Baby Steps: ADB for us Dummies - T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide

In the past couple of weeks it's come to my attention that some of the basics of using ADB from the android software developers kit has escaped a few people. With new folks showing up from time to time and all this becoming more or less "ancient history" for most of us ....and an excercise in computer theory to the noobs it just seems like it could stand to be addressed one more time.
Hopefully we can reduce it to it's SIMPLEST concept this time and all in one place where they don't have to go thread hopping and try to piece it all together that way.
SO......let's start right here. OK? This is a link to the install.exe for "ADB for Dummies". https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/Vh6QrvFAEeGmMRICPRQ27A/ADB for Dummies.exe
Now when it pulls up you can save it somewhere in case you need to reinstall it, or just run it from right there. You'll have to accept the "Terms of Agreement" (of course) & then it will give you an option of choosing a folder to install it in on your computer. TAKE THE DEFAULT OF C:\ .
The .exe file will then start installing everything you need for a "bare bones" version of "ADB" into a folder named C:\android-sdk-windows
Now you are DONE with your installation! Easy Peezy....HUH??
NEXT you will want to put that folder in your windows path so you won't always be having to change directories back to that folder to run your commands. To DO that just click on the windows "Start" symbol and look for "Control Panel" over in the right hand column. Click on control panel and open up that folder.
NEXT you want to look for the"System" option and click on that. In the upper left hand corner you will see an option called "Remote Settings" and when you click on THAT you will open up a window named "System Properties". There will be 5 tabs across the top......one of them being named "ADVANCED". DON'T CRAP YOUR PANTS JUST CLICK ON IT! See...nothing blew up.
NOW....at the very bottom right hand corner there is a tab called "Enviroment Variables". Click on it baby....you're almost HOME now! "Enviroment Variables" is the very window it will open up too! (A shocker, I KNOW)!
In THAT window you will see an area at the bottom called "System Variables". That's where you're going to be finishing up and getting outta there.
NEXT I want you to click on the scroll bar until you see "Path" on the left & what's IN the path on the right. You're going to be adding your new folder to that path. OK?? NOW....highlite "Path" and then click on the middle button named "EDIT" and another little tiny window will come up named "Edit System Variable". The "Variable Value" IS YOUR EXISTING PATH!
NOW.....Click at the very end of this string and add this to the end with no spaces ;C:\android-sdk-windows
NOW VERY carefully click on "OK"....then on "OK"....then on "OK" again until you are right back to the Control Panel window you started in. Click on the little "X" in the upper right hand corner of the control panel window and close it out.
LAST but certainly not LEAST........close out everything you have open & REBOOT your computer so windows will be SURE and read it's new path addition.
From this point on, all you'll have to do to run ADB is pull up your command window and type CD\ To take you to a C prompt. And ANY file you are wanting to flash will be placed in your root directory C:\ on your computer....where there are usually no other individual files existing. Makes it EAAAASY to clean up behind yourself when you need to find that file & can it....if you ever even do.
TA freakin' DA!! You are now an ADB WIZARD!
(but don't tell anyone where you heard it....)
P.S. My very best advice is that you consider this a 2 part thread that you don't consider yourself through with until you have read and completed Blue6IX's tutorial and user's guide below.

Here is a write up I did explaining the adb pull command in detail - should help add to the topic at hand:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17188721

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SPB Clone....a warning.

I have been trying out some backup tools to see which one is best.
One of the ones I tried was SPB Clone which at first glance looks excellent.
It can make a self extracting image of your PPC on an SD card in about 3 minutes. Very cool.
However.....WARNING !!!!!
I decided to try it to see if it really did backup and restore everyting.
The answer is, pretty much, yes. However, I didn't buy a copy because it costs...wait for it....$300....no....there is no decimal point missing !
I used the demo version...I mean...that's what a demo version is for, right ?
Now, my pocketpc keeps popping up with a message box that says, "This device was restored with a demo version of SPB Clone. Please buy a full version to get rid of this annoying message" (or words to that effect).
How annoying is that ?!!
I'm not sure this can be done, but why don't you probe the registry searching for that annoying message and luckily, if there, remove it. Or maybe try uninstalling Spb Clone will help.
It sounds far less painful than $300.
How to remove the nag screen in your case:
1. Open folder \Windows\StartUp in File Explorer.
2. Tap and Hold and select View All files.
3. Select bootupd.exe and select Cut from context menu.
4. Change to the root folder "\" and tap-n-hold on the empty space within folder view. Select "Paste" from context menu.
5. Soft reset.
6. Remove bootupd.exe from the root folder.
easy huh?

