Hi all,
I had a phone, which was S-OFF, however the bootloader was locked. I unlocked it using HTCDev but I didnt like it so I decided to go down the hboot downgrade route. When downgraded the Hboot from v. 2.002.000 (or something similar) to 0.98.000 the phone restarted, the Security was not on and i was left stuck in boot.
The phone is branded and I dont have another Android phone to try the Goldcard method to try and flash RUU and I am not too sure whetether there are any other alternatives.
When I try to flash a version of RUU, which I found for my carrier (TMO UK) it either says wrong ID or wrong HBOOT version.
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.98.0000
RADIO-38.03.02.11_M
eMMC-boot
Mar 10 2011, 14:58:38
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks guys
EDIT: Goldcard was the solution. Thanks guys!
Phone that was S-OFF, and you did all what you wrote you did with it??
I'm sorry, but it looks like you need to learn to read more and understand what you want/need to do before you act.
Unfortunately for you, unless you find an RUU to upgrade you / create the goldcard - you screwed your phone.
Yes I know. I have read later on that a branded phone might need a gold card to install an RUU different from the branded one. I have ordered a Gold card and it should arrive soonish.
Anyway, I was trying to flash the newer version of HBOOT (v.2). I placed the PG88IMG.zip into the root of the SD, loaded HBOOT, however, it didn't flash. There was a green message saying that there is such a file, however, I did not get an option to flash it.
Any ideas are welcome,
Thanks for your time
There's a way to make goldcard with hex editor. Not in a position to search at the moment but. I'm sure it's in here somewhere
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alternatively try the ics ruu, it's universal.
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You can make goldcard either by hex editor or by GoldCardTool. The most important thing is that you have to get SD Card Serial (CID).
Try to connect your phone to PC with USB Debbugging turned ON, and type command:
adb shell cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:*/cid
if you can get something returned so you are ready to make goldcard
Good luck
If you can't get anything whilst plugged into the phone, try this http://www.ehow.com/how_5894885_sd-card-id.html
You'll need a card reader though
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jugg1es said:
If you can't get anything whilst plugged into the phone, try this http://www.ehow.com/how_5894885_sd-card-id.html
You'll need a card reader though
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Thanks guys! I've got one other phone, HTC One X, which I've rooted just fine, but it hasn't got an SD card slot I've ordered a gold card made by someone and it should arrive tomorrow so I'll let you know when I try it out.
Any suggestions on what I should do next when I get it or is it just a case of flashing one of the stock RUUs?
Thanks for your help so far guys, brilliant support.
just insert goldcard into phone, boot to bootloader and then flash stock RUU
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jugg1es said:
If you can't get anything whilst plugged into the phone, try this http://www.ehow.com/how_5894885_sd-card-id.html
You'll need a card reader though
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I think this will NOT help, because the Card ID is associated with the phone itself, not with the SD card
When you replace sd card with another one, the CID remains the same
Sorry thought it was associated with the card, not the phone thought the goldcard was universal
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Sorry thought it was associated with the card, not the phone thought the goldcard was universal
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Yes you are right and the other guy is not. The Goldcard used CID, but of the SDcard. I have successfully made a GoldCard with my laptop card slot, while my device was softbricked a couple of months ago.
And I described how in several threads in the Q&A and General section.
Also the Goldcard can be used for update to a version for another region only, it has nothing to do with the bootloader
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Yes you are right and the other guy is not. The Goldcard used CID, but of the SDcard. I have successfully made a GoldCard with my laptop card slot, while my device was softbricked a couple of months ago.
And I described how in several threads in the Q&A and General section.
Also the Goldcard can be used for update only, it has nothing to do with the bootloader
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still doesn't explain why my first two didn't work probably down to the cheap cards I used
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still doesn't explain why my first two didn't work probably down to the cheap cards I used
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I made 4 before got one working. After you make it and unplug it and then plug it again in the PC and it is opened without a message that Windows have to format it then it is working.
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I gave up after two which is why I'm still s-on. Going to give it another go before xtcclip
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amidabuddha said:
Yes you are right and the other guy is not. The Goldcard used CID, but of the SDcard. I have successfully made a GoldCard with my laptop card slot, while my device was softbricked a couple of months ago.
And I described how in several threads in the Q&A and General section.
Also the Goldcard can be used for update to a version for another region only, it has nothing to do with the bootloader
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I said that because when I replaced with another sd card, the CID remains the same.
you can check it yourself
CID is a property of the phone. And it's not Card ID, it's Customer ID.
Don't know what the GoldCard bases itself on, but if it's only the CID - it can be easily found out and used manually. fastboot getvar cid.
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CID is a property of the phone. And it's not Card ID, it's Customer ID.
Don't know what the GoldCard bases itself on, but if it's only the CID - it can be easily found out and used manually. fastboot getvar cid.
