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[Q] Is there a RUU for HBOOT 1.27.1100

Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?

james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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Hi,
Download hboot 1.17 HERE
Then you can use an RUU for that firmware.

which ruu can i use now???
i only want to restore my htc sensation completely!

james0912 said:
which ruu can i use now???
i only want to restore my htc sensation completely!
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Hi,
You need an RUU that matches your area and carrier.
Look HERE

malybru said:
Hi,
Download hboot 1.17 HERE
Then you can use an RUU for that firmware.
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Hey malybru can you flash this file with the stock recovery? Also this only changes the Hboot version correct?

T-Macgnolia said:
Hey malybru can you flash this file with the stock recovery? Also this only changes the Hboot version correct?
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Hi,
It's a PG58IMG.zip .
So, it's just placed on the sd card.
Recovery is not involved.
Yes,it will only change the hboot.

malybru said:
Hi,
It's a PG58IMG.zip .
So, it's just placed on the sd card.
Recovery is not involved.
Yes,it will only change the hboot.
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Man I had a duh money, I realized after I posted that that that file will flash automatically when you boot to Hboot, as that is the file name that Hboot looks for. But still doesn't Hboot use the recovery to flash the file?

T-Macgnolia said:
Man I had a duh money, I realized after I posted that that that file will flash automatically when you boot to Hboot, as that is the file name that Hboot looks for. But still doesn't Hboot use the recovery to flash the file?
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Hi,
I knew you knew that.
I just posted for general information.
I think it flashes in bootloader,before recovery starts.

malybru said:
Hi,
I knew you knew that.
I just posted for general information.
I think it flashes in bootloader,before recovery starts.
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Ok this will be my last post here cause I don't want to hyjack this thread.
This has brought a question to mind and I will have to see if I can find the answer some how. The question is what does Hboot use to flash the PG58IMG.zip. I personally have always thought it used recovery to flash the file.

T-Macgnolia said:
Ok this will be my last post here cause I don't want to hyjack this thread.
This has brought a question to mind and I will have to see if I can find the answer some how. The question is what does Hboot use to flash the PG58IMG.zip. I personally have always thought it used recovery to flash the file.
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It uses the bootloader to flash the file. If you put it on your sd card and reboot into bootloader (volume down button + power button) you will be asked to update. Choose yes using the volume buttons and the file will be flashed, easy as that
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA

james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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When you install a rom by a RUU, it will also flash the stock Hboot version. Take a look at the shipped roms thread.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA

james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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Hboot 1.27 is clearly ICS.
Download official RUU from here (RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed)
This is the latest official ICS RUU for unbranded Europe Sensation.
If your device is branded or your region is not Europe then search for the appropriare RUU.
Run the exe from pc with phone usb plugged. It will restore your phone as "out of the box".
Hope it helped.

Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
3) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?

FnH84 said:
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
3) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
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Hi,
1. I think that you can just run the RUU in the post above yours.(If your phone is European)
2.Downgrading is not possible on hboot 1.27.000
HTC have locked you out of this possibility.
3.As you say.Any 3.32. based ICS ROM.

malybru said:
Hi,
1. I think that you can just run the RUU in the post above yours.(If your phone is European)
2.Downgrading is not possible on hboot 1.27.000
HTC have locked you out of this possibility.
3.As you say.Any 3.32. based ICS ROM.
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Thank you very much Not planning un-root but was just wondering, in case I have to do that at some point, it's good to know how

FnH84 said:
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
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It can be done only by running corresponding RUU which can be found based on your firmware(in your case it is 3.32) and cid (to get cid "fastboot getvar cid")...if you are unbranded i.e. cid is HTC__001..then you can run the above mentioned ruu...or else you should get the appropriate one...if you can't find it then post your cid along with radio..we can find the appropriate one for you
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
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If you are S-ON you can't downgrade...not by running a RUU or by flashing firmware directly...that's why people use revolutionary first to get soff and then they'll flash unlocked firmware to update the hboot and all...
It you are SOFF you can literally do anything ..upgrade, downgrade..its your choice..
3 ) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
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As you are unlocked via HTC dev..if you update your recovery with 4EXT latest one which has smartflash mode ON(exclusive SON flash)..you could have any ROM
Edit: I'm bit late huh anyways for more detailed answer look ay my post
sent from my blazing fast pyramid through sonic waves