Edit Lockscreen Text - Not Carrier Text - CM7

Apologies in advance if I am posting in the wrong section.
I've been talking to some people over on the CM forums about this and we haven't found an answer yet.
If you look in my screenshot, right below the alarm, my name is on my lockscreen. This was put here using an old setting on CyanogenMod 6.1.2 on my HTC Evo 4g. You did this on CM6 by going to Settings > Location & Security. Then there was a checkbox to "Show Custom Message". You then put in text!
Does anyone know which file stores this value on CM7/Android 2.3? I've pulled the eri.xml file from my phone and I can edit my carrier text but I have not been able to find my name. I like being able to edit that text and I wanted to update it to something new but the settings no longer exist under CM7. Thanks for looking!
I have found a ton of utils for editing carrier text but nothing for the text pointed to in the red arrow.
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Not the answer you are looking for here but wouldnt it be easier and less annoying and stressful to just flash back to the rom where you could change it, change it to what you want and then flash back ?
that is if i am understanding you correctly and your name shows up now of course with the new rom...
i would think if you changed your name to whatever you wanted then you could go back to the new rom and it would appear the way you want it.
I'm going to give that a try tomorrow. Not sure if it sticks through an upgrade or not but worth a try. Im just curious at this point what confit file it is. Wish there was a filemon or similar tool for Android. Although, if can dump all the files off the phone before and after I should be able to do comparisons....hrm. Project for tomorrow.
OK, finally took the time to work on this a little further.
I reflashed CM6, booted and confirmed there was no lockscreen text. Took a nandroid and copied off the system.img
I then put a lockscreen text in - used a custom phrase that would not be in any of the config files normally. Rebooted, took a nandroid and copied off this system.img.
Extracted both system.img files using unyaffs.
I did a binary and CRC comparison off all the files, no differences. So apparently this setting is stored somewhere else. Hrm......
AHA. Found the little bugger finally.
Had to pull the data.img and extract that. The setting is located in
/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
lock_screen_custom_msgTESTTEXT
lock_screen_show_custome_msg1
These are the two options that I found. So, now to see if I can safely edit that DB file and modify the text on CM7. I already have the text on my screen so the data fields are in the DB file already so I suspect I can just edit that file and then replace it on my phone.
Hm. Editing is no good. Blew away all my settings and I not longer can enable any lockscreen.
Hah. Got it! Using ADB works. Instructions:
adb shell
sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
.tables (you should see a secure table listed)
.header on
.mode column
select * from secure;
Now scroll through the results. Find the "lock_screen_custom_m" item under name. Note the ID number to the left. Write the ID number down.
update secure set value='your custom message here' where _ID=NN;
NN is the ID number you wrote down.
.quit
Reboot your phone.
There you go, just in case anyone else is interested.
jdostal said:
Hah. Got it! Using ADB works. Instructions:
adb shell
sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
.tables (you should see a secure table listed)
.header on
.mode column
select * from secure;
Now scroll through the results. Find the "lock_screen_custom_m" item under name. Note the ID number to the left. Write the ID number down.
update secure set value='your custom message here' where _ID=NN;
NN is the ID number you wrote down.
.quit
Reboot your phone.
There you go, just in case anyone else is interested.
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Nice find!
I used a derivative of your method to reset the alarm notification on the GB lockscreen when the buggy POS alarm app G-Alarm left it there after removing all the alarms and uninstalling it.
That one is in system instead of secure, and it can be set to a blank string per http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.System.html#NEXT_ALARM_FORMATTED to clear it
Neat! Glad it could help someone out.
jdostal said:
Neat! Glad it could help someone out.
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Yup, much appreciated! Also great to learn how to edit databases on Android.
Also, I didn't have a USB cable so I did it with the terminal editor. For convenience (i.e. having a real keyboard) I used Webkey for PC access to my phone and its built-in terminal editor to make the changes.
That sounds painful!
I don't know where I read the guide, but definitely use ADB. With ADB you can basically connect to the shell on your phone from your PC through a command prompt. Makes doing this sort of thing MUCH easier!
jdostal said:
That sounds painful!
I don't know where I read the guide, but definitely use ADB. With ADB you can basically connect to the shell on your phone from your PC through a command prompt. Makes doing this sort of thing MUCH easier!
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Did you miss the part where I didn't have a USB cable?

