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hi,i take it the experia play wont be able to handle a ps2 emulator and roms ? FPSE is good but a lot of roms wont work & crash a lot
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hi,i take it the experia play wont be able to handle a ps2 emulator and roms ? FPSE is good but a lot of roms wont work & crash a lot
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Sadly it is the case.. It's too great a task to emulate a system with 1/4 the hardware of the host. Sony could do it, I fathom, because they can reprogram all they like as the original kit is theirs, but it is not in their plans as it would cost them dear.
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My old 2.2 ghz duo core PC with 4670 Radeon couldn't smoothly run PS2 emulators.
A stock Xperia Play has no chance.
An overclocked Play at 1.4-1.6 ghz with a massively optimised PS2 emulator MIGHT be able to run some games smoothly.
But it won't ever happen.
No developer is going to spend all his time doing this for free, and based on the extremely poor PS1 sales, Sony won't bother either.
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My old 2.2 ghz duo core PC with 4670 Radeon couldn't smoothly run PS2 emulators.
A stock Xperia Play has no chance.
An overclocked Play at 1.4-1.6 ghz with a massively optimised PS2 emulator MIGHT be able to run some games smoothly.
But it won't ever happen.
No developer is going to spend all his time doing this for free, and based on the extremely poor PS1 sales, Sony won't bother either.
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i doubt the PS1 sales would be so low if they had some decent titles available.
I don't think they care about their PS1 sales at all. The cost of making an emulator (provided that you MADE the original hardware), ripping some ROMs off their database and encrypting them is minute. I am sure licensing Final Fantasy games alone would be more costly than any other cost involved.
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i doubt the PS1 sales would be so low if they had some decent titles available.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
The graphics and gameplay are quite bad in all honesty in PS1 games.
The Xperia Play is getting a nice list of games worth purchasing that are way better than the PS1 titles.
Backstab, Spiderman, Nova 2, Assassins Creed, Guns n Glory, Bruce Lee, Cordy, Asphalt 6, Sacred Odessy, Tom Clancy.
The list goes on and on and on. All of these games are excellent. And Gameloft and Glu and others are continuing to make excellent games.
The graphics rock, the games rock.
And best of all, you can pick them up for £1. (about 1.5 USA dollars).
Incredible value for money.
Why bother with PS1 games again?
Why bother with PS1 games again?
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Maybe because almost every game in the Android market was probably taken from a PS1 game idea or from prior consoles, and shown in its best quality there? Or even in Android itself?
Backstab, Assasin's Creed and so on can be perfectly compared to Tenchu and Metal Gear Solid.
Cordy is an absolute COPY of Pandemonium.
There were Spiderman games in PS1.
Asphalt has much more interesting counterparts (Gran Turismo, Need for Speed, Ridge Racer, Test Drive...).
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six... erm... well, featured in PSX.
And needless to say, there are 6 or 7 sagas of fighting games which wipe the floor with Bruce Lee.
Sacred Oddysey? Take Diablo, Vagrant Story... surely those games which stood the test of time did not need any DLC to keep gamers hooked.
NOVA 2 does even have a counterpart in the PSStore: Syphon Filter.
I won't even comment on a tower defense game such as Guns and Glory.
The list does go on and on and on and on. I'll pick interesting gameplay for 2002-worthy graphics any time.
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Maybe because almost every game in the Android market was probably taken from a PS1 game idea or from prior consoles, and shown in its best quality there? Or even in Android itself?
Backstab, Assasin's Creed and so on can be perfectly compared to Tenchu and Metal Gear Solid.
Cordy is an absolute COPY of Pandemonium.
There were Spiderman games in PS1.
Asphalt has much more interesting counterparts (Gran Turismo, Need for Speed, Ridge Racer, Test Drive...).
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six... erm... well, featured in PSX.
And needless to say, there are 6 or 7 sagas of fighting games which wipe the floor with Bruce Lee.
Sacred Oddysey? Take Diablo, Vagrant Story... surely those games which stood the test of time did not need any DLC to keep gamers hooked.
NOVA 2 does even have a counterpart in the PSStore: Syphon Filter.
I won't even comment on a tower defense game such as Guns and Glory.
The list does go on and on and on and on. I'll pick interesting gameplay for 2002-worthy graphics any time.
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I have been gaming since before the spectrum 48k. Playstation games are copies of their previous incarnations of games machines before them too.
