Can we once unlocked relock the bootloader and remove the bootloader warning from start up? I'm curious cause I do like an option to return to stock if needed for hardware warranty repair and such. This would be vital unless anyone has other info as far as still being able to get hardware repair. Also any info on experiences with bb blacktie service and unlocked bootloader motorolas?
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At least in terms of warranty repair wouldn't it be a moot point? Given you unlock through Motorola directly, surely they'd have it registered in their system and would know regardless....would be shocked if that weren't the case at any rate.
When you unlock it they do state that you void the warranty permanently relocked or not. They won't authorize warranty work on the phone in the event that your modifications are the cause of damage (rough paraphrasing of their fine print).
Plus if you look in fastboot the phone displays a counter showing whether the phone is currently unlocked and has ever been unlocked.
Due to this official method and not some hack to unlock the phone it will be harder to get service in the future.
Of course I have no idea what a sprint store would or wouldn't do if you play dumb with them.
Can't say I have ever used a manufacturers warranty with a phone, always take it to the store or ship it back after getting a refurb through insurance. Personally, if I had to take it in I would clean & pull su, flash a stock boot logo, & play dumb. Always worked in the past. I doubt Motorola shares much info w Sprint.
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Thx guys, I always like to know all my options before I choose the fork in the road I'm gonna take.
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All I did was get the SIM unlock code and unlocked the phone. Will LG deny repair because of this?
No, you will be fine. I promise.
Just to make sure though, you're not rooted, are you? They will check if you're rooted and that may affect whether your repair is considered in warranty or not.
Hey I sent my phone in to lg cause I screwed up on the update and got it back 10 days later. Phone was rooted with custom boot animation
still on. Phone came back fixed and updated. Only thing that sucks is you pay shipping to send it out
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I never had a contract before but I'm thinking about getting an Xperia Z with a 2-year T-Mobile contract, what happens when I root it and flash a custom ROM on it? Will they find out? What happens when they do?
Please let me know
They won't. Except when you send it in for warranty for which you obviously return it to stock so they won't find out.
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lars1216 said:
They won't. Except when you send it in for warranty for which you obviously return it to stock so they won't find out.
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So there's no difference in the data sent back and forth from which they could find out? And once I unlock the bootloader, can I relock it again or something?
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They break down your door in the middle of the night and cart you off to a secret holding facility for interrogation.:laugh:
The absolute worst they can do is tell you that you have no warranty cover for your phone but must keep paying the contract regardless.
gFrenken97 said:
I never had a contract before but I'm thinking about getting an Xperia Z with a 2-year T-Mobile contract, what happens when I root it and flash a custom ROM on it? Will they find out? What happens when they do?
Please let me know
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Nothing will happen. I for one have rooted very single android phone I have owned. If you find something wrong with the software or its not very nice sounding or what ever. Return it to stock and relock the bootloader.
If it won't turn on then don't bother. That happened with my HTC and it went fine.
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In Hungary, the T-Mobile doesn't allow that, but the Vodafone does
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In Hungary, the T-Mobile doesn't allow that, but the Vodafone does
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What do you mean by not allowing, no one allows it but they can only find out when you send your phone to the store ..
Relocking the bootloader would still show as "relocked" status if I'm not mistaken.
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Relocking the bootloader would still show as "relocked" status if I'm not mistaken.
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I don't know and I don't really care honestly, I have a 2 year contract without any warranty so next year i'll just get the hot phone of 2014 so I won't have to deal with this phone for another year.
Note that now under the DMCA, unlocking your phone, whether it is under contract or not, is illegal. Rooting your phone is now, however, since you need to unlock your phone before you can root it...
https://www.eff.org/is-it-illegal-to-unlock-a-phone
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Note that now under the DMCA, unlocking your phone, whether it is under contract or not, is illegal. Rooting your phone is now, however, since you need to unlock your phone before you can root it...
https://www.eff.org/is-it-illegal-to-unlock-a-phone
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I don't care if it's illegal or not i'll still root my phone ...
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My phone is giving me problems, but I am afraid I return my phone I won't be able to unlock my phone since 4.3 bootloader can't be unlock. Has anyone recently return phone and what version of software have you gotten on your phone? I just want to make sure that I can unlock my bootloader.
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My phone is giving me problems, but I am afraid I return my phone I won't be able to unlock my phone since 4.3 bootloader can't be unlock. Has anyone recently return phone and what version of software have you gotten on your phone? I just want to make sure that I can unlock my bootloader.