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First on Google with a keyword "Sdcard CID": http://www.ehow.com/how_7878340_read-cid-sd-card.html
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First on Google with a keyword "Sdcard CID": http://www.ehow.com/how_7878340_read-cid-sd-card.html
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That's what I thought, if it was connected to the phone cid then the card wouldn't be universal and then a lot of people would have bricks for phones. 1 card does all HTC.
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amidabuddha said:
First on Google with a keyword "Sdcard CID": http://www.ehow.com/how_7878340_read-cid-sd-card.html
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this stuff is NOT what we are talking about
Please check yourself by inserting another SD card in the phone and see if the CID was changed or not
(by using Goldcard Helper)
OP stated he didn't have a goldcard or a way to make one, hence he had ordered one to run the ruu, the point was he didn't have to wait for goldcard he could still make one.
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vndnguyen said:
this stuff is NOT what we are talking about
Please check yourself by inserting another SD card in the phone and see if the CID was changed or not
(by using Goldcard Helper)
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Ok to sum up and cut the OFF-TOPIC:
1) there is a HTC CID (customer ID), as JackR1 mentioned. In general it looks like this: HTC__102 or similar (8 characters in total)
2) there is a CID of the NAND FLASH MEMORY (internal memory of the phone, which is a type of memory card in general) - a 32 alphanumeric characters, contains codename, serial number, etc. On our devices it is mmc1 and it never changes (I guess this is what you see in GoldCard Helper)
3) there is a SDcard CID (a 32 alphanumeric characters, contains codename, serial number, etc). On our devices it is mmc2 (this is what you get in GoldCard Helper as "SDcard CID" - it is even written in the app itself. This is what you use to create the GoldCard. It is different for each SDcard, but once it is created this SDcard can be used as a GoldCard on any device (Android or Windows Mobile).
I am not completely aware of the principle but in general it allows triggering of some kind of service mode and flashing software with different customer ID, i.e. different brand or region (it is the only purpose, it cannot be used for downgrading to lower version of the software)
So in opposite to SuperCID which actually changes the Customer ID (to 11111111) to allow the same using a Goldcard is not changing anything of the phone properties.
Final note: it is not recommended to use the device with a Goldcard as a regular SDcard, so use a spare card to create one (Kingston 2 GB is reported to work fine). Personally I sucessfuly made my GoldCard with the one that comes with the device, but I had to revert it later, because it causes random reboots on the phone
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Hey guys,
I have been trying for ages to get a goldcard to work for the Sensation. I have managed to create a goldcard, but sadly, when trying to flash via fastboot (using RUU) and off the SD card, it doesn't work.
This leads me to think: Have HTC someone disabled the spoofing of CIDs from gold cards? Like I said, the gold card is created properly, the only thing I can think of, is that HTC disabled it? Or could it just be the SD card that is causing it to not work?
I am not a huge expert on this, can anyone else help?
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Hey guys,
I have been trying for ages to get a goldcard to work for the Sensation. I have managed to create a goldcard, but sadly, when trying to flash via fastboot (using RUU) and off the SD card, it doesn't work.
This leads me to think: Have HTC someone disabled the spoofing of CIDs from gold cards? Like I said, the gold card is created properly, the only thing I can think of, is that HTC disabled it? Or could it just be the SD card that is causing it to not work?
I am not a huge expert on this, can anyone else help?
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nice your trying, will keep my eye on you
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nice your trying, will keep my eye on you
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Haha thanks capy
I have 4 SD cards which I am testing out. Using bootloader method with PG58IMG.zip (Sensation ROM name in zip via bootloader) and via RUU (fastboot commands and then running the RUU, commands found here
Let's see how it goes. But I am worried that HTC did disable it somehow Is that possible?
i have no idea, but now i have a big intrest as i can get it here now, but if i cannot cook for it, then why by it but would be nice cooking for it along with dhd
I believe goldcard doesn't really help on most modern devices from htc...
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I believe goldcard doesn't really help on most modern devices from htc...
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I thought it worked on the Incredible S? Certainly worked on the DHD. I didn't ever use one, but I know people have done it (seen it in threads regarding debranding)
Information courtesy of jagaroth via a PM to me:
Sorry to PM but I can't post on a dev section without 10 posts and won't spam other subjects when hacking the desire is what I'm interested in. Feel free to repost if you think anything below is interesting (or will save others time).
Ok, I have at least 2 working gold cards and none of the HTC generic Roms will flash.
Thought I would try flashing my networks ROM (just testing fastboot PG58IMG.zip) & while that passed sig check it failed to install.
So next thing to try was using the RUU.exe and againg a fail. Seems you can't downgrade your existing ROM. I have 1.27.161.1 & the RUU is 1.24.161.1.
With downgrading Roms out for now (even with a gold card) a bit more digging is needed to un-brand and caution in upgrading since going back if an exploit is discovered will be tricky.
There does seem to be a weakness that may enable gingerbreak style root. Data can be pushed to data/local/tmp , chmod used and code executed there. A small chink in the armour.
Much faffing around in adb shell and examining logcat data awaits. Feels very strange having a tethered phone when I've got used to wifi adb!
