I want ask experts around here if there is really a chance of windows 8 being installed in our TF300T in the future? a month from now windows 8 will be out but I have no clue if it will be available for TF300T. I'm really pissed in looking for a powerpoint alternative that can create "quality" presentations in android. If it is really a big NO then I might opt for an upcoming windows 8 tablet which I don't want to do as I'm enjoying my TF300T now except for the presentation part which I badly need for work. Thanks!
The big issue, or one of the big issues, is it would pirating windows 8.
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No it wouldn't it would just be renovating just like Apple.
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windose? that would be terrible to ruin such a nice tablet.
Wouldn't Ubuntu(Linux) be easyier to port?
I don't know much about Ubuntu but I think there you could also get styles and of ubuntu you could get the license easier (if there is one, I'm not sure...)
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I want ask experts around here if there is really a chance of windows 8 being installed in our TF300T in the future? a month from now windows 8 will be out but I have no clue if it will be available for TF300T. I'm really pissed in looking for a powerpoint alternative that can create "quality" presentations in android. If it is really a big NO then I might opt for an upcoming windows 8 tablet which I don't want to do as I'm enjoying my TF300T now except for the presentation part which I badly need for work. Thanks!
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Why dont you just remote desktop to a home PC using splashtop 2, OR buy a subcription to OnLive Desktop (if you are the US). It gives you a full windows environment for a set monthly fee.
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Why dont you just remote desktop to a home PC using splashtop 2, OR buy a subcription to OnLive Desktop (if you are the US). It gives you a full windows environment for a set monthly fee.
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unfortnately i'm from the philippines and theres no app similar to onlive desktop that is available in here. My PC at home is being used by my wife so I can't make use of the remote desktop as well.
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unfortnately i'm from the philippines and theres no app similar to onlive desktop that is available in here. My PC at home is being used by my wife so I can't make use of the remote desktop as well.
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You can download the app from my dropbox here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uscnxvtf320ct2t/com.onlive.desktop-104621.apk
You may need to go to the onlive site to make an account first, or if you have an account for the onlive gaming app, you can also use that.
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I love windows 8 *_* The tf300 has the tegra 3 cpu... And w8 rtm is based on this cpu... it's impossible to see it on tf300?
I haven't much knowledge in this topic, but I'm guessing the bootloader locking by Microsoft will be the main issue to work against for an android/Windows 8 RT dual booting tablet.
Experiment!!!
By this time I already have a Zenbook Prime running W8.
As all of us know there is special version of the OS for ARM processors called Windows 8 RTM.
The transformer has a dock station which has USB 2.0. So in theory it is possible to load from USB-drive BUT
I don't know if the transformer's motherboard has BIOS or smth else.
I'm gonna have an experiment and give u the results
And ofcourse if u know smth else, please share it:good:
That would need to made a complete new bootloader for our device, and we don't have any sources of it and on JB we can not flash any custom bootloader because it is signed by ASUS, so just a dream, forget about this idea.
And the storage is sooo small for W8
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The EEE Transformer is the pick for me i think, have just bought an ipad2 a few weeks back and it sucks (no jailbreak = no customization) [No offence Apple lovers]
Tho i would love to have a Windows7 tablet with the EEE's AWSOME dock, SD Reader, USB ect ect, but also run android on it. will it be possible to dual-boot the two OS' ?
Not officially off course but eventually, is it possible for devs to port over win7 ?
might be a silly question but i have to know before i go purshasing one..
Nico
No. windows seven doesnt.run on arm hardware. Windows 8 might. But no one.knows when that is being released. But to answer ur question. No though you can remotly connect to a pc
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Definitely not possible currently, as nobody has access to a Windows 7 build compiled for ARM processors, at least other than Microsoft themselves and perhaps a few outside people doing testing for them...
Eventually, an ARM build of Win7 or a future Win release (depends whom you ask) is on the cards (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/us-dealtalk-intel-idUSTRE73K7ZZ20110421 "Microsoft's plans to make future versions of Windows 7 compatible with ARM is another reason why Intel needs to move faster to get into Microsoft devices, Shah said"), but I'd guess you won't be able to buy it retail, and even if you can, whether or not you can install it depends on a lot more than just whether the processor architecture is right.
I'd give this a chance of "slim to none".
