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A brand new way to play YouTube clips on your Windows Mobile device!

Anyone into watching YouTube videos knows it has always been pretty problematic to play YouTube videos on Windows Mobile. This has also been explained in my related article Playing Flash Video (FLV) files on the Pocket PC - is it possible?.
The built-in PIE / IEM, because of the very bad JavaScript support, has always been unable to play them back and it was only lately that Opera Mobile (as of the first beta of 8.65) and NetFront (as of TP 3.4 007 released early June, 2007) received YouTube support.
These solutions are really sub-par, particularly that of NetFront, which has a comparatively slow Flash plug-in.
This means, so far, the best way to watch YouTube videos was relying on external, Web-based convertor services listed in my earlier all-in-one article on playing back YouTube videos. These convertor services, unfortunately, need a lot of additional work and, in general, result in files that are (much) larger and/or of (much) lower quality than the original YouTube videos.
TCPMP Plugin for Flash Video on PPC for the rescue! It provides a VERY fast (MUCH faster than even Opera Mobile’s playback, let alone the far inferior YouTube support in the latest NetFront beta) and, what is more, conversion-less (meaning no additional bandwidth / quality loss because of the conversion) solution. What is more, it’s FREE, as is TCPMP itself, and runs on both Pocket PC’s and, with some restrictions, touch screen-less Smartphones.
In the following, I explain how it should be used.
1. download the latest (currently: 0.3) version from HERE and, of course, TCPMP (either the PPC (tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab) or the Smartphone (tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab) version).
Extract all the files from the tcpmpflvplugin ZIP file, (currently) tcpmpflvplugin-v0.3.zip, player and, after installing TCPMP, copy the two .plg files in the home of TCPMP (\Storage Card\Program Files\TCPMP when installed on the only storage card under WM5+ etc.).
Copy YouTubeDownload.exe anywhere on your handheld; for example, \Windows\Start Menu\Programs (it’s very small so you can even store it in the main storage)
2. in order to see a video, fire up a Web browser and go to YouTube. When you are on a page you’d like to see the video of, in the address bar, highlight the last part of the URL (the one after the ?v=) as can be seen in HERE. Copy this to the clipboard by tap-and-holding the selection and selecting Copy in the menu:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Here, I’ve copied the ‘x4arSJCWwpk’ parameter of the URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4arSJCWwpk .
3. Now, fire up YouTubeDownload.exe, (after selecting the right target directory) tap-and-hold the “Video ID:” field and select Paste in the drop-down context menu. Now, click Start. The video will be downloaded to the target directory:
Note that the downloader utility is incompatible with the MS Smartphone (WM6 Standard) operating system. First, it doesn’t support focus transfer with D-pad / the Tab key (it’s been written for WM2003) – it’s only with a cursor emulator like SPHelper hat you can traverse the focus as can be seen HERE. However, it won’t be of help as the app won’t be able to connect to YouTube as can be seen in HERE (tested this on my HTC Vox / s710 several times). I really hope the author of YouTubeDownload.exe will soon fix this problem so that Smartphone users can also download any YouTube clips. Until then, you’ll need to rely on files downloaded in other ways.
Also note that version 0.2 is the only version to offer a desktop-based (x86) downloader tool (as opposed to what the developer states). It, however, wasn’t able to download anything on my desktop when I’ve tried. That is, you’ll need to download directly onto your Pocket PC.
4. Then, fire up TCPMP and select the given file (File / Open File):
Now, it’ll be played back:
(same on the MS Smartphone operating system)
It’s very important that you can NOT invoke directly video playback from any Windows Mobile Web browsers – you will ALWAYS need to manually download the videos, manually switch to TCPMP and manually load it for playback.
It’s also worth knowing that the plug-in does NOT work with CorePlayer, the commercial descendant of TCPMP.
Related talk
Note that these threads are FULL of misinformation. It’s worth checking them out but don’t necessarily believe what you read in there.
MoDaCo
PPCT
XDA-Dev

HELP
My TCPMP player will not play the downloaded file when i go to open it ,it does not have the tcpmp symbol on the paper what do i do . If does not see flv files, what do i do ?

very nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309428
and have you noticed that youtube player2.swf has changed and all the software we used to download clips refuse to work now?

ben2684 said:
My TCPMP player will not play the downloaded file when i go to open it ,it does not have the tcpmp symbol on the paper what do i do . If does not see flv files, what do i do ?
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did you install the two plg files,a dn did you restart TCPMP?

i get failed to contact errors sometimes and sometimes it works....actually rarely it works. any suggestions. all other connections work push, rss, xm, sirius, etc.

donsaxena said:
i get failed to contact errors sometimes and sometimes it works....actually rarely it works. any suggestions. all other connections work push, rss, xm, sirius, etc.
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I think you need to live with that

working nicely for me!!!
thanks for the great tool!

