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I am very happy with my Touch Pro. In fact, I bought 2. Now I have very many HTC Devices, however, both Touch Pros now show a very strange
behaviour.
I get some ghosting on the screen, which means, if I use solid colour
backgrounds, they previous graphic is partially visible.
Best example is the volume control. I get very strong distortions against the solid background.
Anyone else has this problem?
I also noticed that the mounting points on the edge of the screen, causes
a slight distortion close to ever corner of the screen...
never had this before.
I have the same issue. I've heard that this issue is programmatic not physical lcd burn. Usually a restart helps. Try
darfri said:
I have the same issue. I've heard that this issue is programmatic not physical lcd burn. Usually a restart helps. Try
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Yes, soft reset helps. But i find the location of these distortions really strange.
i get them around the LCD mounting points.
Indeed it is strange and looks really like a physical damage but I think it has something to do with the software (BIOS or whatever is on that position in pda) link to the screen power management. I have this kind of distortion once per week and often it also goes away itself. Actually it almost doesn't disturb me. Ii yours very strong?
This is interesting. I always look over my LCD displays in laptops very carefully for defects. Sometimes corners are pinched and produce dark areas. Sometimes the inverter is bad and gives bad illumination.
My Raphael's screen seems pretty decent so far, even if I look at its edges from extreme angles I don't see much of a problem.
Can you post pictures or youtube? I am curious to know what you are seeing.
I just noticed today a rectangular area on my lcd screen where it looks like oil on water. It's basically a rectangle w/ a half inch border of the "Normal" screen. I can see it from any angle as well as when the phone is turned off. The phone and the touch screen both appear to be working fine. The distortion will react to pressure on the distored part of the screen as well. I'm thinking some moisture got in my phone some how (although I can't for the life of me think when I could've gotten moisture in there). Is there an easy way to fix this or should I call up ATT support to see about sending it in to have them fix it? What's the general next step? I'll post a pic when I get home to my camera. I've had the phone since the first of the year and am currently using EnergyROM 2.0.
Thanks a ton,
Patrick
I haven't seen anything like this before but if it it was you say its probably moisture inside or even oil. Wait a little and see if it clears up, failing that give AT&T a call.
Holy Crap
Dude i have the same problem with mine sometimes, and i thought i was the only one!!
Its almost like the LCD screen is getting some burn-in. Even on a black screen you can see the shadow of an image, using touch flow 3d/2d its about half of the slider bar on the bottom of the screen. Did you also notice that the screen is flickering VERY slightly in the same area, but not on the rest of the screen? You have to try REALLY hard to see it. Almost like when you use a camcorder to see a CRT monitor's refresh rate. I had a feeling from the beginning that it was moisture causing this, because i do have the bad habit of taking my phone in the bathroom when I shower. My LID has turned pink because of the steam.
What makes me think it could be screen burn-in, is that I always keep my backlight as bright as possible, and once i see this start happening, i can turn my phone off for a few minutes, turn it back on and it works just fine with no image shadow.
I actually have been thinking about using my insurance to get a new phone because of this, and making sure i don't shower with the new one.
It's a known issue of the phone. I was able to get mine replaced, but I had it less than 30 days. You should be able to manage to get them to replace it if you make them look up known issues with the phone.
Sorry for the inactivity, I've been spending my days pulling Cat 5e in attics and haven't had much computer time at work / energy at home - I'm going to get in touch w/ ATT sometime this week and see about arranging a replacement, I'll post my results.
i have the same problem. near the corners i see very slight flickering as if the refreshrate can't handle the tf3d.
it most likely because of the themes. when using all of those non-original themes, it' shaving to load all the images, causing it to have very very slight lag. maybe?
it's rediculous, with the price of this phone, you'd expect higher technology for the screen.
Your digitizer is touching the LCD because too much pressure has been applied to it, probably in your pocket.
What you are seeing are Newton's rings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_rings
I think we're talking about two different problems here.
First, you have the rectangular area like the topic starter described and may indeed be what bubble said. However, they are not rings... its a true square (at least for me).
Second, you have the flickering issue. I have this myself sometime at the position of the menu bar. Opera seems to be the only app that triggers this for me though - then i get flickering Opera 'burn in' like effect. This will eventually disappear again after keeping the phone off for a few hours, then on with the screen off. This effect does survive soft-reset and such.