[How-To] Edit Mode10 Files for the MT4GS - step-by-step

Return to Contents Page - doubleshot Developers Reference
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Part 1: Custom Sense Lockring on the MT4GS - easy step-by-step.
Part 2: Edit .9.png files for the MT4GS - step-by-step.
Part 3: This thread.
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So in Part 1, you were introduced to working with graphics in a very in-depth and explanatory way. Even simple things like copy and past were over-exaggeratedly described. We can call Part 1 a beginners tutorial.
In Part 2, we built on what we learned in Part 1. Some concepts were expected to be known, and we covered a lot more but didn't describe to death obvious things during this tutorial. We can call Part 2 an intermediate level tutorial.
For Part 3 we will be laying out an advanced level tutorial. It is assumed you have read and learned what was taught in the first two parts. You are expected to be familiar with de-compiling and re-compiling .apk files at this point.
We will be building on that knowledge here, but unless you have learned what was taught previously ( or already have that knowledge ) this tutorial may be confusing or difficult to follow.
After working through Part 3, you will be able to explore on your own what you can do with the skills you have learned in this series.
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Let me say right up front - this seems like a whole lot of work for one tiny little change.
This is a long and in-depth guide, but once you know how to do it... the whole edit described in the tutorial will only take 5-10 minutes to do.
( Obviously longer on files with more graphics, but for just this? Not more then a few minutes )
The point of this is not to change something amazing - simply to learn how to work with .m10 files - please do not be let down by what we edit or you are using this guide for the wrong reason.
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For the final installment of these graphics tutorials for Android on the MT4GS, we will be covering .m10 ( mode 10 ) files - touching on what they are, explaining where to find them, and also how to work with them.
You can use the other two tutorials to edit all the graphics you can find on the device, and then still be left with stuff that displays in the old pre-edited form.
What gives?
The answer lies with .m10 files. These are sneaky little files that are hidden, and even if you de-compile an app you won't be able to play with them - they are still scrambled. The M10 Editor tool will solve this problem, and this is what we are going to learn how to use.
* - Once again, this guide is written for a Windows XP machine. If your environment is different please adjust accordingly.
You don't require much to work with .m10 graphics files, so let's take a look at what you need.
What you need:
*1 - Android SDK installed
*2 - Java JDK installed.
3 - Microsoft .net Framework 4.0
4 - M10 Editor
5 - Photoshop ( or equivalent - directions for photoshop ) installed and ready.
6 - Rosie.apk from the Sense ROM you will be editing it for.
* - The Android SDK/Java JDK is an optional install, but to get the most out of the M10 tools you will want to have them installed. See the M10 Editor thread for other applications of the tool.
Besides, if you've made it this far, you really should have both development packages installed anyway.
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First thing is to install the Android SDK and Java JDK - both actions are outside the scope of this guide but well documented all over XDA. Here is a post I wrote on installing to a Windows XP machine
This guide will pick up assuming both the Android SDK and the Java JDK are installed.
This guide also assumes that M10 Editor is installed. Please see the M10 Editor thread for the tool if you have trouble in this area.
( ... and of course, that you have Photoshop installed and ready...or another graphics program of your choice - but instructions are for Photoshop. )
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Note:
The reason why I listed the Android SDK and Java JDK is because:
- You can't use the Android SDK without the Java JDK.
- The M10 Editor allows you to use ADB functions.
- The M10 Editor allows you to zipalign apk files.
People may want to use the M10 Editor to push their apk file to the device as a shortcut to quick testing of their changes.
You can use the M10 Editor without the Android SDK and Java JDK - but you should have them to use the Zipalign and ADB functions.
Your (existing) .apk file will work without zipaligning it, and you don't need adb to put the file on your device for testing - but they are both helpful.
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Preparation: Setup.
Let's set up our dev environment.
1 - Make a new folder on your desktop called "RosieEdits"
2 - Place your Rosie.apk file in the "RosieEdits" folder.
3 - Open the "RosieEdits" folder, and create two new folders in it. Call one "RosieOriginal" and the other one "RosieNew".
4 - Copy Rosie.apk and paste her into each folder so you have 3 copies, one in each folder.
We are now done with our .apk file for the moment, and have our project folders set up. Now we need to configure the M10 Editor.
( skip the configuration of the M10 Editor if you do not have ADB and Zipalign setup on your computer. I recommend reading it either way though.)