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So yeah, seems goldcard is out Such a shame
I hate HTC right now. At least a nice little goldcard would mean I could dump this Vodafone crap, and get proper Sensation Rosie here (the transparent one).
Update: I tried to run the HTC 1.27 shipped RUU (not the 1.24 RUU) and I got a different error. It was a signature error, not a CID error. What could this mean exactly? Not an expert.
madindehead said:
Information courtesy of jagaroth via a PM to me:
So yeah, seems goldcard is out Such a shame
I hate HTC right now. At least a nice little goldcard would mean I could dump this Vodafone crap, and get proper Sensation Rosie here (the transparent one).
Update: I tried to run the HTC 1.27 shipped RUU (not the 1.24 RUU) and I got a different error. It was a signature error, not a CID error. What could this mean exactly? Not an expert.
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Goldcard's don't allow downgrading on their own. You have to change the ROM version identifier in misc to a lower version - in addition to using a Goldcard if you have a carrier CID and are downgrading to stock - if you want to do that. As far as upgrading/unbranding, I can't say why the sig check is failing as I don't have the phone and I'm not an expert. These instructions work for making a Goldcard for the DHD:
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-...ding-1-32-405-6-1-84-720-3-a.html#post2657079
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Goldcard's don't allow downgrading on their own. You have to change the ROM version identifier in misc to a lower version - in addition to using a Goldcard if you have a carrier CID and are downgrading to stock - if you want to do that. As far as upgrading/unbranding, I can't say why the sig check is failing as I don't have the phone and I'm not an expert. These instructions work for making a Goldcard for the DHD:
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-...ding-1-32-405-6-1-84-720-3-a.html#post2657079
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So, where is the misc that you can change the version number in to downgrade then?
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So, where is the misc that you can change the version number in to downgrade then?
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It's the partition on the phone where things like CID, ROM version and other variables are stored. You need at least temp root to write to it so we're not in a position to do this yet.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
dazweeja said:
It's the partition on the phone where things like CID, ROM version and other variables are stored. You need at least temp root to write to it so we're not in a position to do this yet.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
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Damn ok. Thanks for that. Then I will stop with trying to get 1.24 to install. 1.27 gives me a signature error, not a CID error, so not sure what that is (going from Vodafone 1.27 to HTC 1.27).
I guess I will pack it in until we get temp root. And since GingerBreak doesn't work, I don't know how we can get temp root. Really need a proper dev to get the device and start work on it, as I wouldn't know where to start looking, unless people can give me pointers?
If we find a dev willing to work on it we should have a whip round so they can buy a sensation. I saw they did this on an attrix thread if I remember right and they had the money in donations within a couple of days.
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kingguff said:
If we find a dev willing to work on it we should have a whip round so they can buy a sensation. I saw they did this on an attrix thread if I remember right and they had the money in donations within a couple of days.
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Not a bad idea.
TO begin with, temp root would be a massive bonus. First allowing rooted apps to at least run, and then work can begin on the actual bootloader.
Yes it was the attrix thread, they got 700$ to a dev in China and he is making progress by the sound of it.
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I cannot find it now. I'll have a look when i get home
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well i tried everything i know related to goldcards and no dice. my sensation has 1.27 base and i was trying to update to 1.28. no matter how many cards i made (yes they were correctly made) i come done to this:
(bootloader) checking custom ID...
FAILED (remote: 42 custom id check fail)
The best is to speak with AlphaRev team...........
I only flashed the stock asia rom again,and felt a bit faster than before..
same
Same thing here
I have made a gold card, and i am getting the Country ID (CID) error.
RADLOUNI said:
Same thing here
I have made a gold card, and i am getting the Country ID (CID) error.
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The same..I tried to flash O2 1.34 ROM, but it said CID incorrect
I'm having the most difficult time downgrading so that I can root the phone I've tried the Ace Hack kit way and the one click way and neither seem to work. once im in the hboot menu it doesnt detect anything.
malicenfz said:
I'm having the most difficult time downgrading so that I can root the phone I've tried the Ace Hack kit way and the one click way and neither seem to work. once im in the hboot menu it doesnt detect anything.
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you need to install supporting software such as HTC sync.
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I'm having the most difficult time downgrading so that I can root the phone I've tried the Ace Hack kit way and the one click way and neither seem to work. once im in the hboot menu it doesnt detect anything.
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Needless to say, you aren't following the instructions to a tee, or your goldcard was created improperly.
When you are in hboot, does it say "s-off" anywhere? I ask because I'm trying to ascertain what point in the process you have completed.
Please be as detailed as possible.
HTC Sync has been installed, the drivers installed then I uninstalled HTC Sync
The HBOOT is still S-ON and I'm pretty sure I made my goldcard correctly but I could be mistaken. I have rooted an Inspire before but this one isnt rooting for some reason maybe I'm missing something.
malicenfz said:
HTC Sync has been installed, the drivers installed then I uninstalled HTC Sync
The HBOOT is still S-ON and I'm pretty sure I made my goldcard correctly but I could be mistaken. I have rooted an Inspire before but this one isnt rooting for some reason maybe I'm missing something.