What is your average download time. I am downloading a 10795KB video and it's taking over ten minutes.

pthomson said:
What is your average download time. I am downloading a 10795KB video and it's taking over ten minutes.
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With me, it's much faster (over a 100 Mbps connection - haven't tested it over phone connections).

donsaxena said:
i get failed to contact errors sometimes and sometimes it works....actually rarely it works. any suggestions. all other connections work push, rss, xm, sirius, etc.
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yeah you need to get off the 3.5 and get elf's rom no problems on my end good work on the thread menneisyys

I don't know about you guys, but included tool for downloading clips from youtube (desktop one) refused to work recently giving me error (invalid returned link). The ppc one works fine. i assume that since a week or so youtube page has been changed. i took a look at how does youtube work and after a while i put together a simple tool for downloading clips myself (desktop windows). i tried it since yesterday and i think it works fine. if any of you wants to share comment on it, please do so...
all you need to do is copy the link to youtube video page in question and paste it into the first edit box in my app
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBr0dsfLYcU) for example
then after you press start, it downloads a page, then after the while it finds a direct link to a flv file and starts to download it into a dir from which it was run. you can also copy the link for different use (i don't know, maybye someone needs it)
i hope someone will find it usefull.

nateshuntsvegas said:
yeah you need to get off the 3.5 and get elf's rom no problems on my end good work on the thread menneisyys
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yeah its not a problem in the rom i put elf on my friends good and stable but after benchmark 3.5 wins.

banannq said:
I don't know about you guys, but included tool for downloading clips from youtube (desktop one) refused to work recently giving me error (invalid returned link). The ppc one works fine. i assume that since a week or so youtube page has been changed. i took a look at how does youtube work and after a while i put together a simple tool for downloading clips myself (desktop windows). i tried it since yesterday and i think it works fine. if any of you wants to share comment on it, please do so...
all you need to do is copy the link to youtube video page in question and paste it into the first edit box in my app
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBr0dsfLYcU) for example
then after you press start, it downloads a page, then after the while it finds a direct link to a flv file and starts to download it into a dir from which it was run. you can also copy the link for different use (i don't know, maybye someone needs it)
i hope someone will find it usefull.
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Great! I'll post an update to my article, linking in your post!

i can hear the audio from the FLV file but i don't get video?
I copied the
flvsplitter.plg
flvffmpeg.plg
to the windows directory where all the other .plg are
What else do i need?
help!

@Menneisyys: great, i love to hear this.
@ekhanh101:
if you've read the first post in this post, at least, you would notice this part:
1. download the latest (currently: 0.3) version from HERE and, of course, TCPMP (either the PPC (tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab) or the Smartphone (tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab) version).
Extract all the files from the tcpmpflvplugin ZIP file, (currently) tcpmpflvplugin-v0.3.zip, player and, after installing TCPMP,
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||<b>copy the two .plg files in the home of TCPMP</b>||
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(\Storage Card\Program Files\TCPMP when installed on the only storage card under WM5+ etc.).

the "home" of the player is part of the cooked rom.
so the player is in wondows.
putting the .plg in the windows dir make it work for the audio at least,
if i took out the .plgs then it doesn't play at all.
ALL the other .plg files are located in the \windows directory also.
i don't have a TCPMP directory. i tried making one just incase but that doesn't work.
Like i said, you can hear the audio. just no video.

also, here's another way to download flvs from youtube:
http://downthisvideo.com/?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTaqVi9J8k
just put the full url after the ?
still haven't figure out how to get the video to show up yet on TCPMP... i have 0.72RC1 it plays AVIs and the audio from the FLV is perfect... sigh...

ekhanh101 said:
also, here's another way to download flvs from youtube:
http://downthisvideo.com/?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTaqVi9J8k
just put the full url after the ?
still haven't figure out how to get the video to show up yet on TCPMP... i have 0.72RC1 it plays AVIs and the audio from the FLV is perfect... sigh...
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i am sorry then, i should have thought u ment something like this, i just didn't. have no idea, maybe your tcpmp is in wrong version? no clue from me....
about youtube downloaders - there's plenty of this kind of sites online, its enough to google for it (http://www.google.pl/search?source=ig&hl=pl&q=youtube+download&btnG=Szukaj+w+Google&lr=)
there are also at least few firefox plugins (https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/search?q=youtube+download&status=4)
the problem is i don't like to use another site to do it, and i don't like any of these working plugins (the only one i liked refused to work recently)
thats why i preffered this small utility from tcpmp plugin, and since it doesn't work for me anymore neither, i decided to code my own ;]

smartphone version ?
The 2 FLV plugins (from the latest release 0.3) will not install on TCPMP 0.72 smartphone version.
Could someone confirm if the plugin works for TCPMP 0.72 smartphone and if so, which version of the plugin did you use ?

oops, forgot to mention...WM2003 (SPV C550).
If WM2003 is not supported, why not and will it be soon ?

