Extreme Overheating while (wireless) charging -- 3 batteries - Thunderbolt General

Hello,
I recently purchased a wireless charging station/pad, the Verizon-branded LG WCP-700. I have 3 different batteries for my Thunderbolt (rooted, stock). 2 of them are the stock/original 1400mA batteries from HTC. One came with the phone, the other was purchased additionally from Verizon. The third is the red MyTouch 1650mA battery, purchased from Verizon.
ALL THREE batteries get warm/hot when charging with a corded charger. Still, it charges fine.
When I use my new wireless WCP-700 charging pad, the phone gets VERY HOT (52+ cel., 120-130 far.). Sometimes, it gets so hot that the charging stops. But sometimes, it charges throughout the night and fully charges the battery, which is fine. This happens with ALL THREE batteries.
What is wrong and what can be done?
Not interested in installing a new kernel, etc.
Not running many background apps.

daniel178 said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a wireless charging station/pad, the Verizon-branded LG WCP-700. I have 3 different batteries for my Thunderbolt (rooted, stock). 2 of them are the stock/original 1400mA batteries from HTC. One came with the phone, the other was purchased additionally from Verizon. The third is the red MyTouch 1650mA battery, purchased from Verizon.
ALL THREE batteries get warm/hot when charging with a corded charger. Still, it charges fine.
When I use my new wireless WCP-700 charging pad, the phone gets VERY HOT (52+ cel., 120-130 far.). Sometimes, it gets so hot that the charging stops. But sometimes, it charges throughout the night and fully charges the battery, which is fine. This happens with ALL THREE batteries.
What is wrong and what can be done?
Not interested in installing a new kernel, etc.
Not running many background apps.
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Are you tethering while charging?
I've heard, but don't know for certain, that tethering while charging can cause overheating and damage.
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Yes. But wired charging works fine (even when tethering).
(btw, is there a better app to use than Wireless Tether? I like it, but my computer keeps losing connection. I have to stop and restart the app).

daniel178 said:
Yes. But wired charging works fine (even when tethering).
(btw, is there a better app to use than Wireless Tether? I like it, but my computer keeps losing connection. I have to stop and restart the app).
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If its called "wifi tether for root users" in the marketplace, scroll down to the "more by developer" section and try the other one. It's titled the same thing, but has a green wifi icon.
See if that one works any better for you.
Some phones use one better than the other.
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My phone used to get really hot when I tethered while I was charging. It was so hot one day that it shut off and wouldn't come back on until it cooled down. That is the only time that has ever happened.
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disconnecktie-
so have you found a fix for this? or is it just the nature of things?
RBarnett09-
I have tried two apps:
WiFi Tether for Root Users:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tLmdvb2dsZWNvZGUuYW5kcm9pZC53aWZpLnRldGhlciJd
Wireless Tether for Root Users:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=android.tether&feature=related_apps
Both current versions. (although, oddly, it seems that "Wifi" uses "Wireless"'s service).
Both give me the same overheating results.
Any other options?

In my experience it doesn't matter what tether I use it gets hit. That is just the nature of what is going on. The 4g radio is pulling a lot of data and WiFi is having to broadcast all that. Not to mention the CPU has to process all of that. Sounds like a heat generator to me. Oh and don't forget that you're charging the phone at the same time which also generates heat.
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daniel178 said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a wireless charging station/pad, the Verizon-branded LG WCP-700. I have 3 different batteries for my Thunderbolt (rooted, stock). 2 of them are the stock/original 1400mA batteries from HTC. One came with the phone, the other was purchased additionally from Verizon. The third is the red MyTouch 1650mA battery, purchased from Verizon.
ALL THREE batteries get warm/hot when charging with a corded charger. Still, it charges fine.
When I use my new wireless WCP-700 charging pad, the phone gets VERY HOT (52+ cel., 120-130 far.). Sometimes, it gets so hot that the charging stops. But sometimes, it charges throughout the night and fully charges the battery, which is fine. This happens with ALL THREE batteries.
What is wrong and what can be done?
Not interested in installing a new kernel, etc.
Not running many background apps.
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Can u upload a link to the item u purchased I would like to see it
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jonah1234-
This is what I bought:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DMBSVA/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
It is the same thing as what is being sold in Verizon stores:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ypeId=12659&accessoryId=47605&initialPhoneId=

Really unsure what to tell you man.
I don't think your battery should be getting that hot.
Have you tried charging with your plug in charger and seeing if it still has the same problem?
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Please see posts #1 and #3.

daniel178 said:
Please see posts #1 and #3.
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Bahahaha!!
Yeah, Idk how I missed out there.
My bad.
I hope you get it figured out soon.