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Well, you're going to have to pick one method or the other and stick with it...
Hack kit I haven't used, bubby's I have.
Bubbys it is for me then.
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Bubbys it is for me then.
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You most likely are missing something, as you had suggested yourself previously.
Have you tried restarting the process from scratch? Remaking your goldcard?
I'd suggest that before trying to dive further into specifics.
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I see you've found bubby's thread, and decided to ask there. Good call.
is there a step by step noob guide to making a gold card i think thats where im messing it up
malicenfz said:
is there a step by step noob guide to making a gold card i think thats where im messing it up
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Well, the gold card maker integrated with bubbys tool is about ad step by step as you can get. However, this how I did it, using a class 4, 4gb patriot SD card I had sitting around...
With SD card in the phone, connect to pc so it pops up as a disk drive, choose the drive and do a full fat32 format with the smallest allocation size.
Then use the gold card maker. Also, whenever the the rooting process requires a change from disk drive to charge only, ALWAYS unmount the SD card (phone) from the OS first (safely remove hardware). They get corrupted of you don't, and the card will fail.
This rooting process is actually made clearer by following zonderion's video, linked in the op of bubbys thread.
If you replicate his every step, EXACTLY how you see him doing it, you'll succeed, assuming your SD card isn't corrupted from previous poor unmounting practices.
Is there any way to find out if I made the gold card correctly?
malicenfz said:
Is there any way to find out if I made the gold card correctly?
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install HTC sync for Inspire
use attn's latest hack kit,
its menu driven, runs smooth
Ive tried both methods for downgrading and neither work, then when i go to option 3 there it takes me to a black screen with a phone and a red triangle in it?
I don't know what I'm doing wrong I even followed the steps one by one from the video and it still doesnt detect any files in the HBOOT thing I'm giving up lol thanks for the help guys.
When you go into the bootloader does it say s-off or s-on
Sent through the power of Cthulhu.
S-on
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I bought a Desire S off eBay. It had Froyo Orange UK on it.
Yesterday I started flashing it (whilst having a couple of drinks!)
I got it to S-OFF, got Revolutionary working and had a rooted Gingerbread ROM on it, but I cant remember which variant.
I don't have an Orange SIM so I started using various methods to unlock the SIM, getting more frustrated and drinking more.
I read hudreds of threads (not too methodically) and eventually decided I needed S-ON so I have got it back to an S-ON state.
By this time I was drunk and cannot remember if it booted after I S-ON'ed it and therefore cant tell if I have USB Debugging enabled.
I think the bootloader may be locked but it boots into the white HBOOT screen. There is no Recovery that works so I am stuck with a blank page.
If I try to RUU Orange UK or any stock ROM on it I get different errors half way through.
I have tried to flash a new HBoot onto it but get a signatire error in fastboot utility. Revolutionary no longer works.
I'm lost. I'm going for a walk!
You tried HTC unlock bootloader ? Then flashing a new recovery?
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Maybe unlock it via htcdev.com, flash new recovery with fastboot
fastbooot flash recovery PathToRecoveryImg
...do it sober dude ^^
Well....first dont drink n flash.
Then try the following:
Flash a new recovery via android flasher.I suggest the 4ext touch.For me is the best out there.
Then wipe the device ccompleteley including cache ,data,system etc.
Then flash the rom you want.
After that reboot into bootloader and choose fastboot.
Extract the.same rom that you flash somewere in your pc.Copy the boot.img and paste it in you platform tools in sdk dir.
Open cmd.
Connect your device.
Assuming your sdk is to c:/ and named for ex android-sdk-windows then type.
Cd c:/android-sdk-windows/platform-tools
Fastboot devices(see if the device identified)
Fastboot flash boot boot.img
Done.
Then reboot your device
Hope that helps
don't drink and driv... ehm flash your phone! (or post in the wrong forum )
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don't drink and driv... ehm flash your phone! (or post in the wrong forum )
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+1 for that @apx
While i have all the sympathy for you @Nezbert, this is the wrong place to put your questions.
In case the alcohol hasn't metabolized completely, let me put it in clear loud words - "This is the Development forum... NOT the Question and Answer Forum. Your thread does not belong here. The Q&A thread is custom built for exactly these kind of threads"
Thread reported for relocation. I hope you understand.
Probably why he thinks he had froyo on it...
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Probably why he thinks he had froyo on it...
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Might have been a super secret prototype by HTC R&D
Haha. All jokes aside, does the phone actually work? Maybe he pulled battery?
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This sounds like exactly what I did mate, I believe it was a combination of incorrect goldcard and trying to install a foreign RUU -- which Revolutionary bootloader with S-OFF will allow.
check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1464513
I managed to solve it, but I needed to borrow a phone to do it. Check out my solution post on Page 2
Actually I might as well just tell you what I think will work here.
