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Motorola Possible update on ICS position

I have been checking their tweeter and their page wich is called Android 4.0 ice cream sandwich / the officila motorola blog...... ok the point is that they have been saying that they will soon add more news on ICS support for other devices. Guess What !!!! that page is changing and the previous info is gone, the only remains are the comments. I hope this means they are uploading the new info and support fo the atrix 2 will be confirmed

YAY! Good news!
I wish they said: "Meh... we decided to unlock bootloaders once and for ever"

richardtribes said:
i have benn checking their tweeter and their page wich is called Andoird 4.0 ice cream sandwich / the officila motorola blog...... ok the point is that they have been saying that they will soon add more news on ICs support for other devices. Guess What !!!! that page is changing and the previous info is gone, the only reamins are the comments. I hope this means they are uploading the new info and support fo the atrix 2 will be confirmed
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Just keep checking through cheesecake, to get some "leaked" alpha/beta versions that way... Stop depending on Moto to get you an official anything, look how long it took them to fix all the issues with 2.3.5 when the bionic already had it for several months, and the razr which was released one month after our phone was released with 2.3.7. It is real important to check ALL servers at least once daily, EVERYONE needs to do this, to catch these updates, as they do not stay up very long... once we have that, then lfaber06 and I can work our magic on it, and get us some "stable" ICS leaked ROMs.
Also don't install anything from cheesecake, just post it someplace and let lfaber06 and I know, where we can grab it, and pull it apart.

Okay Jim i will be glad to help, i am new in this android stuff and currently waiting my unlocked atrix 2 as i live in Colombia and need the bands opened. Once i get my baby i´ll gladly help to get some alpha or beta ICS with the cheesecake method.
As I´m a newbie i´ll have to read and instruct myself in android before trying anything in my phone.

richardtribes said:
Okay Jim i will be glad to help, i am new in this android stuff and currently waiting my unlocked atrix 2 as i live in Colombia and need the bands opened. Once i get my baby i´ll gladly help to get some alpha or beta ICS with the cheesecake method.
As I´m a newbie i´ll have to read and instruct myself in android before trying anything in my phone.
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There is a ton of info in here.... I have been one of about 15 or so pioneers of this phone, and one of our first devs in here, so we are all here to help you.
For information on cheesecake, take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
To get familiar with this phone and all the things we can do, and need as well as some n00b things... look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650

Okay i have been reading as i said. its really the A2 that bad without a Custom Rom?, should i flash the custom ROM immediatly or is the stock worth a try?

richardtribes said:
Okay i have been reading as i said. its really the A2 that bad without a Custom Rom?, should i flash the custom ROM immediatly or is the stock worth a try?
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If you're looking for pre-tweaked build.props, overclock, a little bit more customization, and/or debloat, go custom. Nothing wrong with stock though, imo. I have stock 2.3.6 rooted, uninstalled the bloat, flashed a themed systemui, and use GoLauncher. Works fine, great battery life and performance.

richardtribes said:
Okay i have been reading as i said. its really the A2 that bad without a Custom Rom?, should i flash the custom ROM immediatly or is the stock worth a try?
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The current ROMs are all based off of stock right now, so just try out the bone stock for a while and see what you think... since I do so much dev work, I am always working on and testing some new ROM, so I am not a good basis.

How hard is creating a kernel for this device?

So I am fed up with T-Mobile and Samsung not releasing a ics update for this phone. I wan't to try the new features like facelock and android beam ( really helpful). Well can we start from scratch also is there a guide to do that? It would be really awesome if someone posted a link for it.

Well I'm not sure what you are asking but are you saying if we can do a ICS kernel without source? Yes it's possible if we use the s2 source but with heavy modifications to run on our phone. Doubt there is a guide for it anywhere, though if you have an understanding of Linux kernels and a few languages like C, C++ and Java you can help us get there.
Another way we can get cm9 or any ics varient we can modify our current 2.6.35.11+ kernel to make it run cm9.
I suggest or rather think the easiest way is the waiting way because by the time you or I or anyone gets anything close to a working build the source will drop. This would be a good idea if the blaze wasn't getting ICS at all but it is.
So for now lets enjoy GB a little more I got a rom update uploading and dwitherell is also updating his awesome rom
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If helped don't be afraid to hit the thanks button it doesn't bite lol

Okay still love the darknight rom although holo launcher gets somewhat laggy sometimes.. but is there a guide for modifying the kernel to create cm9? any help would be appreciated.