Newton's rings is the name of the observed optical phenomenon. It has nothing to do with it's shape.
I know that in this case it appears on a square section of the screen (I face the same issue and I already ordered a replacement screen).
Is there a solution to the flickering and screen burn problem? I didn't notice it until I had loaded a 6.5 rom and was using the light colored R&R theme. I could then see flickering in the bottom portion of the screen. Then I notice the screen burn of both soft keys.
It went away overnight with the phone off, but came back by the end of the day. It's really upsetting as I love this phone, but hate having something that isn't working right. Any suggestions?
I've had the same issue a couple of times although it wasn't nearly the entire screen. It was just a small blob in the very center of the screen. It happened because it was in my pocket. When it occurred initially it was summer (30-40 degrees celcius here in Perth) and would fix itself after about 5 minutes of being in my hot car (temperature hot, not awesome hot =D ). However (more recently - it's colder now) it stayed for half a day or so and only fixed itself after I sat it in front of the cars heating vents with the heater on for about 10 minutes (not too hot). I'm wondering if the digitiser separates from the LCD when heat is applied. It makes sense to me but I'm not sure I'd recommend anyone trying my solution ... especially if you've got the big square issue.
You also have to be aware that this phenomenon is only visible under artificial light.
That's why some people report it to disappear/reappear.
True ... but when the "phenomenon" disappears (i.e. as the lcd seperates from digitiser) it makes a clicking noise and the screen behind the blob flickers (like when you push on a normal LCD with your finger) indicating that the pressure of the digitiser pulling the screen upwards has been released. Once this has happened the blob has gone. It's not visible under ANY light.
If it happens again ... I'll get some footage.
I found another thread regarding the "Oil Spot" that comes and goes on the LCD that I'm experiencing if others are interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475294
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Hi guys, I have the solution for you! I see burn-ins on my screen and I was able to get rid of them with a simple video that switches fast the main colors (Red Green Blue). Here is the link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liMySLZkF5o
I have the video pulled from youtube as mp4, and 5 minutes of playing on full screen, the display got back to normal, clear and without any burn-ins.
If you need the mp4 vid, let me know so I can send it over (email)
Regards to All
Does anybody else's screen have a blue tint to the white's at any angle other than straight on?
I ask because mine does, and my Fascinate does, but it isn't even really noticeable.
I remember when I got my HTC incredible that some had it worse than others so I'm kind of curious if the Charge I have is an overt anomaly or if I'm just being picky.
i've owned the fascinate, the vibrant and now the charge... they all looked 'bluish' to me... especially when you compared the screens to another phone that is not an amoled.
Engadget mentioned this in their review of the Charge. Disable the auto-brightness setting, and dial it up manually. You should see the blueish tint disappear.
the bluish tint never really goes away .. at least in my experience with 3 different samsungs .. regardless of the brightness setting. turning it up all the way helps but it's definitely still noticeable .. depends on whether or not you can live with it
I'm planning to pick up a Charge this Saturday, and will be going to the store with a list of "concerns" such as this one. If I can reporduce the blue tint and then make it disappear enough to not annoy the hell out of me, I'll be leaving with one.
Luckily I know the salesperson I'm buying it from, so it will not have the OTA installed when he hands it over.
FWIW, I just realized all of my tinting issues were due to the Zagg Invisible Shield I had on it. I realized this after I took the generic brand protector off my Fascinate and realized all the colors popped more.
Yes, OLED/AMOLED/SAMOLED/SAMOLED+ screens have pink or blue tint depending on the angle, but mine was *awful* compared to my Epic 4G, Fascinate, and HTC Incredible.
Zagg screen protector off, Phantom Skin screen protector on...takes a significantly greater angle to cause the degree of tinting issues I was seeing with anything but straight-on.
Much, MUCH happier with the display now
I actually work in the oled industry , the reason you see a blusish tint is because blue lives the shortest. so to avoid degradation and increase efficiency they optimize the screens using blue as the jump point.
although it is a blue tint it by industry standards is called a cool white. when you increase intensity on the screen you see less of this tint because at the higher points the three colors intensity start to create a more pure white.
you must remember OLED compared to other screen technology is in its infancy, we have developed blue molecules that will live longer with better efficiency when you start to see these roll out in the industry more pure whites will be acheived.
