I've been using the CM9 ROM and like it so far, but as one who likes to try stuff, what is the best way to go to a new ROM but easily be able to go back to the this one and the ways it's all setup?
If I do a full backup in recovery, can I then do all the wipes, install a new ROM, try it out, if I don't like it, go back to recovery, do all the wipes, then restore my backup?
If for some reason something gets boinked, I can always use 1 click to go back to GB stock with recovery and reinstall CW9, then recover my backup to get all my stuff back? Providing I don't wipe my SD card or use a different card, does a backup in recovery backup everything, like doing an image of a PC at a specific moment in time?
Yes, backups from recovery will restore the phone. You can backup your microSD to a computer as well. I'd strongly recommend investing the few dollars in Titanium Backup Pro as well. That way you have app/data backups every few days.
Heimdall will let you flash a known-good kernel/recovery pair without having to go back to stock. That is the fastest and most reliable.
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Just don't format sdcard your all set to go, but remember to format/wipe system every time you flash an ics rom. I see the best performance of the rom when doing that
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I hit the back up rom button in rom manager and it went to the htc screen. Its the screen that you see when you first turn on the phone. Its still on that screen for 10 mins now should I pull the battery or wait another 10 min? I have a thunderbolt btw. any advice greatly appreciated. thx
Did you flash ClockwordMod Recovery through ROM Manager before trying to make a backup? Pull the battery and reboot. If you didn't flash CWM then you need to do that. It's the first option at the top of the menu in ROM Manager.
I just had this happen couple days ago. Seems like Recovery went wonky. Pull battery & when you boot get back into Rom Manager > Menu > Clear Download Cache > Then go into Menu > Setting > Check Erase Recovery ... Hit Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it will download and reinstall recovery.
I think a battery pull is in order. Did you go to backup and restore > backup? I have never had an issue when it comes to backing up my current rom/setup in cwm so I dont know what the issue could be.
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I just had this happen couple days ago. Seems like Recovery went wonky. Pull battery & when you boot get back into Rom Manager > Menu > Clear Download Cache > Then go into Menu > Setting > Check Erase Recovery ... Hit Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it will download and reinstall recovery.
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I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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I would definitely update to the latest version of ROM Manager and flash the latest recovery (should be 3.0.2.5 if it's not already.) There were issues with the previous version of CWR.
Absolutely update to latest version of Rom Manager then certainly try to run a backup.
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I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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Making a backup isn't going to damage the phone. You should always make a backup before flashing anything (ROMs, themes, kernels, radios). That way you have something stable to revert to incase what you flash ****s up your phone.
Your backups will be on the SD card under clockworkmod/backup.
Update ROM Manager, flash CWM and try making a backup.
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I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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if you click manage and restore backups and select "restore" it should be there. If not, you can back up your current rom through Recovery, think it says "backup current" or similar.
Another option to try is a full uninstall. Then redownload Rom Manager.
Ok I updated to the latest version and backing up my rom right now. Its seems to be working. Thanks everyone for your help. I'm a noob at this. What is the difference if I back up with the app titanium backup vs rom manager? It seems everybody that rooted their phone have these apps. I always thought they both have similar functions.
I had the same problem. I just turned off fastboot and everything worked fine.
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Use Clockwork... ROM Mangler always causes issue. What's true in life?? Cut out the middle man and go straight to the source. Uninstall Rom Mangler/Download Quickboot/Get your ROMS from here and leave the heavy work to Clockwork. My opinion.
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... i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups.
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Not sure what to say about it not being under "Manage and Restore Backups," but it should be on your SD card under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
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What is the difference if I back up with the app titanium backup vs rom manager? It seems everybody that rooted their phone have these apps. I always thought they both have similar functions.
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Titanium Backup can back up all of your apps, data, and settings, but not your ROM (operating system), so TB can restore all of that stuff regardless of the ROM you're using (for the most part).
ROM Manager/ClockworkMod backups (aka Nandroid backups) take a full image of your phone (apps, data, settings, ROM, messages, etc) in one simple operation, so that when you restore that backup, your phone will be ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the way it was when you took the backup.
Personally, I do a nandroid backup right before flashing a new ROM, and again after I get all of my settings the way I like them. That way, I have a restore point in case I completely eff up my phone. I do a Titanium Backup of my apps and settings right before switching to a different ROM (anytime that I have to clear the phone's cache for a ROM install), so that once the new ROM is installed, I can get my phone back up and running the way I like it faster. So, yes, they do a lot of the same things, but have very different uses. Hopefully that made sense! It did in my head, but that doesn't always translate well, lol!
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Not sure what to say about it not being under "Manage and Restore Backups," but it should be on your SD card under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
Titanium Backup can back up all of your apps, data, and settings, but not your ROM (operating system), so TB can restore all of that stuff regardless of the ROM you're using (for the most part).
