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[Q] Sprint Screen Protectors

Anyone else using the sprint screen protectors for their epic? I just bought a pack and I'm really disappointed with them. They are just big enough to cover the screen it self. So there is no margin for error when putting them on. Also I think they are supposed to be anti-glare so make the beautiful screen of my epic hazy and almost pixelated. Any suggestions for decent clear screen protectors?

Does the epic really need a screen protector? I thought the screen was made from some super durable stuff?
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i know i made the sprint people put one on
i can take the hazyness until i get my skinomi
i recommend skinomi

Its still plastic and there are a lot of things that can scratch plastic.
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I'll give skinomi a try. Thanks.
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I took mine back for a refund. They just cost too much and made the screen feel unatural. They let me keep the one I had installed already until my new protectors came.
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People have been saying that the skinomi ones are too long I think... I'd recommend the phantom skinz one since I've had no problem, they have a cut out for the sensors and camera (which the skinomi does not have) and they have a lifetime guarantee.
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this is the one im talking bout i ordered one it has lifetime replacements and openings for the sensors and cam it is awesome on the htc hero so i hope it continues

Well, all I know is that at least the first batch of Skinomis didn't turn out so well. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746037
Too long, but possibly good customer service? And like I said, no cutouts for the lights/sensor/camera. Skinomi has gotten plenty of good reviews for other phones, but for some reason the ones for the Epic haven't been well received.

the site i posted showed a different pic check it out

The Sprint ones are total crap. Took mine back a few hours after I bought them.

yes they are but fools wont take it back cuz i used one

Screen protectors are a waste of your money on this phone

thus why i removed mine

styckx said:
Screen protectors are a waste of your money on this phone
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I suppose the people with scratches on their glass already would disagree.
I work in dusty, dirty environments. Any phone of mine is getting protection.

anthromatt said:
I suppose the people with scratches on their glass already would disagree.
I work in dusty, dirty environments. Any phone of mine is getting protection.
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Yup! I am no doubt in the minority but I have managed to scratch my screen. It was in strange circumstances having to do with hiking on a trail (and I hardly ever hike, less have my phone out...) but scratchedy it went. No 20ft heights or bouncing. Just fell face down from my pocket on a dirt path with a pebble somewhere in there. They're not invincible, people.

lol unless ur doing stuff like that you dont need a protector
under normal use pocket car table things like that no but if ur roughing it why not protect it and get a skinomi

churro7 said:
the site i posted showed a different pic check it out
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What site are you talking about?
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damn guess it was a different forum
but its on the skinomi website look at the top

Scratched mine easily... I have 2g steel plugs on my lobes, and the first time i heard them click against the screen I knew I'd have a problem. sure enough, there are tiny scratches from where my ear hit the screen. My fault for not putting a protector on sooner.
Also managed to put a little hairline scratch down by the menu button, but i have no clue how i did that.

Accessories for Galaxy R

This is another placeholder thread!

Case + Scratch Guard
Hi Team,
Since SGR doesnt sport a Gorilla Glass display, which is the best combination of Case + Scratch Guard to protect it?

I've already ordered case mate barely there. Quality of CM is usually very high.
About screen protectors- so I haven't seen/tested any good one. All of them are cheap, self-adhesive **** impossible to apply and avoid bubbles. Either Zagg or Copter doesn't support our device yet, but maybe some of you found a decent one?
EDIT: I've just given a shot to this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150684872722#ht_1976wt_1026
According to users' opinions it gives a decent protection for perfect price.

m.kochan10 said:
I've already ordered case mate barely there. Quality of CM is usually very high.
About screen protectors- so I haven't seen/tested any good one. All of them are cheap, self-adhesive **** impossible to apply and avoid bubbles. Either Zagg or Copter doesn't support our device yet, but maybe some of you found a decent one?
EDIT: I've just given a shot to this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150684872722#ht_1976wt_1026
According to users' opinions it gives a decent protection for perfect price.
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I only buy matte screen protectors off eBay.
Usually i got for the cheapest **** there. I cannot tell the difference between a $20 and a $1 screen protector.
The best way to put on the protector is to apply it right after removing the original protector that comes when u buy the phone brand new.
I know i know.....Most of u buy the protectors AFTER u buy the phone.
I've always bought the protectors and case before i buy the phone hahaha.
Nevermind this.
Next, never use the microfibre cloth **** they provide for free.
Usually the cheap yellow cloth they give is useless.
I have 1 from Ray Ban, 1 from Swarowksi, 1 from Oakley.
Use the best u can afford. The difference is great !
Wipe down the entire phone.
Careful never to touch the screen.
Some ppl apply a few drops of water on the screen for moving it after applying.
I dun.
Make sure no dust or specks.
If any, use a sticky tape.
Dun peel of the whole screen protector.
Follow this method....
This is similar to how i do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZTFd-9xWbE
Cheers !