theprogram1 said:
Okay still love the darknight rom although holo launcher gets somewhat laggy sometimes.. but is there a guide for modifying the kernel to create cm9? any help would be appreciated.
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Well i just release build8 and no more holo launcher
As for a guide, there isn't one. There's guides on how to make your own kernel from the source drop and the initramfs from a stock rom but to modify the 2.6.35.11(gb) kernel to work with cm9/ics takes a lot of work and a lot of backporting and unfortunately every kernel is different as every phone is which is why no guide is ever accurate. Honestly, the best way to contribute is learn a few languages and start learning slowly. Unless, of course, you have knowledge on linux kernels then that'd be awesome
Either way i started a channel on irc #teamfah-q. That is where team fah-q(merwin, flyers00, thomas.raines, and myself) hangs out and shares ideas with each other and talk about changes and we do drop leaks to our builds and mods and the such. Join us on the channel.

theprogram1 said:
So I am fed up with T-Mobile and Samsung not releasing a ics update for this phone. I wan't to try the new features like facelock and android beam ( really helpful). Well can we start from scratch also is there a guide to do that? It would be really awesome if someone posted a link for it.
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I tried exactly this once... and let me tell you, it's REALLY difficult. I started with a T989 kernel and after months of work, still had a non-booting kernel.
I'm starting again, but moving much slower since I have an S3 now. I'm also trying to get a "console" on the device so I can see if the thing is actually booting at all.
Joy.
Good luck if you want to start in on this, I wish you the best

Best/Most Stable Rom?

Well I'm looking to root my wife's Droid Charge, I only have experience in rooting HTC phones, So I'm going to have another learning curve about rooting a Samsung phone. something about odin software
Im wondering if there are any dev's currently working on/tweaking there roms for this phone, or is the development of this phone is dead.
I would like to flash a rom that she can use as a DD. Has anyone ported a ICS rom to this phone where everything works as it should? Link would be cool.
Any tips or links to the latest rooting method for this would would be great. She did take all/any ota updates Verizon has sent out.
What a huge difference between her Droid Charge and my old Droid Incredible. Big mistake thinking the Droid line would not put out a product that was inferior to there older Droid Inc.
So I want to make the best of a disappointing situation. I know some Dev's can turn a turd into a golden nugget, so my fingers are crossed that there is a ROM out there that will make this phone work like It should have out of the box.
Thanks for any input/links you may have to help

No working ICS, no AOSP. The RIL is still not cracked on this phone after a year and a half. Tweaked is really the only game in town for roms. Not that it's a bad game...it's a very good rom, and customizable to an almost AOKP level.
Based on your sig, you'll have no issues rooting. It's way easier than the Rezound...the bootloader is completely unlocked and in the clear out of the box. It's literally just flash and go here. I'll try to scare up a step by step guide for you.

Hitch_Itch said:
Well I'm looking to root my wife's Droid Charge, I only have experience in rooting HTC phones, So I'm going to have another learning curve about rooting a Samsung phone. something about odin software
Im wondering if there are any dev's currently working on/tweaking there roms for this phone, or is the development of this phone is dead.
I would like to flash a rom that she can use as a DD. Has anyone ported a ICS rom to this phone where everything works as it should? Link would be cool.
Any tips or links to the latest rooting method for this would would be great. She did take all/any ota updates Verizon has sent out.
What a huge difference between her Droid Charge and my old Droid Incredible. Big mistake thinking the Droid line would not put out a product that was inferior to there older Droid Inc.
So I want to make the best of a disappointing situation. I know some Dev's can turn a turd into a golden nugget, so my fingers are crossed that there is a ROM out there that will make this phone work like It should have out of the box.
Thanks for any input/links you may have to help
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look in the development section - there's only one custom ROM for FP5 (Tweaked 3.0), but it is really awesome! no fully working ICS (we doubt the charge will ever get it). however, there are some really neat themes (ICS, JB, etc styles) available - look in the themes section.
this device is really easy to root, and nearly impossible to brick.

shrike1978 said:
No working ICS, no AOSP. The RIL is still not cracked on this phone after a year and a half. Tweaked is really the only game in town for roms. Not that it's a bad game...it's a very good rom, and customizable to an almost AOKP level.
Based on your sig, you'll have no issues rooting. It's way easier than the Rezound...the bootloader is completely unlocked and in the clear out of the box. It's literally just flash and go here. I'll try to scare up a step by step guide for you.
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Thanks Shrike!
That would be sweet. Thats why I love XDA, no matter what forum you are in theres always someone there to help

This is older, but it's a good step-by-step on Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
You'll only need to flash recovery in Odin...everything else can be done from recovery. Here's the newest recovery you'll need to flash in Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
The only other really important thing to know that may not be in those threads is that the stock rom overwrites recovery with stock on every boot. The easiest way around that is to just have the rom on your SD card before you start, then flash the recovery and boot straight into recovery (with VolUp+Home+Power) without booting the phone normally. When you flash Tweaked, it will stop the automatic recovery installation so CWM will stay.