You can complain about blue tint all you want but it is by design so there is nothing you can change.....now with voodoo kernels you can adjust this but you run the risk of color degradation more quickly so dont leave static images on your screen as colors will degrade faster than others and you will see "Burn in " if you will
Oh, I totally understand the blue tint to OLED's, and I'm fine with it. No complaints.
But this was *bad*. Even using the phone in my hand, every slight movement was causing it to flicker from pink to blue to warm tones and so the screen itself looked like it was having a film waved in front of it. It was distracting and awful compared to my other OLED-ish devices.
Lo and behold, it was just the screen protector type I was using. No issues with it now.
(I actually prefer cool tones to my displays anyway, so its all good.)
I am comparing 2 Charges side by side and one has a really blue tint and the other has perfect whites. Mine is the one that is really blue. My display is noticeably dimmer then the one without the bluish tint. As much as I hate to do it I might swap it out to see if I get one that does not have the blue tint.
I have used the dock on mine for about 2 weeks nightly. Could have have caused a burn in effect by keeping the clock screen on at night?
Edit: nothing is wrong with the screen. Its only noticeable if you have both right next to each other. If you look at one then the other you really can't even tell. I bought an episode of South Park on media hub and it looks better then my 46 inch Samsung led tv.
I took a look around and didn't see anything similar, but it seems like the bottom left corner of my screen is brighter than the rest when it is grey. It's not super noticeable, but you can kind of see it when the nav bar changes in the settings menu.
I assumed it was backlight bleed, but I don't see it when the screen is black, only grey.
Does anyone else have any experience with this? I don't know if I am just crazy or not., i.e. is this even a possibility.
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I took a look around and didn't see anything similar, but it seems like the bottom left corner of my screen is brighter than the rest when it is grey. It's not super noticeable, but you can kind of see it when the nav bar changes in the settings menu.
I assumed it was backlight bleed, but I don't see it when the screen is black, only grey.
Does anyone else have any experience with this? I don't know if I am just crazy or not., i.e. is this even a possibility.
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Try a screenshot, and a photo. Does it only appear on one of those?
Doesn't show in a screenshot. However, I went and looked at a display model and it was somewhat similar... At this point i think it's minor enough not to mess with. Especially since I don't have any of the other issues.
e.: It looks like its the back light shining. I guess the weird part is that I don't see it on a black screen.
The same here. The phone is Rev.2, 10.10.2014. This issue is on many Z3 phones, because i had at least eight Z3 phones in my hands for the last 2 monthes, and almost everyone has an uneven grey (white) or some kind of shadings on bottom of screen. I don`t know what`s the problem, i`m a little bit hate Sony for that, i buy a expensive phone, and it have such a problems, maybe this is not so much critical, but for me it is unpleasant thing.
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And, by the way, for those 2 monthes i still didn`t found a "perfect" Z3. Everyone has an other issues: if the screen was ok, it has a uneven gaps between screen and frame, if there`s no gaps on the screen, there`s a caps with gaps, if there no gaps at all, there`s a problem with the screen, and, as i wrote earlier, almost everyone phone i looked has a uneven grey (white) on bottom of screen, but some of them has a gaps problem in addition to the problem with the screen, and some of them didn`t, but from those 8-10 phones i looked in a last 2 monthes, noone has no problem at all! This is sad, but it`s true. Or maybe i`m so lucky
I went in and got it exchanged as it was bleeding light from the gap, and now this one is worse, and on both sides. I was told by the sales rep that "All of ours are like that, it must just be how its made", and they wouldn't give me another. This one also has a pink spot on the camera. I am going to another store tomorrow. At this point I can deal with the uneven grey, but not this. I'm going to tell them Sony said the light in the gaps was a manufacturing defect... even if they haven't directly said that.
Got a third one.... better, but same issues. It is lighter in the bottom right corner of the screen, but since you have said that seems to just be how most are, I'll probably just try to get used to it.
same issue
I have exactly the same problem but with the colour white, the lower right hand side of the screen is a tad bit darker than the left when the screen is displaying a white colour, one has to really observe the screen carefully to notice it,however it is a bit irritating after you learn that you spent so.much on a phone with this kind of problem, Sony should really step up heir quality controls.
