Games like Strikefleet Omega and Shadowgun crash with the screen flickering. Does anyone know why this happens?
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i have a tf300 and riptide crash like this too, looks like every one is having this problem.
Bump had this problem on prime with mc3 and now on the infinity. It has something to do with Tegra 3 I believe
In my two weeks of using my Infinity I came across this problem twice. Restarting the tablet always fixed it.
Even after restarting games do the same thing
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I'm guessing that this issue is related to the OpenGL Out Of Memory issues that seem to plague ICS on the Transformer devices.
The only way that I know of to "fix" the issue after it occurs is to reboot the device.
Not the best workaround, but until Asus fixes it, I'm not sure what else you can do.
If you want to verify if this is related to the OpenGL issue, just open a terminal window and type this:
logcat | grep -i opengl
If you see OpenGL out of memory errors, then it's probably related...
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Yeah I get consistent screen flickering almost guaranteed anytime I play a game. Is there a rom that fixes this?
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I found a fix for this, at least it worked for me.
First power off the device.
Then hold the power button and volume down button.
You should see some text in the top left corner, let go and press the volume up button.
Now clear cache and reboot.
Everything should now work fine!
Something strange going on there because all of the games mentioned have played perfectly for me over the last several weeks. Six Guns is the only game I've been unable to play because of graphical issues.
No issues with game play for me, except for Modern Combat 3. I would constantly get connection loss during game play. Although not as often when I had my Prime.
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I had this issue as well, however, since i removed all of my third party launchers and went back to the stock launcher I haven't had a problem. There was another thread in here someplace where someone else said the same thing. Another thing I did was remove the apps that mess with the scheduler and cpu (ATP tweak, no frills cpu, etc), and of course froze alot of bloatware. Ever since I did that the tablet has no problems and absolutely screams. I would recommend stripping it down to as close to stock (what you would see if you just did factory reset) then work your way back up testing apps as you go. I have a feeling the launcher apps and/or the scheduler/cpu tweaking apps are not quite optimized for the infinity.
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Does anyone know why this happens?
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I have had the same thing happen to me. The cause is lack of memory, more specific, contiguous memory. Especially when playing a graphics intensive game, it will want large chunks of memory. This would have been less of a problem if all apps used the java VM, which takes care of the memory management and reduces memory fragmentation. However to get the most out of the system, most games do not (exclusively) use the java VM, but are written in native code. This however puts the job of memory management in the hands of the developer, being one myself, I know it is hard to keep track of every piece of memory the app uses and thus, should release again after use. Not doing so can cause memory leaks and memory fragmentation, so the next app you run will have less memory at its disposal.
The solution that works for me before starting a "big" game is to make sure no unnecessary apps run in the background and check the available memory. I have found FMR Memory Cleaner to be quite useful. If the game still crashes or causes the screen to flicker, reboot. If that doesn't help, uninstall/freeze/disable those apps that FMR lists, but you can do without, then try again, and maybe even add a reboot for good measure.
The drawback of having such a high resolution screen on the TF700 is that it requires more memory to run when compared to the 1280x800 screens. Unfortunately ASUS did not increase the amount of memory...
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xcal321 said:
I have had the same thing happen to me. The cause is lack of memory, more specific, contiguous memory. Especially when playing a graphics intensive game, it will want large chunks of memory. This would have been less of a problem if all apps used the java VM, which takes care of the memory management and reduces memory fragmentation. However to get the most out of the system, most games do not (exclusively) use the java VM, but are written in native code. This however puts the job of memory management in the hands of the developer, being one myself, I know it is hard to keep track of every piece of memory the app uses and thus, should release again after use. Not doing so can cause memory leaks and memory fragmentation, so the next app you run will have less memory at its disposal.
The solution that works for me before starting a "big" game is to make sure no unnecessary apps run in the background and check the available memory. I have found FMR Memory Cleaner to be quite useful. If the game still crashes or causes the screen to flicker, reboot. If that doesn't help, uninstall/freeze/disable those apps that FMR lists, but you can do without, then try again, and maybe even add a reboot for good measure.
The drawback of having such a high resolution screen on the TF700 is that it requires more memory to run when compared to the 1280x800 screens. Unfortunately ASUS did not increase the amount of memory...