TUTORIAL: New, much easier-to-use version of YouTube video downloader out – a MUST!!!

Anyone having read my tutorial “A brand new way to play YouTube clips on your Windows Mobile device!” knows, up to now, downloading and watching “real” (not the mobile version, which is a completely different and, playback-wise, fully unrelated animal – see the Mobile YouTube tutorial HERE) YouTube videos on a Pocket PC was a two-step process, involving a step of actively downloading the clip to the local file system with a separate and non-MS Smartphone-compliant tool, YouTubeDownload.exe, and only after this playing it back.
The latest, 0.4.2 version of TCPMP Plugin for Flash Video on PPC, fortunately, doesn’t any more involve this extra step. This not only makes it easier to watch “real” (non-mobilized) YouTube videos, but also means the entire process is already MS Smartphone (Windows Mobile Standard) compliant, unlike the previous, YouTubeDownload.exe-based download.
In a nutshell, after installing, you just look up the “v” parameter in the URL of the video (as was the case with the earlier version and as is explained in the previous tutorial) OR just make sure you just search for the title / author / genre, fire up http://www.mobytube.net/, search for this info and click the link of the result(s). The playback will immediately start in TCPMP.
Installing
As with the previous version, download the latest build (currently, 0.4.2) HERE. Make sure you download the CAB file (now, it’s named TCPMPflvplugin-v0.4.2.CAB) and just execute it on the PDA. It’ll automatically install itself to the home directory of TCPMP – unlike with previous versions, no manual file copying is needed.
Using
Now, in your Web browser, go to http://www.mobytube.net/. In the upper textfield, enter the v parameter as explained in the article (AGAIN AND AGAIN, you can also just enter the title, author etc. here too). Also, make sure “youtube” is selected in the second drop-down list (but you can also find videos in other video repositories - if you leave the drop-down list untouched, it'll search in all of them):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(the same on a low-res Smartphone (SP for short), in Opera Mobile)
Now, just tap the Search button: It’ll find the given video as can be seen in HERE (SP screenshot). Now, just press the link under the image; if you use IEM (PIE in pre-WM5 parlance) TCPMP will be fired up at once and, after you explicitly start the video, it’ll play (SP screenshot).
Note that if you use Opera Mobile, you’ll need to select “Open” instead of “Save” in the download screen that comes up then.
I’ll explain how NetFront must be configured in the next section.
Another example screenshot with searching for “music” on YouTube (as opposed to searching for the “v” parameter):
(same screenshot under NetFront 3.4)
Configuring NetFront
If you use NetFront as your browser, you must explicitly configure the browser to invoke the external TCPMP application after downloading the M3U file (otherwise, it’ll just download the file to the local file system and doesn’t do anything else). To do this, go to Menu / Tools / Browser settings and, in Menu, select External Tools. There, press the Add button in the “External Application” group. On the next dialog, select ‘.m3u’ in the “Extension” drop-down list and press OK. If everything is OK, you’ll see this:
showing it’s indeed player.exe (TCPMP’s main executable file) that will be invoked upon having downloaded M3U files. After these, clicking MobyTube links will result in (after a download – you can download the files anywhere as can be seen for example in HERE – and an application start request dialog, where all you need to do is tapping OK, TCPMP will be invoked. A quick note: if, in the latter dialog, you check in “Do not show this dialog” any time (as can be seen in here), you won’t be presented the dialog any more. Doing this is, therefore, highly recommended.
Summary
It’s THIS easy! Needless to say, the TCPMP-based playback is WAAAAAAAAAY faster than doing the same with the standard Flash plug-in under either IEM or Opera Mobile, let alone the current, already (super-slow) Flash-enabled TP versions of NetFront 3.4. Playback is just great even on my very slow TI OMAP-based MS Smartphones and Pocket PC’s – without any kind of overclocking! Also, the networking problems adversely affecting Mobile YouTube playback (see the Mobile YouTube tutorial for more info on this) are non-existing.
All in all, keeping this in mind is a MUST for all Pocket PC and Smartphone users wanting to watch YouTube videos on their handhelds whenever they would like to!

I downloaded and installed the TCPMPflvplugin-v0.4.2.CAB onto my WM6 device and went to search up some videos from www.mobytube.net.
My internet browser is IEM but when i click on the link for a specific video, a download icon pop-ups and asks me to download a ######.m3u file.
Even after DLing the file, it cannot open since there is no application to run the .m3u file.
Funny thing is, you claim that "if you use IEM (PIE in pre-WM5 parlance) TCPMP will be fired up at once and, after you explicitly start the video, it’ll play. "
I didn't have TCPMP program firing up at all..
Could you help?