Thanks a lot mate!
I've usually followed all steps you wrote but always some small piece of **** goes under the film and as a result I get unremovable bubble, so I don't trust those self-adhesive protectors. I've already used 5 of them (cheap **** between 2 and 7 USD) and never succeeded I've always had better luck with zagg's invisible shield, i mean those applicable with water.

So you have to buy a Swarovski Crystal for 1000US$ to get the cloth and then be able to clean the screen.
hehe... just joking....
Good guide.

I used Vikuiti screen protectors in the past and found them very good
I don't see the ones i used before, but they have several ones for the Galaxy R
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/search.html?searchfield=Samsung+I9103+Galaxy+R&geraet=6345

m.kochan10 said:
Thanks a lot mate!
I've usually followed all steps you wrote but always some small piece of **** goes under the film and as a result I get unremovable bubble, so I don't trust those self-adhesive protectors. I've already used 5 of them (cheap **** between 2 and 7 USD) and never succeeded I've always had better luck with zagg's invisible shield, i mean those applicable with water.
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If u get **** under the film just before setting it down, lift up the film and use sticky/celo tape and pick it up. then continue laying down the film.
Only release the film down completely when u cannot see any dirt specks between screen n film.
User a tooth pick/hook/pin....anything that will not leave stain or grease.
our fingers are grease magnets.
buy those 10 sheets for under $5-8 from eBay and practice.
U will become Master Screen Protector Installer !
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legion1911 said:
So you have to buy a Swarovski Crystal for 1000US$ to get the cloth and then be able to clean the screen.
hehe... just joking....
Good guide.
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U can pick some off eBay for cheap.
Just need to look.
Cheers !

s4sixty said:
buy those 10 sheets for under $5-8 from eBay and practice.
U will become Master Screen Protector Installer !
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hehehe that was good

Thanks you Guys..
Agreed that CaseMate is one of the best quality for cases. Which type would be good enough to withstand accidental drops? Rubber/Jelly/Hard Case?
Also, is there a suggested brand for the screen protectors? I require one that is scratch & fingerprint-resistant.
Read online that Matt-type protectors make the screen look dim! Is it true?
Thanks in advance,
Bharath K

snbkumar said:
Thanks you Guys..
Agreed that CaseMate is one of the best quality for cases. Which type would be good enough to withstand accidental drops? Rubber/Jelly/Hard Case?
Also, is there a suggested brand for the screen protectors? I require one that is scratch & fingerprint-resistant.
Read online that Matt-type protectors make the screen look dim! Is it true?
Thanks in advance,
Bharath K
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For accidental drops, I've found TPU and Leather cases the best.
They stay on the phone after the phone drops.
Hard cases, either plastic(coloured type) or polycarbonate(transparent type) with pop off the phone when dropped.
Matte protectors are finger-print resistant but allows about 80%(just my guess....so dun sue me if found otherwise) of light to pass through.
Clear screen protectors allow almost all the light(99% my guess) to pass through from the screen output.
The worst is mirror screen protector which allows about 60%(my guess again) of light.
All the figures are based on the fact the screen brightness is at maximum n only an assumption.
So it all depends on ur requirements and needs.
Cheers !

I received my CM barely there today, and it fits perfect!

Screen guard
Any one using the screen guards availabe at flipkart.com (INDIA) ?

m.kochan10 said:
I received my CM barely there today, and it fits perfect!
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Whats the price and where did u buy from. Pls post pics
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zerocool_rkl said:
Any one using the screen guards availabe at flipkart.com (INDIA) ?
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I was using the Rainbow one. It was good. I have 2 more left. XD. I switched it for the Capdase one when my case came.
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m.kochan10 said:
Thanks a lot mate!
I've usually followed all steps you wrote but always some small piece of **** goes under the film and as a result I get unremovable bubble, so I don't trust those self-adhesive protectors. I've already used 5 of them (cheap **** between 2 and 7 USD) and never succeeded I've always had better luck with zagg's invisible shield, i mean those applicable with water.
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Dude. All screen protectors are applicable with water. Its what I always do. No air bubbles.
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I am also using the rainbow screen guards...Really good and serves the purpose well.
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AbShake96 said:
I was using the Rainbow one. It was good. I have 2 more left. XD. I switched it for the Capdase one when my case came.
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I am thinking to buy it in the next time.

