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Im trying to watch either .mp4 or .mkv but both lag in stock player and moboplayer. Anybody get this to work with zero lag?
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I get no lag using Vital Player.
Popsiclestand said:
I get no lag using Vital Player.
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Just tried that and it lagged a lot...
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What are the specs on the videos that you are trying to play?
Here is a vid of me using Vital Player on the transformer with a H.264 encoded MP4 and an MKV movie. No lag, no sync issues.
http://vimeo.com/23927515
If the movies you're trying to watch are encoded with High profile then playback will be laggy no matter what on the TF.
Popsiclestand said:
What are the specs on the videos that you are trying to play?
Here is a vid of me using Vital Player on the transformer with a H.264 encoded MP4 and an MKV movie. No lag, no sync issues.
http://vimeo.com/23927515
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Nice!
Okay I'm a new when it comes ti all these video formats.. all I know is that I get choppy playback
So this handles 1080 but with some tweaks I'm assuming..again, I'm a new at this
Were those movies you converted? Is so you mind writing up a little tutorial
Thanks
For the MKV, I downloaded it was already encoded so I am not sure of its specs, but the playback quality and resolution are excellent even on my desktop's 24" HD monitors.
For the MP4 played at the beginning of the video, that was shot in 1920x1080, brought into Premiere CS5 for editing and exported through Adobe Media Encoder using H.264 at 1280x720.
There are some threads with Handbrake encoding specs on the forums as well.
When using Vital player make sure the Decode Mode settings are set to automatic. It will automatically recognize there is no hardware acceleration (as I understand is normal with the Tegra-2). It will then compensate with "software acceleration". Also in the Video Mode settings I have it set to speed over quality as the performance is better without sacrificing much of the quality to my eye.
With these settings, Vital Player should play just about any video you might download off of a torrent site. I have yet to find a video that does not play well through it. I'm not sure if other users who say it does not work for them have checked the Vital Player settings, if my videos are just not up to the elusive "high profile" they are talking about, or if I just have a rare Transformer that just works, but as you can see in the video it does work for me.
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For the MKV, I downloaded it was already encoded so I am not sure of its specs, but the playback quality and resolution are excellent even on my desktop's 24" HD monitors.
For the MP4 played at the beginning of the video, that was shot in 1920x1080, brought into Premiere CS5 for editing and exported through Adobe Media Encoder using H.264 at 1280x720.
There are some threads with Handbrake encoding specs on the forums as well.
When using Vital player make sure the Decode Mode settings are set to automatic. It will automatically recognize there is no hardware acceleration (as I understand is normal with the Tegra-2). It will then compensate with "software acceleration". Also in the Video Mode settings I have it set to speed over quality as the performance is better without sacrificing much of the quality to my eye.
With these settings, Vital Player should play just about any video you might download off of a torrent site. I have yet to find a video that does not play well through it. I'm not sure if other users who say it does not work for them have checked the Vital Player settings, if my videos are just not up to the elusive "high profile" they are talking about, or if I just have a rare Transformer that just works, but as you can see in the video it does work for me.
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So you had to encode the mkv or mp4 before playback? So it cant just play them straight up?
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I believe that nearly any video you get is going to need be encoded in some form at some time.
The MKV was more than likely encoded by someone else before I downloaded, but no further encoding was necessary on my end. The MP4 was shot on my own camera (Canon 7D recording at 1920x1080p) and needed to be edited. When you export directly from the timeline in Premiere, it must be encoded to even be usable. For sites like YouTube or Vimeo to even accept them there must be encoding. The H.264 encoding that I used is the highest setting for that type of video's purpose (HD web playback). It is different than what I would have exported for burning to Blu-Ray but is adequate for a screen the size and resolution of the Transformer's.
When I return home, I will try bringing in the raw, unedited video from the 7D (which is around 3GB for a 4 minute vid at that resolution btw) and see if Vital Player plays it back with no lag. I seriously doubt it as some average computers have a hard time playing that back without lag. Even Final Cut Pro can't import raw 7D video without a conversion (Adobe Premiere does not have this problem though). Why anyone would want to play a video of this size and resolution on a tablet is beyond me (3GB for 4mins is ridiculous in a playback form). I can't even imagine wanting to watch a full length movie in that form.