UPDATE (08/03/2007): :
an even better plug-in has been released in the meantime. If you have a WM5 (or newer) Pocket PC or Smartphone and don’t object to using the built-in Internet Explorer Mobile, make sure you check out the new tutorial HERE
when http://www.mobytube.net/ is (temporarily) down, use http://www.tinytube.it/test.aspx instead (as is recommended HERE)
TCPMPflvplugin-v0.4.2.CAB (and, for that matter, all previous versions) seem(s) to be removed from the download page. Therefore, I’ve mirrored it HERE, should you still want to stick to it, as opposed to the newer, WM5 / IEM-only approach.
Note that you must pay special attention to installing this CAB file in the same memory card (or the built-in memory) where TCPMP has been installed to. Otherwise, playback won’t work. See for example THIS for more info on this.

^ didnt work for me. Just kept saying video not available, it may have been removed.

Meteo said:
^ didnt work for me. Just kept saying video not available, it may have been removed.
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yup...same here

i only get the "video may ha ve been removed" message when i am trying to look at a video that is adult oriented. i can see regular videos just fine, but when i search for say.... "booty shake" it says it can't find the file.

I don't believe that I did anything wrong here but for some reason when I click the open link it opens up in WMP instead of TCPMP. Also when I try to download the video for watching later, it won't let me do that either.

Have you set up the proper file associations by going in Options / Settings / File Association page.
Till I had done this I too was clicking a link into WMP
Regards

srmz said:
Have you set up the proper file associations by going in Options / Settings / File Association page.
Till I had done this I too was clicking a link into WMP
Regards
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Which associations specifically need to be set up?

After starting TCPMP navigate to "Options \ settings \ select page \ file associations" and apart from the boxes already checked by default, make the following additional file associations:
MMS Protocol
HTTP Protocol
Flash Video
M3U Playlist Files (M3U)
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Error message: MMS is not supported!
I have HTC Touch ELF0100, WM6
1. Installed TCPMPv.0.72RC1
2. Installed aac, ffmpeg plug-ins
3. Installed flv plug-in v0.4.2
4. After starting TCPMP navigate to "Options \ settings \ select page \ file associations" and apart from the boxes already checked by default, make the following additional file associations:
MMS Protocol
HTTP Protocol
Flash Video
M3U Playlist Files (M3U)
5. Run IE, navigated to www.mobytube.net
6. Selected Second version
7. Searched for the movie clip and clicked to play
Actual Result
TCPMP player starts and show the message that MMS Protocol is not supported
WHY?

I also get this...MMS protocol not supported.
What's on?

Try "ytpocket.com" instead.

TUTORIAL: Listening to XM Radio on mobile devices

It was yesterday that I’ve explained how you can listen to Sirius, North America’s one of the two most widely listened-to radio network.
Listening to XM Radio, the other major US-based radio broadcasting company is equally easy on all mobile platforms (Windows Mobile, Symbian, Blackberry, iPhone etc.) Let’s take a look at what we have at our disposal.
1. If you have WMA playback support (currently, Windows Mobile only)
... then, just fire up your mobile browser (any browser capable of invoking external applications: Netfront, Internet Explorer or Opera Mobile; Opera Mini or Thunderhawk will NOT work!) and navigate to http://www.xstreamxm.com/mobile/. There, just fill in your login data, select the channel you’d like to listen to, the bitrate and click Go at the bottom:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
after this, you’ll be shown the currently playing song title (the Web page is automatically refreshed every 5 second so the artist / title / album metadata is always kept up-to-date) and the default WMA player (by default, on Windows Mobile, the built-in Windows Media Player) is invoked in the background:
(as with SiriusWM5, the WMA player isn’t passed the metadata info as can be seen in THIS WMP screenshot)
2. Desktop-based transcoding
As XM Radio, unlike Sirius, defaults to high quality streams (and doesn’t require you to pay extra for high-quality streams), if you have a GPRS connection OR want to reduce your data fees, you will want to go for a desktop-based transcoding solution – even if you have a WMA streaming-capable platform (for example, Windows Mobile). The sole reason for this is as follows:
The high-quality WMA stream is broadcast at 64 kbps; the low-quality one at 32 kbps. The latter has really bad sound quality – much worse than that of Sirius. If you need to stream the radio at 32 kbps to your handset (because you’re on GPRS or you MUST reduce your data usage), a transcoder run on your desktop computer can easily transcode the original high-quality 64 kbps stream into a 24 or 32 kbps HE-AAC v2 stream, while keeping the same sound quality (YES, even at 24 kbps!). Similarly, should you want to have access to all your favorite channels in orb only (without having to navigate to another homepage), you might also want to consider “migrating” these channels to Orb. Then, however, you won’t be able to use HE-AAC v2; that is, you can’t reduce the bitrate without a major hit on sound quality.
And, of course, if you have a Symbian or iPhone device (and even the latest Blackberry ones!) currently* not being compatible with streaming WMA, your only choice is desktop-based transcoding – as is the case with listening to Sirius on these platforms.
*: as of 01/06/2008; on Symbian, CorePlayer is supposed to be compatible with WMA but is VERY buggy. The OS itself, while it supports playing back individual WMA files, doesn’t support streaming WMA. Hope the Nokia developers implement both HE-AAC v2 and WMA support in their forthcoming Nokia Internet Radio.
For transcoding, you will need / can to use exactly the same tools as with Sirius, with the only exception that, instead of uSirius, you’ll need to use uXM (current, tested version: 1.0RC2) as the source to either Orb or Winamp running on your desktop.
Configuring uXM, exporting / copying URL’s is done in EXACTLY the same way as with Sirius. The same stands for importing the channel list into Orb and Winamp – you need to exactly the same tricks to make them available for local transcoding. Therefore, please read the Sirius tutorial on all these questions.
Questions, of course, are welcome. Feel free to tell me if you still need a step-by-step tutorial on XM Radio. Again, as everything is done in EXACTLY the same way as with Sirius, I don’t think you’ll need any help.