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The EEE Transformer is the pick for me i think, have just bought an ipad2 a few weeks back and it sucks (no jailbreak = no customization) [No offence Apple lovers]
Tho i would love to have a Windows7 tablet with the EEE's AWSOME dock, SD Reader, USB ect ect, but also run android on it. will it be possible to dual-boot the two OS' ?
Not officially off course but eventually, is it possible for devs to port over win7 ?
might be a silly question but i have to know before i go purshasing one..
Nico
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Search? It's been answered many times before.
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...and it's been answered twice before your post, as well.
Your best alternative to a Windows 7-running tablet similar to the transformer would be the Acer Iconia W500, which is similar to the A500 except for the fact that it runs windows. It will also have a keyboard dock accessory, although i personally prefer the ASUS offering
Rumor has it that the Eee Pad Slider (transformer with a slide out keyboard buit into the back) will have both android (ARM) and windows 7 (AMD fusion I believe) based models.
Hello!
I want to buy a tablet for use in school instead of my notebook.
I really love Android Honeycomb but I have some problems here and there...
I will tell you something about what i need and want. I hope some of you can make some good suggestions.
I looked around a bit and three devices were generally suitable... The problem is I don'T know what to take... Win or Android...
The three devices:
-Acer Iconia A500 (or A501)
-Acer Iconia W500 (or W501)
-Asus Eee Pad Transformer TF101
Perfect fo me would be to have a dual-booting tablet with Win7 and Honeycomb.
I want to have an easy to handle Tablet. Means I do never want to have a real HArd Disk. Thats why most Windows Tablets are not possible for me.
SSD or Flash / NAND storage is an important criteria.
Next I want my pad to be lightweight meaning I preferr ARM-Platforms as they have much less Hardware. Especially the Fan in x86-HW is annoying in my eyes.
But I need the Tablet for basicly five things:
-Presentations: Animated Presentations like in PowerPoint (That's a Contra Android I think)
-Text (Word or similar - Okay Eee Pad has an office solution)
-Table Calculation (low weight not so important)
-Software engineering (Which is a big Pro for Windows as I don't know apps for Android doing that.
-Gaming: Playing Minigames whan I'm off... Well thats a point where I like Android
And some point for me is the battery time... Unformtunately x86-Hardware is much power consuming in opptsite to ARM.
I'd love to have a device which is able to boot both systems but unfortunately honeycomb is not ported to x86 yet
Well I have a windows server so I could probably use terminal sessions for programming as a workaround
What do you think?
Or would you suggest me another Tablet else than the ones listed above?
Do you believe it will be possible to install Windows 8 onto Eee Pad Transformer?
Probably even DualBoot?
For school purposes, I think a Windows tablet would be your best bet. You just can't get all of the widely used/ popular business features in Android. Plus you don't wanna get distracted during class
I would have to Say Windows if it for school, but then again look into Android with Word power, or use of School related Apps, for which Android I think is perfect because of the use of many many different Apps to help with whatever situation you're in.
I would think Android would be a much better tablet experience than Windows.
Excluding the possibility of Windows 8.
I would like to point out Bluestacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/
Wait a few months, and a dual-booting tablet will be possible
In the meantime, have you used windows 7 with a touchscreen? IMHO, it kinda sucks.
hahah ,very thanks
Well Windows 7 on touchscreen is possible and it is quite usable. I tried one out (Ambiance AT-something)
But I really love Android as I already stated. And it is better in tiouchscreen-use of course.
The school I mean is not a regular school but it is a school wehre you go if you learn a job (don't know the english word for it). I'm learning an IT-Specialist Job so thats not any problem
The question is while looking on each parameter what would be the best choice for me?
None is suitable 100% I guess this will end up in a 45-55 percent decision...
As I you said generally Windows has much more "known" capabilities e.g. MS Office but on the other hand android is much better while talkting from tablets... It is more efficient light-weight (focussing on hardware specs) and when I focus on travelluign I would like to have android as it has more battery lifetime and at the same time the games are better (You have to remember that most windows games are too hardware-hungry to run on a tablet and if they do you have battery times around two hours? )
For my purposes the polaris office Word equivalent is enough.
The presentation thing is okay for small presentations. for bigger ones I'd have to use windows or wait until some software comes out (which will happen I think)
I did not try table caluclation on polaris office yet...
A big plus-point for windows is programming... IS there any software out for android which supports that? I don't think so.
But therefore I could use my server as I already said.
A big plus for android is portabliity and the in my oppinion better games for entertaiment.
Besides the Transformers Screen is awsome in comparison to the Acer...