I suppose it may be a problem within the phone itself.
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Battery charge issues

Hello all. I had an issue w/ my proximity sensor so I got an AE. It was defective, so I got ANOTHER AE.
Since I owned my EVO I always get extended batteries. I bought a 2750mah and it worked great. Then it started charging slowly.
I got giftcards to Best buy for my birthday so I got a new on there. (Sedio 3400 I believe)
Now when I try to charge my phone, it will literally take 2 hrs or so to get 15-20% charged.
I use my handset heavily, but w/ my EVO it was like 2hrs = a full charge and all day heavy use got me to a minimum of 25%.
I know LTE is to blame for a little battery drain, but any ideas? Full charge to 30% in like 5 hrs sometimes. Should I order another AE?
I'm on stlck w/ the most current software btw. Thanks.
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Are you rooted if so what ROM are you running/radio/kernel
system6 said:
Hello all. I had an issue w/ my proximity sensor so I got an AE. It was defective, so I got ANOTHER AE.
Since I owned my EVO I always get extended batteries. I bought a 2750mah and it worked great. Then it started charging slowly.
I got giftcards to Best buy for my birthday so I got a new on there. (Sedio 3400 I believe)
Now when I try to charge my phone, it will literally take 2 hrs or so to get 15-20% charged.
I use my handset heavily, but w/ my EVO it was like 2hrs = a full charge and all day heavy use got me to a minimum of 25%.
I know LTE is to blame for a little battery drain, but any ideas? Full charge to 30% in like 5 hrs sometimes. Should I order another AE?
I'm on stlck w/ the most current software btw. Thanks.
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Are you using an original stock charger? Are u charging through PC?
Battery could be defective..
I was thinking if he was rooted he needed to do battery calibration since he swtiched from stock to extended battery. Clear the stats and start over fresh. Maybe I am wrong, we'll see when we answers when or if he is rooted.
Jrocker23 said:
Are you using an original stock charger? Are u charging through PC?
Battery could be defective..
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I am stock.
I switch between the HTC charger that came with it and several other after market cables/usb wall adapters.
I try to use plug in outlets as I know the "trickle" method takes forever.
I'm on my 2nd extended battery.
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I had alot of issues with charging my Incredible to the point where my phone took 5 hours to charge and 1 hour to drain. No simple answer here but if you root your phone many options exist to fix this battery issue. Recal the battery would be the first option. If you are able Root try that and come back and report.
system6 said:
I am stock.
I switch between the HTC charger that came with it and several other after market cables/usb wall adapters.
I try to use plug in outlets as I know the "trickle" method takes forever.
I'm on my 2nd extended battery.
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Battery drain while charging

I'm currently running Sean's latest leak/update and have noticed significant battery drain despite being plugged into the charger. I never really paid enough attention while on gb roms, so I'm not sure if this is an ics thing or not. My buddy at work has had similar issues and is completely bone stock, so I'm thinking it's just a skyrocket issue.
Anybody else notice this? It happens no matter what I'm doing on the phone and is obviously more noticeable when playing games. It seems to me that the charger should at least compensate for the usage!
It had me so baffled, I've re-flashed multiple times now with the same results.
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Your using the OEM charger? whats the max amp written on it?
kishke said:
Your using the OEM charger? whats the max amp written on it?
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Yeah... it's 5v/1a. Same with my buddy. I thought that might be the problem, and I had switched it with an old one, but don't think so. I've used the powerskin in the past, and it's also 5v/1a... still drains with it.
I'm totally puzzled! I've changed chargers, gone with/without the powerskin, re-flashed roms, calibrated the battery and who knows what else. Only thing I hadn't done was replace the battery, but now that my buddy is having issues on stock, I don't know if that's the problem or not....
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Its probably the battery while charging check if in about phone it says its conncted to ac.
Also are you rooted?
Could also be the cable. I have had the exact issue, replaced the cable and now its fine. Its funny cause the galaxy s2 is far more picky when it comes to chargers/cables. For instance. I can plug it in and the phone won't do a think, yet when I plug it in the skyrocket it will accept the connection.
kishke said:
Its probably the battery while charging check if in about phone it says its conncted to ac.
Also are you rooted?
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I'm thinking it's the battery... it shows it's charging. I've tried spare chargers and cable combos with the same outcome. It's just odd that my friend's is doing the same thing!
I'm rooted/rom'd & he's bone stock.
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g2tegg said:
Could also be the cable. I have had the exact issue, replaced the cable and now its fine. Its funny cause the galaxy s2 is far more picky when it comes to chargers/cables. For instance. I can plug it in and the phone won't do a think, yet when I plug it in the skyrocket it will accept the connection.