AbShake96 said:
Dude. All screen protectors are applicable with water. Its what I always do. No air bubbles.
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Sure you can apply water to everything...but some of protectors just won't work (known from my own experience)
Some of them are applicable with water some of them (mostly the cheapest) are not. I tried to apply the latter with water anyway...and they ended up in a thrash can
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Whats the price and where did u buy from. Pls post pics
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I bought it here
http://www.mytrendyphone.se/shop/samsung-i9103-galaxy-65699p.html

Nokia BH-505
I purchased this !!!
awesome sound quality, you will be lost

Screen Protectors without Orange Peel Effect

I've gone through a ridiculous amount of screen protectors and all of them have had an annoying orange peel affect. Anyone know of any brands that don't have the this major problem?
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This brand is good on the ipad with out the orange Peel. Its 6 for one but its worth it
http://www.boxwave.com/t-mobile-g2x-screen-protectors/t-mobile-g2x-cleartouch-crystal/bwpdd/fp-ztcm/
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i always use and recommend body guardz to my friends and family I've never had that on any I've put on
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Sk8trfred said:
i always use and recommend body guardz to my friends and family I've never had that on any I've put on
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But body guards have the orange Peel
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Pardon my naiveness, What is an orange peel effect?

cricketAC said:
Pardon my naiveness, What is an orange peel effect?
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You where only trying to help, not being naive. I don't know if I can explain this correct but if if you feel the surface of a lemon or an orange it has a weird sort of greasy feeling. That is the case with almost all wet install screen protectors like zagg and body guardz. Although i believe body guards has dry install ones so if you are talking about that one, then I havent tried it yet.

moeahmad1995 said:
You where only trying to help, not being naive. I don't know if I can explain this correct but if if you feel the surface of a lemon or an orange it has a weird sort of greasy feeling. That is the case with almost all wet install screen protectors like zagg and body guardz. Although i believe body guards has dry install ones so if you are talking about that one, then I havent tried it yet.
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It's not so much the feel of the screen I'm talking about, the screen protectors I've used mess up the screen's picture quality adding this bumpy look (similar to an orange).
It's really noticable on the G2x because of it's IPS display (i think).

iArtisan said:
It's not so much the feel of the screen I'm talking about, the screen protectors I've used mess up the screen's picture quality adding this bumpy look (similar to an orange).
It's really noticable on the G2x because of it's IPS display (i think).
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maybe your installing them wrong my screen is just as clear as it was when i bought the phone. only a little more glare
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iArtisan said:
It's not so much the feel of the screen I'm talking about, the screen protectors I've used mess up the screen's picture quality adding this bumpy look (similar to an orange).
It's really noticable on the G2x because of it's IPS display (i think).
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Yeah I forgot to mention the quality looks oilier and just looks weird if that's a word.
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moeahmad1995 said:
Yeah I forgot to mention the quality looks oilier and just looks weird if that's a word.
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Exactly. Any suggestions on a screen protector without that oily look?

iArtisan said:
Exactly. Any suggestions on a screen protector without that oily look?
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The one I posted in the second post. Boxwave
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moeahmad1995 said:
The one I posted in the second post. Boxwave
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Do you have any actual experience with it on the G2x since you were talking about the iPad version
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cricketAC said:
Pardon my naiveness, What is an orange peel effect?
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http://apphunger.com/62/zagg-invisible-shield-review-for-the-ipad-2/
Just scroll down till you see it

iArtisan said:
Do you have any actual experience with it on the G2x since you were talking about the iPad version
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Yeah sorry, should have made it clear that I don't have experience with the g2x, only with the the ipad version
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moeahmad1995 said:
Yeah sorry, should have made it clear that I don't have experience with the g2x, only with the the ipad version
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It's cool man I might look into it.
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I just bought one for my G2x, it's by XO Skins.
I can't even really tell its there at first glance. I mean, obviously I know though.
http://xoskins.com/ Search for G2x and you'll see full body and just screen.
I got the just screen one and it goes edge to edge. It does have a bit of a rubbery feel, but it doesn't bother me too much since it's not my daily driver anymore. :x
Just swiping you don't really feel it, but if you slow down, you can. I heard it goes away after a few weeks though.
EDIT: An important note is that this is a wet-apply protector, so you'll have to give it a bit before you go back into using the phone.
EDIT2: Here's some pics.

