Is the Huawei MediaPad 10.1 FHD the real contender? - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After owning 2 units of transformer infinity myself and still keeping my eyes on the infinity forum and seeing so many people having issue with QC, I am start feeling that ASUS vs. (relatively poor reputation) Huawei may not be so different. In fact, Huawei may even be better as their specification seem to demonstrate they are trying to work hard getting their foot into the tablet market.
So for those of you who are still debating infinity vs. galaxy note 10.1, I say hold the thought and perhaps wait couple more weeks to see how Huawei's Mediapad 10.1 FHD plays.
Here is the specification:
Type
Type
Tablet
Platform
Operating System
Android 4.0
Transfer Rate
LTE Cat4 (DL 150Mbps / UL 50Mbps), DC-HSPA+ (DL 84Mbps / UL 42Mbps)
CPU
Cortex-A9 Quad 1.2GHz
Appearance
Dimension (H X W X D)
257.4 × 175.9 × 8.8mm
Weight
~580g
Display
Size
10.1-inch
Resolution
1920*1200 IPS
Camera
Camera resolution
Front: 1.3Mp (720p Video Calling); Rear: 8Mp AF (1080p Camcording), Dual LED Flash
Capacity
Memory
8 / 16 / 32 / 64GB options
RAM
1GB
Connectivity
Wi-Fi
802.11b / 802.11g / 802.11n
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 3.0
Entertainment
Video player
[email protected](MPEG-4 / H.264 / VC-1 / WMV-9), with formats of MP4 / 3GP / 3G2 / RM / RMVB / ASF / FLAC / APE / MOV etc.
Music player
MP3 / WMA / FLAC / APE / WAV / RA / Ogg / MIDI / 3GP etc.
Headphone
3.5mm stereo audio jack, 2*Stereo speaker, Build-in MIC
Location
Location
GPS/A-GPS
Sensors
Accelerometer sensor
Supported
Ambient light sensor
Supported
e-Compass
Supported
Vibrator
Supported
Battery*
Type
Li-Poly
Capacity
6600mAh
Pros:
+ Full HD screen (like infinity)
+ Quad Core CPU with 16 core GPU (like Note)
+ Optional dock (like infinity)
Cons:
- 8 GB storage (but official site says 16,32,64 will be available)
- Huawei (does not have good reputation, but ASUS in my opinion should lose its reputation soon)
- No S-pen
Question:
- Some sites says this got 2GB RAM, which would be awesome, but official site says 1GB RAM

Well, I don't see how a Cortex-A9 Quad 1.2GHz can drive that display and not experience performance issues. That is the problem with the true HD displays. The current mobile CPU's/GPU's simply are not powerful enough to drive them without problems.
Also, you lost me at "no s-pen".
Until the W8 Samsung devices with s-pen begin to appear, there will simply be no competition for the SGN10.1. And once they do begin to appear, they will likely be hundreds more.

I mean it looks like just another plain old 10" tablet . Not even running jb out of box. Not a contender if you ask me. Nothing is unique?
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mitchellvii said:
Well, I don't see how a Cortex-A9 Quad 1.2GHz can drive that display and not experience performance issues. That is the problem with the true HD displays. The current mobile CPU's/GPU's simply are not powerful enough to drive them without problems.
Also, you lost me at "no s-pen".
Until the W8 Samsung devices with s-pen begin to appear, there will simply be no competition for the SGN10.1. And once they do begin to appear, they will likely be hundreds more.
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If your primarily reason for getting Note was indeed S-pen, I totally agree. There is no competition. As far as W8 pen support, my understanding is they are only supported for Windows 8 Pro version NOT RT version. So all devices are just as you said in the price range of ultrabook, which are like $700-$1100. Then battery life on the upper end pro version is horrible (like Samsung Ativ Smart Pro), and heavy.
So Galaxy Note will remain of its kind for a while.
I personally love Note not because of S-pen but rest of its power. Stability and speed mainly.
As for Cortex 9 Quad Core, I don't think CPU is the issue. Remember new Ipad driving even higher resolution has only dual core with 1GHz. The difference is GPU. If you look at Infinity's benchmark, it is essentially superior in many tests over the new Ipad for CPU itself but GPU is far inferior. Galaxy' Note's Exynos is currently the closest to the A5X, but even then still far behind (but with current resolution, I don't think Galaxy Note need any higher GPU). So my hope on MediaPad is GPU, which uses 16 cores rather than 12 cores on Tegra 3.
But who knows. I had a hope on Transformer Infinity before its released... I had a hope on IFA for big announcement that could be my ideal machine (essentially what's galaxy note 10.1 is + FHD). But nothing came true so far... and now I am giving hope to reputation lacking company.

DJsCrIBbLe said:
I mean it looks like just another plain old 10" tablet . Not even running jb out of box. Not a contender if you ask me. Nothing is unique?
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Personally, I don't think uniqueness is a key at this point. My dream machine as I stated above is the android tablet that has Galaxy Note's 10.1's stability, speed, and FHD.

No Digitized pen = No contest
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Yeah, not really seeing how this is a competitor to the Note with no digitizer. Its a shot across ASUS' bow. On paper its a good one but how often are these Chinese "off brands" real competitors to name brand hardware in the long run.

The problem with these off brands is that while their top line hardware may be name brand they use cheap components. This just sounds like a "me too" product.
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Vostok 7 said:
Its a shot across ASUS' bow. On paper its a good one but how often are these Chinese "off brands" real competitors to name brand hardware in the long run.
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mitchellvii said:
The problem with these off brands is that while their top line hardware may be name brand they use cheap components. This just sounds like a "me too" product.
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Exactly. Read the below link which provides Anand's comments on some of the components Asus uses. If this is what the number four tablet maker is doing can you imagine what type of components Huawei being based in China will use? If Coby decided to move upscale and introduce a FHD quad-core tablet would anyone be excited? I wouldn't. Pretty on the outside doesn't mean pretty on the inside.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6
Also, service and support have to be considered. Samsung pays roundtrip two-day shipping if a product needs warranty work with a door-to-door turnaround time of seven days. If parts aren't available they'll replace the device, usually with a brand new one. Read some of the stories on the Asus boards about their outsourced repair facility in TX. Who's going to service and support a Huawei device? Personally, I’ll stick with Samsung, HTC, Sony, and Motorola. I’ll skip LG, Acer, and Asus based on my experiences and observing the experiences of others. As for Huawei, you guys can be the beta-tester’s. If they end up rising like Hyundai has I'll check their products out in about five years.

The other thing with off-brands is when they put an OS on their devices, they do very little if any optimization for the hardware. So even if the hardware specs are good, they don't run as good as even a lower spec comparable name brand device.

Vostok 7 said:
The other thing with off-brands is when they put an OS on their devices, they do very little if any optimization for the hardware. So even if the hardware specs are good, they don't run as good as even a lower spec comparable name brand device.
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Or worse, they create something like this. This is their new Emotion UI where they've ditched Google's app drawer and replaced it with their own.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Or worse, they create something like this. This is their new Emotion UI where they've ditched Google's app drawer and replaced it with their own.
http://thedroidguy.com/2012/09/huaweis-new-emotion-ui/
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This is actually very interesting. Whether good or bad aside, it proves huawei is doing something serious based in their belief. Just like touchwiz. I was actually more worried that they dont have capability of software tuning so release as non touched version of ics. Though small i am still hoping this would be the one until p10 releases in next year.