Both of these videos seriously choke in any player other than Vital Player (including Mobo, QQ, and MVideo). I couldn't play any video in my library with them or the stock player, but all of these files play just fine in Vital.
I'm playing 720p with no problem
converted with Handbreak. Settings below.
container: "mp4" everything else turned off
picture: "1280x720"
video: "h.264 (x264)"
target size as least as large as the source
advanced: reference frames = 4
b-frames = 0
I'm using moboplayer and downloaded some sort of codec pack (the player prompted me the first time and opened the app store). The default player also works.
AtomicAge said:
I'm playing 720p with no problem
converted with Handbreak. Settings below.
container: "mp4" everything else turned off
picture: "1280x720"
video: "h.264 (x264)"
target size as least as large as the source
advanced: reference frames = 4
b-frames = 0
I'm using moboplayer and downloaded some sort of codec pack (the player prompted me the first time and opened the app store). The default player also works.
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Maybe that's all I was missing for the other players (I didn't get prompted to download codecs). I'll stick with Vital Player though simply because it's already on my tablet and it works.
Popsiclestand said:
Maybe that's all I was missing for the other players (I didn't get prompted to download codecs). I'll stick with Vital Player though simply because it's already on my tablet and it works.
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Ive tried lots of different players and anything i download from BitTorrent (.mkv which I convert to MP4 for my Xbox) won't play worth a damn on my transformer. They are all720p. They all lag like crazy. Can the transformer not handle this?
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tsatrom said:
Ive tried lots of different players and anything i download from BitTorrent (.mkv which I convert to MP4 for my Xbox) won't play worth a damn on my transformer. They are all720p. They all lag like crazy. Can the transformer not handle this?
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90% of all HD videos you download the internet are ripped from blu-ray and likely encoded with high profile h264 because that's what looks best. the tegra 2 cannot handle these files at 720 or 1080p, and thus they need to be re-encoded to main profile, which as i understand it, means a much lower bitrate (and thus worse picture).
you can read more about it here
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=98211 (bottom of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
fakeyfakerson said:
you can read more about it here
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=98211 (bottom of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
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Thanks guys
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I got all excited because of this thread...but I just gave VitalPlayer a shot on a 720p high profile x264 and it still sucks. No artifacts but the framerate is really low it seems.
In case anyone is interested I did receive this message from ASUS:
"On this issue, we have tested some of the 1080p video is playing well. We have cooperation with google and will launch android 3.1 in June to resolve the 720p and 1080p video playback problems."
We'll see...
GetLaid said:
I got all excited because of this thread...but I just gave VitalPlayer a shot on a 720p high profile x264 and it still sucks. No artifacts but the framerate is really low it seems.
In case anyone is interested I did receive this message from ASUS:
"On this issue, we have tested some of the 1080p video is playing well. We have cooperation with google and will launch android 3.1 in June to resolve the 720p and 1080p video playback problems."
We'll see...
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i believe that is flash only, as in 720/1080 youtube streaming which is much lower quality than a high profile blu-ray rip. the problem is tegra 2, which is a year old, not supporting 720/1080p playback. it's the reason boxee box dropped tegra for an intel chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
this thread seems to do a pretty good job of explaining everything and going through how to get HD vids working
Hello everyone. I would like to see the footage shot by my camera (Panasonic TM700) directly on the TF in order to get a larger preview of that offered by the display of the camera. The problem is that I have not found any player that would display the correct file type MTS shot in 1080/50p. I think this isn't a problem of processor (I have a media player with a sigma 800mhz and movies run fine), but a problem of proper codec ....... Do I have some hope that there is a codec for the development of this TF?
Maybe you could contact the developers of those video applications? Does ffmpeg read those files (does mplayer?) - if so, it should be easily doable. Does VLC read those files? There is supposed to be a version of VLC for Android one day but no one know when. Also keep in mind that decoding on your media player could be hardware accelerated and idependend of the processor while TF has to use software decoding.
MTS is part of the AVCHD video format.
I'm not sure if moboplayer will play this, and even if it does,
i doubt it will be without stuttering like crazy, but thats pretty much dependant
on the bitrate of your MTS files.
you could try to remux the audio and video streams from the MTS to an MP4 container or an mkv even.
Google for MTS2MP4 which might be of help.