Open the M10 Editor.
You will see six tabs at the top of the interface, labelled:
Start | m10 Files | Editor | Log | Changelog | About
We will only be working with the first three:
Start | m10 Files | Editor
To set up the M10 Tool - in the Start tab do the following:
1 - Under 'Paths' locate 'Zipalign' and click on 'Choose' all the way on the right hand side.
Then either Navigate to your:
- apk_manager_4.9 directory and locate 'zipalign.exe' in the 'other' folder
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- the 'Tools' folder in the Android SDK directory and locate 'zipalign.exe'
2 - Under 'Paths' locate 'ADB' and click on 'Choose' all the way on the right hand side.
Then navigate to the 'platform-tools' folder in your Android SDK directory and locate 'adb.exe'
Once you have added both of these tools to the M10 Editor paths we are ready to proceed.
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Note: Even more important then working with apk_manager_4.9, you want to make sure you do not close the M10 Editor until you are completely done with the .apk file you are working with.
If you do, you will lose all of your changes and have to start over.
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Part 1: De-Compile.
This is a two-step de-compile process. Don't worry, it's not as scary as it sounds.
By now you should be familiar with using apk_manager_4.9 to de-compile your apps, and using the M10 Editor everything is handled in a nice little program window for you.
So - let's see how to go about doing this.
Part 1-A: De-Compile .apk
Okay, unlike the prior tutorials where you can get away with just diving into your work, we are going to preface this with re-booting your computer.
It is important that you don't really do anything else with it after you boot. Don't sign in to any messenger apps, open any programs you don't have to, or generally put anything in RAM that doesn't have to be.
You really don't want your computer to make a mistake while you do this - and by keeping everything from running that we don't need to use we can help prevent this from happening.
So now that you have rebooted your computer fresh, let it sit for a minute, and have a clean and ready machine to work on, let's get to it.
1 - Open the M10 Editor.
2 - Under the 'Start' tab, in the 'm10-Files' field, you will see 3 things:
- Load File button
- Save File button ( greyed out )
- Check box with a check in it for 'Zipalign APK'
3 - Click the 'Load File' button and navigate to the 'RosieNew' folder. Load Rosie.apk
* - Be patient - this could take a while depending on your system.
You will see a progress bar pop up with blue progress bars, when it's finished they will turn green and it will say 'Loading Done!'
4 - Click 'Close' on the progress bar when the operation completes.
5 - Stop.
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We have now de-compiled the Rosie.apk file into the M10 Editor. However, we still have not de-compiled the actual .m10 files we are going to work with.
To do that, proceed to Part 1-B below.
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Part 1-B: De-Compile .m10 Files
1 - Click the 'm10 Files' tab. You will see quite the list of files in the window.
At the bottom of the M10 Editor program window you will see the following buttons:
Decompile/Show | Decompile all | Refresh selected | Check file | Check all files
... and a check box that says 'Decode Images' next to it.
Take a minute to browse through the list. Don't try to do anything to it yet, just look it over and kind of familiarize yourself with it. When you are ready move on to step two.
2 - Find and select the line that ends with:
Code:
...\M10EDITOR\Rosie\assets\port\scenes\Rosie_workspace.m10
The beginning of the line was left out because that will be unique to each computer. You can find this line near the very bottom of the list.
Note: - This will be the portrait mode Rosie stuff - a very similar line further up will be for landscape.
3 - Once you have selected this line, at the bottom of the 'M10 Editor' window click the check box for 'Decode Images' and then click the button that says 'Decompile/Show'
It will then ask you if you would like to do this, click 'Yes'
You will briefly see a progress bar, and then the M10 Editor will switch to the next tab called 'Editor'
4 - Stop.
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We have now successfully de-compiled the .m10 file we are going to be working with.
So far, not bad, huh? That two-step de-compile process wasn't as bad as it seemed before you started after all.
Next up we will be working with the de-compiled .apk and the .m10 files we now have available to us.
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Part 2: Finding & Accessing the .m10 Graphics
You should be in the "Editor" tab of the M10 Editor tool.
You now see the top level of a tree called 'Rosie_workspace.m10'
Do the following:
1-A: Expand 'Rosie_workspace.m10'
1-B: Expand '0x7c8bed89' ( may be different for different Rosie.apk versions )
1-C: Expand 'Textures'
1-D: Click the first 'Texture' under the 'Textures' heading.
You will now see a picture appear on the right-hand side of the M10 Editor program window.
4-E: 'Right-click' on the picture in the right-hand side of the M10 Editor program window. Select 'Show in Explorer'
You will now have a windows explorer window open that shows all the files in the de-compiled Rosie_workspace folder.