[HOWTO] [HTC One SV] Unbrand your phone to get the OTA updates

Bonjour everyone, here's a little guide on how to unbrand your phone in order to get the OTA updates notifications directly and be able to install them.
If you want to get S-OFF one day on your One SV, read this first. You need to change CID to SuperCID to do so, and it's not possible (for the moment) if you upgrade to JB
Basically this works as long as your phone model is sold unbranded somewhere in the world and that the people having such a phone got an OTA update.
For now, ther's no way to change CID if you're running JB and are S-ON. That means that this only work for One SV's running ICS who want to get the OTA updates.
As far as I know, it works on K2_U and K2_UL, since they both got an OTA update to JB.
The trick is simple, I didn't invent it and haven't been able to find its original founder, but thanks a lot to her or him !
I'm basically just a messenger here since I only tried out some stuff that worked with other phones, so thanks a lot to bkcokota, old.splatterhand and jmztaylor
Don't try it if you're worried, bricks happen, you'd be the only one responsible !
Here we go :
1. First you need to root your phone, here's how.
2. Change you CID using the same method than for the One S.
Personnaly, I changed it to "HTC__203", which is the CID unbranded HTC phones have in France (HTC-FRA).
For example, "HTC__001" is HTC-WWE, which stands for World Wide English.
You can change it to whatever CID you like : choose it well. I can only recommend to use HTC__203 since it's the only one I tried and that it worked, but do as you please !
3. Flash stock recovery back. You'll find it here or here. Flash it like you flashed CWM recovery (into fastboot, using fastboot flash recovery xxxxxx.img).
4. Relock your bootloader. It's possible that it's not necessary, but it can't hurt ("fastboot oem lock", when in fastboot usb)
5. Run a RUU that matches you unbranded CID to get an "unbranded" rom.
You'll find them here, for example. The "RUU_K2_UL_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.17.401.5_R....exe" one will work with HTC__203 and HTC__001 CIDs.
6. Go ask your phone if he can find any updates
WARNING : for the moment there's no way to change CID if you upgrade to JB since the newer HBOOT (v2.00) don't let you do it. That means that for now you won't be able to S-OFF if you upgrate to JB using this method. For now...

Nice one!
Only thing i would add for people to know:
if somebody want to get S-Off, they should change the CID to SuperCID 11111111 (or if you want 22222222,...).

old.splatterhand said:
Nice one!
Only thing i would add for people to know:
if somebody want to get S-Off, they should change the CID to SuperCID 11111111 (or if you want 22222222,...).
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Done, sir.
It was only said at the bottom of the message at first, but now I put it at the beginning as well.
There's one thing that I'm trying to get though : according to a lot of people and forums, you don't get OTA when you have SuperCID... but some poeple say they do.
It probably changes depending on the type of HTC phone, but also depending on the OTA (some got the first ones, but not the latest...).

I got the ota notification with SuperCID, i think it depends on more things.
But there i'm not far enough into it.

I have had no success at all. My story:
Updated a branded phone to JB, rooted. Then I did a moonshine S-off and changed CID to HTC__001 (even tried 11111111).
I have downloaded a ICS RUU (couldn't find stock K2_UL so I thought that I would download ICS first and then do OTA to JB) but I am getting error 158. I have checked md5 sum and it matches (http://androidfiles.org/ruu/getdown...0.14_2_10.49.40.11L_release_301902_signed.exe). Any ideas?

If you're on jb and hboot 2.00, that's normal... and written in the first post.

There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot, but I guess that I have had success in changing to superCID (at least this is what I can read in bootloader and using fastboot oem readcid command.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?

Is there any chance to make this for the k2cl ( boost mobile ) version?

idr666 said:
Is there any chance to make this for the k2cl ( boost mobile ) version?
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Can you be more specific, what you mean with "this".

old.splatterhand said:
Can you be more specific, what you mean with "this".
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Sorry, I was wondering if there is a way to update this phone ( the k2cl ) to JB

idr666 said:
Sorry, I was wondering if there is a way to update this phone ( the k2cl ) to JB
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Boost has no official jb, but i know that there is work for an custom jb rom for boost.

Oh, thank you for the info. Is there any link about this work in progress?

idr666 said:
Oh, thank you for the info. Is there any link about this work in progress?
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Look here

szympro said:
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot, but I guess that I have had success in changing to superCID (at least this is what I can read in bootloader and using fastboot oem readcid command.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
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old.splatterhand, you seem to know this and that about One SV. No chance for older RUU, right? I can't seem to find a clean WWE JB OTA update. I just want a clean, stock, not modified ROM from HTC and I thought RUU is the only way to go :crying: Any advices?