like stated above the one I use is a wet apply method and it is a ZAGG. it has a slight rubbery feel but you get used to it and it doesn't have the orange peel you are trying to avoid. plus it comes with a no questions asked lifetime warranty so if I take it off or mess it up they send me a new one free of charge

stay away from the Skinomi DryTech ones, I took mine off after a week because of the lousy feel-- plus some of the air bubbles never went away.

samlikely said:
stay away from the Skinomi DryTech ones, I took mine off after a week because of the lousy feel-- plus some of the air bubbles never went away.
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Skinomi TechSkin on the other hand is a different story. I don't care for the super-rubbery feel of some screen protectors either. TechSkin, in my opinion, is better. I think it may have to do with the thickness. The "orange peel" is minimal compared to say BODYGUARDZ (which I have used). I don't know, there's just something different. It seems clearer, feels more like a dry applied protector. That said, It is a wet-apply screen protector, and does have some of those undesirable qualities. It's quality though puts it somewhere in the middle of those two types, and I really like it.

The orange peel effect can be due to low quality screen protectors or a bad application. I've had good luck with Zagg (but I hated the feel, so I returned it), Ghost Armor, and PhantomSkinz. Ghost and Phantom both feel great, but Ghost is a bit easier to apply. Had a few resistant bubbles near the edge of the PhantomSkinz

Atrix 2 Screen protector India

Any good screen protector for Atrix 2 in India? Please recommend.

androiddecoded said:
Any good screen protector for Atrix 2 in India? Please recommend.
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i bought the amzer one from flipkart.....its pretty ok.....matte finish makes the touch smooth.......but pics/videos on the screen look better without this scratchguard.

johngeorge82 said:
i bought the amzer one from flipkart.....its pretty ok.....matte finish makes the touch smooth.......but pics/videos on the screen look better without this scratchguard.
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I did the same, really makes the display dull,..
Here's my solution for it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo1z4_31y_0
Anyway. I got another screen protector. Just bought another BIG screen protector and cut it to Atrix 2's screen size.

wouldn't applying vaseline to screen make it messy & attract more dust?
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Super_Commando said:
wouldn't applying vaseline to screen make it messy & attract more dust?
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didn't get any dust or get messy. I thought same before. .. it just didn't
Of course I wiped off excess Vaseline off it. It also made the screen a bit smoother to operate.

NHS2008 said:
I did the same, really makes the display dull,..
Here's my solution for it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo1z4_31y_0
Anyway. I got another screen protector. Just bought another BIG screen protector and cut it to Atrix 2's screen size.
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Niiice !!! It does make a huge difference !!
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NHS2008 said:
didn't get any dust or get messy. I thought same before. .. it just didn't
Of course I wiped off excess Vaseline off it. It also made the screen a bit smoother to operate.
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I forgot to mention...I have a habit of wiping the screen with a wet cloth after every phone call......so how often do I apply the vaseline?
And does the vaseline make the fingers oily? :/

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Niiice !!! It does make a huge difference !!
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I forgot to mention...I have a habit of wiping the screen with a wet cloth after every phone call......so how often do I apply the vaseline?
And does the vaseline make the fingers oily? :/
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Once you will wipe it with wet cloth it will remove the Vaseline, When the screen loses all the Vaseline residue, It will develop the slight fogging effect on the screen. I say once a week won't matter. Fingers don't get oily if you do not leave excess Vaseline on screen.
I found it out during the horrid winter we had in December...

NHS2008 said:
Once you will wipe it with wet cloth it will remove the Vaseline, When the screen loses all the Vaseline residue, It will develop the slight fogging effect on the screen. I say once a week won't matter. Fingers don't get oily if you do not leave excess Vaseline on screen.
I found it out during the horrid winter we had in December...
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ok cool thanks:good::highfive:

Plasti-Dip'd my battery cover.