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Important: Do not close the M10 Editor while you are working in the explorer window.
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Now that we have the de-compiled Rosie_workspace.m10 file open as a folder in our explorer window, click on the 'View' in the file menu at the top of the window, and select 'Thumbnails'.
You can now browse through this folder and quite easily see what graphics files you can find.
We will be looking for 3 specifically:
1 - 0x000000a9.dat
2 - 0x00000063.dat
3 - 0x0000019e.dat
Okay - depending on what version of Rosie.apk you have for the MT4GS - they could be differently named.
To make it easy, there are only four blue graphics files you will see in this folder.
Ignore the one that looks like a blue pencil on a blue pad of paper - and just work with the three other ones that are solid squares.
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Part 3: Coloring the Graphics
This part is easy, just open one of the solid-blue square graphics into photoshop and change the Hue the way I showed you in the previous tutorials.
( Image -> Adjustments -> Hue/Saturation )
Set your desired hue, but make it the same for all 3 of the graphics.
For the sake of the tutorial, just make sure the Hue window is set to master and slide the hue slider all the way to the right.
The text box over the Hue slider should say +180, so click OK and then save the image ( don't change the extension or anything - just save. ).
Do this for each of the three solid-blue square graphics, but make sure to do them one at a time, saving and closing each one before moving on to the next.
Once done, move on to Part 4.
( You should be able to actually edit the graphics well enough at this point that this description is sufficient. If not, go back to part 1 for a more detailed explanation. )
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Part 4: Saving & Zipping the .apk
Okay - here we are, this is the last thing we have to do.
If at any time you closed the M10 Editor program window, then you have lost all of your changes and you will have to start over.
So the first thing you have to do is close the explorer window you have been working from. NOT the M10 Editor program window, just the explorer window it opened.
Once this is done, make the M10 Editor window your primary focus. You should still be on the 'Editor' tab.
Note: You will not see the changes you have made in the right-hand side of the M10 Editor program window at this time.
Click on the 'Start' tab.
Once back on the 'Start' tab, make sure zipalign is checked if you have it installed, if not just click 'Save File'
A dialog box will pop up, your normal Microsoft save window. Make sure the filename and filetype are correct, and then click 'Save'
This could be quick, or take a few minutes. Just have patience.
Once done - you may now close the M10 Editor program window.
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That's it - we're done.
The only thing left is to test our change, so install the Rosie.apk file on your Android.
After you get it booted up again, open the app drawer. Make sure you are in PORTRAIT mode.
Okay, now, when you touch the little picture of a house in the lower-right hand corner of the screen to return to your home screen, pay attention to the color of the highlight on the button when you press it.
This is what we changed.
( Anti-climatic, I know, but that's what it was. )
To make up for that, I will let you figure out what else was graphically changed by this edit.
Request: Please do not post the answer below, as this is part of the skill-set this tutorial is aiming to teach. Let others learn as you are.
Honestly, out of the .m10 edits we could have done, this was the easiest and least complicated to use as an example...
... and this was only a portrait mode edit - so you can see now that there is more to check on doing to make this a full change. The important thing here is not the change, but how to do it.
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Now, something to note is that you do not necessarily have to change the .m10 file in the .apk file.
What you can do is de-compile an app ( maybe using apk_tool_4.9 ) and then you can use the .m10 editor to edit the .m10 files directly in the de-compiled app folder.
They will be in the 'Assets' folder of a de-compiled app if it has .m10 files.
While this tutorial was focused on a graphical edit, when it comes to .m10 files graphics are only a very small part of what you can change.
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Conclusion & Thoughts:
In this tutorial you learned how to use the M10 Editor tool and how to work with .m10 files.
Now you can hunt down and find all those graphics that you thought you changed but seemed to keep their pre-changed state.
As graphics are only a small part of what .m10 files hold, there is much more waiting for you as you learn how to do more with your Android system.
You may not want to get into coding and just stick with graphics - that's cool too.
Either way, this series of three tutorials should give you everything you need to get a solid start on editing your Android system beyond the user settings presented to you within the operating system.
Don't forget to go back to the M10 Editor thread for the tool and thank the author for making it available to you.
Happy modding!