1. Borrow a friends android phone, any phone should do I believe.
2. Download Goldcard Helper from the market, use it to get the CIDs of the memory on your phone. One of these is the SD card, you might as well copy both down but for me MMC2 was my SD card. The app by default copies the other one when you use the Menu > Copy function, so don't use that. Go to the website and generate the goldcard.img file.
3. Use GoldCardTool (attached) to patch your SD card.
4. Pop it into the phone and boot to HBOOT and select fastboot again
5. If you've unlocked the HBOOT via HTCDev.com, lock it again before trying an RUU! If you don't have fastboot.exe it's in the ADB-Windows.zip attached... type "Fastboot oem lock" to lock the HBOOT.
6. Run the RUU for Europe - RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed worked for me
That should do it. Hope it does mate!
I just tried using the HTC Dev unlock bootloader site and at the first fastboot command I get:
...
(bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
OKAY [ 0.006s]
finished. total time: 0.007s
The command was for 'fastboot oem get_identifier_token'
I know fastboot is connected because if I issue 'fastboot reboot' the phone reboots.
Looking at your other posts now. Thanks.
I'm gonna use my Sony Ericsson Xperia to download the goldcard app and try that. I'll report back in a bit. Fingers crossed!
FrakEarth, thank you!! Your advice worked to the letter!!
The only thing I didn't do was the fastboot oem lock part, as I couldn't get fastboot to work.
Now I am kind of back to square one. I have a working OS on an Orange UK phone but when I put my giffgaff/o2 SIM in there isa no prompt to enter an unlock code. I have bought a code that goes with my IMEI but I dont know how to enter it.
Is there an easy way to SIM unlock this?? I will search the site.
Thanks again FrakEarth!!
One more question...
Now that Android has booted and created all it's driectories on my SD card will it still be a Goldcard, or will it have been overwritten into a standard SD?
One more question!
Where do I click to edit the thread title to [SOLVED]?
Nezbert said:
One more question...
Now that Android has booted and created all it's driectories on my SD card will it still be a Goldcard, or will it have been overwritten into a standard SD?
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I think that you still have the files needed for the GoldCard but don't bother, it's not something that will create any problems. As I recall my old SD Card when I used it as a Goldcard, I installed my desired Android RUU but there were still some files in the SD from the Goldcard utility.
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One more question!
Where do I click to edit the thread title to [SOLVED]?
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You select "edit post" in your 1st post and then select "Go advanced" and there you have it.
Drink less!
Are u sure? How possible u buy a desire s with froyo? It have gingerbread at first!
Hello everyone, I experienced some problems with my Explorer and I'm asking your help because this drove me to nuts.
A few days ago my phone began to have network problems, after a while from boot it loses carrier signal and shows "limited service". In the first days a reboot fixed that (the problem replicates after a while), but now I have to reboot the phone 5-6 times in order to get signal. And it loses it anyway after a few hours.
I have unlocked the bootloader and I know my warranty has gone. If something failed with the antenna I'm screwed, but I want to try everything is possible on software side, so I tried to flash radio.img via fastboot but I get the "remote: signature verify fail" error... I tried to use RUUs but it gave me error 131 every time. If I load the official rom (taken from ruu) on the sdcard and open hboot it checks the zip and return me another signature error... I'm really exhausted =.=
How can I flash this radio.img? Maybe it won't solve anything, but I think it's worth trying..
Thank you for your help folks!
You can't flash hboot or radio using fastboot on an s-on device. An s-off method for explorer hasn't been developed yet
Thank you so much for your answer, I was really gettin' crazy.
What do you suggest?
irvelmobile said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I was really gettin' crazy.
What do you suggest?
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First you should determine whether the problem is due to your service provider, by trying the sim card on a different phone.
Error 131 occurs when you are trying to run the RUU for a different region. You should try the one that is intended for your region.
SIM card is fine, works perfectly on other phones, and with a different SIM card the problem reoccurs. It's definitely a phone-side problem.
I bought this Explorer online in Italy, and I tried two RUUs from this page: http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?developer=Pico
The RUU_Pico_HTC_Europe_1.17.401.2_Radio_10.30.80.09H_1.10.80.13M2_release_221180 and the RUU_Pico_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_10.35d.80.09H_1.11.82.17_release_230964_signed.exe.
Same 131 error with both.
Again, thank you for your help. Very appreciated.
irvelmobile said:
SIM card is fine, works perfectly on other phones, and with a different SIM card the problem reoccurs. It's definitely a phone-side problem.
I bought this Explorer online in Italy, and I tried two RUUs from this page: http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?developer=Pico
The RUU_Pico_HTC_Europe_1.17.401.2_Radio_10.30.80.09H_1.10.80.13M2_release_221180 and the RUU_Pico_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_10.35d.80.09H_1.11.82.17_release_230964_signed.exe.
Same 131 error with both.
Again, thank you for your help. Very appreciated.