ROM Manager/ClockworkMod backups (aka Nandroid backups) take a full image of your phone (apps, data, settings, ROM, messages, etc) in one simple operation, so that when you restore that backup, your phone will be ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the way it was when you took the backup.
Personally, I do a nandroid backup right before flashing a new ROM, and again after I get all of my settings the way I like them. That way, I have a restore point in case I completely eff up my phone. I do a Titanium Backup of my apps and settings right before switching to a different ROM (anytime that I have to clear the phone's cache for a ROM install), so that once the new ROM is installed, I can get my phone back up and running the way I like it faster. So, yes, they do a lot of the same things, but have very different uses. Hopefully that made sense! It did in my head, but that doesn't always translate well, lol!
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This makes alot of sense. Oh the reason the backup file is not on the sdcard was the first backup was never backup. I just assumed it backup when I hit "backup current rom" Thank god I didn't flash my rom. If something went wrong I have nothing to go back to. Thanks for the info it was very helpful.
Hi. I've been using a ROM for the last little while (SlimICS), and I like it, more or less. There's a feature in another ROM (ParanoidAndroid, per-app density), that I'd really like to try out, but this ROM also has a lot of features I don't want (tablet mode) and doubt I would like. I use TWRP as my recovery...if I use TWRP to make a backup of System, Data, Boot, Recovery, .android_secure, and EFS, will I be able to flash this other ROM, then restore the backup to go back to my old ROM after I play with the new one a bit? Will the backup of these items bring me back to exactly how it was before, if I do a Wipe Cache/Dalvik Cache/Factory Reset?
Sorry if these questions are answered elsewhere, I'm just trying to make sure that my limited understanding of all this isn't incorrect, in my specific situation.
If you make a backup through recovery, when you restore, it'll be exactly where you left off, settings and all, when you shut the phone down.
When backing up in Recovery, you are backing up the OS and apps. This is called a nandroid. This does not backup anything on the sdcard.
Yesterday, I flashed a different kernel version on my NS. Before flashing, I did a nandroid backup using Reovery. Unfortunately, the kernel failed to load properly and I was stuck in a boot loop. I restored my backup I have done previously, and my phone was back where it was, few minutes before. It is very easy to do and backups/restores and verified using MD5 checksum.
Keep in mind that some apps put stuff on the sdcard. So if you flash your phone to a new ROM, upgrade apps and then go back to another ROM, it is possible that some apps won't work anymore. I've never seen this happen but this is a possibility.
I am about to flash my 1st ROM on my S3 and I had made a nandroid of my phone a cpl months ago when it was running great, I was copying that nandroid to my PC prior to flashing the new ROM and notice it is quite small, about 21MB. Is that the complete nandroid or is it in the "blobs"? I have 3300 folders in my blobs directory consisting of 7000 files and it is 3.27GB.
Do I need to backup that blobs folder and carry it everywhere the "nandroid" backup goes?
Lastly, if I flash TWRP will it overwrite CWM and does TWRP make reliable nandroids?
Thanks
the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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Thanks, I have 6.0.1.2, does the 6.0.1 you reference NOT have blobs?
TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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Sounds like a perfect plan, I'll give it a go.
You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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No I did not realize that. When I was frustrated with CWM and was looking for a way to get rid of blobs, I couldnt find any info about this. Too late I'm afraid, no turning back from TWRP for me.
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You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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yes i know, but i like the blobs folder because backing up/ restoring is so much faster...its nice for bouncing back and forth between roms.
What the Blob files do is they keep copies individually of everything the nandroid backs up.... and when you go to do another backup it will read both blobs and current setup to see what, if anything is the same. Then it will only back up the differences and make reference to all the data that is the same.
And I dunno yet if I like the blob system better than the old way or not yet. Usually I only keep nandroids of the latest version of different ROMs.
Which is best for Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro)
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TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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Use Safestrap on Droid Razr for 2+ years ,and loved it! the ability to immediately revert to Stock saved me many times while learning the ropes about roms, rooting, and flashing. I just got my hands on an old but new Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Toro). Owner installed KitKat Shiny Rom for GNex, via CWM Touch, but is now redeployed and difficult to reach UGH! So I have no way of knowing "what's next?" Rom works well, but I must say that Cm10.2 and CM10.3 were more inclusive than this AOSP version of pure Kitkat. But, is slim and sleek, and I want to get used to it, but I want to blow it up forst and start from scratch.
With my Raxr, I performed every step so I am familiar with installing TWRP and Safestrap for Razr, but have not tried it on a GNex? Can u advise if u have? Should I go from newest CMW to TWEP. The main reason I like TWRp is the ability too boot to stock if issues with Rom appear, ability to create "nandroid" backup, the ability to install several Roms on one system.
So, do ya think it's safe? Worthwhile? Thanks!
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I have a couple of questions, been digging around xda and the web and found some conflicting answers...