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I tried to get a replacement through Asurion, and both of the devices they sent me were already updated to 4.3 (along with myriad other issues, such as faulty displays, inability to activate, missing the camera lens, and so on). Though, I did see this earlier today (https://mobile.twitter.com/MobileTechVids/status/454103612721860608) so there may be hope.
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In the U.S. the Motorola warranty coverage ends when you request an unlock code.
I have rooted a couple of previous phones, but in those cases there were exploits available to unlock the bootloaders on those phones so it did not affect the warranty status.
I guess this is a smart way for Motorola to do it - allowing people to easily unlock their bootloaders takes away most of the incentive for finding an exploit.
Still, if the phone develops a hardware problem that exists even after returning the phone to stock - shouldn't that still be covered by the warranty? I guess from Motorola's point of view, the user who unlocked the phone may have messed it up and Motorola shouldn't be responsible.
I bought my phone using a credit card that doubles my warranty up to an extra year so, in theory, I have two years of warranty. I suspect that the majority of phone failures are due to dropping the phone which would never be covered under warranty anyway. Square Trade insurance backs this up, at least for insured phones: "We next drilled down into the two main reported causes of accidents, drops and spills. Unsurprisingly, drops are responsible for most accidents – 77% to be precise"
I have seen threads where people sent money to a "Chinese middleman" in order to get an unlock code but I wonder - how do they know that the guy isn't just requesting the unlock codes from Motorola and violating their warranties at the same time? They wouldn't know unless they made a warranty claim, would they? Is there a way people can check on the Motorola site?
The stock experience on the Moto G is very good as are the updates - I currently have 4.4.3 and am hoping for 4.4.4 soon. And it seems to have been reported that we will even get android L when it comes out. From my forum reading, I get the impression that most people unlock and root their Moto G to be able to run xposed and make small tweaks to their phone. Which did you choose - warranty or root?
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In the U.S. the Motorola warranty coverage ends when you request an unlock code.
I have rooted a couple of previous phones, but in those cases there were exploits available to unlock the bootloaders on those phones so it did not affect the warranty status.
I guess this is a smart way for Motorola to do it - allowing people to easily unlock their bootloaders takes away most of the incentive for finding an exploit.
Still, if the phone develops a hardware problem that exists even after returning the phone to stock - shouldn't that still be covered by the warranty? I guess from Motorola's point of view, the user who unlocked the phone may have messed it up and Motorola shouldn't be responsible.
I bought my phone using a credit card that doubles my warranty up to an extra year so, in theory, I have two years of warranty. I suspect that the majority of phone failures are due to dropping the phone which would never be covered under warranty anyway. Square Trade insurance backs this up, at least for insured phones: "We next drilled down into the two main reported causes of accidents, drops and spills. Unsurprisingly, drops are responsible for most accidents – 77% to be precise"
I have seen threads where people sent money to a "Chinese middleman" in order to get an unlock code but I wonder - how do they know that the guy isn't just requesting the unlock codes from Motorola and violating their warranties at the same time? They wouldn't know unless they made a warranty claim, would they? Is there a way people can check on the Motorola site?
The stock experience on the Moto G is very good as are the updates - I currently have 4.4.3 and am hoping for 4.4.4 soon. And it seems to have been reported that we will even get android L when it comes out. From my forum reading, I get the impression that most people unlock and root their Moto G to be able to run xposed and make small tweaks to their phone. Which did you choose - warranty or root?
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Sir..you may also mention, that once the bootloader is unlocked, there is a permanent code written to the bootloader..and warranty is voided with this method..if one is to "relock" the device..this permanent code remains..
And it probably is possible for Motorola to trace an unlocked device with the IMEI..
Simply put..if one is concerned about warranty..don't unlock until warranty has expired..otherwise..unlock and void the warranty..
To unlock the bootloader of a Developer Edition does NOT void the warranty..
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Sir..you may also mention, that once the bootloader is unlocked, there is a permanent code written to the bootloader..and warranty is voided with this method..if one is to "relock" the device..this permanent code remains..
And it probably is possible for Motorola to trace an unlocked device with the IMEI..
Simply put..if one is concerned about warranty..don't unlock until warranty has expired..otherwise..unlock and void the warranty..
To unlock the bootloader of a Developer Edition does NOT void the warranty..