I guess you started gaming when the ps1 came out and your mind sees it as "the originator of everything"
Don't get me wrong, I have a ton of ps1 games on my phone and play them with fpse. Currently playing point blank and time crisis, both of which I owned with the force feed kick back gun btw
My point wasn't to bash the ps1, but rather highlight the fact that gameloft games are pretty dam awesome that makes the ps1 titles take a back seat
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Sadly it is the case.. It's too great a task to emulate a system with 1/4 the hardware of the host. Sony could do it, I fathom, because they can reprogram all they like as the original kit is theirs, but it is not in their plans as it would cost them dear.
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While this is true for emulation, it isn't necessarily for ports. The PS2 uses a RISC-Processor and with a bit luck, it's features are still (partly) present in our ARM-Processor, which is basically a RISC with more features (altho possibly completely different ones). This holds also true with PSP games, which are probably even easier to port, as the PSP has a much less complex processor than the PS2 and just more power.
So, basically, we COULD see PS2/PSP ports on the Play - it's just a question if Sony can be arsed to produce them. Then again, they're apparently currently hard at work porting PSP games to the PS3 as "HD Remakes" - so who knows, maybe they'll port them with the Playstation suite already and as such, they'll work on our Play/Tegra 2 Android Devices/NGP.
My first real conscious gaming was on the Sega MegaDrive/Genesis (I was 5 yo when I beat Sonic The Hedgehog ). But there is no denying that the PSOne, as the first successful 3D-console, allowed for the first time to explore concepts then-revolutionary which are now, almost 20 years later, dead horses. Your point is valid, the PSOne had very successful sagas coming from very old ideas, such as Worms...
The problem is not only that these Gameloft, Glu and other big name companies' games are not innovative, which can be of course excused because you can make good unoriginal games anytime, but that their innovations tend to focus on three aspects: quick gaming and gratification (achievements), social gaming (aka more MMORPGS and social-cooperative games like Farmville and the whole lot) and the ways to monetize said gaming (in-game adverts, DLC).
Of course, these characteristics make sense in a smartphone, a multi-tasking device which you won't usually use for the same purpose for hours, and particularly not gaming because it is uncomfortable; aside of that, it's a device you use to communicate with other people, so it makes sense that the "social" angle of gaming (sharing achievements, shed light to MMORPGs and SCGs) is exploited: and of course, given that they're simple games that people don't like to be charged large sums for, it's normal that you want to explore advertising as a revenue source.
However, I would say that heavy gamers (the people who buy this phone) crave for something deeper, games with complex stories, puzzles and strategic thinking: RPG's, strategic games à la Fire Emblem, graphical adventures... None of that is present in our devices: Zenonia is a fairly good game for a Zelda-like, but the English translation is absolutely horrible, which deprives a lot from the story's epos. Spectral Souls costs $15, no thanks. Sacred Oddysey requires DLC...
It's just too big a clash: when I was young enough to be scammed into buying game magazines, games like Angry Birds would have been massacred in magazines and panned in sales, and now they're all-present and hailed as some sort of vanguard. I am terrified that some day Superman 64 will come back to life with slightly improved graphics, revamped with some of its multiplayer karting and become a smashing success.
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My first real conscious gaming was on the Sega MegaDrive/Genesis (I was 5 yo when I beat Sonic The Hedgehog ). But there is no denying that the PSOne, as the first successful 3D-console, allowed for the first time to explore concepts then-revolutionary which are now, almost 20 years later, dead horses. Your point is valid, the PSOne had very successful sagas coming from very old ideas, such as Worms...
The problem is not only that these Gameloft, Glu and other big name companies' games are not innovative, which can be of course excused because you can make good unoriginal games anytime, but that their innovations tend to focus on three aspects: quick gaming and gratification (achievements), social gaming (aka more MMORPGS and social-cooperative games like Farmville and the whole lot) and the ways to monetize said gaming (in-game adverts, DLC).
Of course, these characteristics make sense in a smartphone, a multi-tasking device which you won't usually use for the same purpose for hours, and particularly not gaming because it is uncomfortable; aside of that, it's a device you use to communicate with other people, so it makes sense that the "social" angle of gaming (sharing achievements, shed light to MMORPGs and SCGs) is exploited: and of course, given that they're simple games that people don't like to be charged large sums for, it's normal that you want to explore advertising as a revenue source.
However, I would say that heavy gamers (the people who buy this phone) crave for something deeper, games with complex stories, puzzles and strategic thinking: RPG's, strategic games à la Fire Emblem, graphical adventures... None of that is present in our devices: Zenonia is a fairly good game for a Zelda-like, but the English translation is absolutely horrible, which deprives a lot from the story's epos. Spectral Souls costs $15, no thanks. Sacred Oddysey requires DLC...
