in over time, but not a big deal if they don't. I'm thrilled with this thing for 8 bucks... could easily sell for 30 in US retail stores.
I also got the 5 dollar version and it's not nearly as nice. That two dollars makes all the difference in the world apparently.
lucas.scott said:
This one came in today : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Orig...Domain_0&var=570673785727&hash=item3f4af29e66
Gotta say... i'm insanely impressed. I can't imagine getting much closer to the official Apple Leather case than this. Sure, there is virtually no drop protection, but that's not what I'm into. Just need to keep it scratch free and get that camera bump evened out. I have attached some pics.
Biggest problem for most people will be lack of lip around the screen. It's pretty much flush with the aluminum on the device. I actually prefer that since I never ever place my device face down... so i'm able to still feel the slight curve to the glass.
The buttons are a little stiff right now - but I'm going to chalk that up to material. It'd be awesome if they wear in over time, but not a big deal if they don't. I'm thrilled with this thing for 8 bucks... could easily sell for 30 in US retail stores.
I also got the 5 dollar version and it's not nearly as nice. That two dollars makes all the difference in the world apparently.
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Thanks for the pictures. It looks to be a little off around the bottom of the phone. Is it just the angle of the picture or is that the case?
I had purchased something like this for an iPhone 6 plus that I had and it just slightly didn't fit the phone. The cut out for the camera was off were it wouldn't sit flush with the back of the phone. I ended up just biting the bullet and paying the 50 odd bucks for the apple one. It would be nice if there was a decent quality real leather option, even if the price was higher. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Again thanks for the picture.

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