szympro said:
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot,...
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This was before moonshine was available. With S-Off i think it should be possible.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
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I think so.
szympro said:
old.splatterhand, you seem to know this and that about One SV. No chance for older RUU, right? I can't seem to find a clean WWE JB OTA update. I just want a clean, stock, not modified ROM from HTC and I thought RUU is the only way to go :crying: Any advices?
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To get it a bit clearer.
At this point i'm not very up to date, thats why i didn't answer til now.
I think (but i'm not sure) you can flash the ruu, if you are on hboot 1.0.
And as you are S-Off you should be able to downgrade hboot. But this is a very risky point, you can easily brick your device. Here is, how you have to do:
rollon76 said:
To change hboot you will need a PL80IMG.zip on sdcard with android-info.txt and hboot.img inside it.
reboot to bootloader and flash.
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The thing what makes it difficult, is to get the hboot.img (its inside ics ruu), cause the htc ruu's encrypted and i only have heard about tools for linux which can decrypt it.

Thanks to your reply I did some research and I have managed to do what I wanted. I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux), then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
Should I post some files from RUU? 1.0 hboot or stock recovery? You guys need something?
Thanks for your helping hand old.splatterhand!

szympro said:
Thanks to your reply I did some research and I have managed to do what I wanted. I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux), then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
Should I post some files from RUU? 1.0 hboot or stock recovery? You guys need something?
Thanks for your helping hand old.splatterhand!
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Glad, it worked for you.
Yes, of course, everything is appreciated! You can use this thread, please post ruu name too. You can look at my posts there. Hboot, boot.img, recovery, radio, would be fine.

HERE have other ruu
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1t2zswod7tc97az/5hbzEgTv80

szympro said:
I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux)
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Wow, that's cool !
Did you use rollon's method and flashed PL80IMG.zip in bootloader mode ?
If yes, which android-info.txt did you use ?
If not, how did you do it ?
szympro said:
then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
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Even cooler for you.
Did you get the ota update notification for JB then ?
Did you manage to apply it ?
Thanks and congratulations !

Hi everyone.
Just a quick message to confirm that rollon's method works.
To downgrade you need to be S-OFF, extract and decrypt (with ruuveal, using linux or a linux virtualbox runned in windows) hboot and androidinfo from ICS RUU, put them in a zip named PL80IMG.zip, put it on your sd card and boot into bootloader. Then you can run the ICS RUU normally and you'll be back to stock ICS, with a "*** LOCKED ***" bootloader (not relocked !), will be able to go back to S-ON using "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (thanks to JMZ)...
You'll then have a locked S-ON out of box phone running 100% stock ICS with original boot, recovery and all that... who'll get the 2 JB OTA's...
In case anyone's interested

[Q] HBOOT 2.15 killing me...

*** WHAT MY PROBLEM IS***
PLEASE can someone confirm any AOSP ROM that works with 2.15 HBOOT?
***WHAT I KNOW***
( i know the CM 10.2 thread says that RUU 3.18 which will make the hboot 2.14 but since 2.15 is latest i assume it should support)
(i also know that [HBOOT 2.15 is essential for SENSE 5 4.2.2 to run,i believe that's the only reason people go for 2.15)
***WHAT I HAVE TRIED***
NOW from what i have tried is that the 1st stable cm 10 release doesn't work with 2.15 (obviously too old build) my screen also became responsive(i believe that because of touch panel firmware) then with the latest stable release of cm 10.1 it specified that it needs hboot 2.14 and hence couldn't flash.
with PAC 4.3 it does gets installed but screen is unresponsive and infinite bootloops!:silly:
***WILL THIS WORK***
so now if i RUU 3.18 i will have to unlock boot loader and root it (M SOFF SUPER CID) which i m not really ready to do!
now there are methods that can help u downgrade/upgrade your firmware , can i do that?
also will using torched kernel help in me in any way?
***WHY DO I WANT AOSP***
Viper XL 4.2.2 best ROM ever hats off but the thing is i dont know why but i have Signal issues i tried flashing the recommended RADIO version.
since the vendor had already RUUd my device that was meant from some ASIAN region and already came with SENSE 5 and i dint mess up with it in any way still i had signal issues (which are unpredictable) i found by GSAM BATTERY monitor that around 30 to 40% of my battery is consumed by RADIO.
also the best signal is around -81db
i also had some issues with camera!
and then there is the numerous options i can have with AOSP.
****LASTLY CAN ANYONE HELP****
:angel:

Just RUU. Your bootloader will remain unlocked and your S-OFF will remain
After the RUU you can flash recovery and flash a rom. You can technically just flash the 2.14 firmware.zip by extracting it from an OTA or an RUU, but easier to just ruu. and you get a nice clean wipe too.