The number one reason this tablet will fail is that you'll never pick up chicks telling them you drive a Huawei.
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mitchellvii said:
Well, I don't see how a Cortex-A9 Quad 1.2GHz can drive that display and not experience performance issues. That is the problem with the true HD displays. The current mobile CPU's/GPU's simply are not powerful enough to drive them without problems.
Also, you lost me at "no s-pen".
Until the W8 Samsung devices with s-pen begin to appear, there will simply be no competition for the SGN10.1. And once they do begin to appear, they will likely be hundreds more.
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It's not a contender:
1) Any FHD tablet is fundamentally a non-contender until the next generation of mobile GPUs. Quad 1.2 looks like they picked an el-cheapo CPU (maybe a lowend tegra3) and we know for a fact that can't drive FHD properly.
2) It's Huawei. Their hardware is decent, but their software quality is even more atrocious than Samsung and their support is HORRIFIC. Their response to USA customers who wanted Froyo on the Huawei S7 was "buy the S7 Slim". Mind you, the S7 Slim had half the bugs the S7 did (like orientation sensor having X and Y swapped which broke many apps). Also, it took forever to get them to comply with the GPL with the kernel. Seriously, even if you practically GIVE the Chinese something (Linux kernel), they'll still find a way to manage to steal it (Fail to release the source for their modified version).

Here is an Interview Video about the CPU and GPU:
http://armdevices.net/2012/02/27/hisilicon-k3v2-quad-core-40nm-arm-cortex-a9/

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[DISCUSSION] The Future of Cell Phones [NOV6]

What would you like to see?
All of the below are technologies that are AVAILABLE TODAY. They just haven't been implemented yet. When I say future in this thread, I want you to think about what will come THIS year, but also the years to come.
What's already out (see the bottom of the thread for archived, Q1-2 2012 stuff)
AUO Borderless Screen Phone
MAIN CONCEPT: borderless screens
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Google (LG) Nexus 4 for $299 unlocked with no contract
MAIN CONCEPTS: affordability, direct from manufacturer, wireless charging, NFC, Wireless screen mirroring with Android4.2
Google (Samsung) Nexus 7/10 for $199/$399 unlocked/no contract
MAIN CONCEPTS: affordability, direct from manufacturer, NFC, Ultra HD on Nexus 10, Wireless screen mirroring with Android4.2
Asus Transformer Prime
MAIN CONCEPT: First ICS quad core tablet that turns into a netbook - second version (with 1080P HD screen - Asus TF700, not yet released)
Not shown: Asus Transformer 2011 Model, Motorola Xoom tablet (first Android tablet).
Also: Galaxy Tab 7.0 with keyboard
Microsoft Surface Tablet -
MAIN CONCEPTS: Windows 8, Mighty Fine Lookin' tablet with soft keyboard
HTC One X5
MAIN CONCEPTS: First 1080P Screen on a phone (Samsung and LG have both mentioned they will release one in late 2012/2013)
Samsung Galaxy Note IIhttp://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/index.html?type=find
MAIN CONCEPTS: 5.5" screen phone, touch sensitivity pen
Asus Padfone 2http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/20/3363090/asus-padfone-2-october-16th
MAIN CONCEPTS: 4.7" 720P phone that slides into a 10" 720P screen tablet shell/dock. ONE DEVICE
What do you want to see?
Modern Cell phones have already swallowed up: MP3 players, GPS units, PMPs, PDAs, landline phones, many computer features and utilities. They can easily swallow up: tablets, MOST laptops, eventually PC towers, console games, portable gaming systems, automobile stereo head units.
MY TOP 10 PREDICTIONS FOR 2012/2013 - these technologies are ALL already available on the market, but are not yet integrated into one device.
1. FULLER INTEGRATION - (cellphone into tablet/laptop, pops into your car, etc.)
2. CONVERGENCE IS "DIGITAL MINIMALISM" - the newer and more complicated the device, the fewer devices you will HAVE to have. This also means you need less storage furniture, cases, cables, etc.
3. THE CLOUD WILL BACKUP EVERYTHING - Apps, all data, etc. will be automatically synched, encrypted, and devices will therefore be fully replaceable. In essence your device will only be a shell. This obviously means that you will be able to access your "Virtual device" from anywhere you are. With many data plans placing restrictions, this will be done mostly through wifi at first.
4. CLOUD APPS - Many of your apps and will be cloud based. This also means that the iOS/Android "great digital divide" will mean less. Part of the processing will also be cloud-based. This means devices will not HAVE to have the most amazing processors, but they will anyway for non-cloud apps.
5. MORE CLOUD SERVICES - but only a few BIG ones (ie Google, Microsoft, Dropbox, others) that everyone will use by default on their device. I forecast this for Android 5.0, iOS 6 (sort of in iOS 5 now)
6. WIRELESS EVERYTHING - no more cables! Not for data transfers (done by already released Bluetooth 4.0, Wifi Ad Hoc, or NFC-near field communications), not for internet (we've been using 3G for years and now 4G LTE is rolling out), and not for charging (inductive charging is already possible and relatively inexpensive).
7. WEATHERPROOFING AND DURABILITY - due to its lack of cables (see point 6), the phone will be relatively weather-sealed (CES 2012 confirms this). There may be a large 1-piece rear cover (like on the HTC Sensation) that is user removable for access to SIM card, Flash memory, and battery which has a rubber liner. More durable construction is already being seen on non-Apple devices like the HTC Sensation, and is in part due to Gorilla Glass technology.
8. BATTERY LIFE - as we become more dependent on our phones, manufacturers will feel increasingly pressured to put new and better batteries into our phones. There are already a lot of aftermarket batteries that exceed OEM specs and are high quality. The next likely battery technology will be Lithium-Air to replace Lithium-ion. (SAMSUNG AND MOTOROLA CONFIRM THIS AT CES2012 - planning on 24h battery life)
9. INDESTRUCTIBLE, FINGERPRINT PROOF, NO-GLARE GLASS - Technologies like Corning's "Gorilla Glass" are already widely used in smartphones. Gorilla Glass will be succeeded by Corning's new "Lotus Glass" (link above, now called Gorilla Glass 2 since CES2012). Omniphobic nanoparticle coating will also allow the entire device, screen included, to be virtually finger-print resistant. Other glass technologies allow for 99.5% light transmittance, meaning that only 0.5% of the light will be reflective, making it practically non-glare.
10. HD - Imagine real life. That's how the images on your phone will look. So much so it will be hard to distinguish the image on your screen from the real-life background behind it. High definition (720P) screens are already in many new phones, but you will also see 1080P screens (see: Transformer Prime TF700, "new" iPad)
For 2013 and beyond:
1. FLEXIBLE PHONES - OLED screens, already widely used in cellphones, are flexible already (depending on the substrate). Due to advances in circuit printing and substrate materials, not only will the entire phone be flexible (and therefore resistant to screen crack/shatter), they may also be "morphable" so that you can snap it onto your wrist when you're not using it. This flexibility also requires that everything is wireless (ie data transfer by BT4.0,Wifi,NFC,LTE, inductive charging)
2. WEEK-LONG BATTERY LIFE - as processors and other components require less energy, and battery technology continues to improve, you will see vast improvements in battery life.