Try XenonMKV or GOTSent for any mkv remuxing.
Or reencode the whole thing alltogether (which you are likely trying to avoid)
goodluck
Android 3.0+ supports mpeg transport streams with AAC audio only...
The native media player object of Android (hardware accelerated) does _not_ even play fluidly TS files. So you're out of luck for out-of-the-box playback.
I use Handbrake to reencode to MP4 container with AAC audio. Works fine on my TF, but a lot has to be lost in terms of quality to make it playable. Search the forums for the Handbrake 3.1 guide.
any news about an app that can play MTS files?
thnkx, Danilo
not for me
dice player with the tegra plugin works for me. mts m2ts
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TGA_Gunnman said:
dice player with the tegra plugin works for me. mts m2ts
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already talk with the developer about iisue of MTS h.264 720p files. these files will not work on dice player. he said it take some time to enable that...
...and i was searching for h264 mts 1080p!!!???....but tegra2 doesn't support it
kukky said:
...and i was searching for h264 mts 1080p!!!???....but tegra2 doesn't support it
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its an Mkv right??
if im not wrong you can use some mkv player, but those are also hard to get
I have some file video hd 720 on kf. So what the soft for play that?
Thansk
you an try VLC Media
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275179
I use Moboplayer. Works well with all formats including Matroska.
yeah, you could try the MOBOplayer, works on many video formats well.
For playing videos onto Kindle fire, you should check the Kindle Fire support formats first:
Audio: AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV,
Video: MP4, VP8
Best Kindle Fire video formats for playback:
Video Encoder: H.264, Audio Encoder: AAC
Resolution: 800*480 , Video Bitrate: 2500 kbps
If you can't get any apps to play the videos on Kindle fire correctly, maybe you could try converting with tools like this:
http://www.marketpressrelease.com/Aneesoft-Released-Kindle-Fire-Converter-Software-1323134188.html
How did you get it to show up in your "Videos" listing? I copied a couple MP4 files to my "Videos" folder after downloading them into the "download" folder but it's not showing up when I hit the devices tab of the videos library. It still shows empty movies and TV tabs.
MoboPlayer!
Have Moboplayer installed but it's very laggy when playing 720p video clip, any idea ?
ZzFDKzZ said:
MoboPlayer!
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Love Mobo on my Nexus S. I can't get videos to go fullscreen when I sideload it onto the KF. Anyone else have this problem?
mx player is good for playing mkv/mp4 files you copy to the fire, but you have to get the apk from the android market. bsplayer is awesome on my phone but I tried it on the fire and it won't stream across smb
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How did you get it to show up in your "Videos" listing? I copied a couple MP4 files to my "Videos" folder after downloading them into the "download" folder but it's not showing up when I hit the devices tab of the videos library. It still shows empty movies and TV tabs.
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The videos in that folder are recognized a little differently; mostly that they won't be polled as library videos in the way you (and I) have tried. If you're using the native KindleFire launcher, you'll have to put them in a different folder and use a file browser app to locate/launch them. I've gotten them to show up on the shelf in the 'Photos' folder, coincidentally.
Bummer that BSplayer doesn't work on the Kindle -- it's the only app that can play all my high res videos on my phone, without trouble -- wmv, mts, avi, mp4, mpg, chews through any of them...of course 1080 doesn't count for much on a 3.5" screen, which is why I want so badly for bsplayer to be updated to work on Kindle Fire.
Maybe if more people emailed the developers asking for Kindle Fire support...
I think rock player is one of your best player...
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Mobo Player or Mx video Player
I think so, i used both of them . so good
jb0ne said:
Bummer that BSplayer doesn't work on the Kindle -- it's the only app that can play all my high res videos on my phone, without trouble -- wmv, mts, avi, mp4, mpg, chews through any of them...of course 1080 doesn't count for much on a 3.5" screen, which is why I want so badly for bsplayer to be updated to work on Kindle Fire.
Maybe if more people emailed the developers asking for Kindle Fire support...
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BsPlayer does work on the Kindle, i use it, had played through 720p .mp4 , 720p.mkv and .avi
all of them worked fine..
I tried Moboplayer and MX player and both lagged as heck playing a 720p on KF.
I personally like Mobo player, i used it earlier for lower quality movies but for 720p its unusable...