It's just too big a clash: when I was young enough to be scammed into buying game magazines, games like Angry Birds would have been massacred in magazines and panned in sales, and now they're all-present and hailed as some sort of vanguard. I am terrified that some day Superman 64 will come back to life with slightly improved graphics, revamped with some of its multiplayer karting and become a smashing success.
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I think you have overlooked some gameloft games to be fair.
Most of them have the depth that you talk about.
Could you give me some examples? Maybe I'm missing out on something.
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Could you give me some examples? Maybe I'm missing out on something.
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Sure.
Here's a list of games i think that are either superior or just as good as any PS1 game in the same genre (mostly i think they are superior btw) -
Nova 2
Asphalt 6
Need for Speed Shift
BackBreaker 2
Dungeon Defenders Second Wave
Assasins Creed
Bruce Lee
Sacred Odyssey
Star Battalion
Guns n Glory
BackStab
Cordy
Hockey Nations 2011
Aporkalypse
Age of Zombies
Modern Combat 2
Guerrilla Bob
Toki Toki
Reckless Racing
Real Football 11
Spiderman
Air Attack HD
Brother in Arms 2
Avatar
Lets Golf 2
That's quite a few excellent games for a machine thats only just been released.
Don't forget that the Sega Saturn only got released with 4 games.
Playstation 1 only launched with 8 titles - http://thiskidplaysgames.com/home/playstation-one/256-playstation-one-launch-titles
I think the lineup of the Xperia Play games are better than the PS1 launch titles.
What you have to remember is that todays systems suffer from fragmentation. You do not get massive marketing deals with everybody playing the same thing. When everybody plays the same games it creates more of a buzz and can make the experience better.
Yea, todays gaming can be more lonely, sometimes you can feel like you are the only one playing a particular game. But you have to overlook this and go by the quality of the actual game.
Xperia Play has already some excellent games. Is it going majorly mainstream? No, ofc not. But still, the game quality of already released titles is excellent.
I am afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. Casual-oriented games and sports titles with PS2-worthy graphics are not what I'd call compelling. Have you tried Real Football? They move like dolls. PES 2006 and 2007 in the PSP were actually good... sigh.
Let's see what the E3 brings, but I'm afraid that so far I'm unconvinced.
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I am afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. Casual-oriented games and sports titles with PS2-worthy graphics are not what I'd call compelling. Have you tried Real Football? They move like dolls. PES 2006 and 2007 in the PSP were actually good... sigh.
Let's see what the E3 brings, but I'm afraid that so far I'm unconvinced.
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Ok fair comment.
I just fail to see how you can call most of the games in my list casual.
Most of them are in depth, have excellent storys and take ages to complete........
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Ok fair comment.
I just fail to see how you can call most of the games in my list casual.
Most of them are in depth, have excellent storys and take ages to complete........
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almost all gameloft games are rehashed versions of console games with decent graphics but awful gameplay.
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Ok fair comment.
I just fail to see how you can call most of the games in my list casual.
Most of them are in depth, have excellent storys and take ages to complete........
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Suuure, Asphalt, Star Batallion, Bruce Lee... incredibly long, with captivating stories. They can dethrone Chrono Trigger or Tales of Symphonia any day
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Suuure, Asphalt, Star Batallion, Bruce Lee... incredibly long, with captivating stories. They can dethrone Chrono Trigger or Tales of Symphonia any day
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Yea I totally forgot to compare beat em ups like bruce lee with rpgs.
hur dur :/
stupid comparison is stupid.
dsswoosh said:
Yea I totally forgot to compare beat em ups like bruce lee with rpgs.
hur dur :/
stupid comparison is stupid.
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bruce lee is a moist pile of **** compared to any street fighter playable on fpse.
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bruce lee is a moist pile of **** compared to any street fighter playable on fpse.
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Street Fighter wasn't original to the ps1 though was it. And that was a main point about our debates.
Tekken was the closest "original" beat em up on the ps1 imo and that was even an arcade port.
Bruce Lee is better than Tekken imo too although I am not a fan of any 3d 1v1 fighting game if I am going to be honest. I think they all suck.
Can't beat street fighter 2 turbo edition for 1v1 fighters
Lara Croft and Guardian of Light to be an Xperia Play exclusive!!!!!
Now this is great news! More and more games are coming to our PLAYs as we approach Christmas. Yey!!!