The transformer does have a nice screen. It's a quite capable tablet, I liked the hardware much more than the Acer. Honeycomb just isnt quite there yet. If It has to work and be easy, go Windows. If it has to be fun go Android
I wouldn't buy any android tablet at the present date, especially if i don't wanna use it mainly as a toy...android is not mature yet, it still has a lot of glitches to be ironed out, on a tablet they can become even more annoying.
It'S exactly what my problem is^^ I want fun but also be able to do my work.
But I don't mind having it a bit more complicated then.
I would instantly say I take a windows thing and use android-x86 ginger as dualboot... But I dislike the x86-Arch-Hardware in a Tablet.
Tablet android 100%
There is already a tablet with dual booting os i.e. android n windows....
here is the link..
rajivshahi said:
There is already a tablet with dual booting os i.e. android n windows....
here is the link..
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Friend I am really sceptic when I see a Dual-Booting Tablet, looking like an ipad coming from Hong Kong and haveing Win7 ULTIMATE on it.
Next there is another doing this from Viewsonic. But installing Android 2.2 or 2.3 on an x86 platform is not the problem...
Honeycomb is not possible unfortunately - YET I know TegaTech is workign on it and it is running. Just google not permitting the release yet.
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Can you describe why?
Going off what you've said you need it for, and that you don't mind how W7 works on a tablet, I'd say go that route, and install bluestacks when it comes out to get your android games.
Coding inside android is not something I've ever heard about, I know you mentioned it, but I don't know how important it is to you.
If battery life is really important, however, I'd recommended the Asus transformer - massive battery life with the dock, and works great as a netbook or a tablet. Dunno how Google docs or similar works on it as an office suite, but its definitely an option.
Thanks mtmerrick
Your post is exactly what I think.
Win7 is good in software and Transformer in Hardware...
If Transformer 2 was out now I would have bought it... Do you think if I buy TF now I will be able to install WIndows 8 on it when it comes out?
I don't know if it's even possible to install anything there?
//Edit: The Programming part is not important for me. But for School. As said I'd use Terminal Sessions for this purpose when thats the only death criteria for android.
Thank my posts if they helped.
There's been talk of putting windows 8 on android devices already, but its too soon to say if it'll actually be possible. I also want to add, Windows 8 ARM apps are most likely not going to be compatible with windows 8 x86 and x64 programs, if that makes a difference to you.
Android has several office suites avalible, and they're pretty good. I'm not exactly sure how strong they are but I do know they're more then enough for most of my entire office. Add the Transformer's hardware keyboard and you should be good to go.
So, I've effectively talked myself into the Asus Eee Pad Transformer for you. What do you think?
I am sure Windows 8 ARM will support MSOffice and Visual C# Express As wella s there will be a notepad++ compile for ARM so that's really all I need lol
Well Microsoft has already said there'll he a version of Office avalible for ARM, so no need to worry about that. But, as I said, android office apps should be all you need,expically with that hardware keyboard. And the transformer has an HDMI out, if I remember correctly, so that (probably) means dual monitor support, and definitely mirroring. Thing is, most people just don't NEED the full capabilities of windows. Only reasons for my laptop are AutoCAD and iTunes. And if windows 8 ARM is going to require its own programs, honestly, why bother with it?
I agree with you.
Define "need"
I saw ubuntu is able to run on the transformer... That opens a new way =)
Which includes even most programming problems
Does anyone know if I can dualboot Android and Ubuntu on the Transformer?
If yes I know what I will buy
android of cos....
Would you guys recommend that one buys the Asus transformer 300 as opposed to waiting for windows 8 tablets and buying one of them? If so, why?
Thanks
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Would you guys recommend that one buys the Asus transformer 300 as opposed to waiting for windows 8 tablets and buying one of them? If so, why?
Thanks
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That's a tough call. I was thinking the same thing. Finally I bought the TF300 reasoning that:
1) Win RT tablets are still months away
2) Even when the first ones are released, it may well be a few more months before a manufacturer releases one I really like
3) Even then, it will be a few more months before there's a critical mass of decent applications for the platform.
So all in all I'm guessing 18 months to two years before Windows 8 tablets are truly attractive propositions, and by that time I'll probably be itching to update anyway, so I'll be able to re-consider the direction I want to go in at the time.