For me it's the lower left corner that's slightly darker (or the lower right corner that's brighter, whichever way you want to look at it). I've had so many Z3's in my hands and this issue is pretty common. Though it has to be said that grey is a very difficult color for displays in general as it points out even the slightest non-uniformity. It's not surprising that a solid grey screen is recommended for TV's if you want to test for clouding or DSE.
I think in the end we should just let it be if its a general problem, it shouldnt spoil our experience with such a great handset.
Hello fellow XDA members,
In the past I started some threads regarding Samsung AMOLED display quality, especially for the Note devices.
Please see here if you are interessted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
Now, with the S8+ (and the S8, the problem is the same), even the media recognized the display problems, known as "red tint", just google for it!
Samsung tells the people that this is due to wrong settings, and/or the adaptive display setting turned on! THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!
I got 2 pieces of S8+ today, and both displays are not OK. One screen has the red tint issue, but only on the upper half of the screen.
The other device has no red tint, but is generally darker and looks more "washed out" and has a slight yellow tint.
So again the display lottery is back, it is only "luck of the draw" if you get a decent screen or not!!!
If you do not believe me just compare a few devices beneath each other with the exact same display settings. Turn adaptive display off, then go into the dialer and type *#0*#, with this you ensure the brightness settings are the same and you have the same sceen content on both devices. You will notice that every single device has a different screen quality (tint, evenness, ...)
What do you say? Acceptable or not?
With all of us over at the tmobile shipping thread we've been waiting and crying and hoping that we get our devices early....and then when we finally got our devices ****ty things like red tint leaves a sour taste in our mouths..sad really, samsung already made this device feel rushed with all the Bixby and fingerprint scanner awkward positioning and what did we do after the note 7 debacle? We forgave these fools...and now this?....i do feel bad for those that actually paid full retail price for these expensive devices and to unbox and realize the screen is pink...that right there is not how to say forgive us for our mistakes instead a huge f u to all the customers who were unlucky enough to get such a horrible display color....but I will say I won the lottery because out of the box my s8plus came out nice no red pinkish tint whites are white...but why am I still pissed? Because my note 4 was the same whites were white and then after a year or so my eyes were fixed on a strange color that was taking up half of the screen that came out of nowhere...so yes I will be forever paranoid with sammys displays now....if my s8plus came in like that I don't think I would've came back....but then again I'm here lol
Settle down guys, this will likely be fixed with a future fw given the attention its gotten, this is pretty simple for samsung to fix actually, all samsung needs to do is what video games have been doing for years; offer the user an option to calibrate based a sample image. Once thats in, the presets can be established based off of those generated values from the user selection.
It seems like they will indeed need to implement a fix of this sorts, because it does seem the displays hue varys from device to device.
Anyways, for the most part, I hardly notice it and it seems even, and the more I look at it, the more i can't make sense out of it? Seems to play tricks on my eyes... lol.
Beautiful phone and display though!
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Settle down guys, this will likely be fixed with a future fw given the attention its gotten, this is pretty simple for samsung to fix actually, all samsung needs to do is what video games have been doing for years, offer the user an option to calibrate based on a sample image provided, once thats in the presets can be established based off of those generated values.
It seems they will need to implement thia because the displays vary so from device to device.
Anyways, for the most part, I hardly notice it, it seems even, and the more look at it the more i can make sense out of it, seems to llay tricks on my eyes, lol.
Beautiful phone and display though!
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This is a hardware problem, a real software fix IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!
Samsung can only try to cammo the problem with increasing the range of the color-sliders in the display settings, so that you can turn down red more then now. But this wont fix that the red tint is NOT EVEN ACROSS THE DISPLAY!!
What else proves that this is a hardware error is that if you put 5 devices next to each other (with the exact same settings), each of them will look different in regard to screen quality! Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, see my previous threads regarding that!
I agree that it should be even otherwise you may have a hardware problem but my concern is your criticism has more to do with amoled in gerneral and what we are observing is a consequence of the tech used. Samsung is also pushing the boundries here too with the display tech so the norms for amoled to compare to may not even apply anymore. And your comment to my comment regarding masking the problem, there is a reason why every display on the planet has picture settings.. right? No 2 displays are exactly the same...