3. CENTRALIZED DEVICE - The phone will, by 2013 and beyond, become the only device that everyone has (ie. no more laptops or desktops, except in some environments such as work where dumb terminals and centralized servers are rapidly replacing older desktop towers).
4. YOUR WALLET - Services like Google Wallet and PayPal NFC are geared to replace traditional credit cards, and therefor your wallet (excepting cash, which unfortunately you still have to use at a lot of places thanks to the greed of credit card companies and their 3-5% transaction fees - fees that are passed on to you and make everything more expensive)
Archived "Coming soon"
Motorola Atrix 2 - dual core phone that turns into a netbook
Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX - dual core phone with 3300mAh battery (about 2x better than other phones) Also has LTE
HTC One X - April 2012 - First quad-core 1.5GHz ICS phone to market (first of many if you check MWC)
Asus Padfone - April 2012- Phone that turns into a Tablet... That turns into a laptop (update from MWC2012 Barcelona). This is the first superdevice/Ultraphone
HTC Zeta - 2.5GHz (stock) Quad core phone, but only 1GB RAM
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I'd like to see the future of phones to serve everyone's needs... whether it be used as a phone, a laptop/tablet, car stereo, GPS, home entertainment system, all in one device that could go with you anywhere and be docked on a compatible device for the user to control whatever it is connected to.
Maybe Google can come up with a few new patents for the next Nexus phone and work some deals with a few big companies to to have docking stations.
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i think the dual core is enough for phone
so the future may be create more and more useful apps
and how to lenghten the life of the phone
plktom123 said:
i think the dual core is enough for phone
so the future may be create more and more useful apps
and how to lenghten the life of the phone
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Why would any manufacturer want to lengthen the life of a phone? It doesn't make them any money for consumers to have a phone that lasts 3 years!
....screen technology that works properly in the REAL world - I.e. outside where you get cold wet hands AND receive phone calls, or want to use apps !
Once that is standard then we can start to worry more about performance specs, at the moment you can have whatever processor you like it still won't work once you get wet fingers. Even the Defy's waterproofness only stops you from bricking it!
John
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Weather resistance is a good one. I think it'd be hard to accomplish if you have any sort of output/input, though.
Maybe if it charges inductively, transfers files through wifi only, has a rubber-sealed SIM/battery/microSD compartment, and only allows bluetooth audio THEN it could work. Until then... don't drop your phone into a puddle.
Longevity of devices is an important issue, one of OS hardware requirements. They may be able to increase RAM to laptop-like levels (or at least have some user-upgradeable option like microSIMMs), but when it comes to CPUs they are coming out faster than OEM's can find something useful to do with them.
I personally can't wait for my quad-core 2.5GHz (3.0GHz overclocked) HTC Zeta with ICS and Sense 4.0 next year
In my opinion, phones and tablets in the future should follow some standards:
1) CPU:
Phones: 1 core, at least 1GHz (low-mid end); 2 cores (high-end) (2 cores should be best for phones, not 4)
Tablets: 2 cores (low-mid end); 4 cores (high-end)
2) RAM: 512MB - 1GB (phones); 2GB (tablets)
3) GPU: Depends on the SoC.
4) Displays:
Phones: 3.5", 800x480 (low-end); 4", 1280x720 (mid-high end) (above 4" is unnecessary)
Tablets: 7", 1280x800; 10", 1920x1200.
@hunter
You're quoting last year's specs now. Recall that 1GHz hasn't been a big deal since the Nexus One.
As for quad core processing - they are more energy efficient per core than dual cores, so if you're thinking that quad core is unnecessary or unsuitable for phones due to battery life you'd be dead wrong.
Can anyone think of how phones at the end of 2012 will look? What about 2013?
According to my knowledge, there are still a lot of low and mid-end phones that use 600MHz ARM11CPU, so a 1 GHz Cortex A8 CPU should be the base standard in the next year.
Also, how do you know that quad-core chips are more efficient than dual-core ones? Based on the Tegra 3?
RoboDan918 said:
They can easily swallow up: tablets, MOST laptops, eventually PC towers, console games, portable gaming systems, automobile stereo head units.
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NEVAAAAARRRRRRR
Ye can't have meh tower!
That good sir would be an act of war!
I like things to be modular and powerful.. and there is a lot of life left in the desktop industry.
Upgradability/expandability...
There are zif type sockets for ARM CPUs - give them to us, again, simm/dimm/??? let us upgrade ram... It's ridiculous that we're stuck with whatever the manufacturer gave us - which never seems to be the max for the hardware, just seems to be a price point thing... And then we're out of date within a year...
Smartphones need to progress into a more PC like design, users have different needs - our phones shouldn't be proprietary and un-upgradable...
Cells as line phones are today....
Satellite Phones Quad core, with 64g to 128g or more ram/rom storage micro sdxc(no limit on size... just your imagination and what you can afford or is out their at the moment. 4" to 4.5" screens capable of 1080p 60 HDMI in and out
All i can say is "The Future is TOO Bright"
The way cell phones are evolving...cant expect whats next !
Everything you have on your phone, have on your tablet/ultrabook and htpc.
Hybrid tablet laptop. The screen is a single glass piece. It has a single screen that you can touch from both sides. When open the 'cover' is black and the screen closest to the keyboard is activated ready for you to look at etc. When it's closed what was the cover is now a touchscreen. You can hold and use it like a tablet.
With all these ultrabooks/macbook air's coming out they'll easily be able to get to the 10mm thickness mark. With Intel wanting to compete with ARM this could be a real possibility in terms having laptop like power in them not to mention Windows 8 supporting ARM devices as well.
I would have never thought we'd be at this level with cell phones when just a few years ago "flip-phones" were the in thing. I'm definitely not gonna doubt the capabilities of the new phones in the near future.
Brain implant with an Optic Nerve connection to get a HUD.
Or a phone that doesn't drop calls! Lets start there.
That HTC Edge look tight! I heard that you can use your HTC beats in twitter by just talking what you'll tweet. Imagine if you say"Hello", the phone will tweet that.. Cool huh.. It makes us people lazier tho.. lol..
waiting other ,HTC future phone looks not nice
Owa its realy osame...........
Mattix724 said:
I'd like to see the future of phones to serve everyone's needs... whether it be used as a phone, a laptop/tablet, car stereo, GPS, home entertainment system, all in one device that could go with you anywhere and be docked on a compatible device for the user to control whatever it is connected to.
Maybe Google can come up with a few new patents for the next Nexus phone and work some deals with a few big companies to to have docking stations.
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Agreed. That would be really be a great integration.