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I've tried diff cable/charger combos... no luck. I had cable issues with my epic (sprint) and knew Samsung had issues with them in the past, so that was one of the first things that came to mind... no dice though!
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Test your receptacle with a digital multi meter . The stock charger works great. Enough so
That i spliced 3 high quality usb cable and have over a ten foot cable which charges just fine.
So its possible. U have a bad charger. Crap cables. Or overdrawn circuit whith your receptacles. No enough to trip but enough your charger cant pull 1 amp
traumaj said:
I'm currently running Sean's latest leak/update and have noticed significant battery drain despite being plugged into the charger. I never really paid enough attention while on gb roms, so I'm not sure if this is an ics thing or not. My buddy at work has had similar issues and is completely bone stock, so I'm thinking it's just a skyrocket issue.
Anybody else notice this? It happens no matter what I'm doing on the phone and is obviously more noticeable when playing games. It seems to me that the charger should at least compensate for the usage!
It had me so baffled, I've re-flashed multiple times now with the same results.
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I noticed the same issue. Dont worry, offical ics will be out very soon!
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I did a 1.5 hour Skype video while on charge and my battery never charged it held at the same percentage. Anything else I do charging outweighs my use. Gotta be the charger or the phone itself. Even if you have no battery in it should still boot off the charger and run correct?
traumaj said:
I'm thinking it's the battery... it shows it's charging. I've tried spare chargers and cable combos with the same outcome. It's just odd that my friend's is doing the same thing!
I'm rooted/rom'd & he's bone stock.
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Use any type of root explorer, while charging got to sys/class/power supply/battery
and open batt_current_xxx or something like this, I'll check it later if you get into troubles, breaking my head now with tasker at the moment. It should show a value around 8500, at least that's what it shows for me.
I'm having the same issue on Sean's latest update, my battery current adc file says 2934... I posted this in the sky ics thread
"I've been having some battery issues since coming to this ROM on update six. I'm on nine now and all is well, battery life included once I get it charged up. I'm using OEM Samsung everything, charging block, two different cables, my original battery and a 2100Mah extended for the Gnex. All Samsung, no change between them. This thing just REFUSES to charge if I'm using it while plugged in, and if I leave it alone and let it charge, it takes absolutely forever to charge either battery. The skyrocket battery won't gain one percent charge if I'm using it while plugged in, and the Gnex battery actually discharges slowly!  Any ideas? I bought this phone from a member on here and it came with superlite 5 and I don't recall it having this problem."
If the file reading is that low there must be an issue with the amp, if you tried a different charger and cables and it happened since changing roms I'd say its a pure software issue. Maybe you should try flashing a different kernel before trying to change your rom, the problem may be laying there.
I had the same issue but mine was related to the usb cable. With a new micro usb cable my phone charges without issue.
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Wireless chargers?

Was just wondering what chargers are you guys using? Im gonna be getting my nexus 4 right after christmas. (Stupid backorder)
I'm using the LG one and it works great. The beep really isn't nearly as loud as everyone exaggerated.... but if it bothers you I hear removing it is really easy and there's instructions in one of the threads on how to do it.
LG one with the beeper taken out.
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Is there a list of what chargers work with reviews/prices?
Ngo93 said:
I'm using the LG one and it works great. The beep really isn't nearly as loud as everyone exaggerated.... but if it bothers you I hear removing it is really easy and there's instructions in one of the threads on how to do it.
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Someone in another thread mentioned that it charges to 100%, then it disconnects until the battery hits 90% or so before it starts charging again. They mentioned they leave it on the charger overnight, and in the morning it'll say it's been on battery for 3 hours and at a 90% charge.
Does it do this to you? Or do you find it charged up to 100%?
krhainos said:
Someone in another thread mentioned that it charges to 100%, then it disconnects until the battery hits 90% or so before it starts charging again. They mentioned they leave it on the charger overnight, and in the morning it'll say it's been on battery for 3 hours and at a 90% charge.
Does it do this to you? Or do you find it charged up to 100%?
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The other day I did wake up to my phone at 96% and it said it had been off for 5 hours. But today I woke up to it at 100%. I wouldn't doubt that it stops charging at 100% and then recharges back up at 96%, though I don't believe it drops as low as 90%. I've read many things in the past about people saying phones do stop charging at 96% because it's healthier for battery life and that the last 4% are cosmetic. Don't hold me to that though =P
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My N4 is on backorder for about 4 weeks. I hope google announces that wireless charging orb by then.
I bought both the LG and the Energizer single-position. Haven't had the problems that other people have mentioned with the LG unit beeping more than once (when I first put the phone down and it starts charging), even when left on overnight and after the battery is full.