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Sounds great! That game is supposed to be really good.
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Nice! I played this on 360.
It was actually a refreshing "arcadey" change to a stale Tomb Raider formula... I always liked it, but felt like it would've been more appropriate to release on a handheld. Now that's coming true! BUYING!
and it's just the first from Square Enix.. more established titles are coming, yey!
Very awesome that there are so many Exclusives that are high end titles. That said they need to get the word out better and advertise these things some more or something. For example you wouldn't know Hot Pursuit was even available if you weren't looking for it.
I will definitely be picking this one up!
God of War or Prince of Persia could heat things up, really!
oh am i dreaming?
Yeah man.... Comin soon
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I have the game for the 360 and it's really fun, though I probably won't get it for the Play.
Looks awesome, played alot of tomb raider back in the days. I think it's starting to spread like rings in the water that this device is fantalastic
Will defo be a tittle i wil buy.
Regards Dousan...
Hopefully it will be cross-platform compatible for multiplayer like Dungeon Defenders.
Yawn, another months old iPhone port made for a quick buck. Not too exciting if you ask me.
Lol how could you not be excited about a game that received almost universally positive feedback coming to a device that is perfectly tailored for it? Hello, touchpads!
Why did you even buy this phone if something like this doesn't seem remotely cool?
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Yawn, another months old iPhone port made for a quick buck. Not too exciting if you ask me.
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Doesn't matter where it came from... The fact is, it wasn't available to us before... And now we are getting it.
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Yawn, another months old iPhone port made for a quick buck. Not too exciting if you ask me.
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Really? I love getting iPhone ports.
iPhone has a lot of great games, but iOS in general is too limited for them to be fully recognized. Porting iPhone games to Android removes everything that makes them limited... especially considering the Xperia PLAY - which has single-handedly changed the tides of smartphone gaming being un-ideal without buttons.
Quick ports for quick buck tend to be subpar, no matter how good the source material is. That's why I'm wary.
This is definitely great news for players who haven't played the game, I highly recommend this title, it's a great platformer with nice puzzle solving.
Only gripe is.. I have already finished the game on my computer :/
kershner25, Deoxlar, TLRtheory for the win!
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Why did you even buy this phone if something like this doesn't seem remotely cool?
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i couldn't agree more..
kershner25 said:
Why did you even buy this phone if something like this doesn't seem remotely cool?
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Maybe Tomb Raider, Square Enix as a brand and mindless shoot'em up games stopped being cool in the neighborhood of 2000? I bought this phone because it allows me to emulate good older games, I don't give jack **** about 99% of the "new" games (mostly poor iPhone ports or glorified casual game divertimentos ). There are still no RPG worth their salt, no absorbing plots and no strategic games. Hell, I would fawn over a Final Fantasy Tactics port even, or Crystal Chronicles...
If you want to see me hyped, bring me weird or innovative games: Katherine, Hyperdymension Neptunia, Super Magnetic Neo... I've been holding console pads for almost 20 years, and I have witnessed how companies quit the innovation race long ago.
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Maybe because Tomb Raider, Square Enix as a brand and mindless shoot'em up games stopped being cool in the neighborhood of 2000? I bought this phone because it allows me to emulate good older games, I don't give jack **** about 99% of the "new" games (mostly poor iPhone ports or glorified casual game divertimentos ).
If you want to see me hyped, bring me weird or innovative games: Katherine, Hyperdymension Neptunia, Super Magnetic Neo... I've been holding console pads for almost 20 years, and I have witnessed how companies quit the innovation race long ago.
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Tomb raider is far from a mindless shooter. Just like resident evil series, over the years the need to draw more "Casual gamers" into the series has forced the developers to tone down it's puzzle solving aspects. And as for Square not being cool anymore 2 words ..... Deus Ex
Deus Ex, Batman Arkum Asylum/City (Square Enix owns Eidos), Square Enix still makes great games.
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Hi everyone. Just want a bit of help really. I want a good Final Fantasy type RPG to sink my teeth into, and was wondering which you all think is the best. Every time I look on the Market I just keep getting MMO's, lol. It can be either 2D or 3D.
hey, i visit these forums everyday but i just forgot i had an account xD by the way, i know some titles.