For those of you that aren't familiar with Plasti-dip, it's basically rubber in an aerosol can. It dries matte black in color and it's rubber, so of course, it's nice and grippy . It doesn't hurt that it looks good either. And if you decide you don't want it anymore, it peels off like a piece of tape. It really is amazing stuff.
http://imgur.com/a/6AL5c
In the top pic, you can vaguely make out the verizon logo, but it's nothing a second coat can't fix.
I'm going to walk around with like I normally would and check out the wear to decide if additional coats are necessary.

I never thot about that haha I stay plastic dipping my maros hood but never thought about phone haha
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POL3ND said:
For those of you that aren't familiar with Plasti-dip, it's basically rubber in an aerosol can. It dries matte black in color and it's rubber, so of course, it's nice and grippy . It doesn't hurt that it looks good either. And if you decide you don't want it anymore, it peels off like a piece of tape. It really is amazing stuff.
http://imgur.com/a/6AL5c
In the top pic, you can vaguely make out the verizon logo, but it's nothing a second coat can't fix.
I'm going to walk around with like I normally would and check out the wear to decide if additional coats are necessary.
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Interesting. I just picked up the S3 and I feel like I have to hold it with two hands at all times so I don't drop it. I'll be interesting to hear how your fix stands up to day to day use.

Looks good.. i'm really considering doing this to mine now

Looks...interesting. Would a phone skin would stick to it? I am tired of my pebble blue battery cover and blue themes. Black looks great with everything.

how does it affect reception, if at all?

Looks pretty cool. What is the cost of plastidip compared to a stock back panel?
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Nice work.
No drips and it looks very smooth with slight texturing.
Even though the S3 is smooth it's still has a little grip to it.
I liked the S2 textured back cover, as well as the grippy Evo 4G, but you seem to have found a nice diy fix
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ricecake2000 said:
Looks pretty cool. What is the cost of plastidip compared to a stock back panel?
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Found this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LNOOEO/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
But you can search around for maybe a better price, and read reviews on durability.
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markkal123 said:
how does it affect reception, if at all?
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I would say that rubber, silicone, etc. wouldn't affect reception at all.
Metal, aluminum, etc. would though.
Or metallic substances embedded in a substance which otherwise wouldn't affect reception.

ricecake2000 said:
Looks pretty cool. What is the cost of plastidip compared to a stock back panel?
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You can find a can at Home Depot or Lowes for like 8 bux. Comes in black, white and yellow.
The one coat job didn't hold long. It started to pull up along the edge. So i'm thinking a quick spray around the edge up into the underside should secure it a bit better (might also fix that creak noise near the volume rocker ). The thinner the better so as to not obstruct the snaps. Will update when completed

Just got a can of black for 5.95 at home depot.
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i'm really considering doing this to mine now

I just sprayed the exoskeleton of my trident case. So far it feels pretty grippy.
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I did this to my commuter case and it peeled off in 2 weeks.

blown..keep it off the concrete, itll last longer :good:
ive been plasti dipping for about 2 years now - excellent ****

Biker1 said:
Nice work.
No drips and it looks very smooth with slight texturing.
Even though the S3 is smooth it's still has a little grip to it.
I liked the S2 textured back cover, as well as the grippy Evo 4G, but you seem to have found a nice diy fix
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Found this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LNOOEO/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
But you can search around for maybe a better price, and read reviews on durability.
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I would say that rubber, silicone, etc. wouldn't affect reception at all.
Metal, aluminum, etc. would though.
Or metallic substances embedded in a substance which otherwise wouldn't affect reception.
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What a steal and you can then use it for other things. Saw some people use it for their bike windscreens.
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Transparent plastic spray. Does this exist? I like how my case looks but would like it to have more grip like other comments here have mentioned. Any help?

Stupifier said:
Transparent plastic spray. Does this exist? I like how my case looks but would like it to have more grip like other comments here have mentioned. Any help?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LNN11G

Awesome idea! Nice to see the DirecTV remote in the background!!!
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did you spray just the outside of the back cover? i'm just a little worried of my battery getting a little hot and having the plasti-dip melt into the back of the phone... no issues so far? it is a great diy idea, and i'm gonna try it on my extended battery cover. i can't find a decent case at a reasonable price and the 6$ for a can of plast-dip is perfect.
BTW, being a NYer, i blow thru the soles of my sneakers. Plasti-dip +shoe goo= almost brand new soles...

You all should just use Rhinoliner like for a truck bed.. Haha.. Plenty of grip then and no peal
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