UPDATE (01/06/2008): MoDaCo frontpage
UPDATE (01/08/2008): There is another, GREAT way of directly importing the full XM Radio playing back WMA streams (it will NOT work if your platform cannot play back WMA streams – that is, currently, anything else than Windows Mobile!). To do this, first, download THIS ASX file (right click and Save As). Open it with, say, Notepad and press Ctrl-H so that the search / replace dialog is activated.
In the “Find what” textfield, enter “XM_USERNAME”; in the “Replace with”, your e-mail address:
Then, click the Replace All button.
Do the same mass-change to your password; then, you’ll need to enter “XM_PASSWORD” in the “Find what” textfield (and, of course, your password in the “Replace with”).
Note that you can also change all occurrences of “speed=high” to “speed=low” if you prefer listening to the low-quality stream. (But, again, it’s in no way recommended; if you do want to preserve bandwidth costs / want a GPRS-compliant stream, strongly consider running a transcoder on your desktop PC and using the vastly superior HE-AAC v2 format).
Now, just transfer the saved and modified ASX file to your handset and click it so that your WMA-capable player (WMP by default) imports it:
Now, you can change any channel from inside the player. Pretty cool, isn’t it?
(Thanks for HowardForums forum member volwrath for the original tip!)

Thanks for the great tutorial. I am having a problem, though. I am running Alex's 1.62 ROM and whenever I try to listen to XM, I log in without problem, Windows Media loads, the name of the station apears and it says buffering. It will buffer for 10-15 seconds. Then it will say connecting. But next is will say paused and nothing wil play. Happens everytime. Didn't have this problem in earlier ROMs.
Do you have any ideas on what is going on or what is wrong? This ROM is otherwise perfect but it's frustrating that I can't log into my XM account with my Tilt. any suggestions would be apreciated.
In my searching I have seen a number of people with this issue but no solutuons.
I have not tried your other sugestion in the update post and will do so. but in the meantime any ideas would be welcome. even if it to say sorry or get a new ROM.
Thanks again.

Menneisyys, great tip. Never mind my prior post. The template works GREAT!!! I am now a VERY happy camper. Thanks for posting this. I searched for weeks for a solution and just today found this via a search on my Tilt via Google. Thanks again!

Can this work with mortplayer?
This works great, but I cannot get it to stream over mortplayer. Is it just me?

Good work Werner! Been using uXM for several months with great results. Works very well as a service too using the old NT tools Instrsrv.exe and Srvany.exe (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890).
Cheers!

Sorry for the double post...

ppclover said:
This works great, but I cannot get it to stream over mortplayer. Is it just me?
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as is explained in my related Bible ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/old_blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2350&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more2350 ), MortPlayer doesn't support WMA streaming.

i decided to use the method in post 2 and everything works great, thanks menneisyys.
EDIT: sorry i just saw it in post 1 /just one little question is there a way to get the song info to display on wmp thanks/

one more question, does anyone know a way around getting the xm error "we're sorry the channel is not available please logout and try again" i am assuming that this is because every channel i click on logs me in, so is there some way i can log in then change the stations with out keep logging in. i have tried to removed the username and password from all the channels except 1 and see if it will let me switch channels but it does not let me. thanks in advance

irus said:
one more question, does anyone know a way around getting the xm error "we're sorry the channel is not available please logout and try again" i am assuming that this is because every channel i click on logs me in, so is there some way i can log in then change the stations with out keep logging in. i have tried to removed the username and password from all the channels except 1 and see if it will let me switch channels but it does not let me. thanks in advance
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ya... having problems with that as well.. I don't think that's going to be a viable option..
I've had uXm setup as a service on my server before I found this thread but I can't seem to find any app that will stream it... I would have thought wmplayer would but it doesn't seem to like the format?
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nevermind.. gotta check the box to make the http urls... yay working now
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strange I'm still getting that dumb "we're sorry..." message when I use uxm direct url's too! It only seems to happen when going forward in the list tho never happens when going backward... it it opens up a mms:// url to play the msg I don't understand how/why it's happening with uXM links.