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As you bought the phone online, the existing baseband might be for a different region, and that could be the cause of your network problems. To run an RUU for your own region, you need to create a goldcard, which should be inserted into the phone before running the RUU
Here's a method for the HTC Desire:
http://droid-den.com/android-guides/android-guide-how-to-create-a-gold-card/
This should work on the Explorer as well. Give it a try and post the result.
Even if it doesn't work, it wont do any harm
I followed the instructions, created a goldcard, relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU again. Same 131 error. Should I do anything with the goldcard, aside from inserting it in the phone? How can I check if I created it properly?
Thank you.
irvelmobile said:
I followed the instructions, created a goldcard, relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU again. Same 131 error. Should I do anything with the goldcard, aside from inserting it in the phone? How can I check if I created it properly?
Thank you.
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Inserting the goldcard into phone is enough. Some SD cards do not work. Usually the higher capacity cards don't work but 1 GB/2GB cards work. Or the method might be different on the Explorer.
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Try this utility for creating goldcard:
http://199.91.154.123/iz432f9qjfdg/hdxoe6e5km434tb/SimpleGoldCard.rar
Use the smallest SD card available. Select MMC0 in step 3
No luck. Tried to do it again in the normal way and then with your utility. The SD is 2GB. I think the goldcard is correctly done, but both the RUUs listed above give me error 131. Did anyone out there use a goldcard to successfully restore a RUU on the Explorer?
Thank you Thomas anyway.. starting to feel sad
irvelmobile said:
No luck. Tried to do it again in the normal way and then with your utility. The SD is 2GB. I think the goldcard is correctly done, but both the RUUs listed above give me error 131. Did anyone out there use a goldcard to successfully restore a RUU on the Explorer?
Thank you Thomas anyway.. starting to feel sad
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Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
Choose "Phone information". Then press the menu button and choose "Select radio band" and try switching to "EURO Band"
I don't know whether this will work on stock ROM. Do this at your own risk! Some people have reported that they are unable to get any signal after this (but they were outside Europe and using some other device)
Have you tried using Ranguu's method to flash a RUU.
I'm also unable to find my RUU and want to flash a RUU of a different radio..
(Method: extract images from RUU, flash them, relock, run a RUU).
Does it work?
Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using xda app-developers app
Sorry I've been afk from a few days.
I've set the EURO band from the hidden menu, but it didn't change anything.
I've sorted out a thing: I can get signal back if I enable/disable plane mode, sometimes with a reboot, sometimes even without.
It really seems a weird problem, and I can't figure if it is a hw issue or a sw issue. The antenna seems working fine, but in the boot phase the phone sometimes enable it sometimes does not.
And no, I can't flash a RUU, if I extract the rom and try to flash it fastboot gives me signature errors. Signature errors appears even if I load it on the sdcard (renaming it the proper way) and try to flash it via the bootloader.
I really don't know what to try next...
Hi, new to the forums and completely perplexed by this rom root flashing stuff. I have tried following some guides but I'm just not sure that they are applicable in my circumstance:
Situation:
1. Complete technophobe sister came back from holiday complaining she needed a new battery for her Sensation as it just kept rebooting over and over.
2. This phone has NEVER been modded or flashed or god knows what. It was unlocked from its carrier (Vodafone) though by the previous owner. Bought in the UK.
3. I had another spare battery and used that. Same situation.
4. I started googling. Lots of people with similar situations but not identical. Key difference is that all of them have meddled with their devices FIRST and THEN got into this bootloop.
5. All the advice is therefore a few steps ahead of where I am and is leaving me confused and puzzles.
What the device can/can't do:
I can get to the Boot menu and navigate it
I cannot boot into Android proper as it were.
"Recovery" and "Factory Reset" both send the phone into its boot loop cycle.
Defining what I call a bootloop:
Goes to the blank white screen with HTC logo then off then rinse and repeat over and over.
What I have done:
I tired following some links from some of these threads and did a SuperCID??? (the thing where you go to cmd and do fastboot-reboot 11111111 or something similar) as all the threads kept complaining that the OP hadn't done this yet. This seemed to be successful but the instructions following then didn't seem to apply.
Other info you might need?
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.29A350418_M
OpenADSP-v)".6/0/2266.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012,17:33:34
I hope I have written all you need. Apologies if I have not.
theonetruewill said:
Hi, new to the forums and completely perplexed by this rom root flashing stuff. I have tried following some guides but I'm just not sure that they are applicable in my circumstance:
Situation:
1. Complete technophobe sister came back from holiday complaining she needed a new battery for her Sensation as it just kept rebooting over and over.
2. This phone has NEVER been modded or flashed or god knows what. It was unlocked from its carrier (Vodafone) though by the previous owner. Bought in the UK.
3. I had another spare battery and used that. Same situation.
4. I started googling. Lots of people with similar situations but not identical. Key difference is that all of them have meddled with their devices FIRST and THEN got into this bootloop.
5. All the advice is therefore a few steps ahead of where I am and is leaving me confused and puzzles.
What the device can/can't do:
I can get to the Boot menu and navigate it
I cannot boot into Android proper as it were.