Symphony of Eternity (JRPG)
Eve of the Genesis (JRPG)
Zenonia 1,2,3 (Action-JRPG much like 2d zeldas)
Eternal Legacy (JRPG, its the gameloft version of FF13, i think its quite boring)
these are also endless possibilities with emulators. even if you don't have an xplay, JRPGs are playable on touchscreen
i'd also like to expand the topic a little bit. I'm searching for western rpgs, as close as elder scrolls as possible. On android, there are some open world games like GTA3 or GOF2, but they are not rpgs, also there's no fantasy medieval setting. Earth and legend is kinda sucky and boring. Dungeon hunter 2 is a bad diablo/torchlight clone.
Then, there are emulators. On the psx theres diablo which is awesome and addictive, but its far from being a WRPG. There is also a jap-only version of ultima underworld but its, ya know... jap-only. On the snes there is ultima 6, might and magic 3, and eye of the beholder. The former has a strange system (can't really figure out what to do), the latter two are candidates even if they have parties and the action window is small. Haven't tried them yet. Exact same for Mazes of fate on the GBA. On the n64 there's gauntlet legends which is like diablo if i'm not mistaken. Then there's of course zelda OOT, MM and a bunch of horrible games like quest 64. The zelda titles are of course awesome but they're not what i'm looking for.
Someone has managed to get daggerfall running on andosbox. I tried and it went slow and laggy as in his video. However he pm'd me saying it can be made to run at full speed.
In the end, i'd really like suggestions, on android games and emulators alike. I hope i haven't gone off topic, just wanted to help bluescorpion and to not get clumsy with a redundant topic.
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hey, i visit these forums everyday but i just forgot i had an account xD by the way, i know some titles.
Symphony of Eternity (JRPG)
Eve of the Genesis (JRPG)
Zenonia 1,2,3 (Action-JRPG much like 2d zeldas)
Eternal Legacy (JRPG, its the gameloft version of FF13, i think its quite boring)
these are also endless possibilities with emulators. even if you don't have an xplay, JRPGs are playable on touchscreen
i'd also like to expand the topic a little bit. I'm searching for western rpgs, as close as elder scrolls as possible. On android, there are some open world games like GTA3 or GOF2, but they are not rpgs, also there's no fantasy medieval setting. Earth and legend is kinda sucky and boring. Dungeon hunter 2 is a bad diablo/torchlight clone.
Then, there are emulators. On the psx theres diablo which is awesome and addictive, but its far from being a WRPG. There is also a jap-only version of ultima underworld but its, ya know... jap-only. On the snes there is ultima 6, might and magic 3, and eye of the beholder. The former has a strange system (can't really figure out what to do), the latter two are candidates even if they have parties and the action window is small. Haven't tried them yet. Exact same for Mazes of fate on the GBA. On the n64 there's gauntlet legends which is like diablo if i'm not mistaken. Then there's of course zelda OOT, MM and a bunch of horrible games like quest 64. The zelda titles are of course awesome but they're not what i'm looking for.
Someone has managed to get daggerfall running on andosbox. I tried and it went slow and laggy as in his video. However he pm'd me saying it can be made to run at full speed.
In the end, i'd really like suggestions, on android games and emulators alike. I hope i haven't gone off topic, just wanted to help bluescorpion and to not get clumsy with a redundant topic.
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Thanks for the help man, I'll try them out. And I totally forgot about my emulators, lol. I'm gonna DL FFV and Secret of Mana.
I wish you could get the original Fallout on Android.
I've had a hell of a fun time playing Eve of Genesis. There are so many hidden items to obtain, extra bosses after the "final" boss and a lot of customization with the characters and skills.
Zenonia 3 was also a lot of fun. Very hack and slash but good for a playthrough. This game also has extra content after beating the game the first time. There is a "Hard" mode and a "Hell" mode as well.
SNES RPGs are plentiful. Don't think I need to go into the mainstream ones but if you haven't played Treasure Hunter G, find a translated ROM immediately and play it. Only released in Japan but it's an amazing game.
No problem man fallout is completely mouse driven, right? dunno if that could work for me. I also thought about GemRB for baldur's gate ecc., is it worth it? does it work on the gamepad? I think many of those games need mouse anyway.
as for JRPGs, if you take emulators into account there's a whole lot even of non-mainstream ones. On the SNES try Star Ocean, Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia, on the PSX try Persona, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve (the first one), Chrono Cross and Wild Arms. Of course if you don't know them already.
Huh, onlive has the witcher. Can it be played on the xplay? I can't try as i'm not in uk/us. Maybe there's a way around that
You can always emulate classic PsOne RPGs like FF7 8 9 on FPSE if you're feeling
android RPGs are bad..