Good Deal, Thanks Dude. I now have a little project for tonight or tomorrow:good:

[Q] SGS4G

Okay, Let me start by saying two things. Yes I'm new to this. And yes I looked in the forums for something similar.
Now, basically I just recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S 4G. It is Model SGH-T959V, Firmware 2.2.1, Baseband T959VUVKB5, Build FROYO.VUVKB5. There are a few things I was wanting to ask the community.
Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
Secondly, I've been looking into getting some custom roms. So far the only things I have found haven't been comprehensible. They either require a higher firmware version, have no explanation as to what the rom does, or have highly technical steps which are way beyond me. Does anyone have any recommendations as to what would be some good roms? What they do? And the benefits of using them?
If this has all been discussed somewhere else and have just missed it, please feel free to link to the thread and close this one.

ok i see you are new to the concept of flashing and rooting ....etc) you should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
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hope i helped if i did plz click thanks:good::good::good::good::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
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First, you should start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716 Second here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V now you have all the source of instructions and guides to follow all you have to do is take some time to read and search. and now good luck to you and your phone..

Well, as for the Odin thing a lot of people have said it can brick your device, and that's not something wanna do.
As for the other guides, I started it, I got to the point where I'm updated to GB 2.3.6. The rest of the stuff didnt say what it was for, so I was unsure as whether or not to proceed. Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
The last one didn't seem to have anything really useful, but I didnt look at every last thing.
And what about useful ROMs? I've looked around online and a lot people recommend Cyanogenmod, although no one has said what it does. I looked at the steps and it seemed over complicated to install for someone new to this stuff.

Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
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And what about useful ROMs?
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In this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V it will guide you to rest of Custom rom's and kernel's that you must need to use in order to
start flashing custom rom and kernels. the rest is a guide which you can use and it will save you'r time from looking around.. The only rom which is very much stable to our phone are
GB and ICS while Cyanogenmod 10/10.1 are still in Alpha and beta stage..

Yeah, I saw that as I looked through it more. Just a lot of it is way over my head so it's gonna take me a while to get to it

That's right, you will never get lost by following that guide because everything you need to know are already in there.. just take some time to read and you
will be enlightened as you go on the process..

Well, my biggest problem is I keep looking for useful and cool ROMs, but haven't found any so far. So at the moment I can justify to myself to go through all those things just to not have anything to put on it. So far I like the GB look and feel much better than FROYO. I've found a few minor apps here and there, but so far nothing that has required flashing.

Or you can check some of the great ICS rom's we have, here i am going to provide some links of it for you.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1733097
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034855
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730954
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886035
Or some goodness of GB
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669364
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598561
This are just few of the rom's we have that i personally try and use it by myself, but you can have as much as you like and you can take a look at the development section and hand pick some
of the great rom's courtesy of our great dev's..

Cool, I'll check out those GB ones. Thanx

Good luck and make sure to follow as per OP's instruction of flashing the respective rom's to avoid further problem, u won't get lost as every instructions are provided
for the ease of use and flashing.. and take some time to each and every rom you flash so that you can personally experience the goodness and you can make a choice which rom you think it's best for you..

[Q] Will any damage happen to the phone if we use the unofficial roms ??

Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )

sohailazam said:
Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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It is pretty safe. If you are worried, wait for other people to try it first

I had a Gnex for two years, running mostly AOKP. You can trust all of the recognized developers here at XDA. If you don't want to risk it, ALWAYS make an nandroid backup.

About the only time you may damage a device is by installing a ROM for a different device. As @justmpm mentioned, if you're having doubts about a particular ROM wait for someone else to post their findings to see then if you wish to try it or not.
Take your time and READ, READ, READ... That is the biggest mistake made around here. People see something they want and just jump in to it without doing any research or doing minimal research. There's in nothing wrong with being cautious.

make a nice backup and go on the safe side!

Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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Hi there.
Yes it is safe as long as
1- You make complete backup
2- Follow proper guide to root and install your rom
3- If you are rookie. Try those roms that have already been tested and running smoothly by others.
Hope that will help you out

Of course bad things could happen also don't forget those same problems could occur with a factory OTA update.
Besides that you could end up with features on your device either gone or broken which I imagine could also happen with a factory rom.
None of them are 100% perfect and safe it is just something you have to accept and take measures before hand to be sure you have backups and/or find knowledge you need to bring your device back from the dead.
These are also all reasons NO ONE should EVER blindly start flashing things to their device without doing some reasearch which is where most problems come from.
Just inform yourself about what you are doing and a lot of things are pretty safe to do or try.
This is about the best advice that could be given I just realized I kinda took the long way around of saying mostly the same thing haha.
shinobisoft said:
Take your time and READ, READ, READ... That is the biggest mistake made around here. People see something they want and just jump in to it without doing any research or doing minimal research. There's in nothing wrong with being cautious.
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Well , If you flash a compatible ROM with your device correctly , nothing will go wrong !
but always take a nandroid backup just in case
the things that can harm your phone most of the time are just kernel related just don't overclock the CPU too much and do your best to avoid kernel tweaks
and every ROM on here has a list of bugs ! so using a custom ROM is totally safe BUT you need to check the bugs list before

sohailazam said:
Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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worst thing that could happed is you brick your device if that happens just find the ruu for your device and itll restore it to factory settings

justmpm said:
It is pretty safe. If you are worried, wait for other people to try it first
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That i alwsys do , & Thanks fro the advice :laugh:

shinobisoft said:
About the only time you may damage a device is by installing a ROM for a different device. As @justmpm mentioned, if you're having doubts about a particular ROM wait for someone else to post their findings to see then if you wish to try it or not.
Take your time and READ, READ, READ... That is the biggest mistake made around here. People see something they want and just jump in to it without doing any research or doing minimal research. There's in nothing wrong with being cautious.
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Ty fr the advice Ill keep this in mind , can u suggest me a 4.4 stable rom ?

NubzX said:
Of course bad things could happen also don't forget those same problems could occur with a factory OTA update.
Besides that you could end up with features on your device either gone or broken which I imagine could also happen with a factory rom.
None of them are 100% perfect and safe it is just something you have to accept and take measures before hand to be sure you have backups and/or find knowledge you need to bring your device back from the dead.
These are also all reasons NO ONE should EVER blindly start flashing things to their device without doing some reasearch which is where most problems come from.
Just inform yourself about what you are doing and a lot of things are pretty safe to do or try.
This is about the best advice that could be given I just realized I kinda took the long way around of saying mostly the same thing haha.
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you scared me , but thanks for the advice , can u sugg me a 4.4 stable rom ?

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sohailazam said:
Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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No, there's no problem if you flash it properly.....

I have bricked my Gionee GN 100 with a custom rom from another brand but it was the same model. So, take extreme care. I'm also not sure how to fix it. I have some backups but I used only cat. Screen is totally black the phone is technically dead.
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sohailazam said:
you scared me , but thanks for the advice , can u sugg me a 4.4 stable rom ?
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Sorry to scare you just giving you realistic info.
Basically flash nothing without researching what you are doing is the biggest point to be taken.

Pretty much what's already been said about making sure the rom is for your specific advice. Usually it's just a soft brick if you flash the wrong rom. The real damage comes using custom kernels the wrong way. i.e. overclocking the cpu/gpu too much. That can cause permanent hardware failure...

I hard briocked my galaxy s3 and had to send it out to to be Jtaged. It was my bad though, just be careful and double check your files prior to flashing. Have ODIN on your computer and be ready to reflash as stock image if you mess somehting up too

I have messed up flashing loads of times and even when I thought my phone(s) was gone for good, I always found a way to bring it back...even if it takes a few hours/days haha...

Casey707 said:
I hard briocked my galaxy s3 and had to send it out to to be Jtaged. It was my bad though, just be careful and double check your files prior to flashing. Have ODIN on your computer and be ready to reflash as stock image if you mess somehting up too
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Odin doesn't work for all devices. Some OMAP devices like Galaxy Tab, your S3, and a few others.
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you will be fine as long as you read and follow directions exactly as they are posted. There is always a possibility damage, but if you are careful, you will be fine.