"Recovery" and "Factory Reset" both send the phone into its boot loop cycle.
Defining what I call a bootloop:
Goes to the blank white screen with HTC logo then off then rinse and repeat over and over.
What I have done:
I tired following some links from some of these threads and did a SuperCID??? (the thing where you go to cmd and do fastboot-reboot 11111111 or something similar) as all the threads kept complaining that the OP hadn't done this yet. This seemed to be successful but the instructions following then didn't seem to apply.
Other info you might need?
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.29A350418_M
OpenADSP-v)".6/0/2266.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012,17:33:34
I hope I have written all you need. Apologies if I have not.
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You could try putting paper or cardboard between the battery and the back cover to keep snug and fit.
If that doesn't work, then I would try to run a ruu.exe to restore the phone to stock. Look here for ruu.exe: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26541170
Sent from my Ouya
AndroidSupporter318 said:
You could try putting paper or cardboard between the battery and the back cover to keep snug and fit.
If that doesn't work, then I would try to run a ruu.exe to restore the phone to stock. Look here for ruu.exe: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26541170
Sent from my Ouya
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I'd like to add just because you do not seem to be S-OFF, which means you don't have SuperCID, pick an RUU based on your device's CID, else it will not work. check what your CID is and pick the RUU compatible with it. It should be what the phone came with (same region and carrier).
I believe RUU should fix this issue, so you should definitely try that. SuperCID cannot be achieved while S-ON, but it doesn't really matter in your situation (unless you can't find the appropriate RUU).
astar26 said:
I'd like to add just because you do not seem to be S-OFF, which means you don't have SuperCID, pick an RUU based on your device's CID, else it will not work. check what your CID is and pick the RUU compatible with it. It should be what the phone came with (same region and carrier).
I believe RUU should fix this issue, so you should definitely try that. SuperCID cannot be achieved while S-ON, but it doesn't really matter in your situation (unless you can't find the appropriate RUU).
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Some phones do have superCID with s-on. Iv seen it with the htc desire / s
jmcclue said:
Some phones do have superCID with s-on. Iv seen it with the htc desire / s
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Anyway, checking the CID before doing anything should be good, just to be safe. And at least as far as I know, it's only possible to achieve SuperCID while S-OFF (possible to S-ON later, but to achieve you must have S-OFF at the time). But this doesn't matter to the problem at hand.
astar26 said:
Anyway, checking the CID before doing anything should be good, just to be safe. And at least as far as I know, it's only possible to achieve SuperCID while S-OFF (possible to S-ON later, but to achieve you must have S-OFF at the time). But this doesn't matter to the problem at hand.
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I have put card in-between this to keep it secure before on a trial and error when it was having connection issues. It is not this that is the problem. Thank you for your input though.
astar26 said:
Anyway, checking the CID before doing anything should be good, just to be safe. And at least as far as I know, it's only possible to achieve SuperCID while S-OFF (possible to S-ON later, but to achieve you must have S-OFF at the time). But this doesn't matter to the problem at hand.
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How do I do this. Please bear in mind I have not rooted etc before. I performed Step 4 of this guide before and that is why I believed I had done this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
I'd like to add just because you do not seem to be S-OFF, which means you don't have SuperCID, pick an RUU based on your device's CID, else it will not work. check what your CID is and pick the RUU compatible with it. It should be what the phone came with (same region and carrier).
I believe RUU should fix this issue, so you should definitely try that. SuperCID cannot be achieved while S-ON, but it doesn't really matter in your situation (unless you can't find the appropriate RUU).
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This is where I got confused and started to seek assistance. I have no idea what my CID is or really how to use an RUU or what one to pick. It was a UK Vodafone handset but I don't know how this corresponds to anything or what to do about it.
AndroidSupporter318 said:
...If that doesn't work, then I would try to run a ruu.exe to restore the phone to stock. Look here for ruu.exe: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26541170
Sent from my Ouya
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When I do (and did before) step 3 I just get a list of commands and no current software version showing. This was exactly when I came here. I thus went no further as what I had did not correspond.
If you got your device from UK vodaphone then this should be your RUU (got it from RUU thread in Sensation Development).
if you want to check CID (you need adb and fastboot with device drivers on your computers, I'll explain in short (and assume you have the tools)):
connect phone to computer with USB debugging enabled
-adb reboot bootloader
when bootloader starts, run this:
-"fastboot getvar cid"
this will give you the CID your device has.
astar26 said:
If you got your device from UK vodaphone then this should be your RUU (got it from RUU thread in Sensation Development).
if you want to check CID (you need adb and fastboot with device drivers on your computers, I'll explain in short (and assume you have the tools)):
connect phone to computer with USB debugging enabled
-adb reboot bootloader
when bootloader starts, run this:
-"fastboot getvar cid"
this will give you the CID your device has.