The Energizer is bigger all around than the LG and is much more sensitive about getting the phone in the right spot - and since it doesn't beep, you have to just watch for the blue LED (which is bright as heck in the dark; I put a piece of tint over it).
Ended up taking the Energizer to work, and I've got an LG next to the bed and another in my home office. As far as actually charging, both models work fine and I've not done any testing on speed, etc.
Is this what you guys are using?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/OEM-VERIZON-...ccessories&hash=item2578538a87#ht_4148wt_1247
Yes, the LG WCP-700. Looks like the prices have gone up to $50 from the $35 I paid just a week ago.
http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Portable-Office-Charging/dp/B005DMBSVA
we cant get anything here in australia... everything is US based i search atleast once a week for a wireless charger lol
joshndroid said:
we cant get anything here in australia... everything is US based i search atleast once a week for a wireless charger lol
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i bought the LG WCP-700 from ebay.com.au posted from the US. Should arrive this week. I'll post back here if i have to mod it to work with Aussie power supply.
I'm using a Energizer single charger. Love that it doesn't make a single sound. Quiet as a mouse.
So far it's charging well. :thumbup:
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billbradford said:
I bought both the LG and the Energizer single-position. Haven't had the problems that other people have mentioned with the LG unit beeping more than once (when I first put the phone down and it starts charging), even when left on overnight and after the battery is full.
The Energizer is bigger all around than the LG and is much more sensitive about getting the phone in the right spot - and since it doesn't beep, you have to just watch for the blue LED (which is bright as heck in the dark; I put a piece of tint over it).
Ended up taking the Energizer to work, and I've got an LG next to the bed and another in my home office. As far as actually charging, both models work fine and I've not done any testing on speed, etc.
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Interesting. I have the Energizer one, and I don't think it's picky at all in regards to placement
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Panasonic tm101 In white when it gets here...
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bass++ said:
Panasonic tm101 In white when it gets here...
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where did you order that from?

Is it possible to break the battery of my HOXL if I used a nexus 7 charger once?

Hello guys I'm I little worried. Here's the thing, I tried for some days figuring out how to root,unlock bootloader, super CID, etc.. it was with good battery life, but after I did all that, I installed the viperxl (i used it with my older HOXL) and everything ran good. What I have noticed is that my battery drain is so, I mean soooo bad..!
I tried a full wipe but I think it's still the same. My phone its brand new so there is no problem with older owners. I haven't changed the radio (maybe could be that?) I have lost more battery on standby than when using the phone and that didn't happened with my older HOXL
So could be that I messed my battery when I charged the phone with the nexus 7 charger??
Or what could be the problem?? Any suggestions will be good, thanks....
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Is the N7 charger more amps than the One X charger? Some folks on here have said that the device will only pull the amps it needs, others have contradicted this. I don't know enough about the topic to comment either way. I use a Motorola charger on my One X every day, since it has a longer cord than the HTC charger and it happens to work better where I have it located on my desk.
I can honestly say I've used my nexus 7 charger a few times with no problems
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Its a mental thing. I use my nexus 7 charger at home and my htc one at work and a high output Motorola in the car. My battery life has always been superb. Running latest viper with beastmode evita...
From what I know about charger outputs, it doesnt matter, it depends on the device. It can only pull in its max regardless of the charger. Higher the output in a charger should be better so your phone can pull in its max
There's also other factor that contributes to horrible battery life. Rogue apps, horrible networks that switches back and forth between lte and hspa+ and so on...
The last thing could just be a bad battery. Not common but I'm pretty sure it happens
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redpoint73 said:
Is the N7 charger more amps than the One X charger? Some folks on here have said that the device will only pull the amps it needs, others have contradicted this. I don't know enough about the topic to comment either way. I use a Motorola charger on my One X every day, since it has a longer cord than the HTC charger and it happens to work better where I have it located on my desk.
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yep the specifications of amps is the current that the charger can handle, as long as the charger of the n7 can handle the same or more current than the one xl charger it should be ok, many chargers are 1A.
For the OP , i think you should definitively try with another rom, maybe stock to make sure that the problem is not your battery?
redpoint73 said:
Is the N7 charger more amps than the One X charger? Some folks on here have said that the device will only pull the amps it needs, others have contradicted this. I don't know enough about the topic to comment either way. I use a Motorola charger on my One X every day, since it has a longer cord than the HTC charger and it happens to work better where I have it located on my desk.
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On the one x charger says output: 1A, and in the N7 charger says output: 2A, but I only charged it like 2-3 times I guess, so I don't know why I have that poor battery life,.Maybe hardware problem? Or should I change my radio??
Also how can I know if its a hardware problem??
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are you still running viperXL? maybe there are some settings that are pulling your battery life... look in viperHub and viperTweaks
renehd2 said:
On the one x charger says output: 1A, and in the N7 charger says output: 2A, but I only charged it like 2-3 times I guess, so I don't know why I have that poor battery life,.Maybe hardware problem? Or should I change my radio??
Also how can I know if its a hardware problem??
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Your device isn't going to take in 2A. It's only going to take in what it can. I'm not saying that by using a different charger is not going to harm your device, it's just highly unlikely it will. They only way is to flash back to stock and see if that makes a different.
Also, you mention you had another 1x, is your current one a refurb or replacement? That may have something to do with it as well
The Rom is awesome but there are times when it doesn't work for very small numbers of devices...you're just prob unlucky.
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HYE_TECH said:
Your device isn't going to take in 2A. It's only going to take in what it can. I'm not saying that by using a different charger is not going to harm your device, it's just highly unlikely it will. They only way is to flash back to stock and see if that makes a different.
Also, you mention you had another 1x, is your current one a refurb or replacement? That may have something to do with it as well
The Rom is awesome but there are times when it doesn't work for very small numbers of devices...you're just prob unlucky.
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It's not a replacement, I soldy older one to a friend and bought this new one, with WiFi I have noticed that standby and normal usage I have a good battery life, the problem is when I'm on 3g/H, maybe could the radio? Because when I'm on data it drains really really fast, like 3-6% per hour on standby...
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renehd2 said:
It's not a replacement, I soldy older one to a friend and bought this new one, with WiFi I have noticed that standby and normal usage I have a good battery life, the problem is when I'm on 3g/H, maybe could the radio? Because when I'm on data it drains really really fast, like 3-6% per hour on standby...
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It might be your radio switching back and forth that's draining your battery.
I have 2 jobs, my first one has lte coverage but not so great in the building so it's always switching from LTE to 4g which I notice drains my battery. My 2nd job at night has great coverage in and out the warehouse. I get full bars of LTE there and my battery would drain very slowly.
In the beginning, I was worried as well because my battery drain seem like a lot so I thought something was wrong but then I checked the battery at my second job and it was great so I figured it was just the network and location.
Overall, especially compared to all the androids I ever used, the one x battery is pretty damn impressive especially for an LTE device.
I came from Verizon using the droid razr and galaxy nexus which couldn't make it past 4 hours on lte with light usage
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HYE_TECH said:
It might be your radio switching back and forth that's draining your battery.
I have 2 jobs, my first one has lte coverage but not so great in the building so it's always switching from LTE to 4g which I notice drains my battery. My 2nd job at night has great coverage in and out the warehouse. I get full bars of LTE there and my battery would drain very slowly.
In the beginning, I was worried as well because my battery drain seem like a lot so I thought something was wrong but then I checked the battery at my second job and it was great so I figured it was just the network and location.
Overall, especially compared to all the androids I ever used, the one x battery is pretty damn impressive especially for an LTE device.
I came from Verizon using the droid razr and galaxy nexus which couldn't make it past 4 hours on lte with light usage
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In from Mexico, so I don't have LTE here, but what I have noticed is that its always on H, with full bars, that's what worry me, yesterday I was on WiFi since I was in my house and the battery was very good, so probably is the radio,I will check with data today to be sure of Its the radio or the battery
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I've experienced crapp battery life after using my HP Touchpad charger.
Also, my 2nd HOX had horrible battery life out of the box. After fully draining > charging twice my screen on time went from 2.5 hours to 4+ hours with the exact same settings and usage.
Edit: while we're talking batteries... I heard a tech from.the ATT Device Service Center tell two people not to charge their phones overnight because leaving it on the charger when it's full is bad for the battery. Those guys are so smart! They must get their info from Yahoo Answers.
roscoejackson said:
I've experienced crapp battery life after using my HP Touchpad charger.
Also, my 2nd HOX had horrible battery life out of the box. After fully draining > charging twice my screen on time went from 2.5 hours to 4+ hours with the exact same settings and usage.
Edit: while we're talking batteries... I heard a tech from.the ATT Device Service Center tell two people not to charge their phones overnight because leaving it on the charger when it's full is bad for the battery. Those guys are so smart! They must get their info from Yahoo Answers.
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Maybe I have to do that full discharge and charge cycle, today I unplugged it at 9:25am and it's 12:40am and I still have 28% with 3hrs onscreen time. I'm happy hope that keeps going that way
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renehd2 said:
Maybe I have to do that full discharge and charge cycle
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The battery meter calibration gets wiped whenever you flash a custom ROM. You should do at least 2-3 power cycles before making any judgements on battery. Charge to full, but only drain to 10-20%. Draining to shutoff doesn't make it any more accurate, but has the added risk that once in a while the safety circuit will not engage properly, and you will be stuck with a battery that will not accept a charge.
Also, on any ROM but stock AT&T, you can toggle LTE off. Since you don't have LTE in your area, toggle it off (if you haven't already) in Settings>Mobile network settings>network mode.
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HYE_TECH said:
Your device isn't going to take in 2A. It's only going to take in what it can. I'm not saying that by using a different charger is not going to harm your device, it's just highly unlikely it will. They only way is to flash back to stock and see if that makes a different.
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That's the explanation I've read previously.
But if so, why did HTC used a different charger plug for the HTC Flyer tablet than all their phones? The charge port is an interesting one, in that its bigger than a MicroUSB port, but will still accept a MicroUSB charge or sync cable (the plug only takes up the bottom "half" of the port when plugged in). The pins needed for data sync are the same, and in fact you can actually plug any MicroUSB sync cable or charger into the Flyer. But you can't plug the Flyer's charger (1.62 Amp) to any HTC phone, only the Flyer (and I assume the Jetstream tablet).
Many have said that this is so people would not plug the Flyer charger to a phone, and damage the phone from the higher amps.
Seems like the difference in amps is the only reason HTC used a different charge port for the Flyer.
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The battery meter calibration gets wiped whenever you flash a custom ROM. You should do at least 2-3 power cycles before making any judgements on battery. Charge to full, but only drain to 10-20%. Draining to shutoff doesn't make it any more accurate, but has the added risk that once in a while the safety circuit will not engage properly, and you will be stuck with a battery that will not accept a charge.
Also, on any ROM but stock AT&T, you can toggle LTE off. Since you don't have LTE in your area, toggle it off (if you haven't already) in Settings>Mobile network settings>network mode.
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In my experience, an uncalibrated battery can go from 8% battery to 0% in a matter of minutes. The only way that I've corrected this is with a full discharge.
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In my experience, an uncalibrated battery can go from 8% battery to 0% in a matter of minutes. The only way that I've corrected this is with a full discharge.
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You're just calibrating the meter, not the battery. The notion of calibrating the battery is left over from 80s technology NiCad batteries.
Under the best of circumstances, the battery meter is nowhere near accurate enough to expect readings less than 8% to be accurate. If you've experienced some more "accurate" reading at this granularity, it may just be placebo or pure chance. Even if true, I'd rather have a bit of inaccuracy in the low end, rather than play with the probability of a battery that won't take a charge.
In any case, you shouldn't be running your battery down that low. We all do it once in a while, but it shouldn't be habit.
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In my experience, an uncalibrated battery can go from 8% battery to 0% in a matter of minutes. The only way that I've corrected this is with a full discharge.
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You would be wrong, the battery meter is recalibrated on each boot.
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You would be wrong, the battery meter is recalibrated on each boot.
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The battery usage data is wiped with each boot or charge (same as wiping battery stats). But I don't think that is the same as the calibration data.
renehd2 said:
Hello guys I'm I little worried. Here's the thing, I tried for some days figuring out how to root,unlock bootloader, super CID, etc.. it was with good battery life, but after I did all that, I installed the viperxl (i used it with my older HOXL) and everything ran good. What I have noticed is that my battery drain is so, I mean soooo bad..!
I tried a full wipe but I think it's still the same. My phone its brand new so there is no problem with older owners. I haven't changed the radio (maybe could be that?) I have lost more battery on standby than when using the phone and that didn't happened with my older HOXL
So could be that I messed my battery when I charged the phone with the nexus 7 charger??
Or what could be the problem?? Any suggestions will be good, thanks....
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I use my N7 charger all the time with no ill effects.
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[Q] Honestly, is the Skyrocket a "good" phone?

So here is the deal... I have been a Verizon customer for years, and I am just sick and tired of them jerking me around and upping their rates, taking away unlimited data, taking away early upgrades, etc. So I am thinking of jumping ship and going to Net10. I am currently using the HTC Rezound which seems to be roughly roughly equivalent to the Skyrocket (Yes, I know I will not get true 4G/LTE on Net10, only HSPA+). I can get a new, sealed in the box Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (SGH-i727) for about $210 on eBay.
So where I am going with this, knowing Samsung has had quality models and, well, lets just say questionable models, how is the Skyrocket? Is it solid and relatively problem free? How is battery life, is it easy to unlock, root, ROM, return to stock, etc? Has anyone used this on Net10/StraightTalk?
So basically I am just looking for people's opinion of the phone in general, from a heavy phone users perspective... My other alternative's at this time are a new unlocked HTC Vivid which I can get new for just under $200, or just suck it up and grab a Nexus 4 from Google, although the $350+tax and shipping for the 16GB model would hurt, a lot, right now.
Thoughts?
I, along with most other power users here in the skyrocket forum will tell you that this is a great device. Rooting, rom-ing, and general modifications are a breeze as long as you read the stickies and have an ounce of common sense. Battery life is subjective to individual use, but I generally get around 12-15 hours with 3-5 hours screen on time. This can be extended significantly with a nexus extended battery and a minor modification (see accessories section for details). Hardware wise it it solid. The only common issue we've really seen is the power button failing for some users, I've had mine since it was released though with no issue so far. We have official support for CM, Slim Bean, PACMAN, and Avatar ROM (maybe more but I can't remember off hand), and ports or unofficial builds of just about everything else you'd want. Also, 4.3 is being worked on hard by our fine devs, and it seems that external speaker audio is the only thing preventing a beta release for most roms at the moment.
The community is, for the most part, knowledgeable and willing to assist with any problems you have as long as you attempted to do your homework first.
Any other questions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll extend a tentative welcome to the Skyrocket family.
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bps119 said:
I, along with most other power users here in the skyrocket forum will tell you that this is a great device. Rooting, rom-ing, and general modifications are a breeze as long as you read the stickies and have an ounce of common sense. Battery life is subjective to individual use, but I generally get around 12-15 hours with 3-5 hours screen on time. This can be extended significantly with a nexus extended battery and a minor modification (see accessories section for details). Hardware wise it it solid. The only common issue we've really seen is the power button failing for some users, I've had mine since it was released though with no issue so far. We have official support for CM, Slim Bean, PACMAN, and Avatar ROM (maybe more but I can't remember off hand), and ports or unofficial builds of just about everything else you'd want. Also, 4.3 is being worked on hard by our fine devs, and it seems that external speaker audio is the only thing preventing a beta release for most roms at the moment.
The community is, for the most part, knowledgeable and willing to assist with any problems you have as long as you attempted to do your homework first.
Any other questions, let me know. Otherwise, I'll extend a tentative welcome to the Skyrocket family.
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Thanks for the info!!! I really appreciate it!!!
One more quick question, does the Skyrocket use a standard sized SIM, or one of the newer micro-SIMs?
acejavelin said:
Thanks for the info!!! I really appreciate it!!!
One more quick question, does the Skyrocket use a standard sized SIM, or one of the newer micro-SIMs?
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Standard.
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One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
unni_kmr said:
One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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mtdew said:
User error or bad unit I have zero issues with my GPS or car charging. Also what amperage is your car charger capable of outputting.
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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I am not 100% sure in terms of the amperage. But I tried with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. I was sitting in the passenger seat, phone was in my lap (not mounted in windshield) and Google Maps was running in navigation mode. For the first 15 minutes or so, I saw that the phone was charging. The charge level increased by 1% or 2%. After I think 20 minutes, it stopped charging. CPU-Z app was showing battery status as
health: over heated or heated (don't remember clearly the text)
power source: connected
status: not charging or discharing
Phone's back was very hot. I unplugged the USB cable and connected it back, and it started charging again! I waited for it to cool down, removed the phone case, repeated this and got the same result.
This is why I believe the phone is doing something to protect it from over heating. I am not sure though.
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Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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Amperage is important son too little it will discharge, I think it will limit if too much. Nav can cause some heat for some of these guys but I've never heard of it getting that high my guess is something was wrong.
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Sorry for off topic. Can you please recommend a charger, preferable the one you are using?
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Sorry for off topic. Can you please recommend a charger, preferable the one you are using?
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I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
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I have gotten my last few chargers at Sam's Club, they are about $10, and are rated at [email protected]
In an older phone I had a similar issue where my phone would overheat and not charge properly, once I got a new charger I cut the end off the old one and read the voltage with a meter, it was putting out almost 7.1v (should be 4.75-5.25vDC for USB 1.0-2.0 standard, and 5.25-5.75vDC for USB 3.0), pretty sure that is what caused it... cheap components equals cheap quality and flaws. Current rating should be irrelevant, as long as it meets the devices minimum requirements (most modern phones are [email protected]), even if a charger is rated at 2, 3, or even 5 amps, the device should not draw more than it can handle. Current is drawn, not pushed, a device will draw the needed current at the expected voltage, you can't really "over-current" a device by using a power source that is rated at the proper voltage but a higher current. Similar instance can occur by using a charger that has too low of a current rating, the device will try to draw more current than the adapter is rated at and the adapter will eventually fail or fall out of specifications.
Some other good chargers are by Anker, PowerGen, or RAVPower, and of course a Samsung branded adapter will work well, most all of these can be purchased for $8-$15 on Amazon. If the adapter is not rated with a current rating, then skip it, it is probably only 600ma-750ma and will be more headache than it's worth in the long run.