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Thank you for the clarification. I guess the people who are paying the "Chinese middleman" may still be screwed even if they return the phone to stock and try to get warranty service. And, as I said, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the guy was just doing a free unlock via motorola and charging people for it. Yet, this guy claims that he got a working unlock code for a verizon moto g from him for $45: http://swappa.com/listing/TND932/moto-g-verizon But I agree with you that this method would not preserve the warranty. And, clearly, unlocking your bootloader via motorola will mark the phone's unique identifier as being out of warranty. But not if you're lucky enough to live in Europe as I guess they get better legal rights on warranty than we do!
Unfortunately, there does not yet seem to be a Developer Edition of the Moto G LTE model.
Hence, my survey - how many people chose to give up their warranty in return for root on their Moto G?
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Hence, my survey - how many people chose to give up their warranty in return for root on their Moto G?
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For the moment I've chosen to keep my warranty even if I really want the root for my Moto G LTE.
I just hope that in a few weeks / months there will be a way to root the phone without unlock the bootloader.
Well, I reached the point where I decided to unlock my bootloader and root my phone. The deciding factor for doing so was the too aggressive minfree memory setting after the 4.4.4 update. You notice that when you try switching between a couple of applications, like browser and navigation, that it has killed the other app and restarts it when you switch back to it. Once you have root, you can fix this by adjusting minfree: http://m.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
I also wanted to try out xposed and gravitybox which adds many very nice customization options. It works very nicely and I'm trying out some other xposed modules.
So I ended up not unlocking my bootloader right away, but waited a few months to make sure that the phone had no hardware issues. For me, it was worth the tradeoff to unlock it after that as I felt that the odds of having phone problems that would be covered under the warranty were quite slim. Minfree manager and xposed/gravitybox make the Moto G a much nicer phone for me.
I never had Motorola's warranty as the brand new g I got already had its boot loader unlocked as well as twrp custom recovery which didn't work. Had to root it then use flashify to get a working recovery. When asked what I was supposed to do about my non working recovery they didn't have anything to say.
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I prefer unlocked boot loader and voided warranty. Warranty rules are always so specific and many great areas don't cover repairs anyway. Apart from x posed and all, I am such an addict I flashing ROMs and all, I wouldn't want it any other way. I would be more reluctant on a $900 Samsung or Sony, but if the moto G fails, its much cheaper. I can still get a moto g from cricket for $99 or $129 and a $50 rebate deal is still active
So I dropped my z3 d6603 on the bathroom tile and shattered my screen. Called up Sony us (since I live here), gave them my info and told them my problem and they issued an RMA. Sent in my phone a few weeks ago. Didn't hear anything so I called in to check on my rma. They said they are shipping back phone not fixed because it's an international version and not a US version and has unapproved software (mind you it is stock but with an unlocked boot loader and rooted). I unlocked the bootloader from THEIR website! Anyways its now getting escalated to see what can be done. Anyone else had issues with the RMA process?
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So I dropped my z3 d6603 on the bathroom tile and shattered my screen. Called up Sony us (since I live here), gave them my info and told them my problem and they issued an RMA. Sent in my phone a few weeks ago. Didn't hear anything so I called in to check on my rma. They said they are shipping back phone not fixed because it's an international version and not a US version and has unapproved software (mind you it is stock but with an unlocked boot loader and rooted). I unlocked the bootloader from THEIR website! Anyways its now getting escalated to see what can be done. Anyone else had issues with the RMA process?
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Your bootloader was unlocked so they may turn you down. It has been stated already that by unlocking the bootloader you void the warranty even through the means of their offical software
I wasn't even asking for a warranty claim. I'll pay for the fixed broken screen. A broken screen has nothing to do with the software.
So now I have to wait for them to ship my device back, I relock the boot loader and return to stock, file a new rma, and ship it back to them. This makes a lot of sense.....
It still affects warranty even if you are willing to pay cause it was unlocked. Dumb rule but it is what it is they have warnings about it when you unlock
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It still affects warranty even if you are willing to pay cause it was unlocked. Dumb rule but it is what it is they have warnings about it when you unlock
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It has nothing to do with a warranty claim. It has to do with a damage claim. Anyways Im still waiting on a response back but I think I might of convinced them to go ahead and fix it. It saves them money and me money by just fixing it now rather than shipping it back to me, me making it stock again, and shipping it to and from sony.