On my case I'm still playing Spectral Souls and its a good one for me.. Id also want to try out Generation of Chaos but buying a second pricey RPG game is too much for me right now. But hyperdevbox games speaks for itself, their games are good compared to other games which looks like it was made from RPGmaker.
Ive tried Eternal Legacy since it has nice graphics but I quit playing after a few hours since I find less action and effort of Gameloft here to actually even clone Final Fantasy. I hate that you can only select commands for the main character and just select a command profile for the other party members.. *sigh*
that's my main thoughts on the turn-based RPGs.
If Im going to play a slash-and-destroy-your-way RPG I'd definitely pick Dungeon Hunter over cartoony Zenonia series but both are good games you should get.
But right now, aside from hyperdevbox RPGs, I'd say PSOne RPGS are still best.
rpg games
there are many great rpg games on psx
Try legend of the dragoon ps1
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I recommend Castle of Shadows.. looks pretty good, kinda interesting story and it's fun
But.. I'm not sure if it's the sort of game you are looking for.
For me, there's not a single mobile game that has the character or charm of even the worst console/PC game.
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For me, there's not a single mobile game that has the character or charm of even the worst console/PC game.
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Truthfully, I would have to agree with you on that. I'm not feeling the love for many of the mobile games. Maybe I'm just old, I dunno. Although I do like plenty of newer PC RPGs. **cough Skyrim** But that is a different animal all together. The Zenonia series deserves a good score though, it's a good action RPG. Also, Pocket Legends seems good enough to be a totally free MMO. Neither of those are really like Final Fantasy though. Run all the PSOne Final Fantasy games though PSXPeria and/or FPSE and you'll be in heaven. I'm playing through Final Fantasy Tactics right now. I'm also after the dozens of PSOne RPGs that I never got too, such as Xenogears, Grandia and Chrono Cross. Google something like Top PSX RPGs and you'll find tons of top 10 type lists with lots of RPGs.
Use GameBoid to emulate Golden Sun and its sequel.
Final fantasy tactics, front mission 3,
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For me, there's not a single mobile game that has the character or charm of even the worst console/PC game.
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You won't find a single mobile phone game at sixty dollars either. I'm afraid good story telling, scripting and so on has its price and it will never get cheaper, it's not like graphical power which has catch-up economies and gets cheaper to use with time.
I agree with logs, your comparing 2 diffrent genres, mobile games are cheap to make and cheap to buy, console games have massive budgets and hundreds maybe thousands of people involved in the development, where as mobile games would be lucky to have a team of 10 programmers.
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If you're looking for something that's actually console-quality, go for Spectral Souls and Generation of Chaos.
Kind of unfair listing those since they are actually full-on console ports, but hey... they're in unplayable condition on PSP, so Android's pretty much their only real releases. I'll let you know right now that, if you can leap over that psychological "Holy ****, that's $15 for a goddamn phone game!" barrier, you'll have found the games that don't 'feel' like mobile phone RPGs.
Honestly, I don't mind the mobile phone RPGs either. Symphony of the Eternity, Alphadia and Eve of the Genesis have brought me something I've been wanting for a while... some Final Fantasy-like games from their 2D prime that have a new, fresh feel.
yeah, i forgot about Spectral Souls, but i've never been into strategy RPGs, i thought he didn't want that stuff.
Hey TLR, i sent you a pm on youtube about open world WRPGs, could you give it a look when you have time? It can also add a bit to the discussion here
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You won't find a single mobile phone game at sixty dollars either. I'm afraid good story telling, scripting and so on has its price and it will never get cheaper, it's not like graphical power which has catch-up economies and gets cheaper to use with time.
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You have a fair point there. And that's why I bought a PLAY tbh, because I wanted to play games that was £40 once. But we're just waiting for more ATM, lol Hurry up with PlayStation Suite Sony.
I'm using AnDosBox and playing Betrayal at Krondor
uh, how does it run? how about daggerfall? aaaaand... can you map buttons?
I'll admit... I've been waiting for this game for months even before it's English translation was announced. Having them suddenly announce that it'd be released today had me F5'ing the **** out of their page
I like old-school style RPGs; but playing games I've already played before via emulators is kinda depressing. I do like that KEMCO's mixing in just that right balance of old and new school so that their RPGs don't have those archaic old-school RPG issues, but also don't kill that ever-so-mysterious *charm* that era's RPGs had. Judging by the scores of their previous RPG releases (Symphony of Eternity, Eve of the Genesis, Alphadia and Grinsia) the known name behind games such as Dragon View and Shadowgate still got it!... and so far, this is even better than their last Xperia PLAY RPGs!