1) Does a Nandroid backup also back up the kernel? I'm thinking about dabbling with some custom kernels, but don't want to potentially mess things up as well as have an easy way back to the stock kernel if I don't like the custom one for one reason or another.
2) What would happen if I made a Nandroid backup from recovery, did a full wipe (/data, /system, /sdcard, caches), rebooted then restored from the Nandroid backup?
I'm still pretty new to all this but I've done some reading and a wee bit of flashing & rooting on Nexus devices and the HP Touchpad. I also have an old TF101 that I'd really like to tinker with as well.
Thanks!
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Hi
I have a couple of questions, been digging around xda and the web and found some conflicting answers...
1) Does a Nandroid backup also back up the kernel? I'm thinking about dabbling with some custom kernels, but don't want to potentially mess things up as well as have an easy way back to the stock kernel if I don't like the custom one for one reason or another.
2) What would happen if I made a Nandroid backup from recovery, did a full wipe (/data, /system, /sdcard, caches), rebooted then restored from the Nandroid backup?
I'm still pretty new to all this but I've done some reading and a wee bit of flashing & rooting on Nexus devices and the HP Touchpad. I also have an old TF101 that I'd really like to tinker with as well.
Thanks!
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I don't know much about kernel but I do know that Nandroid backup backups everything exactly where the phone is.
That means if you do factory reset and restore Nandroid backup it will restore everything from the day you made the Nandroid backup.
I hope it clarifies everything.
Let me answer your questions.
1. When you do a nandroid backup, it backs up everything. Including the kernel.
2. If you nandroid backup, factory reset your device then restore your nandroid backup. Your device will return to the same state you had it previously. You will have all your content, files and settings. However if you do a backup, then factory reset and reboot, your device will be wiped of everything but it will boot up. As if the device was just turned in upon purchase. Also note, if you do a backup, then wipe your device (factory reset) you will not lose your backup.
Just note, if you ever flash a ROM, even if the developer states there is no issues. MAKE A BACKUP, sometimes things go wrong.
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Thanks for the quick replies!
I was a bit confused about 2) because I read somewhere that if you make a nandroid backup of a stock ROM, then install a custom ROM (non-Stock based ie CM, PA or OmniROM) you must flash the stock ROM again before you can restore the nandroid backup, or else restoring the nandroid backup will not work. Is this true?
Consider the following example, say I:
-flash TWRP on my device and root
-make nandroid of stock, rooted ROM
-wipe /data, /system, /sdcard and caches and reboot back into recovery
-ADB push a non-stock custom ROM .zip file and flash the custom ROM
-decide I want to return to stock, rooted ROM after a while
-Boot into TWRP, then wipe /data, /system, /sdcard and caches and reboot back into recovery
-ADB push my original stock, rooted nandroid backup to /sdcard while in reocvery
-restore nandroid backup
What would be the outcome of the above example? I'm very curious...but I'd like some advice before attempting something like this myself as I'm still kinda new to all this
BTW I'm now comfortable flashing back to stock using fastboot and the google facotry image to restore a Nexus device so I now know how to do this in case things go south. I'm just curious if this would work on a device where returning to a full stock state isn't so easy.
No you don't need to install anything to get back to the previous state. So if you had a stock rooted ROM, then backed it up. But you decided to flash, let's say. Cyanogenmod but you wished to return back to stock, you don't need to flash stock ROM, all you have to do is just wipe data and restore your backup.
And for the example.
The outcome would be, you would be resulted with a stock, rooted rom.
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Thanks again, krishneelg3 for the quick reply. Been wondering about this for a while.
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I'm considering trying out a different ROM on my T-Mobile Galaxy S2. I've done quite a bit of modifications to my stock 4.1 ROM.
I made a complete backup of my phone using TWRP recovery (both system & data backed up).
Now, if i decide that after trying someother ROMS, i decide to revert back to the stock ROM i was using, can i just restore my backup with TWRP Recovery and all my settings, apps, screens, etc. everying will be restored just like it was before i put another ROM on?
I've been very hesitant to try this for fear of needing to reconfigure everything again.
I assume everythig restores as original but i need confirmation.
Thanks.
James
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I'm considering trying out a different ROM on my T-Mobile Galaxy S2. I've done quite a bit of modifications to my stock 4.1 ROM.
I made a complete backup of my phone using TWRP recovery (both system & data backed up).
Now, if i decide that after trying someother ROMS, i decide to revert back to the stock ROM i was using, can i just restore my backup with TWRP Recovery and all my settings, apps, screens, etc. everying will be restored just like it was before i put another ROM on?
I've been very hesitant to try this for fear of needing to reconfigure everything again.
I assume everythig restores as original but i need confirmation.
Thanks.
James
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Yes, it does....if you do a full backup...
And by the way, questions belong in the Q and A section....cheers!