Any other app that runs 720p without laggs?
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jb0ne said:
Bummer that BSplayer doesn't work on the Kindle -- it's the only app that can play all my high res videos on my phone, without trouble -- wmv, mts, avi, mp4, mpg, chews through any of them...of course 1080 doesn't count for much on a 3.5" screen, which is why I want so badly for bsplayer to be updated to work on Kindle Fire.
Maybe if more people emailed the developers asking for Kindle Fire support...
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Someone already did it:
http://forum.bsplayer.com/bsplayer-android/13208-amason-kindle-fire.html
While Kindle Fire not brought to Europe BSPlaer will not work. Or we can wait for the developers added the support for the OMAP 4430 ... Probably will work on our devices ..
Have any of you guys tried Diceplayer?
Dice Player don't support Kindle Fire yet. And if you load some video this crash system and reboot device. Oh and thumbnail must to be off.
Hello,
Did you guys manage to find any player that works good with 720p mkv? (interested in HW decoding)
I am on CM7 and struggling to make mxvideo work in HW decoding mode but it works only for some files, for the majority it still uses SW decoding and that is heating up the fire and eating up battery faster.
Movie playback is one of the main reasons I got the fire so if you guys have any suggestions I would appreciate them.
Also, BSplayer lite seems to fail completely on CM7, it crashes after opening. The same with dice player, which runs great on my HTC Sensation, using HW playback on almost all the formats.
Any feedback from those of you who still got stock rom or CM9 and tested video playback with mkv 720p? I didn't have a chance to test on stock as I installed CM7 almost right away.
Thanks
Thank god I am not the only one still looking for this..
I really need some App that runs smoothly in a rush, so if anyone have any app in mind to try out, don't be afraid to suggest!
On CM9 its pretty hopeless for now, as hardware accelerated graphics still doesn't work... ( i think )
I just switched back from CM9 hoping that I will be able to load some movies for trip...
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Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
Why bother?
Use MX Player Pro and it plays AVI fine. In fact, I stream this from my NAS and play all kinds of video formats using MX Player Pro.
No conversion needed.
There are many video players as well.
stevefxp said:
Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
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Here is Moto's guidelines on formats and rates supported.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...3258/~/motorola-xoom---optimal-video-settings
I use MX Player Pro and am happy with it in general. But the Xoom is a little picky/sensitive to hi-rate files. I have a lot of high-rate MOV's that need to be downsized to to not stutter terrribly. Same for very hi-rate AVI's.
stevefxp said:
Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
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Maybe the avi files are more compressed than what you're converting to. I use Rock Player it will play files that MX Player won't.
al mon said:
Why bother?
Use MX Player Pro and it plays AVI fine. In fact, I stream this from my NAS and play all kinds of video formats using MX Player Pro.
No conversion needed.
There are many video players as well.
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+1 here. I use mx pro with MediaHouse to stream from my dlna server. Only problem is the high profile stuff. I have a massive collection of teh prawnz all in wmv and mx plays them nicely
+1 for MX. Swipe to ff/rw was enough to get me to try it, the 3 decode options made me keep it. If a video won't play, long press on the file, and you can choose between hw/sw/sw fast decode. So far, I haven't found a video that fails all 3.
Video Conversion
You want to convert videos use handbrake ( mac or pc ) . It's fast and makes great looking video , or use sb player on the device itself .
Try The qq player meanwhile the mx player is Very good
stevefxp said:
Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
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It is quite normal for re-encodes to end up bigger than the original due to it trying to up-scale the video/audio. Like others in the thread, i suggest using MX player for avi's (never had any problems with them,) or using Handbrake to downscale/re-encode/etc 1080i/p videos to something that the Xoom can handle easier. I have had problems with high resolution mkv's (even sometimes 720p) even in MX.
Does the TF300 have any issues playing HD content? Can it play 1080p without lag? What about 1080p 10GB+ mkv files? Any problems with x264 or xvid codecs? How is the screen for watching movies?
Thank you.
I tested MKVs with more then 10GBs in 1080p resolution and everything works fine. You need BS Player for playback
I use mx player for smaller files as i like the swipes on it but the bs player plays everything perfect no matter the size and the quality is bang on
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i think you should root yours and disable the smartdimmer "feature",