[TIP] File Sharing WinRT

Quick tip to enable file sharing on Windows 8 RT:
1. Open the desktop mode
2. Open Explorer
3. Right click on "Computer" and choose "Manage"
4. Expand "Services and Applications"
5. Select "Services"
6. Find the "Server" service and double click it to open.
7. Change the Startup type to "Automatic" or "Automatic (Delayed Start)
8. Click "OK"
9. Right click on the Server service and choose "Start"
You can then make shares as if on a normal Windows 8 PC. This also seems to give Libraries the option to share as well.
Ben
Skip the first 5 steps: just type "services.msc" into Start, and hit Enter.
You can also use the Shared Folders snap-in to Management Console (I can't remember the exact msc filename right now) to share folders beyond what the GUI permits.
GoodDayToDie said:
Skip the first 5 steps: just type "services.msc" into Start, and hit Enter.
You can also use the Shared Folders snap-in to Management Console (I can't remember the exact msc filename right now) to share folders beyond what the GUI permits.
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Tried to make it as easy as possible!! :laugh:

Android folder ico file

Okay, so basically, when you start backing up cwm boot files, custom ROMs, and cwm backups on the pc (or SD card, this works on a cwm bootable sd too), I've always found it convenient to group all these folders and files into a library. But, when you create a library, there is a default picture that you can't change. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fix that. What I do have, however, is an icon file for the <C:\Users\[Your Username]\My Android> folder, which you should probably create and add to the library then drop all your android-related files into there (if you choose to go the library route, though I would suggest this as all that stuff everywhere can get to be quite a mess).
The file is a batch png to ico converted *.ico file, and includes the following sizes: 8x8, 16x16, 32x32, 48x48, 64x64, 128x128, and 256x256, the 8x8 and 16x16 look *really* crappy and are almost too tiny to be visible, but that should be expected, and the 256x256 look blurry, though still decent. As with all batch icon files, the size should adjust automatically according to your icon size setting is.
Instructions:
1.) Download the *.ico file, and move it from [your download location] to <C:\Windows\System32>, so you never have to see or bother with it
again once you're done.
2.) Navigate to <C:\Users\[Your Username]\My Android>. If it doesn't exist, create it then add it to the "Android" library.
3.) Right Click
4.) Select "Properties"
5.) Click on "Customize" tab
6.) Under "Folder icons", select "Change Icon..."
7.) Click "Browse...", and navigate to the *.ico file you just downloaded in the <C:\Windows\System32> directory. It should be one of the only
ones there.
8.) Once the icon file is selected, click "OK"
9.) The selection window should close automatically. Click "Apply" on the Properties window, then close it.
10.) Add The folder to your currently empty library.
11.) If anyone figures out or knows how to change a library icon, please include that in a comment and I will copy and paste it into this post
(this forum has an edit feature, right?) and credit your username at the bottom.
*Please do not remove this post because it's nooby or pointless cosmetics not related directly to android development, I already know that. If it's in the wrong thread, which I'm not entirely sure of since this is my first time posting here, please move it. Since a mod is usually the only usergroup that can delete threads, I'm assuming that if you're reading and considering deleting this thread then you also have the ability to move it.*

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