Zenoran said:
ya... having problems with that as well.. I don't think that's going to be a viable option..
I've had uXm setup as a service on my server before I found this thread but I can't seem to find any app that will stream it... I would have thought wmplayer would but it doesn't seem to like the format?
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nevermind.. gotta check the box to make the http urls... yay working now
EDITEDIT:
strange I'm still getting that dumb "we're sorry..." message when I use uxm direct url's too! It only seems to happen when going forward in the list tho never happens when going backward... it it opens up a mms:// url to play the msg I don't understand how/why it's happening with uXM links.
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its still not working for me and not i don't even get the "we're sorry..." error it just goes to the next link and then the next link etc. has anyone figured this out yet?

Perhaps a fix to xm radio?
Hey guys, I was a huge fan of xstreamxm, but it seems to have stopped working....
I built my own version and it's working for time being, all be it way too flakey
check it out, let me know if it does or doesn't work for you, and let me know what needs to be done. I know the station names are super out of date, but i'm working to get those parsed from xm asap...
let me know anything else that comes up...
*you may have to try the process several times, sometimes a blank page comes up after login, and i can't seem to see why...*
I think it's only working for mobile platforms right now as well. and btw, i'm not a coder, just a bored college student so don't bash too hard
http://bdawg.org/xm

I tried the second method. However I could only do it on the school's computer, which doesn't have notepad. Microsoft Word won't let me save as a .asx file (I'm assuming that's how we want it saved). So how do I save it in such a way that my phone will recognize it as a streaming file?

[App][2.2+] DreamStreamoid - TV everywhere (3G with android, VLC and dreambox)

I’d like to introduce DreamStreamoid.
DreamStreamoid is an android client for enigma2 receivers (e.g. Dreambox, VU+, IPBox, QBox).
The focus is on the streaming of TV, radio and recordings.
You can easily stream channels and recordings, switch channels, browse the EPG, choose bitrates and scalings via the mobile phone and much more.
It is possible to stream your audio and video content to your phone where ever you are, if you have at least a 3G internet connection (over a VLC server).
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Here, you can find more informations and help:
http://dreamstreamoid.zey.de/en
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Hey
Very cool app - works great!

Great, works well - any chance you can add support for SSL?

Possibly!
The problem is, that VLC doesn’t support https!
And using the enigma WebIf over https, the way other tools (like dreamdroid) are doing that, doesn’t seem much more secure!
In a other thread, I’ve found this:
The problem with https is, you can never be sure, that the box you are talking to is your receiver.
Because every dreambox has the same certificate! Or am I wrong?
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That’s certainly right!
It would be most secure, if you create a own ssl certificate and exchange it between phone and receiver.
I could imagine to write a ssl proxy running on the VLC-PC or receiver.
The challenge is to make it easy to use.
We will see…
If anybody has a different opinion – please, let me know!

Hello
It seems, that several users have problems to configure DreamStreamoid, especially 3G streaming.
So, I’ve improved the help pages on
dreamstreamoid.zey.de/en
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Hey
Meanwhile, it's available in version 1.0 and in a cool pro version!

Hi...
I tried this and I have to say that this is quite cool but...
I can live-stream and watch also recordings but:
- I cannot watch all recordings... it seems that short ones are ok but longer not
- Also DreamStreamoid Server this is not even running and these are working??
- DreamStreamoid Server.exe crashes when I am trying to start it?? (windows 7 ultimate 32 bit)

PeeHoo said:
Hi...
I tried this and I have to say that this is quite cool but...
I can live-stream and watch also recordings but:
- I cannot watch all recordings... it seems that short ones are ok but longer not
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This shouldn't be a problem.
Perhaps, you've tried to stream HD recordings.
HD doesn't work very well!
- Also DreamStreamoid Server this is not even running and these are working??
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DreamStreamoid Server is only used to shutdown the computer from your phone and it does work only with the pro version!
- DreamStreamoid Server.exe crashes when I am trying to start it?? (windows 7 ultimate 32 bit)
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You need the .NET framework 2.0 or higher.
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torstenzey said:
This shouldn't be a problem.
Perhaps, you've tried to stream HD recordings.
HD doesn't work very well!
DreamStreamoid Server is only used to shutdown the computer from your phone and it does work only with the pro version!
You need the .NET framework 2.0 or higher.
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They are not HD recordings but about 50% is working after second trying...
I do have .NET framework and approximately 10% starts is working - 90% crashes.
However is there any tweaks at VLC-side to get DVB-subtitles working?