I hate to remove Galaxy Hero from my website's featured game spot, but Aeon Avenger's in town!
Google Play Link: AEON AVENGER
Official Website: Aeon Avenger Official Website
I can always count on you to find kickass JRPGs that just appeared on Google Play. Much thanks.
TLRtheory said:
I'll admit... I've been waiting for this game for months even before it's English translation was announced. Having them suddenly announce that it'd be released today had me F5'ing the **** out of their page
I like old-school style RPGs; but playing games I've already played before via emulators is kinda depressing. I do like that KEMCO's mixing in just that right balance of old and new school so that their RPGs don't have those archaic old-school RPG issues, but also don't kill that ever-so-mysterious *charm* that era's RPGs had. Judging by the scores of their previous RPG releases (Symphony of Eternity, Eve of the Genesis, Alphadia and Grinsia) the known name behind games such as Dragon View and Shadowgate still got it!... and so far, this is even better than their last Xperia PLAY RPGs!
I hate to remove Galaxy Hero from my website's featured game spot, but Aeon Avenger's in town!
Google Play Link: AEON AVENGER
Official Website: Aeon Avenger Official Website
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I have been keeping an eye out for this game since I saw the original and that it was being translated in to English. Thank you..... awesome find my friend.
Bought it.......
What makes this one special? I admit Kemco have stepped up their game considerably, even releasing a video opening for such an old relearn as Eve of the Genesis... The tune is catchy too. However, I feel they're a bit too conservative with their games, and I really hope they release a killer app because they really try hard.
No Logseman, this game is not conservative, this game looks OLD, and as I said in another Kemco game's thread, looks like it has been made with RPG maker.
Even 2D RPG games for PSX looked far more advanced than this.
We are in the year 2012, but seems that Kemco doesn't know it.
Yeah it looks a little old, but looks are not everything. I for one am glad the Kemco is making these RPGs and not only that makiung them compatible with our devices....so Kemco..... THANK YOU!!
Miles Wolf said:
No Logseman, this game is not conservative, this game looks OLD, and as I said in another Kemco game's thread, looks like it has been made with RPG maker.
Even 2D RPG games for PSX looked far more advanced than this.
We are in the year 2012, but seems that Kemco doesn't know it.
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I was actually asking about gameplay. 2D graphics ate not an issue for me if they're well bundled with a good story. That's where I don't want them to be conservative.
jgregoryj1 said:
Yeah it looks a little old, but looks are not everything. I for one am glad the Kemco is making these RPGs and not only that makiung them compatible with our devices....so Kemco..... THANK YOU!!
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Ditto.
BTW, this is far above the league of anything made in RPGmaker... I don't even understand what form of dementia would make him bring that up again seeing as the entire notion got trampled over last time he tried that. KEMCO's RPGs are thricefold the depth of anything that could be created in RPGmaker, the resolution is much higher, and the graphical detail is much higher... meaning the only thing they really have in common is that they're 2D.
I'm starting to wonder if it's just a common troll trend to call all non-SQEnix 2D RPGs "RPGmaker lookin crap".
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Ditto.
BTW, this is far above the league of anything made in RPGmaker... I don't even understand what form of dementia would make him bring that up again seeing as the entire notion got trampled over last time he tried that. KEMCO's RPGs are thricefold the depth of anything that could be created in RPGmaker, the resolution is much higher, and the graphical detail is much higher... meaning the only thing they really have in common is that they're 2D.
I'm starting to wonder if it's just a common troll trend to call all non-SQEnix 2D RPGs "RPGmaker lookin crap".
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Myself and most ohers dont care for trolls, but still point being Kemco is awesome for making these games available to the masses, and I do hope they bring there other Japanese rpg games to the masses as well..... people can troll all they want, People will enjoy it or not. For me....I will be enjoying it.... and for those that enjoy it show your support by buying the game, because ultimately its about revenue and if people buy the game and Kemco sees there is profit and interest we will continue to see good things come from it.
This is a game that doesn't need an introduction for most of us gamers from the SNES era. But for those of you who have NEVER heard from Chrono Trigger, you need to check this out.
This game is not only one of the best RPGs of all time, but one of the best games overall. Featuring multiple endings, an amazing and dynamic battle system, and a great and charming cast of characters designed by Akira Toriyama (you may know this guy from Dragon Ball Z). It's a masterpiece from beginning to end.