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That's a tough call. I was thinking the same thing. Finally I bought the TF300 reasoning that:
1) Win RT tablets are still months away
2) Even when the first ones are released, it may well be a few more months before a manufacturer releases one I really like
3) Even then, it will be a few more months before there's a critical mass of decent applications for the platform.
So all in all I'm guessing 18 months to two years before Windows 8 tablets are truly attractive propositions, and by that time I'll probably be itching to update anyway, so I'll be able to re-consider the direction I want to go in at the time.
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What is it about windows that is so attractive though? As in, what can you do on a windows tablet that you can't on Android?
2. What do you think, the Dell inspiron duo or this?
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I had the same question a week ago.
My girlfriend needed a "portable office" and the question was: Notebook or Notebook.
But then I told her there is a tablet with keyboard dock and listed some advantages, because she already have a Samsung Galaxy Ace.
And that it is possible to connect external volumes like USB sticks or drives.
Now she uses the TF300T about a week and is still satisfied.
All she has to do is to write some things in Word and a little bit Powerpoint. All this is done very well with OfficeSuite Pro.
Additionally she has to transfer some pictures, e-mails and surfing the net.
No need for Windows.
Now she can sync her calendar very very easy, has her contacts everywhere and can manage them easily, and can use the same payed apps as she bought for her Galaxy Ace.
My job is done.
You should just think about what you do most.
If you want to play some games which are windows only, okay. But you don't have already a PC at home?
Do you have special applications which are windows only?
Android is much smoother than windows. It's faster because it's not overloaded with things normal humans wouldn't need.
Additionally no idea about the battery lifetime. Notebooks have much less and I assume, Windows 8 tablets won't work as long as an Android tablet.
Thanks for the reply!
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What is it about windows that is so attractive though? As in, what can you do on a windows tablet that you can't on Android?
2. What do you think, the Dell inspiron duo or this?
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At this point, nothing, because there aren't any Windows RT tablets to compare to. So it's all speculative, on my part.
However, I would expect to find a very robst and well implemented web brower and a robust and well implemented Office suite as well as good Windows networking and printing.
The emergence of Chrome on Android makes the first point much less of an issue. I've been using Chrome on the TF300 and really, really like it. Heck, I've also found that Opera on my TF300 behaves much better than it does on my HTC Flyer.
But I'm still waiting for a decent Office suite. There are some OK ones out there, getting better by the day. I do like Office Suite Professional. But some pretty important features are missing (for insatnce, the ability to create multi-columned documents).
The big appeal of Windows 8 being on tablets is compatibility. There will be Metro Apps and regular Windows 8 apps. Metro Apps are gonna be for mobile devices like your tablet and your home PC.
With Windows 8 your old x86 PC applications won't run on your tablet, but your new Metro apps should be compatible with your PC and tablet. So if I'm playing a game on my tablet, I go home, I can sync up and continue playing on my PC. That's a very cool options to have. I'm using an app to work on a project on my tablet, I can jump right into the same application, with the same interface, and continue at my desk.
It's one step closer to blurring the line between a home PC and mobile devices.
I know that they utilize different processors, but i didn't know if anyone has seen or heard of any one installing windows 8 on the Tab 2 10.1? I would love to set up my tablet to run both operating systems, but I haven't been able to find anyone with Windows 8 on their Tab yet... Does it sounds like something that might be possible in the future?
The only thing I know about is Launcher 7. Don't know how it would look on a tablet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImluZm8udGlrdXdhcmV6LmxhdW5jaGVyMyJd
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I know that they utilize different processors, but i didn't know if anyone has seen or heard of any one installing windows 8 on the Tab 2 10.1? I would love to set up my tablet to run both operating systems, but I haven't been able to find anyone with Windows 8 on their Tab yet... Does it sounds like something that might be possible in the future?
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windows is closed source so the easy answer is no, you will never see that.
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The only thing I know about is Launcher 7. Don't know how it would look on a tablet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImluZm8udGlrdXdhcmV6LmxhdW5jaGVyMyJd
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Looks like this is only available on phones... It won't allow me to install on the Tab 2 10.1, but I am gonna try it out on my phone, might be fun to play with. I am also going to try out the Splashtop Win8 Metro Testbed when I get home, looks like it could be a good alternative...
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I know that they utilize different processors, but i didn't know if anyone has seen or heard of any one installing windows 8 on the Tab 2 10.1? I would love to set up my tablet to run both operating systems, but I haven't been able to find anyone with Windows 8 on their Tab yet... Does it sounds like something that might be possible in the future?
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Since win8 is closed source, chances are no. If they somehow open it up then good chance yes.
Splashtop Windows 8 Testbed
OK, so I think I found something that will do the trick. Its called splashtop and it streams your windows 8 on a PC to your tablet. And quite well I might add. I haven't tried it via internet but via local network it works great... I really dig it... not to mention it finally forced me to play around with the new windows OS...
why
why we have windows when we have open stable updated android os?
Don't get me wrong, i love ICS, but I also wanted to test out the windows 8 touchscreen abilities without having to buy a windows tablet.
Hi there,
The app you're using in an RDP or VNC app, which will stream your login sessions to your android. You can try also LogMeIn, PocketCloud, etc. There's quite a bunch of those apps you can use. But its really not the same as having Windows 8 as the OS of your tablet.
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OK, so I think I found something that will do the trick. Its called splashtop and it streams your windows 8 on a PC to your tablet. And quite well I might add. I haven't tried it via internet but via local network it works great... I really dig it... not to mention it finally forced me to play around with the new windows OS...
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is the app have a fee on it ?
please help me on this link
WinRT8.1
Windows RT 8.1 is built for devices running ARM architecture the only problem is that you can only install it on devices that already has windows on it. So if you could figure out a way to install it on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 tablet I'm pretty sure it would work.
You can't.
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Can anyone clarify would it be even possible to get Android and Windows 8 running on the Asus Infinity?
Technically? Yes, I think so. The WinRT version of the surface uses Tegra 3, so it'd be like doing an Android SDK port.
Legally? Absolutely not. Asus didnt pay for the Infinity to be licensed for winRT. If it does get done, you certainly wont be hearing about it here.
Then again, that hasnt stopped the HD2 people from freely discussing and using WP7 here, so maybe I"m missing something.
Thanks thats good to know. Someone mentioned it that it is possible to have Android and Windows 8 on the Asus Infinity but I thought I would ask on here for clarification. Sounds like its the Tab to get with this possibility instead of a Win 8 Tab which everyone knows won't be long until there here also.
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I'm not so sure about that. WinRT is closed source, so any attempts to get it working will be kludgy if the HD2's WP7 port (and Android SDK ports in general) is any indication. You'll probably have much better luck getting a native WinRT/Win8 tablet and hacking Android onto it.
Could definitely see Ubuntu working on it at some point though.
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Could definitely see Ubuntu working on it at some point though.
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I'd rather see Ubuntu than Windows. I have a Windows laptop...I don't need a Windows tablet lol. This is my performance device, the tablet is my fun device (that I'm going to use for taking notes as well)
KilerG said:
I'd rather see Ubuntu than Windows. I have a Windows laptop...I don't need a Windows tablet lol. This is my performance device, the tablet is my fun device (that I'm going to use for taking notes as well)
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If history is any indication, we'll get Ubuntu. The TF101 got it natively, a TF201 native version is in progress, and if you dont mind a somewhat slow UI you could always run it in a chroot with root and vnc.
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If history is any indication, we'll get Ubuntu. The TF101 got it natively, a TF201 native version is in progress, and if you dont mind a somewhat slow UI you could always run it in a chroot with root and vnc.
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Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
KilerG said:
Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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How much tablet-optimized is Ubuntu? Is there a difference between running Ubuntu and Windows 7 under a 10" FHD tablet? (apart from commandline and the obvious)
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How much tablet-optimized is Ubuntu? Is there a difference between running Ubuntu and Windows 7 under a 10" FHD tablet? (apart from commandline and the obvious)
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Depends entirely on how you have things set up, but in general Ubuntu isnt that great as a tablet OS unless your using Untiy which isnt exactly light on ram use. The appeal here is more for dock owners seeking a desktop like experience.
I guess it would be similar to Win7, since both would make use of on-screen keyboards but otherwise show a mouse oriented desktop.
Compared to Win8, its a bit kludgy since a native install of Ubuntu would have to reboot into Android for a tablet UI whereas Win8 has metro. A chroot install would be able to easily drop in and out of the desktop, but then you'd have to use VNC which means the desktop UI would be kinda slow. Good enough for, say, office or photo editing but not for viewing videos or playing games.
What about Gentoo?
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KilerG said:
Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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Actually you could install it to a USB drive...no problem....for your laptop.
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Actually you could install it to a USB drive...no problem....for your laptop.
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Didn't think of that...I don't have one on hand though. It'd be nice on something more portable though.
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