That's all very weird!
I've never heard of such problems!
Must be something with your pc.
Subtitles are not possible with DreamStreamoid.
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Tool to restart the vlc service process?
Hello Torsten,
First of all, thanks for this great tool!
But I've got 2 questions:
1) After I've watch one channel via 3G and I want to watch a other channel then 9 out of 10 times I only hear a sound chip and then nothing happens.
After I restart the VLC service process (which is allot faster to do then to reboot the whole machine (which by the way; the pro plug in works great ) then I can watch successfully to a other channel.
So can you upgrade the pro plug in so that the user can choose to just only restart the VLC service process or the server?
(My config; Latest VLC version (v1.1.11) and Win7 64-Bit).
2) Is it possible to use fast forward (or skip to xx:xx time frame),etc, when 3G and VLC is being used to watch recordings? (This seems only to be working locally when using Vplayer).
Thanks in advance!!

Hi
pd2mvj said:
Hello Torsten,
First of all, thanks for this great tool!
But I've got 2 questions:
1) After I've watch one channel via 3G and I want to watch a other channel then 9 out of 10 times I only hear a sound chip and then nothing happens.
After I restart the VLC service process (which is allot faster to do then to reboot the whole machine (which by the way; the pro plug in works great ) then I can watch successfully to a other channel.
So can you upgrade the pro plug in so that the user can choose to just only restart the VLC service process or the server?
(My config; Latest VLC version (v1.1.11) and Win7 64-Bit).
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Until now, I've never heard of this problem.
It looks like your computer is a bit too slow.
Do you try to stream HD channels?
If you want, you can send me the VLC logs.
Perhaps I can find out anything.
(Messages-Dialog/Level 2)
2) Is it possible to use fast forward (or skip to xx:xx time frame),etc, when 3G and VLC is being used to watch recordings? (This seems only to be working locally when using Vplayer).
Thanks in advance!!
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I've implemented that a few weeks ago.
But I haven't published it, because VLC has problems to keep audio and video in sync. I haven't found a solution for that
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Hi
Since the last post DreamStreamoid has received many new features.
You can find more infos here:
http://dreamstreamoid.zey.de/en
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ZAP not working
I have dreamstreamoid up and running over 3G just great - BUT - when I select another channel (zwap) the reciever does not change channel so streaming fails.
Any sugestions?
For the time beeing I use anoter app to change channel then request stream - OK

Hi matsene
DreamStreamoid doesn't switch channels on your TV.
If you use a receiver with only one tuner, you can turn your box into standby.
That will solve your problem.
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ZAP not working
OK - then i suggest that you add functionality so that I can control what channels to stream from the dramstreamoid - avoiding the need to use e.g DreamDroid to switch channels.
Best Regards

Hi! i am strugling to get the enigma plugin to work, i ahve vu+ duo and copied the dreamstreamoid folder to extesions folder. set passwords and port and opened ports in router. but i do not know if it is running or not ? I can not turn on vlc pc, so something is wrong...
Can someone help?

Hi praun
The plugin runs in backround.
You can't see anything!
Sometimes I will enhance the plugin with a log window or something like that.
It is probably a problem of the configuration of your PC.
You have to enable WOL in the BIOS and Windows.
Perhaps, you try a WOL Client from a second PC or try a WOL-App on your phone.
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it possible my pc on work as a vlc server pc ?
im new here i like this software from all other apps because it the only one can stream to 3g.
the problme is that i dont whant to use my pc on my home as vlc server so my question is
if it possible to use my pc at work as a vlc server ?
(my pc at work is online 24/7 and i have control to open any port there it behind fortiget firewall)
if it possible how to do that ?

Hi avinaimi
It could be possible, if you have a very high upload bandwith at home.
I would say at least 7-8Mbit/s. And you should use a VPN. Otherwise it is not secure.
You could use the PRO version. With that, you can switch your PC on and off from your phone!
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File Transfer

How do you connect to a computer to transfer files. My laptop doesnt have bluetooth, so i wasnt sure how to connect.
Do i also need to have a file manager installed on the watch to transfer them?
want to put music, and find a way install some personal ringtones.
Has anyone been able to change to a personal ringtone as well?

primus123 said:
How do you connect to a computer to transfer files. My laptop doesnt have bluetooth, so i wasnt sure how to connect.
Do i also need to have a file manager installed on the watch to transfer them?
want to put music, and find a way install some personal ringtones.
Has anyone been able to change to a personal ringtone as well?
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I have s2 classic so not sure about sport/3g models, but with mine there is only a bluetooth or wifi connection. So I put whatever files i need to transfer on my phone first, then use the gear manager app to transfer them to my watch. Music and photos are easy through the app. For other stuff like pdf, etc you need to rename those files to a video or music extension like .mp3, then move them through gear manager to the watch, then use a watch app like filemaster to rename the file on your watch back to pdf. Not sure about ring tones, haven't looked into that yet. Hope this helps.

