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How hard is creating a kernel for this device?

So I am fed up with T-Mobile and Samsung not releasing a ics update for this phone. I wan't to try the new features like facelock and android beam ( really helpful). Well can we start from scratch also is there a guide to do that? It would be really awesome if someone posted a link for it.

Well I'm not sure what you are asking but are you saying if we can do a ICS kernel without source? Yes it's possible if we use the s2 source but with heavy modifications to run on our phone. Doubt there is a guide for it anywhere, though if you have an understanding of Linux kernels and a few languages like C, C++ and Java you can help us get there.
Another way we can get cm9 or any ics varient we can modify our current 2.6.35.11+ kernel to make it run cm9.
I suggest or rather think the easiest way is the waiting way because by the time you or I or anyone gets anything close to a working build the source will drop. This would be a good idea if the blaze wasn't getting ICS at all but it is.
So for now lets enjoy GB a little more I got a rom update uploading and dwitherell is also updating his awesome rom
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Okay still love the darknight rom although holo launcher gets somewhat laggy sometimes.. but is there a guide for modifying the kernel to create cm9? any help would be appreciated.

theprogram1 said:
Okay still love the darknight rom although holo launcher gets somewhat laggy sometimes.. but is there a guide for modifying the kernel to create cm9? any help would be appreciated.
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Well i just release build8 and no more holo launcher
As for a guide, there isn't one. There's guides on how to make your own kernel from the source drop and the initramfs from a stock rom but to modify the 2.6.35.11(gb) kernel to work with cm9/ics takes a lot of work and a lot of backporting and unfortunately every kernel is different as every phone is which is why no guide is ever accurate. Honestly, the best way to contribute is learn a few languages and start learning slowly. Unless, of course, you have knowledge on linux kernels then that'd be awesome
Either way i started a channel on irc #teamfah-q. That is where team fah-q(merwin, flyers00, thomas.raines, and myself) hangs out and shares ideas with each other and talk about changes and we do drop leaks to our builds and mods and the such. Join us on the channel.

theprogram1 said:
So I am fed up with T-Mobile and Samsung not releasing a ics update for this phone. I wan't to try the new features like facelock and android beam ( really helpful). Well can we start from scratch also is there a guide to do that? It would be really awesome if someone posted a link for it.
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I tried exactly this once... and let me tell you, it's REALLY difficult. I started with a T989 kernel and after months of work, still had a non-booting kernel.
I'm starting again, but moving much slower since I have an S3 now. I'm also trying to get a "console" on the device so I can see if the thing is actually booting at all.
Joy.
Good luck if you want to start in on this, I wish you the best

Best/Most Stable Rom?

Well I'm looking to root my wife's Droid Charge, I only have experience in rooting HTC phones, So I'm going to have another learning curve about rooting a Samsung phone. something about odin software
Im wondering if there are any dev's currently working on/tweaking there roms for this phone, or is the development of this phone is dead.
I would like to flash a rom that she can use as a DD. Has anyone ported a ICS rom to this phone where everything works as it should? Link would be cool.
Any tips or links to the latest rooting method for this would would be great. She did take all/any ota updates Verizon has sent out.
What a huge difference between her Droid Charge and my old Droid Incredible. Big mistake thinking the Droid line would not put out a product that was inferior to there older Droid Inc.
So I want to make the best of a disappointing situation. I know some Dev's can turn a turd into a golden nugget, so my fingers are crossed that there is a ROM out there that will make this phone work like It should have out of the box.
Thanks for any input/links you may have to help

No working ICS, no AOSP. The RIL is still not cracked on this phone after a year and a half. Tweaked is really the only game in town for roms. Not that it's a bad game...it's a very good rom, and customizable to an almost AOKP level.
Based on your sig, you'll have no issues rooting. It's way easier than the Rezound...the bootloader is completely unlocked and in the clear out of the box. It's literally just flash and go here. I'll try to scare up a step by step guide for you.

Hitch_Itch said:
Well I'm looking to root my wife's Droid Charge, I only have experience in rooting HTC phones, So I'm going to have another learning curve about rooting a Samsung phone. something about odin software
Im wondering if there are any dev's currently working on/tweaking there roms for this phone, or is the development of this phone is dead.
I would like to flash a rom that she can use as a DD. Has anyone ported a ICS rom to this phone where everything works as it should? Link would be cool.
Any tips or links to the latest rooting method for this would would be great. She did take all/any ota updates Verizon has sent out.
What a huge difference between her Droid Charge and my old Droid Incredible. Big mistake thinking the Droid line would not put out a product that was inferior to there older Droid Inc.
So I want to make the best of a disappointing situation. I know some Dev's can turn a turd into a golden nugget, so my fingers are crossed that there is a ROM out there that will make this phone work like It should have out of the box.
Thanks for any input/links you may have to help
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look in the development section - there's only one custom ROM for FP5 (Tweaked 3.0), but it is really awesome! no fully working ICS (we doubt the charge will ever get it). however, there are some really neat themes (ICS, JB, etc styles) available - look in the themes section.
this device is really easy to root, and nearly impossible to brick.

shrike1978 said:
No working ICS, no AOSP. The RIL is still not cracked on this phone after a year and a half. Tweaked is really the only game in town for roms. Not that it's a bad game...it's a very good rom, and customizable to an almost AOKP level.
Based on your sig, you'll have no issues rooting. It's way easier than the Rezound...the bootloader is completely unlocked and in the clear out of the box. It's literally just flash and go here. I'll try to scare up a step by step guide for you.
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Thanks Shrike!
That would be sweet. Thats why I love XDA, no matter what forum you are in theres always someone there to help

This is older, but it's a good step-by-step on Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
You'll only need to flash recovery in Odin...everything else can be done from recovery. Here's the newest recovery you'll need to flash in Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
The only other really important thing to know that may not be in those threads is that the stock rom overwrites recovery with stock on every boot. The easiest way around that is to just have the rom on your SD card before you start, then flash the recovery and boot straight into recovery (with VolUp+Home+Power) without booting the phone normally. When you flash Tweaked, it will stop the automatic recovery installation so CWM will stay.

Good Deal, Thanks Dude. I now have a little project for tonight or tomorrow:good:

[Q] 2 roms questions

Hi, sorry if this thread is short, but i have two question blowing my mind.
1: Why don't whe have a 4.0.4 Cyanogenmod Rom?
2: And can we have a stock 4.1.2 rom? I mean, with motoblur, not cyanogenmod or that kinda variants
I know that motorola isn't collaborating with its upgrades. But, there is any chance?

First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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tchsvy said:
First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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brianmoyano said:
You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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brianmoyano said:
I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.

jimbridgman said:
Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.

brianmoyano said:
I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I am not mad BTW, I am just tired of people not doing their own research. You are more than welcome to do some reading on compiling Cyanogenmod, so that you understand what we are up against. Also try searching for compiling cyanogenmod on locked bootloaders.
We (all the A2 devs), have answered these same questions so many times now, it is not even funny. It seems that as of late people have gotten more and more lazy in here, and we just keep hashing the same crap over and over again.
You say it is from your own ignorance, but you do not have to be ignorant, just use the search function or do some reading on your own and find what you need. And I do not want to hear excuses or complaints about the search function, I use it all the time, all you have to do is play with the wording until you find what you want. Also note other devs did not answer your original query either, for probably the same reason, not to put words in their mouth's either.
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But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
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Also I hate to tell you but most of your devs do "team up" and we work together on our IRC chat room to do dev work, but again reading around the forms would have also told you that as well, as we talk about it quite often.

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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I think only PA is 4.1.2 so far.. the others are 4.1.1, I think
And Jim's right, I also saw your post in the PA thread and started to reply, but discarded it because I felt I was sounding too mean.. let me try again:
I can say from my personal experience and (relatively low) skill level - it's a mess trying to get all the pieces in place to compile a working ROM from source code for our phone - specifically, the vendor and device files..
I know at least a few A2 devs are working to straighten things out for Edison directly - and a few others working on other Motos with similar hardware and locked bootloaders, which benefits us all.
It's probably safe to say that our phone is in the early stages of true ROM development (as opposed to derivative pseudo-roms and ports) - there is still a lot of work to be done to get something truly stable.
Again, please be patient, or learn and contribute... don't stir the pot.
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[Rom Request] AT&T - D850

Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html

Be a waste?
pr0cl1v1ty said:
Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html
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Especially since we can't flash yet..

breathtakingevil said:
Especially since we can't flash yet..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089

I suppose your right...
pr0cl1v1ty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
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Let me know if this method works for your D850, I'm interested to see!

breathtakingevil said:
Let me know if this method works for your D850, I'm interested to see!
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It does work. Please go read the linked thread.