Different Magic - PIPO M8 Dual Core Tablet Hands-on Review

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First, I have to say that I am really very excited that PIPO has chosen me, along with 19 other people, to review this new tablet. I’ve become quite a fan of the device as soon as I laid my eyes on it. As I always go for uniqueness and the feel of black technology (Sorry, Apple!), the PIPO M8 gives me just everything I need!
For people who have never heard of this brand, it is a company focusing on making differentiated tablets in the Chinese markets. It is the first Chinese company to market a 7 inch tablet with 1280*800 IPS display, an 8.9 inch PLS tablet as well as this 9.4 IPS display device we are testing today. As far as I am concerned, this marketing strategy has been quite successful, as PIPO has attracted tens of thousands of fans in just a few months’ time since U1 hit the market.
Highlights
9.4” IPS Capacitive Touchscreen, 1280*800
Slim Magazine-like Design
Support WCDMA/GSM Mobile Internet (Only the 3G version)
Android 4.1 OS
RK3066 Dual Core 1.6GHZ processor, quad-core of Mali-400MP
1GB RAM, 16GB ROM
5.0 Mega-pixels AF Camera
Front facing Stereo Speakers
Bluetooth 2.1
Support OTG, HDMI
Support 2160p video playback
Specifications
Operating System: Android 4.1.1
Model: PIPO M8
Display Technology: IPS Capacitive touch screen
Screen Size: 9.4 inch
Resolution: 1280*800
CPU Manufacturer: Rockchip
CPU Model: RK3066 Dual core A9 Chipset with Mali-400MP4
CPU Speed: 1.6GHz
RAM:1GB [email protected]
Hard Drive Capacity: 16GB
PCMCIA Expansion: T-FLASH (Support 32GB MAX)
Camera: 2MP+5MP Auto Focus
HDMI: HDMI1.4
3G: Internal 3G for 3G version, external 3G for the WIFI version
Bluetooth: Yes
GPS:NO
G-Sensor:Yes
Gyroscope: Yes
Audio: Built in stereo speakers (frontal)/ Built in Microphone
Language:Multi-language support
Battery Type: Li-ion, 6500mAh
Charging Voltage: DC 9V - 2.5A
Color: Black
Item Dimensions/ W*D*H:240x 172 x 9.0mm
Net Weight: 520g
Connectors
Ports: 2 x Micro USB port (USB Host and USB data port)
1 x Micro SD card slot
1 x 2.5mm DC input (9V, 2.5A)
1 x Audio jack
1 x Mini HDMI port
Communications
Wireless Connection:WIFI 802.11 b/g/n; WIFI+3G for the 3G version
Bluetooth 2.1
Retail Package
I received a gigantic delivery package last Friday, within which there are a slim paper back box which holds the tablet and a warranty certificate, another smaller but thicker paper box which holds the fittings and the manual for this tablet. A protection cover which is more likely an optional fitting more than a bundled one.
And above are all the standard fittings for the tablet.
Design
There’s no questioning that PIPO has come up with a stand-out look for this tablet. From the second you see the M8, it’s clear that the company is making a statement about how you’ll live and work with the device. The basic shape calls to mind a folded book or magazine, which is really comfortable to look at even though it feels very different. The device sports a 9.4-inch screen and weighs in at 520g, but it feels lighter in your hands than other tablets on the market because of the way the shape allows weight to be distributed. The tablet is only 9.02mm at its thickest point, and tapers down to a narrow 4.36mm.
Whether or not you warm up to this design is probably a matter of taste, but I found myself a big fan of the magazine shape, in both two-handed and single-hand settings, as well as on a flat surface. The beveled shape makes typing slightly easier when you have the M8 on a desk.
Besides the big screen up front, the M8 features a 2.0 Mega Pixels Front-facing camera, an ambient light detection sensor which enables auto-brightness of the display, and two speaker gates. This is the first time I’ve seen any tablets putting speaker gates on the front, but this is actually a very smart move, as you could never block them again wherever you put your tablet, Both the clarity of the outer sound the stereo speakers produces and its volume is very good, better than any other Chinese branded tablets I have tested.
Most of the ports and all the hardware keys are located on the upper edge, including a menu key, an ESC key. a Micro SD card slot which supports cards up to 32GB, a Micro USB Host connector, a Micro USB data port, a Mini HDMI interface, an LED notification light and a DC charging jack. The plug PIPO includes is of the 9V-2.5A standard, which ensures great charging efficiency.
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On the left edge lies a 3.5mm audio jack, and on the right a Power/Standby switch which is artistically designed.
On the back you will find a 5 Mega-pixels AF camera which is able to shoot fairly sharp photos, another outstanding feature for the gorgeous device. All of the ports and buttons on the device feel very reasonably placed and easy to find.
In all, the M8 is a distinct device with a lot going for it in terms of industrial design, and there is almost no misstep here that makes the device underwhelming. The skin-feel metal back cover gives the device all the feel of expensiveness it needs, even comparing to those Apple and Samsung tablets which are priced many times more.
Display
The front is occupied by a 9.4” 1280x800 pixels screen, surrounded by fairly thin bezel. The screen resolution is the main gripe to be held against the M8, in this day and age of flagship slates with 1080p displays and above. Having said that, it is a very good screen in terms of colors, contrast ratio and viewing angles. The display brightness is also really satisfactory, meaning that you would be able to use the M8 outside even on a sunny day.
Internals
Inside the M8, you will find a healthy dose of familiar Android guts. The device is powered by Rockchip RK3066 dual core A9 chipset, running at 1.6GHZ, meaning you’ll get solid performance on all almost all applications. According to previous tests with other tablets powered by this chipset, RK3066 is arguably the most powerful dual core ARM processor. The M8 has 1GB of RAM onboard and 16GB of internal storage. The device also sports Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and an array of sensors (gyro, light, accelerometer, etc.).
Software
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Most tablets these days must be judged on their software. In the case of Android Jelly Bean tablets, that’s not exactly a Herculean effort.
PIPO is no different in the sense that the company has opted for slight tweaks in the software rather than a major overhaul. The M8 utilizes largely the same build of Jelly Bean as other tablets (like the Galaxy Tab 8.9), though there are a few notable differences.
First, PIPO has designed a customized M8 homescreen which does not have a portrait mode, this can be quite annoying sometimes when you exit an portrait-default application like an E-reader or games such as Temple Run.
The widgets and icons of the regular applications have been revised to fit the custom UI. Having seen lots of stock Android UIs, I find myself quite a fan of those cute, crystal-like icons. As the M8 has no hardware controls for volume adjustment, PIPO has put the virtual volume rocker in the permanent android status bar, along with a screenshot button and the regular ECS key, Home key and Task Switcher.
PIPO has also preinstalled a few applications and games on the M8, but one of them PIPO-exclusive. You can easily find them free in any android market app.