sefrcoko said:
I have s2 classic so not sure about sport/3g models, but with mine there is only a bluetooth or wifi connection. So I put whatever files i need to transfer on my phone first, then use the gear manager app to transfer them to my watch. Music and photos are easy through the app. For other stuff like pdf, etc you need to rename those files to a video or music extension like .mp3, then move them through gear manager to the watch, then use a watch app like filemaster to rename the file on your watch back to pdf. Not sure about ring tones, haven't looked into that yet. Hope this helps.
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With a file manager on the watch, can you obtain root access? Really aren't too many developmental threads on the watches. Guess the demand isn't high enough to have people in development stages.
Which brings me to another question. If I started to develop an app, how would you transfer to the watch?

.... i need an app to taking files from phone directly to gear s2....
I'm shure. is the only way for resolving a lot of problems, 4 example see photo of watsupp or any other not supported app

primus123 said:
With a file manager on the watch, can you obtain root access? Really aren't too many developmental threads on the watches. Guess the demand isn't high enough to have people in development stages.
Which brings me to another question. If I started to develop an app, how would you transfer to the watch?
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Not sure about root on tizen... hopefully more devs get involved in the future. Tizen started off small but is starting to increase it's presence in the market with the popularity of its Gear smartwatch line.
If you develop an app I assume you would connect the watch to your home wifi network and then connect your home pc to the watch using sdb. I could be wrong, but not seeing any other way.

Folks, I know this is almost off-topic, but Is there any way to transfer music files through this method?

solid_37 said:
.... i need an app to taking files from phone directly to gear s2....
I'm shure. is the only way for resolving a lot of problems, 4 example see photo of watsupp or any other not supported app
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http://slandmedia.com/apps/gear/Filesmaster/
it can copy files from phone to gear s2, from s2 to s2 and from a computer to s2 (need to download plugin for
computer). basic app for me for s2 activities

primus123 said:
How do you connect to a computer to transfer files. My laptop doesnt have bluetooth, so i wasnt sure how to connect.
Do i also need to have a file manager installed on the watch to transfer them?
want to put music, and find a way install some personal ringtones.
Has anyone been able to change to a personal ringtone as well?
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definietly Filesmaster, it can copy files from a phone, another watch or computer

primus123 said:
How do you connect to a computer to transfer files. My laptop doesnt have bluetooth, so i wasnt sure how to connect.
Do i also need to have a file manager installed on the watch to transfer them?
want to put music, and find a way install some personal ringtones.
Has anyone been able to change to a personal ringtone as well?
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You can use Filesmaster. It is installed on Gear S2 and it allows to transfer files to your watch from a phone, another watch S2 and from computer.
It put transferred files to appropriate folders on watch like mp3 to music, pictures to pictures, movies to videos folder.
Read about filesmaster
http://slandmedia.com/apps/gear/Filesmaster/
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No Phone?
Can Filesmaster be installed on the Gear S2 without a compatible Android phone?
I found a thread about deploying apps into the Gear S2, to find it, google "Developer: How to deploy to Gear S2 smartwatch - Tizen Experts". Fairly complicated, it requires several developer tools, but it works. I could not figure out where to put music files though!

balserodeluxe said:
Can Filesmaster be installed on the Gear S2 without a compatible Android phone?
I found a thread about deploying apps into the Gear S2, to find it, google "Developer: How to deploy to Gear S2 smartwatch - Tizen Experts". Fairly complicated, it requires several developer tools, but it works. I could not figure out where to put music files though!
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Yes, there is Filesmaster Standalone in Samsung Apps store. It doesn't need Android plugin.

balserodeluxe said:
Can Filesmaster be installed on the Gear S2 without a compatible Android phone?
I found a thread about deploying apps into the Gear S2, to find it, google "Developer: How to deploy to Gear S2 smartwatch - Tizen Experts". Fairly complicated, it requires several developer tools, but it works. I could not figure out where to put music files though!
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Yes, but Filesmaster Standalone. It doesn't use Android phone.

Can't find Filesmaster In Samsung Store
bagmanone said:
Yes, but Filesmaster Standalone. It doesn't use Android phone.
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I cann ot find a standalone Filesmaster in Samsung App store, do you have a link

Yes, you can use Filesmaster Standalone to transfer files between any Android phone and Gear S2.
You have download Filesmaster Mobile Plugin from Google Play. It uses Bluetooth connection. You can
transfer files for both directions. Additionally you can transfer files from/to computer via theirs application
launched on a computer called Filesmaster Desktop Plugin. All download from filesmaster home page
http://slandmedia.com/apps/gear/Filesmaster/
I have installed last version 4.0.1 and they added function to send files as attachment to email.