I just went through the crap with my Surface Pro 4 too, trust me, they are a good example of no 2 displays alike, must have went though at least 11 Surface Pro 4 on my mission for perfection display and I had to give up in the end because truth is, its still an awesome device!
that happens when you get the early batches of s8+
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that happens when you get the early batches of s8+
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Absolutely unacceptable reasoning. They shouldn't be putting out a product if the "early batches" are DEFECTIVE
Obviously it's a QC problem, which they seem to have some fairly big issues with, over and over.. They will lose customer faith if they keep doing this ****
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Absolutely unacceptable reasoning. They shouldn't be putting out a product if the "early batches" are DEFECTIVE
Obviously it's a QC problem, which they seem to have some fairly big issues with, over and over.. They will lose customer faith if they keep doing this ****
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Perhaps but then again why did you buy a phone from samsung in the first place?.....
I was in the Samsung store yesterday for the launch party. They had 3 S8+ on display next to eachother. Each was running the exact same retail mode, showing the exact same content at the exact same time.
One display was white, one was red hued, and one was pee yellow.
(No, it wasn't display calibration settings, I checked).
There are definitely quality control issues.
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I was in the Samsung store yesterday for the launch party. They had 3 S8+ on display next to eachother. Each was running the exact same retail mode, showing the exact same content at the exact same time.
One display was white, one was red hued, and one was pee yellow.
(No, it wasn't display calibration settings, I checked).
There are definitely quality control issues.
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And which of the 3 do you have?
I noticed a slight pinkish tint when the shipping screen protector was on, but looks ok without it.
Something slightly different this year is there seems to be a pink tinge on all four sides of the display (top, bottom, left and right). It's a very consistent along the sides of the screen and very noticeable, a few people here have also noticed it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/red-tint-screen-t3592335
So it's not just another pink/yellow/blue/green spotty tinge problem, theres now uniformity with the example i've provided.
I've got the S8+ and the screen is not red at all. The left and right edges if anything have a slight blueish tone to them but I believe this to be the effect of the screen curving to the sides distorting the colour (Colour shift?).
Unless you have bought one and have the problem with it, you have no right to complain.
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And which of the 3 do you have?
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Mine had a very slight pink tinge when I got it, at the very top and bottom (maybe half the status bar thickness), and it's since gone way.
The over all display color was a little too warm for my liking, so I knocked the red slider down to half, and now it's fine.
Got me and the wife one yesterday from At&t. No red tint and best phone yet. I love it.
My display is freaking beautiful and I love the fingerprint location. I never had any trouble. My finger finds it very naturally
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TML1504 said:
Hello fellow XDA members,
In the past I started some threads regarding Samsung AMOLED display quality, especially for the Note devices.
Please see here if you are interessted:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
Now, with the S8+ (and the S8, the problem is the same), even the media recognized the display problems, known as "red tint", just google for it!
Samsung tells the people that this is due to wrong settings, and/or the adaptive display setting turned on! THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!
I got 2 pieces of S8+ today, and both displays are not OK. One screen has the red tint issue, but only on the upper half of the screen.
The other device has no red tint, but is generally darker and looks more "washed out" and has a slight yellow tint.
So again the display lottery is back, it is only "luck of the draw" if you get a decent screen or not!!!
If you do not believe me just compare a few devices beneath each other with the exact same display settings. Turn adaptive display off, then go into the dialer and type *#0*#, with this you ensure the brightness settings are the same and you have the same sceen content on both devices. You will notice that every single device has a different screen quality (tint, evenness, ...)
What do you say? Acceptable or not?
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im not tying to be a jerk but just curious what happens when you cycle the --blue light filter-- button in the pull down menu with the wifi, Airplane mode ect.
reason i ask my displays is perfect but with the blue light filter on which is to reduce eyestrain ..then the display is very red
Really did not know they had this till i play around with it
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I've got the S8+ and the screen is not red at all. The left and right edges if anything have a slight blueish tone to them but I believe this to be the effect of the screen curving to the sides distorting the colour (Colour shift?).
Unless you have bought one and have the problem with it, you have no right to complain.
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I have an S8+ as per my posts in the other thread, so I have a right to complain.
Firstly, it could well be fixed by software, even if its uneven, HTC had issues with the camera doing this a number of years ago (big red spot in all pictures). It was fixed with software
Secondly, it might disappear with time. AMOLED, OLED and other self lighting technologies (like Plasma in TVs) have a bed in time, where some colour ranges need to burn in. I would suggest a full red screen using a screen tester app for a few hours, to see if it beds in the red.
Guys, I would like to take this device, there is a possibility of having a faded display?