I know the $10 price can drive most people away. But for 15+ hours of great storytelling and epic battles, it is worth every penny.
Well, enough introductions. Here's the link to the Play store, enjoy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...VfZW5peC5hbmRyb2lkX2dvb2dsZXBsYXkuY2hyb25vIl0.
Come on square enix where's secret of mana! ?!?
Thanks for the heads up...one of the best jrpgs
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Jotamide said:
This is a game that doesn't need an introduction for most of us gamers from the SNES era. But for those of you who have NEVER heard from Chrono Trigger, you need to check this out.
This game is not only one of the best RPGs of all time, but one of the best games overall. Featuring multiple endings, an amazing and dynamic battle system, and a great and charming cast of characters designed by Akira Toriyama (you may know this guy from Dragon Ball Z). It's a masterpiece from beginning to end.
I know the $10 price can drive most people away. But for 15+ hours of great storytelling and epic battles, it is worth every penny.
Well, enough introductions. Here's the link to the Play store, enjoy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...VfZW5peC5hbmRyb2lkX2dvb2dsZXBsYXkuY2hyb25vIl0.
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Yey at long last
The game was ported from the Nintendo DS version, which was ported from SNES (they just improved graphics and music). Isn't it much better to play it with an emulator?
Morrissex said:
The game was ported from the Nintendo DS version, which was ported from SNES (they just improved graphics and music). Isn't it much better to play it with an emulator?
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The DS port had extra dungeons and an extra ending as well. It wasn't a straight port.
Morrissex said:
The game was ported from the Nintendo DS version, which was ported from SNES (they just improved graphics and music). Isn't it much better to play it with an emulator?
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First of all you missed two steps
1995 = SNES
1999 = playstation 1
2009 = Nintendo DS
2011 = Wii Console and iOS devices
2012 = Android
Second, no. There is no stable or dependable Nintendo DS emulator and while it's essentially the same game, when you've been playing it for nearly 20 years (like we real fans do), you kinda want the dimensional vortex and lost sanctum content to play with as well. There is only so much you can do to make the game experience unique and I long ago got tired of naming characters their actual real names (Nadia, Janus, R66-Y, Glenn, etc)
There's only so many times you can see the like dozen endings yknow
I bought mine yesterday. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is that I don't get the 2x game speed option that I had on emulators. Level grinding takes forever now
Otherwise, well worth it. Best RPG ever, hands down. By the way, OP, you forgot to mention that while the characters were done by the Dragon Ball Z people, the game itself was designed by the Final Fantasy people. Dream Team ftw.
I did not remember the game being so ugly.
Are you sure they haven't made it worse than the console edition?
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I did not remember the game being so ugly.
Are you sure they haven't made it worse than the console edition?
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It does appear to have been filtered, I wish SE added the option to switch it on and off. And yes I forgot: the game was the love-child of the Final Fantasy team AND the creator of the Dragon Quest series. Yet still this is not a typical turn-based RPG...you gotta see it for yourself.
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Quick question for you guys. I actually want to buy the game to support square and hopefully get them to release more of their catalog for android, but I'd really like to be able to play the game when not connected to the internet. I've seen apk+data downloads - my question is, if I buy the game from the market, and just put the data in the folder the downloads suggest, can I then play it anywhere? Or will it not work that way? If not, I'll just buy it and play other games when I'm off the network (annoying) but if there's a way to both support the dev and be able to play it the way I want, that would be perfect.
one of the best games!
Love this game
I like secret of mana better.
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I downloaded Final Fantasy 3/6 because it is suppose to rival this game but doubt it would.
In today's world of CoD and Halo with each game looking like a different regurgitation of the last, this game still stands proud today. Amazing character development, I remember at least 5 different endings. How many games change the plot from the choices you make in game today? Me and my two brothers would play this together (one would play the other two would watch) on the first snes emulator that came out. We would Name two of the characters after the two older brothers and the third character (frog) we were suppose to name after my little brother but we just nicknamed him after my little bro instead ''Farty" The dialog turned out to be amazing because of it.
What happened to good gaming? What happened to the sniper battles of MGS, or fighting a boss who made you unplug your controller (literally). The environment of FFX. Gaming today sucks! And don't say it has gone to platform, it's gotten better there but it sucks there too! I have an amazing PC rig but no games to enjoy it for.
We have all the money and power but no creativity to put to it.
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Never played it, but Chrono Cross is really good. I just want them to start releasing Kingdom Heart games.
I used to play this game on DS, it's nice to be able to play it again on android, thanx :good: