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Collin_ph here. I've been working for literally months trying to get my battery tweak on the android market. The problem is that I don't do front end java development.. or should I say, I never have done it before. I have 2 full time jobs as a developer and a business owner and really don't have time to learn another language and framework. I'd LOVE to work with someone who A. is Experienced, and B. Has the time to work on something like this.
The next version really is going to be great, I just think it's time to get it on the marketplace so it's compatible with more than just certain ROMS on the Hero. I know it's technically possible.. I know the ins and outs of making it work, I'm just way behind on making a pure android app. If anyone really really wants to help, let me know. I'm wanting to make a profitable app on the market, and I want someone who'll share in the vision and the profits. There'll always be a free version, especially for XDA users. If you're interested, please PM me. This will make 3 times I'll be starting over because developers don't really have time to work on the project. If you're like me, you know this has potential.
Let's do it
collin_ph, will there be a shell script version of new battery tweak too, yes?
i think shell script is efficient and stable enough for me and i don't want to install an android java app.
love your tweak!!
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Collin_ph here. I've been working for literally months trying to get my battery tweak on the android market. The problem is that I don't do front end java development.. or should I say, I never have done it before. I have 2 full time jobs as a developer and a business owner and really don't have time to learn another language and framework. I'd LOVE to work with someone who A. is Experienced, and B. Has the time to work on something like this.
The next version really is going to be great, I just think it's time to get it on the marketplace so it's compatible with more than just certain ROMS on the Hero. I know it's technically possible.. I know the ins and outs of making it work, I'm just way behind on making a pure android app. If anyone really really wants to help, let me know. I'm wanting to make a profitable app on the market, and I want someone who'll share in the vision and the profits. There'll always be a free version, especially for XDA users. If you're interested, please PM me. This will make 3 times I'll be starting over because developers don't really have time to work on the project. If you're like me, you know this has potential.
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Let's do it
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LOL, with JM throwing his hat in the ring, you KNOW you're gonna have a winner!
A huge thanks to both of you guys!
In the long run, I really don't have any plans to continue the shell version. There are a lot of misconceptions about the shell version-- a lot of people think that there is no process that continues running, however, there is. I have a plan to have a very similar setup with the java version that should still have a small cpu and memory footprint.. possibly even smaller CPU usage as the Java version can be event based rather than timer based. Anyway, just know that I will do whatever possible to make the program fulfill its need the best and most efficient way possible. With Java, we can be usable on more than just a hero without having to port it every time, we can run on different roms without porting, we'll be able to run more things event based and remove most of the timer based things (if not all), and lastly, we'll be able to do things that we weren't able to do in shell. I'm excited for the new version, but as always, it's job is to make the phone faster and give it better battery performance. The new version will most likely be called "tweak tool", as Battery optimization will be only one of its functions, but the most important.
Anyway, after Easter, I'll be sitting down and going over a plan for the new version (once more). Hopefully we'll get a full blown launch out of this attempt.
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With Java, we can be usable on more than just a hero without having to port it every time
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I say Hooah!!
Haha. I'm excitied. Hopefully you two will join together. This is gonna be outstanding! Ha. Yea I know I'll shut up.
I'll have to learn how to write Android apps. Already know Java.
Can't be that hard after modifying Android source, right?
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I'll have to learn how to write Android apps. Already know Java.
Can't be that hard after modifying Android source, right?
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If you set up Eclipse, there is a lot of help/examples available. App Inventor is another tool that might be an option, perhaps less flexibility, but a "block" oriented approach that does a lot of the work for you.
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If you set up Eclipse, there is a lot of help/examples available. App Inventor is another tool that might be an option, perhaps less flexibility, but a "block" oriented approach that does a lot of the work for you.
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I've tried appinventor and as a developer, it feels totally bass ackwards. I'm no java developer, but I've already put together a couple of tests in eclipse, which is the direction I want to go-- especially since I'll be doing everything in my power to make sure it's optimized.