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Good to see that we're getting a new user who actually does their homework. :thumbup:
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acejavelin said:
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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Just like to say great. I love my skyrocket. Over clocked at 1.78ghz and 320mhz gpu . great performance. Also with nexus extended battery for $6.50 at sprint. I have no reason to buy another phone. Welcome to the skyrocket community.
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I have an HTC Sensation and today I rooted my friend's Skyrocket. I must say, EVERYTHING about the Skyrocket amazed me in terms of performance, ease of use, and quality even though it's very similar in hardware specs to my own phone (both are MSM8x60). Rooting the phone only took about 3 minutes (installed TWRP; there was no locked-bootloader crap to deal with) and the colors on the touchscreen are wonderful, not to mention the sensitivity of the screen is great as well. The Skyrocket has official CM10.1 going for it so I installed that and it's fantastic; everything runs perfectly. Even while using the kernel included in CM10.1 the device was very fast but when I overclocked it, the performance blew me away, not to mention the phone didn't heat up at all (even while gaming!); compared to that, my HTC hits 70°C while gaming on CM10.1 at stock CPU/GPU frequencies. Rooting my friend's Skyrocket today has thoroughly convinced me to never buy an HTC again Also, the Skyrocket has great dev support seeing as how CM10.1 is official for it.
TL;DR: The Skyrocket is way better than your HTC and, in terms of development, it's not gonna die any time soon.
unni_kmr said:
One issue bothers me a lot. I cannot use the phone for navigation for more than 2 hours even with car charger connected. In about 2 hours, it drains out fully. My latest theory is that after about 30 mins of charging, the battery starts heating up, and so it stops charging.
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The Skyrocket (and several other Samsung phones) need special "type 2" chargers. Apple charges are type 6, so if it says compatible with Apple, don't use it as it may not work. If the two center pins on the USB port doesn't have a 50 ohm resistor across them (or not shorted) , the Skyrocket will only draw 350 mA. Samsung and older Curve BlackBerry chargers have the resistor. At 350 mA, the phone draws more than the charger is providing, and the charger circuitry heats up trying to keep up with demand.
Jrockttu has a great thread under General called "Fix your Skyrockets battery life"
I've MOD'd all of my chargers, now my phone is happy with the screen on all day while driving and it stays charged, or charges slowly...
Tim
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I recently got rid of my Skyrocket. It was a good device, but a bad phone. The built-in microphone is terrible, people were always screaming that they couldn't hear me unless I used a headset. The signal was poor too, and I would often not receive calls (with no missed call notification or anything).
The Cyanogenmod support is good, and for an old device it runs plenty smooth and plays all the games I throw at it. So it's not bad in that regard. But the actual phone functionality was a real problem for me.
frogacuda said:
i recently got rid of my skyrocket. It was a good device, but a bad phone. The built-in microphone is terrible, people were always screaming that they couldn't hear me unless i used a headset. The signal was poor too, and i would often not receive calls (with no missed call notification or anything).
The cyanogenmod support is good, and for an old device it runs plenty smooth and plays all the games i throw at it. So it's not bad in that regard. But the actual phone functionality was a real problem for me.
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mtdew said:
Faulty device or user error.
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lol didn't see your post
acejavelin said:
Well, I placed my order and should have my Skyrocket by the end of the week, and already have my Net10 SIM and $50 Unlimited card! So basically I am saying you will see more of me around here in the future. Thanks again bps119!
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Well, my Skyrocket arrived, looked great and appeared to be "new"... I fired it up and everything looked fine, but it wouldn't recognize the SIM card, just said "NO SIM INSTALLED - EMERGENCY CALLING ONLY" and wouldn't let me do anything in mobile networks at all (said something about must be registered to a network first), so I popped in an actual AT&T SIM, same result, and both SIM cards work in my old HTC Aria. Called the guy I bought it from on eBay, have to send it back and he will send me another new one. Hope this isn't a bad omen.
That sucks man, kinda takes the excitement out of getting the new phone. Oh well, forget it ever happened and hope that it was just a fluke.
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Honestly, you'll love the skyrocket. I've had mine for a little over a year and a half and it's more up-to-date than my girlfriend's s3. It's faster and lasts longer on battery as well. Although her s3 isn't rooted, being a newer device, you would think it would work better than mine. Not the case!
If you're trying to unlock your phone, there is an unlocking thread you could check out, although I'm not on touchwiz so I couldn't do it, others have had success with it so you shouldn't have to worry there. We're a great community, just like we've been when I first rooted a year and a half ago. Enjoy!

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