Cameras
The rear-facing 5.0 Mega-pixels camera does a great job of capturing images — if you’re into holding a nearly 10-inch tablet up while you snap away. As I’ve said in many other tablet reviews, taking photos with the cameras on tablets are completely silly to me, even though I actually have seen quite a few Chinese and Japanese people doing that in public. I certainly won’t. On the other hand, the front-facing camera here is a step up from most other models, and I’m happy to see PIPO trying to improve the specs on what is normally an afterthought.
Just know this: even though the rear camera is probably the best I have seen on any Chinese tablet, it won’t replace a real camera or decent smartphone option — mostly due to the size of the device and awkwardness in use.
You can also capture 480P videos with the M8, though this seems even more bizarre to me than snapping photos. Quality was solid, though the device’s awkward size made it tough to get steady content.
Performance
As I have mentioned above, the RK3066 chipset, although seemingly a little outdated as a bunch of quad-corers have already hit the market, is still able to provide more than enough power to run the device smoothly over a variety of applications.
Some benchmark scores of the M8 and the comparison to other dual core devices.
In terms of General performance, the device seemed speedy running graphically intense games. And the experience of video playback is also very pleasant as the chipset can easily supports all formats of videos to at least 1080P. Thanks to the updates Google has made for Android4.1, the responsiveness and smoothness is better than ever. It doesn’t pale even compared to the Apple iOS.
Connectivity
As for connectivity, M8 has probably the best WIFI reception of all Chinese tablets I've tested, Online video streaming is possible even when you are 10 meters and some walls away from the WIFI router.
Besides, M8 also has built-in Bluetooth, which is a rare feature for Chinese slates. The WIFI version of the tablet can also get access to 3G network through connecting a 3G network card to the device through an OTG cable. And the 3G version has built-in 3G module which supports WCDMA/GSM SIM card. As I've only received a WIFI version, I cannot tell you how well the 3G module works on the M8.
Battery Life
Battery life on the M8 seemed solid to me, as the device features a 6500mAh rechargeable Li-PO battery. In my intense 720p video playback test, the M8 lasted nearly 8 hours, which is quite something considering that most Chinese tablets can hardly stand 5 hours of screen-on use. However, I did notice a more pronounced drain on the battery when the device was sleeping than my Tegra2 powered Samsung Galaxy Tab8.9 and Motorola XOOM, and I felt it fell short of competitors like the Ainol NOVO10 (8000mAh battery) and FSL Fast (8000mAh battery) in terms of overall battery longevity.
Another annoying issue is that the device does not support charging under the shutdown state, even though the charging efficiency with the 9V-2.5A plug is quite amazing (A full charge only takes as short as 3 hours).
Wrap-up
Good stuff:
Fascinating industrial design
Great looking display
Capable cameras
Excellent front facing stereo speakers
Solid battery life
Wonderful WIFI reception
Not so good stuff:
Incapability of charging under a shutdown state
Pricier than alternative options
Android slates are mostly competing on specs and price these days, rather than with design and overall experience.
The M8 goes for RMB1199 ($193) from PIPO, and, granted, this is $200 less than the market-leading iPad Mini, or the original 9.4 inch Sony Tablet S which is powered by the quad-core Tegra3 chipset. But for the same $200 price you can get the Exynos Qua-core Ramos W30, or the brand new Ployer MOMO19 with quad-core A31 and 2GB of ram.
The M8 does offer some features to differentiate itself from the competition, though, apart from the distinctive looks, like the very capable cameras and battery. Other than that, you can find plenty of decent Android tablets with this screen resolution and processing power for even less.
Overall, those who'd appreciate the more distinctive, elegant look will find the M8 right up their alley. But for those who just want a cheap Chinese tablet with a big screen and decent processing power, there might be other options.
thanks for your report.
questions:
how fast is the gpu clock for the mali mp400mp4 in the m8, ist the clock at 533 mhz???
Thanks for your question, the GPU is clocked at 399MHZ, powerful enough to run all Android games smoothly.
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against cube u30gt how does it compete?
thanks
Okay, ive got one for over a week now, the M* 3G (built in), and I must say......it rocks! Can work for about 6 Hrs without recharging, Wifi is perfect, design is a beauty,Im living in the Netherlands and today I tried (without any hopes of working) my built in 3G sim...guess what, no problem, worked right away. Graphic Speed is more than sufficient. The screenres. is perfect, tried to stream from my QNAP 469 (Twonky & Serviio) and the QNAP apps, worked like charm ( besides the mkv of 20+ gb.....but that's normal). When you buy this Tablet, beware of the fact that the OTG cable can be defect (as was mine...) when i tried to hook up a keyboard which i ordered in a sleeve, after replacing it it worked fine (also mouse and HDD). Sufficient power out for the HDD. Conclusion for me (mind...non-gamer, mediafreak yess) for about $185 ex. shipping: A WINNER!
For me, m8 is the better choice, u30gt is much porkier. And I prefer the design of m8.
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the 3G version, $185? r u serious? It's priced at RMB1,399 here in China, which is above $200....
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You should mention in the negatives that you can't update the android OS by OTA you have to do a whole procedure to do a system update via your pc (so if you have a linux based pc you are pretty much sc....d). In my case I have an Andersson ADT 2.6 which is a rebranded Pipo M8
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M8 replacement
For those who love their M8 Pro, like I do ...and would like a viable replacement someday, look to the M8HD.
It is the same case with a 10.1" brighter screen installed; thinner screen surrounds; bigger battery.
Pretty sure the M8 Pro is being/has been discontinued. I hated that they might give up the M8 size and style.
Not so, thankfully!
Could be one day we will see a RK3288 in the M8 case. Now that would be nice! ?:good:
Edit on 6/28/15
Amazing that I can still edit this post after so long. My M8 Pro finally died a quiet death. I was going to give it to a family member now that I have my Cube T9; decided to update the RileyRom, and bricked the tablet. Dead android on back; frozen on screen with a triangle above him marking his demise.
Boo hoo! There was a lot about the M8 Pro I really liked!
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The battery is not even close to what the review is referring. Its last for 2 hours only in daily use and it was something like that from the begging. I have the tablet for 1 and a half year and after 6 months it started to hang, freez, you hard reset it and does not come on easily. As a conclusion DO NOT BUY IT!!! NEVER NEVER!!!

Black Fashion - Ployer MOMO19 Quad-Core Tablet Review

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The new Ployer MOMO19 is an Allwinner A31 powered slate with a below average 9.7 inch IPS screen. Yes, this device is all about the chipset, and I’m talking about a quad-core processor based on Cortex-A7 frame. And until the RK3188 powered PIPO M9 goes on sale at the end of this month, this is probably the most powerful Chinese tablet you can get your hands on.
Key Features
◇9.7” 16M-color IPS display of XGA resolution (1024X768 pixels)
◇Weighs 630g, 238.4mm*185.5mm*9.3mm in size.
◇Allwinner A31 chipset: Quad-core 1.2GHZ ARM Cortex-A7 processor; 2GB of DDR3 RAM; PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU
◇Stock Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
◇16GB of built-in-memory
◇VGA front facing camera; 5.0MP rear-facing camera
◇ACC Stereo speaker
◇HDMI TV-out
◇USB host
◇MicroSD card slot
◇Standard 3.5mm audio jack
◇Adobe Flash 11 support
◇2160p video playback
◇8000mAh Li-Po rechargeable battery
Retail Package
The tablet is packed in an extremely slim paperback box.
Along with the tablet itself, I also found those things in the paperback box.
Design
My first and lasting impression of the MOMO19 was one of a well-constructed and durable machine. The tablet's brilliant In-Plane Switching (IPS) screen is a premium panel that's fronted by damage-resistant Glass, and the back side is black aluminum. These two sides of the slate give it a look and feel that instills confidence when you hold it in your hand.
At 630g and 9.3mm thick, it's not the lightest or thinnest option around, though ployer isn't exactly known for churning out ultra-slim tablets. Still, the MOMO19 feels great in hands, and that extra bit of thickness lends the device a solid, reassuring grip.
Similar to other Chinese Android tablets, I have seen a strong showing of ports and slots. Besides the Micro USB data port and 3.5mm audio jack, there is also a Mini-HDMI connector, a 2.5mm charging connector, and a microSD card slot to augment the 16GB of internal storage. What should be mentioned is that Ployer has carefully covered the micro SD card slot and HDMI, USB port with the dust-proof lid. As for hardware controls, there are only a power/standby switch and a back button. You have to use the touch screen to control the volume of the device.
Display and Sound
As for the 9.7 inch display itself, it can hardly be described as eye-catching. The resolution stays XGA standard with a PPI of 132, easily dwarfed by those tablets with Retina or FHD displays. However, I would still say it’s a decent choice since the Soc. manufacturers haven’t made that much progress in the GPU department of the chipset to work a retina display perfectly.
The IPS display on the MOMO19 has great viewing angles and vibrant colors, but the brightness of the screen is quite weak, making it almost impossible to use the device outdoor.
Despite having only one speaker gate, this model played music clearly. We tested it with Fun’s energetic "We are Young" and Lana Del Rey's soft and melodic "Video Games", not only was the music comprehensible, the volume was also quite pleasant. The ACC enhancement gives the sound some stereo effect, too. I have already streamed many clips of online videos since I received the tablet two weeks ago.
Software
I've rehashed Jelly Bean so many times that it feels downright superfluous to spend more than a few sentences outlining this tablet's Android 4.1.1 software. Still, with Google I/O around the corner, the prospect of Jelly Bean looms, and it's worth mentioning that newer devices such as the MOMO19 will probably get a 4.2 update at some point.
As with many other Chinese Android tablets, the volume rocker sits on the system bar. Ployer didn't exercise more restraint than usual with the software pre-load on this tablet. Booting the tablet up for the first time, you'll be greeted with Dopool, Chinese perpetual calendar, YouTube, QQ music, Winrar, Baidu Input and 4k video player app-- not to mention the full Google suite of apps and a bundle of productivity programs including MOMO HD app market and Documents to go -- in the app menu. Never fear, though: you can cut down on the bloat by disabling what you don't need under Settings.
Navigating the Android 4.1 interface is very fluid and easy, I have never encountered any glitches with the tablet's responsiveness. Even when I was scrolling through photo-heavy sites, the MOMO19 stayed smooth and sloppy.
Performance
We're getting quite used to seeing Chinese tablets that serve up Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean with smooth, fast performance now, and the MOMO19 belongs to this breed, thanks to the all new quad-core Allwinner A31 CPU, which is based on ARM Cortex-A7 frame and used 40nm workmanship, The main frequency of each core can reach the speed of 1.2GHZ. The choice of PowerVR SGX544MP2 as its GPU made A31 one of the most graphically powerful chipset ever made for Android devices.
As a tablet using a brand new chipset, MOMO19 has done pretty well in most of the benchmark tests. In Nenamark2 and Antutu benchmark tests, MOMO19 has beaten all the Cortex-A9 dual core tablets. Although the scores of HTML5 and Metal tests through Vellamo seem somewhat disappointing, but I seriously doubt it’s due to the lack of optimization for this new chipset, and I hope there will soon be firmware updates which help unleash all the powers of this new quad-core tablet.
The Ployer MOMO19 is a much stronger performer than those benchmark score numbers illustrate. Everything—opening apps, multitasking, playing games, browsing the Web, streaming HD videos—on this device happened quickly and smoothly, without lag. In my crazy multitasking test, running a few online-chatting applications in the background, streaming several online HD videos in the stock browser which has already opened more than 20 tabs of image-heavy web pages, and I am also using the 4K player to run 4 HD videos on different floating windows at the same time, The MOMO19 remained very responsive.
Thanks to the impeccable PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU, playing games on the MOMO19 is even more pleasurable than it is on Exynos 4412 powered tablets such as the Benyi Miracle One, everything happens faster with more graphic contents. I have already been very skilled in playing games such as “Crazy Cars” and “Asphalt 7” on RK3066 and Exynos 4412 tablets, but with the MOMO19, I have to readapt coz everything comes in more frames within the same amount of time.
When it comes to video playback, MOMO19 is even more powerful, the Allwinner Soc in it can easily support different formats of clips to 2160P, and the 4K video player app can enable playing 4 clips of HD videos in 4 different floating windows. The IPS display and the ACC stereo speaker make my video watching experience with MOMO19 the most enjoyable ever!
Camera​
The MOMO19 has been treated by Ployer with a 5.0 Mega-pixels rear facing camera and a VGA front facing video-chatting camera. For a tablet, the rear side camera can shoot above average images, but the front-facing camera is more or less a disappointment, it cannot even do a decent job of producing clear facial images during video-chatting.
Photoes taken by rear side camera
Photo taken by front-facing camera
Battery Life​
The MOMO19's 8000mAh battery really helped the slate stand out on my Battery Rundown Test, which involves running a 720P definition video on loop with the screen brightness at 30 percent, speaker volume at 50%, and WiFi off. The unit ran for 10 hours and 2 minutes until the battery died. It is quite decent since RK3066 tablets with the same screen size and battery capacity can only last a little more than 8 hours in the same test.
Of course, this is still no match for the Benyi Miracle one’s 12:40, but it definitely outruns most of the Chinese Android tablets currently on the scene. That the MOMO19 delivered this number while using a more powerful, faster processor than the dual core generation of tablets makes this even more remarkable.
Wrap-up
I wasn't entirely sure what to expect from a tablet engineered around a brand new A7 frame quad-core processor. But I can say with confidence that the MOMO19 is an excellent tablet. It comes with the latest technology, generous storage, abundant ports and slots, exceptional battery life, a nice screen, and a high quality rear-facing camera—all for a very competitive price.
Ever since the A31 chipset hit the market, there has been fierce debate whether quad-core A7 processor can outdo dual core A9 processors such as RK3066 and Amlogic MX in raw processing power, and how it will compare to existent quad-core chipsets such as Exynos 4412 and Tegra3. I may not be entitled to tell you on the most scientific level whether A31 beats RK3066, but I can say that A31 processor can produce far more than enough power for running any android application smoothly, at least that’s what you can expect MOMO19 to do!
If the MOMO19 is the bellwether, though, 2013 promises to be an exciting time for tablet enthusiasts. Since the generation of quad-core Android tablets is evolving right before our eyes, I might suggest waiting to see what comes next before dropping down your dollars for a vanguard machine like this one. However, I can say with confidence that the MOMO19 is a good-looking, strong-performing tablet that seems poised to stand proudly with the rest of the 2013 tablet pack.
does it charge by USB?
zeroBPM said:
does it charge by USB?
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nope, it's charged through a 2.5mm dc port.
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it's a decent choice.
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momo19hd
Has Any one found any firmware or a .img to update momo19hd tablet . or even a stock rom with only android applications and google apps if some one can find any images that work plese post a link here //and also im sorry if i have posted this in the wrong section ..
New firmware 4.2.2
shashank9000 said:
Has Any one found any firmware or a .img to update momo19hd tablet . or even a stock rom with only android applications and google apps if some one can find any images that work plese post a link here //and also im sorry if i have posted this in the wrong section ..
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Firmware - android 4.2.2 for momo ployer 19HD(boards v02, v03)
Release: 16.07.2013
download.ployer.cn/downdetail.asp?id=795
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BTW: Working better, than previous version, but camera don't work with any application on board v01. (camera not working in Skype).
How to install?
Download from upper link firmware image.
Download Phoenix suit 1.0.6 (this version I tested. Have Chinese install, but English menu)
Install it. In tablet settings - developer options - enable USB debugging for install correct drivers. Tablet leave run.
Run Phoenix suit and recognize device. then select downloaded image and click to update.
Done
I have big problem with this momo19 quad core tablet.
I try to update with MOMO19 quad-core 4.2 firmware 20.130.723 from ployer.cn
Now tablet boot, but black screen. Touch is OK, but no image...
How can I resolve my problem?

Review: iFive Mini 3, An iPad Mini Clone with Retina Display and Android 4.4.2

The good: Matte-finish back cover and gilded trim deliver a premium feel. 2048-by-1536 Retina screen shows crispy details. Pure android 4.4 OS with emoji, capacitive buttons of screenshot and full screen. Neat design with no physical button except the power starter.
The bad: Switch between home screens and photos are not very smooth. Camera has very low real resolution and contrast.
Bottom line: A plain tablet in performance, but with features to catch eyes.
A good stuff may be good in many ways, only a few of which are learnt by hearts though. When the second generation of iPad Mini is mentioned, what’s the first thing coming to your mind? A7-plus-M7 CPU collocation? Double antenna? HD facetime camera? Double microphone? Perhaps we were fond of talking about each of these shortly after the 7.9-inch tablet was released. But two or three months later, for most people, all they remember is an iPad mini with Retina display, just as its official name suggests.
So iFive, the Chinese tablet PC manufacturer, was smart to also imitate the 2,048-by-1,536 screen resolution when it imitated iPad mini 2. An iPad mini clone with Retina display sounds closer to the original product and with some sense of high tech.
But I’m a sober man who, thus, is not to expect some excellent stuff out of 198 US dollars. A cheap 4-core CPU plus equally cheap 4-core GPU process 3.14 million pixels during every switch of picture at a speed beyond the distinguishing of your eyes? Bite me!
All I hope to see is only something normal instead of a crap. So I’m starting my check step by step.
1.Design:
I love the look of iPad Mini 2, so I’m not going to complain on that of its clone. By comparison with the iPad, iFive mini 3 has the same shape, same space grey rear side with matte finish, same shining silver-coated trim, same position of front and back cameras, and same proportion of display to bezel.
Some minor differences are of course needed to escape legal accusations. iFive’s speaker mouth was a far smaller one located near the bottom; the power button, TF slot, USB port, 3.5mm headphone Jack and microphone are in a queue on the top edge; and you don’t find any other physical button throughout the tablet. Reasonably, the iFive is a little bit thicker than iPad mini to contain a 5,200mAh Battery.
I don’t find any flaw in craftsmanship from the one iFive mini 3 I held in hand. In fact, this is the best crafted among all the Chinese phones or tablets I tested these days. After all, appearance is the prior selling point of the iFive tablet.
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2. Display:
iFive itself boasted of the Mini 3 as the world’s second 7.9-inch Retina tablet. According to the GFX benchmark, the display does have a resolution of 2,048 by 1,536 pixels and the 324PPI density indeed has reached the standard of Retina.
Retina means you don’t distinguish pixel from pixels even though you strain your eyes. This definition is exactly how I feel about the display of iFive mini 3. As a matter of fact, this screen shows perfectly crisp details and vibrant colors.
Here I took a photo with iFive mini 3 and iPad mini 2 compared via the same picture of 2,048 by 1,536 pixels. You can see iFive is worthy opponent.
3. Performance:
This was the first time I used a benchmark app to get a score before I play games for real experience,because i was so curious how much the mini 3 would notch by such a top-heavy hardware configuration.
As anticipated, GFX Bench 3.0 gives horrible low scores for the tablet’s graphics processing ability. It says the mini 3 is able to deal with only a few frames in one second at its native resolution. Fortunately, we do not often play 2,048-by-1,536 videos or games, so the device has not been slaughtered.
By real experience, i frequently encountered after images in the switch of home screens, though it is not that intolerable. And when i opened a picture in Gallery, i can saw the progress from blurry to clear in a bout 1/2 second.
However, the device has no problem playing 1080p videos. I tried the live ballet Swan Lake Part I by the Royal Opera House in 2012 in MKV format with a code rate of 14,367Kbps and frame rate of 25fps (34 minutes, 4.3GB). You can see from the video review that there was no delay or hiccup.
I could say this tablet is not for demanding games even if it was not with the burdening quad HD display, since Rockchip has not produced a CPU targeted at high-end gamers. So i should not say it is the iFive’s drawback incapable of supporting thrilling speed in NFS, Most Wanted.
4. Operating System
iFive mini 3 runs on the pure Android 4.2.2 system with Google Play Store enabling you to download any apps you want. What’s new to the capacitive buttons array include the full screen icon for you to hidden these buttons when playing games or make them appear when you need them. That’s why the Mini is able to keep only one physical button.
Another virtual button added is for shortcut screenshot, which liberate us from the burden of installing such apps. And the most user-friendly add-on may have been the Emoji icons in the input keyboardd. Finally, we can freely express our emotions during messaging or emailing as we do with IM apps.
5. Camera
Sometimes high face-value resolution leads to high-definition photos, sometimes not. Unluckily, iFive mini 3 belongs to the latter condition for its blurry pictures and dull colors.
6. Battery Life
I believe the battery life is very close to the officially assumed 5200mAh, because without long-time gaming, it decently last me for a day. You may feel weird that in my reviews i always say something can last a day. But have you ever used an android stuff which can insist 2 days?
7. Conclusion:
It’s natural that a cheap product has some drawbacks, but it’ll be sad if it has nothing special to boast about. iFive is clearly aimed at some people, who, i think, don’t want to spend too much on mobile devices, pursue visual delight, but don’t care too much about operational smoothness.
Great summary! And I can just confirm your statements. I do run Kitkat from Kasty on my mini3 retina and the 1,8GHz OC kernel from fdzonerom. This combination really flies!
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I can't find this tablet at the price you said it was (189) where did you buy it? I saw the same model described as quad core MTK or dual core depends can you confirm it is quad core and what model of MTK chipset? Great review btw
Thanks!
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Hi,
Can you comment on how swift is the internet browsing experience? Any problems with content heavy pages?
How is the screen visibility in sun/daylight? Any experience with PDF documents?
thank you
virogor said:
Hi,
Can you comment on how swift is the internet browsing experience? Any problems with content heavy pages?
How is the screen visibility in sun/daylight? Any experience with PDF documents?
thank you
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I think there is no problem, but i will still test the aspects when i can get it again. This week, i think.
Ltdrev said:
I can't find this tablet at the price you said it was (189) where did you buy it? I saw the same model described as quad core MTK or dual core depends can you confirm it is quad core and what model of MTK chipset? Great review btw
Thanks!
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No commercial links here, so i can't tell you. Now it marks down to ifive mini3 185.99. You can search "Ifive mini3 185.99" on google.
And here is the preferences:
CPU: Rockchip RK3188 ARM Cortex-A9 Quad-core Processor
CPU Frequency: 1.6GHz
GPU: Mali-400 MP4
RAM: 2GB
ROM: 16GB
I bought this tablet and I arrived yesterday evening.
For the little use that I did not need to create that change the rom installed.
I can just do it and give you my opinion.
Interesting. I wonder if there is a noticeable slow down due to the larger resolution.
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stefano2566 said:
I bought this tablet and I arrived yesterday evening.
For the little use that I did not need to create that change the rom installed.
I can just do it and give you my opinion.
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Can you write a few lines about web browsing? Any lags? Maybe you can check this site: www(.)salon(.)com - on my iPad (I) it hardly works ... very slow and crashes a lot.
It would be very helpful.
great!
great really.
Hi.
I have made some video:
Game Test:
Pdf Test:
Normal pdf test
If you want to read another review:
http://www.retroandroid.com/review-ifive-mini3-retina/
you'd better make a conclusion by words,
Thanks for the great review!
Seriously considering this tablet if only for the 4:3 display.
Hoping you could answer done questions for me mate.
Size wise it's Donmar to a nexus 7 2013, just a little wider?
The usb charge port is just a standard type. I once had a super long version for one of my Chinese phones.
Normal games like Tetris or Bad Piggies will run fine?
Can the OS be rooted?
Thanks again!
Ltdrev said:
I can't find this tablet at the price you said it was (189) where did you buy it? I saw the same model described as quad core MTK or dual core depends can you confirm it is quad core and what model of MTK chipset? Great review btw
Thanks!
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you can buy it for 170$ with coupon- search SKU122952 ifive and use coupon code 3d1a7c.
OP- thank you for well written in depth review, I was really waiting for iPad mini retina alternatives, hope to see new SOC versions of this tablet soon(Octa?).
Xperia-Ray said:
you can buy it for 170$ with coupon- search SKU122952 ifive and use coupon code 3d1a7c.
OP- thank you for well written in depth review, I was really waiting for iPad mini retina alternatives, hope to see new SOC versions of this tablet soon(Octa?).
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I think your right. Its might be worth holding off untill the Rockchip 3288 versions come out
Have a looky at this link to compare the 3188 in the mini 3 against the 3288.
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/01/10/rockchip-rk3288-vs-rk3188-performance-comparison/
Very good post good job
Just an update for the OC kernel users:I've switched now to the 1,7GHz kernel due to a much lower power consumption of that kernel. In order to avoid crashes after deep sleep, I'd recommend a min frequency of 504MHz
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Im really considering this, any1 else bought it?
virogor said:
Can you write a few lines about web browsing? Any lags? Maybe you can check this site: www(.)salon(.)com - on my iPad (I) it hardly works ... very slow and crashes a lot.
It would be very helpful.
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the site salon ... works like the others.
After a month with the tablet I can say that is a very very good bought.
If somebody would make a cyanogen rom port, definitely would be perfect.
I had installed a custom rom and worked perfect but yesterday I installed an overclok kernel and now is better!!
The site salon works very well, with opera and with chrome.
I have made two videos with two of the most powerful games graphically.

A $50 RK3188 Tablet – the Acube U25T (quad core) Hands-on Review

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It's not easy being a 7-inch tablet these days. With relatively inexpensive devices like the Lenovo A3000 and Kindle tablet offering a whole lot of bang for your buck, budget tablet makers are facing stiffer competition than ever before. Acube's latest offering -- the 7-inch u25GT (quad-core)-- has its work cut out for dominating the lowest end of the Chinese tablet market. With the 8GB model priced at less than $50, the petite U25GT prioritizes performance and screen over its other functions, perhaps in the hopes that its proven RK3188 quad core processor and the power it generates will woo picky buyers. But does the U25GT (quad-core) have what it takes to compete in a crowded market? Read on to find out.
Key Features
◇7 inch PLS display at WSVGA resolution (1024X600 pixels)
◇Weighs 340g, 191*116*10mm in size.
◇Rk3188, 1.4GHZ dual-core Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP4 GPU, 512MB RAM
◇Android 4.4 Kitkat
◇8GB of built-in-storage, expandable by TF card
◇VGA front-facing camera;
◇Stereo speaker
◇USB on the go
◇MicroSD card slot
◇HDMI
◇Standard 3.5mm audio jack
◇1080p video playback
◇2400mAh Li-Po rechargeable battery, 4-5 hours battery life
DESIGN AND BUILD​
The U25GT has relatively big bezel around its 7-inch screen. As much as I know the advantages of the bigger bezel, I am more attracted to the smaller bezel found in the Talk 7X.
To the upper-right corner of screen is the only camera onboard: a front-facing 0.3MP shooter.
All the physical controls and connectors are situated along the right of the tablet, you will find a Power button, which is the only physical key on the U25GT, a 3.5mm audio jack, a Micro USB port, a 2.5mm DC port, a Micro SD card slot which supports cards up to 16GB and, to our pleasant surprise, a Mini HDMI port.
Interestingly, despite there is an independent DC port, the Micro USB port can also be used for charging, making the U25GT easier to bring along while traveling.
The Acube logo and some other information is emblazoned on the lower part of the back shell, though the effect looks somewhat cheap against the scratch-prone plastic backing. Fortunately the branding fun stops right there, as we don’t necessarily need to be reminded that we are holding a low-end Acube tablet in our hands.
The U25GT (quad core) feels remarkably sturdy for a budget device. The dimensions -- 191*116*10mm -- make for a device that's easy to hold and guarantees typing will be a comfortable affair.
DISPLAY AND SOUND
The U25GT features the same display found in the Acube Talk 7X (quad core) and Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. Considering that the display comes with a paltry 1,024 x 600 resolution (that's a pixel density of 170 PPI), we weren't expecting to be blown away by its visuals, but other than that, it is quite amazing, with wonderful color saturation, decent brightness and wide viewing angle.
Acube tablets are always well-known for their wonderful sound performance, luckily the budget U25GT is no exception. The sound coming from the double aperture in the back is even louder than that comes from my Microsoft Surface RT, although the clarity is not all that ideal.
SOFTWARE
The U25GT ships with the latest version of Android, the Android 4.4 KitKat. Although not really a significantly huge leap over the Jelly Bean, it is nice to know you are now using the most advanced operating system.
Customizations and preinstalled applications are kept to the minimum, a nice approach for a Chinese company which isn’t that good at software development.
BENCHMARK AND PERFORMANCE
The U25T (quad core) is powered by the Rockchip RK3188 SoC (quad-core Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP4 GPU), paired with 512MB RAM. Well, we all know too well about the RK3188’s full potential, even though the one in U25GT is clocked at 1.4GHZ, which is different from the 1.6GHZ we normally see in other Chinese tablets, it is still able to generate enough power to deal with a pile of applications with ease. The real issue is the RAM, rather than the chip. I remember that the ICOO Fatty 2 was once criticized by many comments for featuring only 1GB of RAM, sadly, the U25GT has only half as much as that.
With balanced and above-average CPU and GPU performance from the RK3188 chipset, the U25GT really did well in most of our benchmark tests, the lack of RAM probably only showed in the notch of the CF-bench test.
Everyday use was not without its flaws, with only around 100MB free RAM after booting, the U25GT really struggled with multi-tasking. I tried to play a video in a pop-up window and browse some web pages at the same time, the touch panel became less responsive than usual, and with more tabs being opened, the pop-up video player simply disappeared. RAM-hungry games such as the Real Race 3 and Need for Speed Could not even be opened on the U25GT.
But normally the U25GT is pleasant to use. 3D games such as Virtua Tennis and Zombie Wood ran without hiccups or delays, and 1080p YouTube videos were also streamed smoothly. As long as you don’t run many big apps simultaneously, everything’s good.
BATTERY LIFE​
The Acube U25GT (quad core) has packed 2400mAh Li-Po battery, which is of less capacity than most of the recently released smart phones. With the brightness set at 50 percent and Wi-Fi turned on, we played an online TV show continuously until the battery gave out and died, and the results were nowhere near the most impressive we've seen. The A1000's 4 and 49 minutes of battery life places it firmly at the bottom of the list of 7-inch tablets I have tested in the past 2 years. During everyday use, you'll be able to squeak out a bit more time from the slate. Depending on how much you rely on your tablet for web browsing, videos, music and social media, you can probably expect something in the ballpark of 5 or 6 hours with conservative use.
VERDICT
The U25GT could have had the potential to rule the budget end of the tablet market, if it had been less price-sensitive. In my opinion, 1GB should be the minimal possible option when it comes to RAM, but somehow Acube decided to cut the cost even harder. And what are they thinking putting a 2400mAh battery into a tablet?
The good:
The 7-inch PLS panel is amazing, with wonderful color saturation and wide view angle, it is really pleasant to look at on a daily basis.
Having the RK3188 as its SoC., the U25GT is powerful enough for running most of the applications smoothly, and its multimedia performance is more than amazing.
HDMI is another wonderful asset the U25GT holds against most of the other entry-level competitors.
The bad:
The U25GT’s potential in performance is let down by the insufficient RAM, which is extremely evident during multi-tasking and web-browsing
The poor battery performance of the U25GT is a constant reminder of why we said “No” to Chinese tablets 2-3 years ago.
As we mentioned earlier, it's not an easy time to be a 7-inch Android tablet. A low price tag simply isn't enough to wow buyers in a market where they can afford to be picky. As appealing as the RMB299 ($50) price tag and the RK3188 chipset could be, the lack of RAM and underwhelming battery life will drive some of the potential buyers away. Also, as Aube lowered the price of the Talk 7X to just RMB399 ($65), it is reasonable to expect that the Talk 7X will cannibalize the share which the U25GT is marketing towards. $15 for larger RAM, full phone functionalities and significantly better battery life, why not?
Looks like the new Chuwi V17HD
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chuwi v17hd is using the same set of hardware?
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Yes, same hardware. http://www.chuwi.com/index.php?m=Product&a=show&id=50
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Yes, same hardware. http://www.chuwi.com/index.php?m=Product&a=show&id=50
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Mmmmm, and same price, pretty interesting.
But I guess both those tablets are marketing towards the domestic market, adding the delivery cost the oversea price will be too hogh for such a low end device.
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nice review bro
hidayatwahyu said:
nice review bro
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Tks a lot!
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@jupiter2012: is the firmware available?
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I would have one from where i can bjy it link please
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NiceIceDice96 said:
I would have one from where i can bjy it link please
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Posting linke to stores not alowed here, so try Google and search 4 geekbuying/banggood.
OP- thanks for the great review, I can't decide if the colorfly E708 Q1 is better deal(1280*800 screen).
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Posting linke to stores not alowed here, so try Google and search 4 geekbuying/banggood.
OP- thanks for the great review, I can't decide if the colorfly E708 Q1 is better deal(1280*800 screen).
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if it is 1GB ram and not much higher price, i would say it is a better deal
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Very nice tablet, takin' the review conclusion. Nice job. I'm wondering when there will be a 20 $ tablet.
RealMcAlec said:
Very nice tablet, takin' the review conclusion. Nice job. I'm wondering when there will be a 20 $ tablet.
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tks a lot for sharing.
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jupiter2012 said:
tks a lot for sharing.
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Please link for it so I can buy it
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Chuwi V17HD and Cube U25GTC4 are highly identical tabs. Kernel are exchangeable
Some firmware stuff could be found here:
Chuwi V17HD
Cube U25GTC4
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NiceIceDice96 said:
Please link for it so I can buy it
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you may find it on Geekbuying or Mcbub.
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Paradigm69 said:
Great review
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Tks for reading!
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Oma7144 said:
Chuwi V17HD and Cube U25GTC4 are highly identical tabs. Kernel are exchangeable
Some firmware stuff could be found here:
Chuwi V17HD
Cube U25GTC4
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Tks for sharing.
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Pretty cool! I'm usually pretty skeptical of cheap tablets.

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