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I'll have to learn how to write Android apps. Already know Java.
Can't be that hard after modifying Android source, right?
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Holy crap, if you AND jaybob are going to help collin_ph, this app is as good as gold. You two are by far two of the most dedicated and steadfast devs I've ever known on XDA.
Excited to see what comes out of this, happily willing to buy any app that comes out of it as support
Ok guys, it's been brought to my attention that my post was
1. Cantankerous.
2. Seemingly disrespectful of devs great work on here.
3. Taken too seriously for being an internet forum.
I would like to say sorry, and explain what I mean I tihnk it would be awesome to pull together the necessary funding for our very talented developers to create an XDA exclusive, completely original ROM. I'm not sure if it is possible, but something that is just for the Thunderbolt alone and isn't sense, isn't AOSP, isn't MIUI, and DEFINITELY not like Motorboat... I mean Motorblur. I think we really are on to something with the work that the Dev's are doing with taking different roms and porting them/using other roms as bases and then building from them; lets see what we can do to completely change the way that this stuff is done(if possible) by polling ideas(not unreasonable wishlists) and putting it all together. Possibly coordinating between Team BAMF, Chingy, and some other the other recognized DEV's.
What does everyone else think?
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I'm not sure if it is possible, but something that is just for the Thunderbolt alone and isn't sense, isn't AOSP, isn't MIUI, and DEFINITELY not like Motorboat...
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If it isn't sense/blur/touchwiz, it is AOSP. Miui is just modified AOSP (with no sources given back), just like all the other roms not sense/blur/touchwiz are also based on AOSP. You do know what AOSP means right? Android Open Source Project as in the android operation system that is the basis to all android phones just modded by the OEMs. What you're asking is similar to saying:
"Hey, I'm bored with linux, unix, osx and windows, can we make a new operating system totally not based on any of those for our computers?"
Perhaps rephrase your question one more time in a way that makes more sense? Third time is a winner
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If it isn't sense/blur/touchwiz, it is AOSP. Miui is just modified AOSP (with no sources given back), just like all the other roms not sense/blur/touchwiz are also based on AOSP. You do know what AOSP means right? Android Open Source Project as in the android operation system that is the basis to all android phones just modded by the OEMs. What you're asking is similar to saying:
"Hey, I'm bored with linux, unix, osx and windows, can we make a new operating system totally not based on any of those for our computers?"
Perhaps rephrase your question one more time in a way that makes more sense? Third time is a winner
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Ya got a point, I actually didn't know that! BUT, regardless of how its phrased, what do ya think it would require to do somethig like I mentioned? I, personally would love to see something excitingly new put out here. Like with the miui project, any chance of people putting their heads together to figure it out?
You've got OS's and you have UI's. Obviously it is entirely possible to custom build a UI, but its FAR more difficult than porting one over or mixing and mashing parts of Sense together. UberBAMF is definitely something new and out of the box. That's more radical than anything I ever expected... Or have ever seen elsewhere. UIs do a lot to sell a device, so its worth it for HTC or Samsung to invest in building one. Not so much for a team of volunteer devs.
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Ya got a point, I actually didn't know that! BUT, regardless of how its phrased, what do ya think it would require to do somethig like I mentioned? I, personally would love to see something excitingly new put out here. Like with the miui project, any chance of people putting their heads together to figure it out?
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Chances are unlikely to get a new user interface geared to only one phone built from the ground up from the android source by a team for a few reasons:
1) Lack of like-minded (knowledgeable) developers for one device that are currently free. Developers are very opinionated (just from my own experience even if they don't want to admit it). What should/shouldn't go into it would be a mess to deal with and debate alone, especially since the opinions of developers are generally not the same as those that don't develop. The ones already developing most likely don't want to give up their current projects as well. Basically, the developers that want to develop already have their projects and most treat them like it's their "baby" and most likely not willing to give them up or put them on hold. That moves into issue #2
2) Time. It would take considerable amount of time and organization to do that. Probably to get something stable that's original would take longer than most people would keep their Thunderbolt. Guys that work on their phones do this part time for fun as well and that combined with other side projects would press for time.
3) True developers & designers. There's a big difference between hacking some already made stuff to work with things and actually writing object oriented software from scratch. Obviously some guys putting stuff out for the thunderbolt are true developers that code professionally and others are just hacking around making things work done by others. Both have their uses, but you need real development for something like this and I don't think there's enough of those willing.
Forgot to add that the only way change happens is to build interest, so don't let my pessimistic observations detour anyone from posting their thoughts and ideas in this thread
So exciting
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...rnel-source-code-including-that-of-the-one-v/
EDIT: http://dl4.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/doubleshot-gb-crc-2.6.35-f3a1982.tar.gz
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ac3theone said:
so exciting
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...rnel-source-code-including-that-of-the-one-v/
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yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssss
Soo.... Does anyone think we could see some pure AOSP action now? Or someone could update the kernel for CM7? As you will see in general someone -whom I suspect is not alone - would love an AOSP ROM on our HTC Doubleshot.
Maybe this kernel isn't that good as we suppose...
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Maybe this kernel isn't that good as we suppose...
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Well.... What did u expect? we don't have an ICS ROM in our future that we have been made aware of, and it is truly great news as this is something that has made many a dev stray away from this device - now we might be able to get CM7 stable - and others to work off of CM7 such as blahblah
Good news nevertheless
We need to get CM7 STABLE ASAP
We may be late in the running, but that doesn't mean we still can't get merged into the main tree
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Maybe this kernel isn't that good as we suppose...
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Its worse than you thought... The source code was released a really long time ago. This is just an updated kernel, so the real reason for lack of development isn't because the source code wasn't available. :/
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Its worse than you thought... The source code was released a really long time ago. This is just an updated kernel, so the real reason for lack of development isn't because the source code wasn't available. :/
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Updated source is awesome though. Tried to get it earlier and couldn't - can't on shift and will be working straight until Friday afternoon so won't have a chance to try again for a few days.
Any percieved lack of development is due to people not putting any effort into it - everyone who cries about a lack of development should do something about it instead of waiting for someone else to do so.
Why come here if you don't want to get into dev, worse, come here and complain about yourself not doing anything? Kinda silly.
Whenever I see people complain about a lack of development I wonder why they would basically make fun of themselves? It gives me a laugh at their expense...
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Yeah i just got the source downloaded because it matches the new ota I'm running now, I've never seen what a dual core source looks like, or if I'll even be able to compile a kernel for this device, I've only compiled a few for the EVO shift, which was straight forward with a little help from my boy drob...who knows o may get it to boot ha-ha.......nope I fudged something in my toolchain It's broke....again.....LOL
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Yeah i just got the source downloaded because it matches the new ota I'm running now, I've never seen what a dual core source looks like, or if I'll even be able to compile a kernel for this device, I've only compiled a few for the EVO shift, which was straight forward with a little help from my boy drob...who knows o may get it to boot ha-ha
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62701184/arm-eabi-4.4.3.zip
That link is for the toolchain you need, i've been hosting it on dropbox for a while until I get it over to a more permanent host.
I can walk you through it later if you want.
I have it written up on how to set up your linux environment and make changes, including versioning instructions, just haven't found the time to polish off a part of it and add it to the dev reference yet.
Got a whole space reserved for the how to from start to finish on making kernels for the doubleshot, and i've already walked people through it with no kernel dev experience so if you've done it for another device it'll be a cakewalk.
I'm eating breakfast now and gotta run out to another job, and going straight from there to dodgeball practice, then work again tonight and from there right to the job i'm about to do again tomorrow this time, so tomorrow night i'm doubtless going to sleep - maybe as early as saturday evening I could go through it with you on IRC if you are interested.
Otherwise I hope to have that in the dev ref next week, work permitting.
Blue6IX said:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62701184/arm-eabi-4.4.3.zip
That link is for the toolchain you need, i've been hosting it on dropbox for a while until I get it over to a more permanent host.
I can walk you through it later if you want.
I have it written up on how to set up your linux environment and make changes, including versioning instructions, just haven't found the time to polish off a part of it and add it to the dev reference yet.
Got a whole space reserved for the how to from start to finish on making kernels for the doubleshot, and i've already walked people through it with no kernel dev experience so if you've done it for another device it'll be a cakewalk.
I'm eating breakfast now and gotta run out to another job, and going straight from there to dodgeball practice, then work again tonight and from there right to the job i'm about to do again tomorrow this time, so tomorrow night i'm doubtless going to sleep - maybe as early as saturday evening I could go through it with you on IRC if you are interested.
Otherwise I hope to have that in the dev ref next week, work permitting.
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I might have my little one on Saturday night so that maybe a no go for then, the tool chain I currently have is 4.4.1, because anything newer for the speedy breaks a ton during the compile.....I changed some commands around for ****s and giggles and got a zimage in arch/arm/boot so I split it with the ota ramdisk and I'm just gonna try....if that goes south I'll setup your tool chain....thanks blue your like the DoubleShot dictionary....
Also I'm gonna grab one of your kernel zips for test flashes if that's ok
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Blue6IX said:
Updated source is awesome though. Tried to get it earlier and couldn't - can't on shift and will be working straight until Friday afternoon so won't have a chance to try again for a few days.
Any percieved lack of development is due to people not putting any effort into it - everyone who cries about a lack of development should do something about it instead of waiting for someone else to do so.
Why come here if you don't want to get into dev, worse, come here and complain about yourself not doing anything? Kinda silly.
Whenever I see people complain about a lack of development I wonder why they would basically make fun of themselves? It gives me a laugh at their expense...
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Hey I'm not complaining, and I am working on it! I just have to balance between school and work and learning how to build cm7/cm9 from source.
You can check out a little bit of what I've been working on github.com/mafischer
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Hey I'm not complaining, and I am working on it! I just have to balance between school and work and learning how to build cm7/cm9 from source.
You can check out a little bit of what I've been working on github.com/mafischer
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Lol no worries my friend, was a general comment and not aimed at you in particular, just a perspective I wanted to put out there and you were the first opportunity to do so.
I still haven't found the time to get git set up and learn how to use it - that whole life getting in the way of living thing. Given you have git going that makes you a more responsible dev then I in my book -
@ strapped: all my work available is a contribution to the open source community at large, and the members of XDA in particular. If any of it can be useful, especially as a teaching tool, I wholeheartedly encourage it!
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Where did all of you come from?
Never knew there was this many people working on the Doubleshot in the background...
gtmaster303 said:
Where did all of you come from?
Never knew there was this many people working on the Doubleshot in the background...
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I've been here since i preordered my doubleshot... I just haven't had time to work on much of anything, so there's no point in advertising to the community that I'm gonna work on things that may or may not ever get finished. I don't want to spread false hope or anything.
I am however, graduating in may; I'm going to be working over at walmart isd for a summer internship, and I should have more time on my hands once school is over!
How integrated is the Sense stuff into the kernel? As I understand it, we've had trouble removing the Sense underpinnings from the operating system to get it working with things such as Sixaxis. I'm aware that this is entirely a lack of understanding on my part.
I would quite love to get involved in building a ROM myself, perhaps even setting up CM9 from scratch. I just have no idea how to get started. I've mucked around with custom kernels and embedded linux (not android) devices in the past, but I'm not sure how that knowledge would apply to this system. I also have no history of proper programming languages or anything like that. I'm vaguely familiar with how to compile things with the ARM toolchains.
I'm also a tad nervous about bricking the device by writing to a memory location that I really shouldn't be touching.
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How integrated is the Sense stuff into the kernel? As I understand it, we've had trouble removing the Sense underpinnings from the operating system to get it working with things such as Sixaxis. I'm aware that this is entirely a lack of understanding on my part.
I would quite love to get involved in building a ROM myself, perhaps even setting up CM9 from scratch. I just have no idea how to get started. I've mucked around with custom kernels and embedded linux (not android) devices in the past, but I'm not sure how that knowledge would apply to this system. I also have no history of proper programming languages or anything like that. I'm vaguely familiar with how to compile things with the ARM toolchains.
I'm also a tad nervous about bricking the device by writing to a memory location that I really shouldn't be touching.
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Sorry for quoting the whole post just to address one thing, but in regards to sixaxis I'm sure it's a safe bet that if one were to simply replace the stock bluetooth stack with the one kornyone used for cm7 in my bulletproof rom it would work fine, and I doubt much other, if any modification would be necessary.
I haven't had time to try, and truthfully i'd rather build my own so am kinda intentionally not trying - I am more interested in the project then just jumping into a solution.
It really depends on what you are trying to do - some sense things can be replaced with relatively little effort, other things are so interwoven it would take considerable effort and time to unravel, reverse engineer and implement a new solution.
A lot of people have been working on different parts of unravelling sense since back in august, and around the middle of that month we got s-off and really started digging in.
There is a considerable knowledge base lurking here to address this kind of stuff if people make it known they are working on things - dig back through the history of the device here at XDA and you can catch a glimpse of it and get some direction on who you can approach when you hit a roadblock, depending on what kind of roadblock it is.
It's better for us as a community to have that kind of knowledge out on the public forum, but there's much more here then what face value suggests.
I've been trying to get that kind of stuff and a general 'start here' knowledge base built in the developers reference stickied here in dev, reading through that would be a good place to start getting oriented on devving for the dubleshot.
I just go through some crazy work cycles and sometimes can't be around much for a time here and ther, so my contributions come in groups and gaps.
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I've been here since i preordered my doubleshot... I just haven't had time to work on much of anything, so there's no point in advertising to the community that I'm gonna work on things that may or may not ever get finished. I don't want to spread false hope or anything.
I am however, graduating in may; I'm going to be working over at walmart isd for a summer internship, and I should have more time on my hands once school is over!
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It doesn't matter whether or not you finish. Status updates would be nice though. At least that way people can know what you're up to, and they may even be able to help you and vice versa.
No one here is demanding an ETA or even a completion at all. We're all in for the fun of it.
Either way I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say, we're excited to see what you got cooking
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Sorry for quoting the whole post just to address one thing, but in regards to sixaxis I'm sure it's a safe bet that if one were to simply replace the stock bluetooth stack with the one kornyone used for cm7 in my bulletproof rom it would work fine, and I doubt much other, if any modification would be necessary.
I haven't had time to try, and truthfully i'd rather build my own so am kinda intentionally not trying - I am more interested in the project then just jumping into a solution.
It really depends on what you are trying to do - some sense things can be replaced with relatively little effort, other things are so interwoven it would take considerable effort and time to unravel, reverse engineer and implement a new solution.
A lot of people have been working on different parts of unravelling sense since back in august, and around the middle of that month we got s-off and really started digging in.
There is a considerable knowledge base lurking here to address this kind of stuff if people make it known they are working on things - dig back through the history of the device here at XDA and you can catch a glimpse of it and get some direction on who you can approach when you hit a roadblock, depending on what kind of roadblock it is.
It's better for us as a community to have that kind of knowledge out on the public forum, but there's much more here then what face value suggests.
I've been trying to get that kind of stuff and a general 'start here' knowledge base built in the developers reference stickied here in dev, reading through that would be a good place to start getting oriented on devving for the dubleshot.
I just go through some crazy work cycles and sometimes can't be around much for a time here and ther, so my contributions come in groups and gaps.
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I've been trying to go through the dev reference that you posted and track down as much scattered information as I can, but I'm still not quite sure what I'm doing. Alas.
Regarding bluetooth: would the gingerbread stack be compatible with ICS?
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It doesn't matter whether or not you finish. Status updates would be nice though. At least that way people can know what you're up to, and they may even be able to help you and vice versa.
No one here is demanding an ETA or even a completion at all. We're all in for the fun of it.
Either way I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say, we're excited to see what you got cooking
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Well what I'm currently up to is making a stable version of cm7 for the doubleshot. I have made lots of progress as far as learning all the tools necessary to compile android from source, which is a relatively simple task. The not so simple part is trying to put together like a puzzle, the source code from other devices. I've hit some roadblocks and I'm currently asking some devs for help, but while I'm at it I guess I can ask for help here on xda.
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Well what I'm currently up to is making a stable version of cm7 for the doubleshot.
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Yeehaaa!
http://crna.cc/magenta.html
Magenta is an implementation of Darwin/BSD on top of the Linux kernel. It is made
up of a number of kernel and userland components that work together. It is fully binary
compatible with iPhone OS 5.0 (as in, it uses the same binary format).
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I am now chatting with the dev on IRC. I want to know if anyone is interested in this, so i know if i will continue the porting or not.
First we need to build the kernel, so we need a kernel dev. There's a DIFF that needs to be applied.
The files are here: http://crna.cc/magenta_source.html
What do you think? Also remember THIS IS A DEV TOPIC, so no asking for ETA & stuff. Nagging will result in locking the topic and discontinuing this.
EDIT: Remember, this has nothing to do with Apple. Everything is Open-Source, so we have the stability of C instead of Java, but also the openness of Android!
Edit 2: Looks like there aren't many devs interested about this, and also there would be no advantages. You can't run Android Apps, nor iOS apps...
What good points will this release have besides compability with iOS apps ?
Not just the "look like android", it can still have a android look but iOS compability, that sure opens a wide horizon. Cross platform apps. It's awesome i think.
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Not just the "look like android", it can still have a android look but iOS compability, that sure opens a wide horizon. Cross platform apps. It's awesome i think.
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It won't run iOS apps.. below was mentioned on project website
" to make it myself). * Will it run iPhone OS apps? * No, because I'm not aiming to have compatible high level frameworks. Just think about how much work is required to have a 100% compatible implementation of UIKit or Celestial. HOWEVER, the CoreOS part should be 100% (or 99%) compatible. Just not the higher level OS. If you're just interested in this because it will "run iOS apps" please go away."
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I can contribute, maybe even run the thing (no promises, in my spare time, won't support it just drop the thing for you, I'm busy next few days though)
Still working on kernel 3.0
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This has nothing to do with iOS' lockdown. It is as open and as free as Android.
In Layman terms; does this mean magenta just runs Android on C and not Java meaning more efficient execution of tasks?
So is it just a ios themed rom, or does it actually have some of the real advances from the ios?
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I'd be willing to dev, but I'm afraid I don't have too much experience.
I know my way around C++ and Python, and I can do Hello World in C. I can read most code though.
It's funny to see people excited with this when they don't know what benefits this development will actually bring :b
I'm not against this at all, please don't take this the wrong way, but to invest in such kind of development you need to have benefits, so, what are they ?
like to contribute
I would like to contribute on development.I know Objective C, worked on few Iphone Apps.
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http://crna.cc/magenta.html
I am now chatting with the dev on IRC. I want to know if anyone is interested in this, so i know if i will continue the porting or not.
First we need to build the kernel, so we need a kernel dev. There's a DIFF that needs to be applied.
The files are here: http://crna.cc/magenta_source.html
What do you think? Also remember THIS IS A DEV TOPIC, so no asking for ETA & stuff. Nagging will result in locking the topic and discontinuing this.
EDIT: Remember, this has nothing to do with Apple. Everything is Open-Source, so we have the stability of C instead of Java, but also the openness of Android!
Edit 2: Looks like there aren't many devs interested about this, and also there would be no advantages. You can't run Android Apps, nor iOS apps...
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the most (and only - for me- ) interesting side of this project is having the stability of C instead of Java. Android will be stunning and awesome if it get over java. but iOS like !! nah.
and good luck with that cuz there is people who want it and seems excited about it :highfive:
I'm willing to help, will be getting my uart cable soon.
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the most (and only - for me- ) interesting side of this project is having the stability of C instead of Java. Android will be stunning and awesome if it get over java.
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You can easily develop for Android using C (Google NDK). What preventing YOU from doing it? But generally that is terrible idea unless someone have got tons of already written code that is too costly/time consuming to port/rewrite. And it is awful idea because it defy purpose of Java compatibility. We got phones out there that are running Android on top of x86/MIPS processors. And thous phones have no problem running absolute majority of Android applications. Plus few startups are developing new processor architectures, because Android would let them access huge software library transparently. And that is fundamental idea behind Android, let OS run on any processor, current or future one, with application developers having no need to port or even recompile their code for new architectures/processor models.
My friend is very intrested in this he is a programmer in c and c++ and c#
Thread closed per OP request, as development has stopped for good on this project.
So the big release is tomorrow for the Ubuntu for phone release for the GNexus and N4.... Anyone planning on porting this for us? I would really love to have Ubuntu on my phone as I can run my 3d printer software on my phone instead of buying another laptop for the garage. I am real excited about the Ubuntu phone though I wish we had a x86 cpu so we could run wine. Speaking of wine...... they are developing it for Android though it seems it is about a year away.
Would it be possible to create a dual boot Android/Ubuntu like the HD2 or are we too short on internal storage?
Wow, don't want much?? I am sure when it is released and we have a chance to see it we may be able to port it.. Until then enjoy what we have...
Oh count on a nice donation if we get Ubuntu working. Double that for a dual boot. I had Ubuntu on my old Glacier but I cant seem to get it to work well with the Blaze. I should of noted it wasnt a free request
Release date's were issued today
Images and open source code for the Touch Developer Preview of Ubuntu will be published on Thursday 21st February, supporting the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 smartphones. But more important than the release of two pre-compiled images will be a mass of un-compiled code. On the same day that Nexus owners face an ‘Android of Shiny New Preview’ dilemma, the Ubuntu Phone source code will also be made available.
This ‘milestone’ will be significant for the Ubuntu Phone project as it will mark the first that developers can dive in to the code. As an open-source project, devs will able to fix, refine and add features, as well as port it to run on other devices
Great! Well my offer is still there, put me down for $20 at least for a decent working port for the first dev/team to do it. We got some great devs here, I know it wont take too long.
Honestly man, no one is going to care that you have a $20 sitting there waiting to maybe be thrown into a developer's donate box in the future. Fact of the matter is, people that do stuff for phones do it because they like to do it. Their little donation button has nothing to do with giving them incentive to do anything, it's that they would be willing to spend more time working on a device, but it really is much easier to do with the device in hand.
Then you have the simple obvious fact that porting things takes a lot of work...the donate buttons there are to help a dev recover costs, and as often jokingly said, "Buy them a beer"....that's about it.
Say what you will about the absurdity of asking if Ubuntu will be ported to the Blaze, before the OS is even available to anyone, but to say, "I got money, I got money, I got money!" probably just comes off as a little insulting.
Maybe insulting is a bit excessive, but annoying surely fits.
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Honestly man, no one is going to care that you have a $20 sitting there waiting to maybe be thrown into a developer's donate box in the future. Fact of the matter is, people that do stuff for phones do it because they like to do it. Their little donation button has nothing to do with giving them incentive to do anything, it's that they would be willing to spend more time working on a device, but it really is much easier to do with the device in hand.
Then you have the simple obvious fact that porting things takes a lot of work...the donate buttons there are to help a dev recover costs, and as often jokingly said, "Buy them a beer"....that's about it.
Say what you will about the absurdity of asking if Ubuntu will be ported to the Blaze, before the OS is even available to anyone, but to say, "I got money, I got money, I got money!" probably just comes off as a little insulting.
Maybe insulting is a bit excessive, but annoying surely fits.
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Dude, did you really just scold somebody for wanting to donate? Wow... Don't take it personal, but you should have let that one go. He didn't hurt or insult you or anyone for that matter. Let em spend his money where he wants. Now let's keep it clean and play nice.
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Honestly man, no one is going to care that you have a $20 sitting there waiting to maybe be thrown into a developer's donate box in the future. Fact of the matter is, people that do stuff for phones do it because they like to do it. Their little donation button has nothing to do with giving them incentive to do anything, it's that they would be willing to spend more time working on a device, but it really is much easier to do with the device in hand.
Then you have the simple obvious fact that porting things takes a lot of work...the donate buttons there are to help a dev recover costs, and as often jokingly said, "Buy them a beer"....that's about it.
Say what you will about the absurdity of asking if Ubuntu will be ported to the Blaze, before the OS is even available to anyone, but to say, "I got money, I got money, I got money!" probably just comes off as a little insulting.
Maybe insulting is a bit excessive, but annoying surely fits.
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Wow, man calm down. the money is just to show the developer how much they mean to community. To show the support or a way to build up hope for hard ideas to come to life. He's not waiving the money like he's trying to buy their work, just showing how much he cares.
On Friday, 22nd February we are going to take the wraps off the Ubuntu Touch Porting Guide, which will go into detail how Ubuntu Touch can be ported to other devices.
This will be a great way to get involved and get Ubuntu onto all kinds of devices.
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On Friday, 22nd February we are going to take the wraps off the Ubuntu Touch Porting Guide, which will go into detail how Ubuntu Touch can be ported to other devices.
This will be a great way to get involved and get Ubuntu onto all kinds of devices.
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Thanks Racing19969, I am very grateful for your enthusiasm to get this rolling. You have been such a big help here lately and I thank you a lot for it. Please PM me if you need a tester or any help. I'll make sure and send you some 3d printed stuff for your phone next month btw, do you have another phone besides the Blaze? I might be able to make something for it too....
Downloading source for ubuntu phone now ... porting guide is up and will hopefully have something to report by the end of the day... It's probably going to be an uphill battle as ubuntu phone is based off cm10.1 and we still do not have a working kernel for 10.1..
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Downloading source for ubuntu phone now ... porting guide is up and will hopefully have something to report by the end of the day... It's probably going to be an uphill battle as ubuntu phone is based off cm10.1 and we still do not have a working kernel for 10.1..
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WOW holy crap you are fast! Its ok, I'm down to wait, I'm just happy someone was interested in the project. Also more good news today, my printer is set to arrive Monday or Tuesday which is about 4 weeks early!! I emailed Samsung but they wont provide me with a render of our phone I just started a new job so hopefully I have some extra time to model up our phone to put on thingiverse soon. If not I might look into hiring someone to model our phone so we can get some 3d printed accessories.
Good luck man... I hope you success
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/02...-off-25-additional-devices-now-supported.html
Here's some good news idk if it'll help racing but just read it maybe u can try to look at some other phones port and it'll help
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If any others are interested all you have to do is go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices to see what devices are being worked on..
porting information can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
We are going to be stuck though until we can get a working kernel for cm10.1 as ubuntu for phone is based off of it...
Until then I have left this alone.. We really need a Kernel Dev here to figure out our issue.. I have been working on it for weeks trying to figure it out.
I know it has to do with the ramdisk and how 4.2.2 stores and looks at the files...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168536
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T769 using xda app-developers app
Could this be used to complete the ubuntu port? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108958
Even if the port was not very functional.