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This might illustrate my lack of knowledge when it comes to these things, but, is this something that Asus can fix by software upgrade or will it be a perpetual problem.
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Title says it all.
Yes, the gtab runs pretty darn well on a tegra duo core processor and 512 meg of memory. That said, since this device does well in multitask, nothing ever gets shut off when you press the home screen button.
Say you're watching youtube videos and then decide to play some games. So, you press the home button to "exit" out of youtube and then play your games. You then surf the net a bit, open up quickoffice to read some documents, etc.
Here's the thing. Everytime you press the home button, you're not shutting down the app. You're just going to your home screen. The apps are still running in the background. The more apps are running, the more resources your gtab will have to divert to those apps. I've been testing it, and the lag is definitely noticable after a while. All these apps that are piling up on top of one another will slow you gtab down considerably.
The two apps that I say are a must for every android device are the startup auditor and advance task killer. Use startup auditor to have control over what starts up. Your device will start up a lot faster. Use advance task killer to kill apps after you've used it. After all, what's the point of letting it run in the background when you're not using it? It's just wasting battery and processing resources.
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ATK is bad news. The Android OS DOES NOT need this invasive software. You'll have a lot more problems with it than without it. There are many, many developer-written articles which prove this. You really outta take that off any device you have it on.
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ATK is bad news. The Android OS DOES NOT need this invasive software. You'll have a lot more problems with it than without it. There are many, many developer-written articles which prove this. You really outta take that off any device you have it on.
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After reading a few pages on this, I'm convinced. I'll edit the OP.
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Title says it all.
Yes, the gtab runs pretty darn well on a tegra duo core processor and 512 meg of memory. That said, since this device does well in multitask, nothing ever gets shut off when you press the home screen button.
Say you're watching youtube videos and then decide to play some games. So, you press the home button to "exit" out of youtube and then play your games. You then surf the net a bit, open up quickoffice to read some documents, etc.
Here's the thing. Everytime you press the home button, you're not shutting down the app. You're just going to your home screen. The apps are still running in the background. The more apps are running, the more resources your gtab will have to divert to those apps. I've been testing it, and the lag is definitely noticable after a while. All these apps that are piling up on top of one another will slow you gtab down considerably.
The two apps that I say are a must for every android device are the startup auditor and advance task killer. Use startup auditor to have control over what starts up. Your device will start up a lot faster. Use advance task killer to kill apps after you've used it. After all, what's the point of letting it run in the background when you're not using it? It's just wasting battery and processing resources.
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I get the point you are trying to make, even if the software you have recommended is not the best. I use aCCleaner to clear my cache and SuperBox (10 programs in 1) to free the memory it comes with quite a few other utilities. Installer/uninstaller, App2SD, cache, taskkiller which I seldom need or use, settings, file manager and safeguard which tells you the risk level of the programs or services running on G Tab. Efficiency is everything.
You know, in theory all these articles have grounding but I can say IMHO "every android device I have owned runs more responsive when I kill using a task manager. "
I can feel the difference in speed when I use my photo editing software and then jump online for some image searching. Taskillers may not be perfect, and I especially don't advocate using the constantly running autokill features, I have found greater responsiveness from my devices when using multiple high end softwares consecutively. Like I said JMHO.
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Does transformer need to install any task killer? My transformer runs a little bit laggy after openingtoo many apps behind.
You may get a bunch of different answers/opinions on this. The short answer is no. Android handles memory as it needs it by closing apps as needed. There have been a lot of post on task killers and how they can interfere with the way Android should run. There are also people that use them and have good results. I don't use one and have a few android devices and they all work fine regarding memory.
I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) myself and only the widget. That one stops all the current apps. I seldom use this function as Android seems to be pretty capable of handling the memory by itself. Only in rare occasions the TF slows down or lags a little, I use it.
Probably you want to try active apps. I dont know if it's working with honey comb but it does quite well identifying what applications are running and cpu usage. Probably it will help.
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How about minfreemanager? I kind of like that, it seems to be a good compromise between ATK and letting android handle the memory.
Of course, this also depends on the user, always press back instead of homescreen to close the app.
I've not needed a task killer at all yet. Once everyother day I restart it just to be safe, but I have been attributing it to honeycomb "beta" problems and/or the fact that it's not complete yet.
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I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) myself and only the widget. That one stops all the current apps. I seldom use this function as Android seems to be pretty capable of handling the memory by itself. Only in rare occasions the TF slows down or lags a little, I use it.
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I am also using ATF and wondering why some programs will not kill off even tho i select it to kill. Like logmein, i select it and kill it, a minute later it shows up again ??? Does AFk even work? I noticed that after killing off some apps i see it frees up more memory, but couple of minutes later the same apps will start again....
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I am also using ATF and wondering why some programs will not kill off even tho i select it to kill. Like logmein, i select it and kill it, a minute later it shows up again ??? Does AFk even work? I noticed that after killing off some apps i see it frees up more memory, but couple of minutes later the same apps will start again....
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it's because since Froyo, the most a task killer can do is to restart the app / release it from memory. What it means is .. if your program runs a service/ Thread, the program will not be killed but merely restarting the app. That's y some apps that get restarted will show up again. The only way to kill is either you get a super user to do the kill from command shell 'kill -9 PID' or
go to the settings -> Applications and click on stop.
Hope this helps.
Also using task killer is not a good idea. It might drain battery if you use it regularly. if you asked me why? because when you restart the app/ kill the app, the program will load (this actually consuming CPU hence battery) again.
And if you asked again why did google keep those in memory?
it's because it's designed so that when you want to open up again it's faster..
Here is a link that might be helpful.
http://androinica.com/2010/05/googl...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
I use atk, but like others I only use the widget. It's mostly a compulsive thing; I like to hit it twice and see my available memory shoot up 200 megs. I'm sure HC can handle it but I could swear it reduces lag in some instances; as if some apps or HC interfaces are scaleable to remaining available memory. Probably my imagination, but it hasn't hurt me yet.
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I have noticed that occasionally browser closes itself while reading news and I'm being back to reloading news app. I thought perhaps it's my fingers touching back button. But after installing Tasker it gave me warnings, pointing to limited memory. My investigation shows that browser can take up to 150MB with few tabs open, depending how you exit the browser. With 370MB total on this phone it creates low memory condition and results in system killing all foreground processes to reclaim memory. So that's me being kicked out of my news :-l
I did factory reset thinking perhaps it's due to rooting but it's not it. I have a few apps but not that many.
Now the phone was marketed as gaming device. Do we know if the gpu memory 140MB is used at all for graphics by regular apps? Also is every game using it or is it utilized only by Tegra specific games?
I'm starting to think that 512MB is real issue, affecting phone's normal use. Even if you have your active app running ok often you may notice that your previous app was removed since system tries to clean background processes first. In my case news needs re-downloading and then I have to navigate to the place I left.
I just hope gingerbread will address the issue, to some extend.
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Have you frozen the Tmobile bloat? I got one memory error message before I rooted & froze. I haven't got any since & that is running a custom home (Go Launcher EX or SPB 3D) with Lookout, Watchdog, Wifi calling, Noom & a ton of custom live widgets.
Is this with the stock browser? I used Skyfire & it was a bit buggy so I use the stock but I keep my tab count to a minimum - usually less than 3 at a time because I have Flash enabled. In fact Flash could be your issue. Try disabling Flash and see what happens.
Bloatware was first thing axed. it's on stock browser. just checked dolphin browser with flash disabled and received low memory notification from tasker when browsing on three tabs. So it's not browser or flash specific. Can somebody confirm that browser can allocate 100 or more MB when using it actively? I was bit shocked seeing this.
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This never happened to me. I just checked my available memory when watching a flash video in the browser and it was still showing 137mb left. While playing pocket legends it is telling me I have 111mb left.
Sometimes certain apps that are coded wrong will suck up a ton of memory. This happened to me when I downloaded the NFL mobile app.
I can't speak for a g2x, but since my g2 has the same ram, I can say on stock browser regardless of the amount of ram I have available which always seems to be around 50 to 70, browsing has never been an issue for me. I only get insuffcient memory issues when installing apps from the market on rare occassions, redownload and it usually works. Not sure if this helps, but a phone with same memory specs just chiming in. I'm running cm7, a few widgets mostly utilities stuff.
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Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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works just fine for me, offline maps and all
works fine on mine too (I'm on .26 WW, it also worked on .22)
on which version are you?
have you tried to delete the app cache?
have you installed the latest update for maps (01.08.2012)?
I also noticed that Gmaps always crashes when I hold the tablet in portrait mode. No problem in landscape.
Hi, I was having problems the last few times I used it, did the cache increase sizes and all, with no luck. What I tried right now, * appears * to be working and have fixed the problems. (Disclaimer, I haven't spent that much time with it, so not sure if it's fixed or what - but from my previous experience, it seems like it worked.)
I did a "cold boot" on the device that I read on other forums. TF 700 Forums
You will NOT lose any data! This is not a hard reset. It takes a few seconds longer to reboot (just this one time) with some diagnostics/debug tools on screen. But since then, it has soo far helped Google Earth. (I know your questions was related to maps specifically, but this could be the same thing.)
Hope this helps!
DTB
Interestingly it does the same on my TF300T too. Works like a charm on my Galaxy Note though.
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Cold Boot worked to fix Gmail and Maps on my TF101 Transformer
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What I tried right now, * appears * to be working and have fixed the problems. (Disclaimer, I haven't spent that much time with it, so not sure if it's fixed or what - but from my previous experience, it seems like it worked.)
I did a "cold boot" on the device that I read on other forums. [Sorry, can't post direct link to TF 700 Forums at transformerforums, "Various quick fixes links and help" thread.]
You will NOT lose any data! This is not a hard reset.
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Thank you! This worked to fix my Google Maps and Gmail crashes on my TF101 Transformer!
One issue I had with it was fixed by clearing the offline maps in the app settings
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I suspect that most of the google maps crashes are caused by the nvidia GL driver physical memory allocation bug. You can be pretty sure this is the cause if google maps crashes every time you start it but rebooting solves it for a while. Or you can check dmesg in a terminal for the kernel error message I talked about here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30737043
Note you would need to run dmesg fairly quickly after maps crashes since the kernel logs are polluted with debugging messages which ASUS seems to have rather sloppily left in the kernel.
--Brad
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Me too....
I have had exactly the same problem, but also with GMail. Both Maps and Gmail both crash and stop working. No message or error message. Happens so frequently, it makes the apps unusable. I have found small relief if I try to purge the memory of the tablet prior to using the app, but that is a terrible state of affairs if this great tablet has so much trouble working the most fundamental of apps....
Very frustrating ... I came from having the Acer A500, and never had an ounce of trouble...
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Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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I cold boot quite a bit...that's just me tho.
I pretty much see no bugs with anything.
Believe me I look for stuff that ain't working on my tab.
I learned to check everything after dealing with Windows for so many years.
...logcats are our friends!
I cold boot quite a lot too but I'm seeing constant Gmail crashes. I've also cleared its cache and data and limited background processes to 4, all to no avail. I had seen map issues too but the cold boots seem to have cleared that up. But not so with Gmail.
Dave
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I cold boot quite a lot too but I'm seeing constant Gmail crashes. I've also cleared its cache and data and limited background processes to 4, all to no avail. I had seen map issues too but the cold boots seem to have cleared that up. But not so with Gmail.
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Hmm...
Weird about the G-mail crashes.
G-mail works very well for me.
What about the regular mail client app?
Maybe fixed??
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Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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I am hoping that I am not speaking too soon, but the problem of crashing apps on my Infinity seems to have stopped. This is a weirdsituation as the only apps that seemed to have problems are the ones from Google. Google Maps, GMail etc. What I did was cleared the cache in Google Maps and also downloaded an app FMR Memory Cleaner. Now I am not sure which item did the trick, but I haven't had a crash for about 3 days now and that is a big improvement. I hope others might find similar success.
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Hmm...
Weird about the G-mail crashes.
G-mail works very well for me.
What about the regular mail client app?
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No crashes but I'm seeing issues withmy POP email account - the "12/31/1969" timestamp problem wherein some email show that timestamp and the email is empty. I can see the email on my PC but it is screwed up on the Android side.
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I suspect that most of the google maps crashes are caused by the nvidia GL driver physical memory allocation bug. You can be pretty sure this is the cause if google maps crashes every time you start it but rebooting solves it for a while.
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This is the correct answer.
It is in fact the correct answer to a great many problems/questions on the ICS TFs. This is the problem with nearly every Google app. This is the reason games "designed for Tegra 3" crash consistently on the flagship Tegra 3 tablet. This has probably generated a significant number of RMAs. etc, etc. If this bug had never existed, probably a fourth to a third of the problem threads on the XDA TF Forums and other related boards would not exist.
Some people will claim they don't "have" it or that they have "fixed" it by some hokey method, but this is untrue because it's a driver and memory issue that exists at the kernel level and exists on every TF running the ASUS stock kernel.
The reason people think they can fix it (or think they may not have the problem) is because:
They can work around it
When and how it manifests is highly random and configuration dependent.
I.e. When and how often it manifests depends heavily on the memory state of the system at any given point in time, which in turn depends on a lot of stuff.
So, for example, if you have a bunch of apps/services installed (and virtually everyone's setup is different in this regard, even your own setup will vary over time) it makes a huge difference in how often and when you are going to see it. It's kind of like playing Russian Roulette except it is a giant revolver with 10000 chambers and there can be anywhere from 1 to 10000 bullets chambered every time you pull the trigger (run an app, install a new app, start a new service, etc).
So there are no fixes at the user level (aside from unlocking and installing a custom kernel): ASUS is the only one who can truly fix it for a stock TF.
So, for us, there are only workarounds. After owning five TF devices all of which have regularly been affected by this bug, here is how I deal with it:
On first crash: Run FMR Memory Cleaner, rerun crashed app, this will often "fix" it for a long period if I have not got a lot of stuff installed.
If app crashes after FMR, rerun FMR again. This sounds crazy but if you rerun FMR two times in succession it will usually allocate so much RAM it will force the launcher to reload. NOTE: IT WILL LOOK LIKE THE LAUNCHER HAS CRASHED, IT HASN'T. Wait like 30seconds to a minute for it to restart. Now rerun your app. This seems to give me a new lease on life for 90%+ of the crashes.
However, if your app crashes AGAIN. You guessed it: Cold Boot. Silently curse ASUS and NVIDIA as the machine reboots if it makes you feel better.
NVIDIA discovered acknowledged and FIXED the bug earlier this year. ASUS has either through ignorance, laziness, or malice not incorporated that fix into any of their code prior to the JB kernel for the Nexus 7 and the TF300 (which they probably picked up by osmosis for the 3.x kernel source). IMHO, given the prevalence and impact of this issue, this is evidence that whoever is directing/driving their FW development and/or applications engineering is criminally incompetent.
We will continue to have these issues until ASUS either: fix ICS (won't happen) or release JB. I consider my device usable because I am aware of the issue and can almost always get it to do what I want without a full reboot. However, I pity the poor confused folks whose config causes them to see this often but do not have any technical understanding of the issue or the workarounds.
Unfortunately, I'm getting Gmail crashes even shortly after doing a cold boot. I tried uninstalling updates this AM but that didn't help. I'll have to try your Step (2) as I got a crash after running FMR Memory Cleaner. I think I already tried that as I did see the Launcher issue you mentioned. Really frustrating as between Gmail and Email, I have different problems. I've been trying K-9 but I don't really care for the interface. Maybe I'll just have to continue using my Xoom for mail (Or my Galaxy S3, truly the most solid Android device I have owned).
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Unfortunately, I'm getting Gmail crashes even shortly after doing a cold boot.
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Like zenaxe explained, the reason for a crash depends on a lot of stuff. This is why so many do not have the same symptoms you seem to be having. It might even be caused by some other app, rather than the Gmail app itself, but on it suffers from the side effects of that "rouge" app.
Step 1 is to eliminate all unnecessary apps from running in the background. You'd be amazed at what gets started when your reboot in completed. The easiest way is to list all tasks using System Tuner's task mananger (enable the System view aswell, no need to enable Kernel). From that list you can probably kill a bunch of apps, but usually the just restart so it's better to uninstall (so they won't start up again), or make sure you disable the Activities/Receivers that make the app (re) start on "its own". Disabling Activities/Receivers could render your app inoperable, so be careful what you disable.
Step 2, uninstalling updates is usually not the solution. Keep it up to date, as that one will have the most "knowledge" stored in it's code. Meaning, if Google found an issue with another app and the Gmail app, they might have worked around it in a newer version.
This is all from my own experience. When I first got the tablet, I went crazy in the play store and downloaded every single app I thought might be of use. After only just 1 week it had weird symptoms and apps would crash a lot. I decided to start over (factory date reset) and take a different approach. I still try out a lot of apps, but I started to use blue stacks to do all the "messy" install/tryout/uninstall, until I decide on the one or two apps to use.
Keep it clean and mean.
I just wanted to make a quick video of the speed of the tf700 on JB. I know alot of you are saying that this tablet is buggy/has i/o issues/ lag etc... but honestly i think this thing flies. If your tablet is not performing like how mine does in the video, you might want to either reinstall JB and/or do a COUPLE COLD REBOOTS. Honestly these help out alot for any update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zviGW1SvIg
Also note the speed with the heavy live wallpaper set to max, no lag what so ever!
[EDIT] Here is another video, i loaded a bunch of apps in the tray and started switching between apps. I have the dock attached, 2 sd cards, live wallpaper on full resolution and battery usage, and google now updating for sports. As you can see its effortless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKysz_llJKI
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I just wanted to make a quick video of the speed of the tf700 on JB. I know alot of you are saying that this tablet is buggy/has i/o issues/ lag etc... but honestly i think this thing flies. If your tablet is not performing like how mine does in the video, you might want to either reinstall JB and/or do a COUPLE COLD REBOOTS. Honestly these help out alot for any update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zviGW1SvIg
Also note the speed with the heavy live wallpaper set to max, no lag what so ever!
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Same eperience as mine.
Thanks for posting.
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snipped.......Also note the speed with the heavy live wallpaper set to max, no lag what so ever!
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Mine is fast as well...I did manage to make it slow down.....while running Nova Prime with 7 screens and close to a dozen widgets running...but even with all that running, it would still play a full size AVCHD format .m2ts file in BS Player butter smooth.
I have no "buyers remorse" what so ever. I think Asus put out a rockin' tablet with the 700. In my experience with it so far...what is not to like?
Thanks for the vid,
Brad
You spend most of your time switching between home screens, which is not a big challenge. Instead, try launching and using actuall apps and games, especially when doing a file operation in the background. You'll see the lag that people are talking about.
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You spend most of your time switching between home screens, which is not a big challenge. Instead, try launching and using actuall apps and games, especially when doing a file operation in the background. You'll see the lag that people are talking about.
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Honestly there is no difference. Currently i have the xda app open, along with both stock and firefox browser( firefox is able to play espn videos while the stock is just fast), my google voice and talk are also open ( talking to friend in NY and texting mom), i just opened YouTube to look at the comment left on the video you just viewed and i also have the world of goo going...all with that live wallpaper you see in the video. Honestly i have pushed this tablet to the limits and i still dont see any problem.
If you really want i can make another video showing me opening up every app i have, switch between them and show that there is no slow down?
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Honestly there is no difference. Currently i have the xda app open, along with both stock and firefox browser( firefox is able to play espn videos while the stock is just fast), my google voice and talk are also open ( talking to friend in NY and texting mom), i just opened YouTube to look at the comment left on the video you just viewed and i also have the world of goo going...all with that live wallpaper you see in the video. Honestly i have pushed this tablet to the limits and i still dont see any problem.
If you really want i can make another video showing me opening up every app i have, switch between them and show that there is no slow down?
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As was stated, if you want to prove or disprove IO issue, do run 17 apps, that's mostly memory. Kick off a large download then launch a browser an see how it loads and even after loading how it scrolls and respond to link clicking
While my tab generally performs well I did notice some IO lag come back with the JB update.
gottahavit said:
As was stated, if you want to prove or disprove IO issue, do run 17 apps, that's mostly memory. Kick off a large download then launch a browser an see how it loads and even after loading how it scrolls and respond to link clicking
While my tab generally performs well I did notice some IO lag come back with the JB update.
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No problem, give me five minutes and ill put another video in the original post. Ill open all my browers, video players, games, camera and anything else i can find lol
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Great idea. Perhaps ones concerned about performance should do the same and show exactly what they are seeing. Mine is just like yours. I now even run on power save as jb took away the navigation lag during the mode. Chaos rings even runs fine on the power save.
Try actually using the tablet, like using Maps for directions, finding a place, then use the browser for reviews, info, etc and maybe Yelp, Tripadvisor etc for other information. The tablet grinds to a halt once the OS has to start removing cached processes to free up memory, which again triggers a ton of (SQLite) I/O operations which is really bad on the useless NAND that Asus chose for this otherwise great tablet.
On another note, I was typing up this post (well, about the same) earlier and the tablet froze, and rebooted, stuck at the Asus logo. I had to reset it by holding down the power button for 10 seconds. The latest JB update has definately NOT fixed these freezing/rebooting issues.
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Maybe it's because i'm used to Windows XP, but I haven't noticed any lag on mine, even when running Navfree, stockbrowser 3 tabs, where's my perry, Photoshop mobile and mxplayer at the same time.
Does anyone use Kindle? I find it really slow at scrolling and sometimes it got a big white cropped field when trying to scroll down...
Posted new video. I really don't want to make a 20 minute video detailing every single thing i do on the tab. The apps you see loaded are on the lower end (number wise) of apps i usually have loaded at once. This tab has completely replaced my laptop so i am always on it. Basically take what you see in the video, add like 4 more apps and expand the video by an hour or so and this is the SAME performance i get...No slow down or glitches. Infinity FTW!
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I have noticed that the stock browser will load a page faster than before but immediately lags afterwards for a couple seconds, preventing scrolling. My biggest gripe is text entry via dock now. Copy and paste is VERY wonky still. Set default keyboard to android etc..... whatevs....
Thanks. That's more like the experience I was expecting. Mine is worlds apart, with stuttering, lag while switching apps and impossible to use browser. I'd post a recording but I had it sent to the lab a couple days ago. Hoping it comes back like yours.
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You spend most of your time switching between home screens, which is not a big challenge. Instead, try launching and using actuall apps and games, especially when doing a file operation in the background. You'll see the lag that people are talking about.
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Actually I spend most of my time in my e-mail apps answering email or in a word or spreadsheet app typing stuff or digesting LARGE .pdf files. I haven't installed any games yet and probably won't. I game on my PC....(mostly FPS).....now if I could get Tribes Ascend to run on this Infinity gizmo...SHAZBOT!
Any machine can be made to lag, stutter or crash. The TF700 does what I need it to do quite well.....could it be smoother?.....sure...but why, and how much would it cost?
A challenge? Download an 8+ gigabyte multi-volume RAR archive over wi-fi and unpack it. (not only CPU intensive, but the read / write operations are pretty staggering as well) ....
The Infinity did a fine job of it and in short order.
Cheers!
Brad
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Malkaridae said:
Does anyone use Kindle? I find it really slow at scrolling and sometimes it got a big white cropped field when trying to scroll down...
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Kindle works fine here....did they get rid of the page turn animation?
Brad
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I guess no one noticed the tablet locks up for 10 seconds in the video? When the OP taps the URL bar in the browser at ~0:53 the tablet stops responding completely. So you spent a minute and a half swiping between homescreens and tapping the notification tray, but of the 30 seconds you spent doing anything else, the tablet was unresponsive for 10.
That's proof there's no lag, right?
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Kindle works fine here....did they get rid of the page turn animation?
Brad
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Thanks for your response, I assume other file types are fine on kindle. However, normally I use PDF which causes lag during scrolling up and down the pages, and scrolling to next page sometimes freezes up also.
Cheers
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I guess no one noticed the tablet locks up for 10 seconds in the video? When the OP taps the URL bar in the browser at ~0:53 the tablet stops responding completely. So you spent a minute and a half swiping between homescreens and tapping the notification tray, but of the 30 seconds you spent doing anything else, the tablet was unresponsive for 10.
That's proof there's no lag, right?
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Wait what? lol the tablet didnt lock up at all, i was actually deciding what website to go to while at the same time thinking of the next app to load. Also the first time i put my finger to the bar i didnt actually tap the screen. The second time i had to look down a the keyboard while holding the phone to type. The videos is blurry, but the tablet immediately responds to my touch with a prompt to type. No lock ups or slow down
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Like i said before, if you don't have this experience, DO one of the two options: Reinstall jelly bean and/or do multiple cold boots. Its cleans everything up!
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pierrekid said:
Wait what? lol the tablet didnt lock up at all, i was actually deciding what website to go to while at the same time thinking of the next app to load.
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The URL menu dropped down (1:02) when your finger was nowhere near it in response to when you touched it earlier. You also need to change the batteries in your smoke detector.