The link is for the method to only go back to stock. Creating a Rom and flashing it like that will not work. Sorry.
Also, for future reference, this section is for development not requests. That is what the general and Q&A sections are for.
sent from the BaconPope's LG G3

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html
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Glad you are excited but word on the street is alot of the roms for our phones are 99% complete. As soon as we get an unlock/exploite for our phone you will probably see most of your main stream builds pop up. IE. Slim rom, Cyanogen, Carbon, AOKP, etc. I am in no means trying to discourage you but in all due time I am sure you will have a choice of roms to pick from. The source for most of those roms listed above are on github you could start building and forking for our device and I am not sure our device files are available yet.

neo4uo said:
Glad you are excited but word on the street is alot of the roms for our phones are 99% complete. As soon as we get an unlock/exploite for our phone you will probably see most of your main stream builds pop up. IE. Slim rom, Cyanogen, Carbon, AOKP, etc. I am in no means trying to discourage you but in all due time I am sure you will have a choice of roms to pick from. The source for most of those roms listed above are on github you could start building and forking for our device and I am not sure our device files are available yet.
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Yea, I have found all needed files, all we need is a recovery.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Yea, I have found all needed files, all we need is a recovery.
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Awesome...which Rom were you planning on using as a base slim?

pr0cl1v1ty said:
Looking to see if anyone is looking to start developing a rom. I might start doing one soon and seeing if anyone else has prior experience. I'm interested in creating a stable slim rom.
Original ROM Download: http://www.androidrootz.com/p/lg-g3-stock-fiwares.html
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I have been holding off on rooting my D850 until Slim is available. Ran it on my Sensation, and HTC One M7. I know one can do all sorts of tweaks with some add-ons, but Slim was just the complete package. Can't wait....

I have SlimKat on 2 S3s in the house. I would love to get it on my G3 and G Pad 7

Yes slim will be coming to the g3 as soon as the bootloader is unlocked. I am the slim maintainer for the optimus g and g2. I have a g3 sitting in a drawer at home. Unfortunately, until the bootloader is unlocked (and im very confident it will happen. Thecubed unlocked it on the lgog), it is not possible to have any roms yet.

arcardinal said:
Yes slim will be coming to the g3 as soon as the bootloader is unlocked. I am the slim maintainer for the optimus g and g2. I have a g3 sitting in a drawer at home. Unfortunately, until the bootloader is unlocked (and im very confident it will happen. Thecubed unlocked it on the lgog), it is not possible to have any roms yet.
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acardinal. good to see you on here. do you know it's true that the former maintainer for CM is also now doing it for the g3?

arcardinal said:
Yes slim will be coming to the g3 as soon as the bootloader is unlocked. I am the slim maintainer for the optimus g and g2. I have a g3 sitting in a drawer at home. Unfortunately, until the bootloader is unlocked (and im very confident it will happen. Thecubed unlocked it on the lgog), it is not possible to have any roms yet.
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That's great to hear, I have SlimKat on 2 S3s and would love to get it on the G3, getting it on my gpad 7 would be awesome too but I doubt I'll end up that lucky

Yea slim is pretty awesome, I plan on starting new with the base rom provided from AT&T and going from there as it is my first time to get into Cooking.

Not sure if you saw this... It's "unofficially" here! Other than the standard AOSP Bluetooth issue, works well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2940752
[UNOFFICIAL]Slimkat 4.4.4 build 8.12.1[11/14/2014][Bumped]

mslatter said:
Not sure if you saw this... It's "unofficially" here! Other than the standard AOSP Bluetooth issue, works well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2940752
[UNOFFICIAL]Slimkat 4.4.4 build 8.12.1[11/14/2014][Bumped]
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I flashed it as soon as it was released

Most stable lollipop rom

Hey guys I've had my g3 rooted for a couple months now and I have yet to find a really good ROM to use cm12 was to buggy and grew tired of nightlies. Liquidsmooth was really good only issue I had was Skype and hangouts. I'm on candy5 latest build now and I'm getting a lot of glitches, force closes, etc. I've clean installed the last 2 roms and experience problems. If Liquidsmooth didn't have that Skype issue I would probably stuck to it. Any ROM suggestions?

Nexus.S said:
Hey guys I've had my g3 rooted for a couple months now and I have yet to find a really good ROM to use cm12 was to buggy and grew tired of nightlies. Liquidsmooth was really good only issue I had was Skype and hangouts. I'm on candy5 latest build now and I'm getting a lot of glitches, force closes, etc. I've clean installed the last 2 roms and experience problems. If Liquidsmooth didn't have that Skype issue I would probably stuck to it. Any ROM suggestions?
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For the most part, all the AOSP Roms like the ones you received will have similar bugs until they are ironed out over time. The least buggy Roms are those based of the lg ROM. Right now there are only 2 stock lg lollipop Roms. Both of them are very stable however they're basically just rooted versions of the stock lollipop ROM.

I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.

Nexus.S said:
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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Seriously..... Go to Android Development section
2SHAYNEZ

Nexus.S said:
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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[ROM][STOCK][BUMP'd] LG D850 20F Lollipop 5.0.1 (+ extras)
TekROM - D850 - Stock 20f - Lollipop - Deodex/Root/Busybox
Keep in mind both still have all that carrier bloat we love to hate. I use the first rom without issue and debloated it myself using titanium backup.

I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.

muppetmaster916 said:
I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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It's because the development took and still takes lots of work. The devs had a lot of work just to root Lollipop, then to flash twrp. But I also do think that between all roms available (including KK roms and LP roms) we don't have as many as other devices from the same gen have. Heck, I had my Galaxy S3 and there were ports for everything. Can't complain though, between the stock ones and illusion (talking my preferences), I feel complete.

muppetmaster916 said:
I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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For KitKat, there's plenty of ROMs available, partially due to the fact that porting D855 ROMs was cake (swap out kernel and modules, and you're golden). That's why there weren't too many D850-specific ROMs.
On LP, there's a new handshake process between ROM and kernel, so we can't do that...yet. I feel like "development" on ROMs as a result is going to be hindered, since there's hope that the process will get cracked, then we can just port straight from D855 with little effort. Otherwise, if we have to mess about with the D85020f base, it'll take much more time.

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For KitKat, there's plenty of ROMs available, partially due to the fact that porting D855 ROMs was cake (swap out kernel and modules, and you're golden). That's why there weren't too many D850-specific ROMs.
On LP, there's a new handshake process between ROM and kernel, so we can't do that...yet. I feel like "development" on ROMs as a result is going to be hindered, since there's hope that the process will get cracked, then we can just port straight from D855 with little effort. Otherwise, if we have to mess about with the D85020f base, it'll take much more time.
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Gotcha, I wonder if this is being worked on. If so do you know of a thread where progress could be tracked?

muppetmaster916 said:
Gotcha, I wonder if this is being worked on. If so do you know of a thread where progress could be tracked?
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@Spz0 has been talking about this as of late in his OA855-5 ROM thread, as he is readying to move the ROM to Lollipop.
The defacto LG standard ROM of many, CloudyG3 by @Cloudyfa, also will inevitably jump on this bandwagon, but he hasn't been spotted in a while. He's probably just busy or something.

Not sure why this thread even exists.. this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Lounge.
@Nexus.S the question you've asked is one that will never offer ONE end all solid answer. It is truly a case of "to each his own". You need to continue doing what you were doing and try obe that fits all of your needs.
There are literally hundreds of users that have commented on every rom available for this device. Asking there will get you quicker answers, rather then waiting for people to find your thread and post something witty.
Threads of this type end up being nothing more then, OT threads.
Please check the index (found HERE) which lists all the roms for this device.

smac7 said:
[ROM][STOCK][BUMP'd] LG D850 20F Lollipop 5.0.1 (+ extras)
TekROM - D850 - Stock 20f - Lollipop - Deodex/Root/Busybox
Keep in mind both still have all that carrier bloat we love to hate. I use the first rom without issue and debloated it myself using titanium backup.
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I can also vouch for the first one. In fact, I was far less aggressive with debloating and have skipped xposed for now... and it's more stable, better battery life and (IMO) a better UI.
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Beanstalk. Enough said.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

TonyStark said:
Not sure why this thread even exists.. this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Lounge.
@Nexus.S the question you've asked is one that will never offer ONE end all solid answer. It is truly a case of "to each his own". You need to continue doing what you were doing and try obe that fits all of your needs.
There are literally hundreds of users that have commented on every rom available for this device. Asking there will get you quicker answers, rather then waiting for people to find your thread and post something witty.
Threads of this type end up being nothing more then, OT threads.
Please check the index (found HERE) which lists all the roms for this device.
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True. For some it's more the 'personal process' of discussion with others that seems important, and less the strict data/direct content of the discussion.

resurrection remix 5.0.2 is a really great rom i had doubts because it was based off of cm but i was impressed