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I just get a series of commands and what they do. I don't get anything else. I can also not check if USB debugging is enabled as the phone wont turn on to turn it on.
jmcclue said:
Some phones do have superCID with s-on. Iv seen it with the htc desire / s
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in the sensation forums no one reported that he had supercid while on S-ON
theonetruewill said:
I just get a series of commands and what they do. I don't get anything else. I can also not check if USB debugging is enabled as the phone wont turn on to turn it on.
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open the cmd window in the folder where you have adb and fastboot files and perform there the command
also make sure that in hboot screen it shows fastboot usb
rzr86 said:
in the sensation forums no one reported that he had supercid while on S-ON
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Hi. Maybe no one has reported it but u can have supercid with s-on, and i dont mean by going s-off first. It is very rare tho, like if u work for lets say vodafone then u can get a stock s-on phone with supercid. For development r something i think. But like i said, its very rare that us general public get our hands on them. But it is possible
Got it to show my cid. Error when flashing the rom using the executable file. Will try again when back from work
Getting stuck at step 4.2/4.3 of this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26541170). The archive is always corrupt and thus changes cannot be made to the text file. I can't do 4.3 because it says error not correct id (ERROR [130]: MODEL ID ERROR)and it directs back to 4.2. Any suggestions?
I have also tried HTCs own flash update (https://support.htc.com/en-us/HTC_S..._Updates/Software_Update_for_HTC_Sensation_4G) this also fails to work for exactly the same reasons.
theonetruewill said:
Getting stuck at step 4.2/4.3 of this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26541170). The archive is always corrupt and thus changes cannot be made to the text file. I can't do 4.3 because it says error not correct id (ERROR [130]: MODEL ID ERROR)and it directs back to 4.2. Any suggestions?
I have also tried HTCs own flash update (https://support.htc.com/en-us/HTC_S..._Updates/Software_Update_for_HTC_Sensation_4G) this also fails to work for exactly the same reasons.
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maybe you used an RUU of SE when you are not (or otherwise, regular for XE). beside CID, there is MID. the procedure of adding your MID and checking the MID is similiar to the CID.
MID indicates your model - in this case mainly three are possible: one for regular sensation, one for XE, and one for 4G.
theonetruewill said:
Getting stuck at step 4.2/4.3 of this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26541170). The archive is always corrupt and thus changes cannot be made to the text file. I can't do 4.3 because it says error not correct id (ERROR [130]: MODEL ID ERROR)and it directs back to 4.2. Any suggestions?
I have also tried HTCs own flash update (https://support.htc.com/en-us/HTC_S..._Updates/Software_Update_for_HTC_Sensation_4G) this also fails to work for exactly the same reasons.
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when you are trying to add your cid to the text file don't extract it
just open it as it is,add your cid and then save it
rzr86 said:
when you are trying to add your cid to the text file don't extract it
just open it as it is,add your cid and then save it
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I am doing this. The zipped folder is unable to be opened in windows explorer (opened not extracted) as it says it is not valid. I then tried to use winrar to open it (not extract it) This worked. However when I attempt to save the modifications it says archive corrupt and unable to save.
I can't even do the S-OFF then Super CID thing because my HBOOT (1.27.0000) isn't listed here..... http://revolutionary.io
Managed to get a RUUto flash to it - http://freakshare.com/files/gt7345y....23.3504.07_M2_release_251541_signed.exe.html
Unfortunately this has not fixed the problem. I suspect this may be terminal. Any suggestions?
HI there guys, I have the phone in my hands now.
Will is one of my close friends and I plan to get it back alive.
I'll try and look around and post questions here, as I'm not familiar with HTC devices.
I've flashed god knows how many Samsung's and helped quite a few hundred thousand people with flashing via ODIN.
To me: The phone seems locked, and stuck in a bootloop.
Wiping doesn't resolve the issue, nor does trying to flash another firmware as it comes with errors.
theonetruewill said:
I can't even do the S-OFF then Super CID thing because my HBOOT (1.27.0000) isn't listed here..... http://revolutionary.io
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with that hboot version you can only use juopunutbear method to S-OFF the device
try to unlock the bootloader via htcdev site
flash a custom recovery(i suggest 4ext)
flash a custom rom from recovery(before flashing enable smartflash from 4ext)
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TotallydubbedHD said:
HI there guys, I have the phone in my hands now.
Will is one of my close friends and I plan to get it back alive.
I'll try and look around and post questions here, as I'm not familiar with HTC devices.
I've flashed god knows how many Samsung's and helped quite a few hundred thousand people with flashing via ODIN.
To me: The phone seems locked, and stuck in a bootloop.
Wiping doesn't resolve the issue, nor does trying to flash another firmware as it comes with errors.
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post your bootloader details and what exactly did you do ?
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theonetruewill said:
I am doing this. The zipped folder is unable to be opened in windows explorer (opened not extracted) as it says it is not valid. I then tried to use winrar to open it (not extract it) This worked. However when I attempt to save the modifications it says archive corrupt and unable to save.
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do it with notepad++