I misread the m soff part sorry. You could have just run the ruu and twrp and been done in the time it took you to write that post.
Sent from my HTC One XL

954wrecker said:
He makes it hard to understand but he is S-ON so he is screwed at this point
Sent from my HTC One XL
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no no no i am SOFF i know for sure!!!

exad said:
Just RUU. Your bootloader will remain unlocked and your S-OFF will remain
After the RUU you can flash recovery and flash a rom. You can technically just flash the 2.14 firmware.zip by extracting it from an OTA or an RUU, but easier to just ruu. and you get a nice clean wipe too.
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jus for the sake for reassurance:
after RUU:
will Bootloader remain Unlocked?
will it still be SOFF?
and SUPERCID?
so these things will survive the RUU?

954wrecker said:
I misread the m soff part sorry. You could have just run the ruu and twrp and been done in the time it took you to write that post.
Sent from my HTC One XL
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LOL u are right thanks!
its just that m kinda paranoid cause every day in the Help and Troubleshooting section there is some thread dats says BRICKED so always to be on the safer side!

Sonone said:
jus for the sake for reassurance:
after RUU:
will Bootloader remain Unlocked?
will it still be SOFF?
and SUPERCID?
so these things will survive the RUU?
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yes

exad said:
yes
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thanks a lot EXAD!!!:good::good:
btw earlier you mentione its possible to extract the firmware file?
how can it be done?

Sonone said:
thanks a lot EXAD!!!:good::good:
btw earlier you mentione its possible to extract the firmware file?
how can it be done?
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the easiest way is to extract firmware.zip from a 3.17/3.18 ota file for your carrier.

exad said:
the easiest way is to extract firmware.zip from a 3.17/3.18 ota file for your carrier.
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I wouldn't mess with extracting the firmware files from the OTAs manually. If one of the hboot modules is missing, a brick can result. The OP is probably OK, since he has already manually updated to hboot 2.15. But RUU is still seems the safest way.

redpoint73 said:
I wouldn't mess with extracting the firmware files from the OTAs manually. If one of the hboot modules is missing, a brick can result. The OP is probably OK, since he has already manually updated to hboot 2.15. But RUU is still seems the safest way.
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as always thank you...
since u recoomend thats the safest way i will try out that.
have to download the RUU 3.18!!!
*waiting*

[Q] Juopunutbear HBOOT 1.27 Stock RUU

Hello guys. I'm new in this "world" and I need some help.
I have unlocked the bootloader using HTC Dev, I'm also root and I have 4EXT recovery.
I want to be S-off to be SuperCID, install firmware 3.33 universal and then install ROMs without problems.
The webpage of Juopunutbear says that I needd to have a stock RUU and no other ROMs are supported. I have Android 4.0.3 official, it was updated by the phone (I haven't changed anything, for now hehe). Can I use Juopunutbear? Is my Android a stock RUU? If not, how can I use Juopunutbear? I've been looking for Stock RUU but I haven't found any version equals or bigger than my build number (3.32). My sensation is a Vodafone Spanish phone.
Thank you!!!

NasterRetsan said:
Hello guys. I'm new in this "world" and I need some help.
I have unlocked the bootloader using HTC Dev, I'm also root and I have 4EXT recovery.
I want to be S-off to be SuperCID, install firmware 3.33 universal and then install ROMs without problems.
The webpage of Juopunutbear says that I needd to have a stock RUU and no other ROMs are supported. I have Android 4.0.3 official, it was updated by the phone (I haven't changed anything, for now hehe). Can I use Juopunutbear? Is my Android a stock RUU? If not, how can I use Juopunutbear? I've been looking for Stock RUU but I haven't found any version equals or bigger than my build number (3.32). My sensation is a Vodafone Spanish phone.
Thank you!!!
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you have the stock ruu
but i suggest to use this guide for S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187
you will avoid the wire trick

rzr86 said:
you have the stock ruu
but i suggest to use this guide for S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187
you will avoid the wire trick
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Thank you for your help! But Rumrunner didn't work, anyway I'll try to find out what the problem is

NasterRetsan said:
Thank you for your help! But Rumrunner didn't work, anyway I'll try to find out what the problem is
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read my post in the rumrunner thread
you will see it will work

Need stock firmware 2.21 or 2.19 from AT&T

Hello!
Need a signed stock firmware 2.21 or 2.19 from AT&T.
CID - CWS__01
Can any1 help?
i need s-off but i cant do it on 2.22

surely no one have it?

IkiZ said:
Hello!
Need a signed stock firmware 2.21 or 2.19 from AT&T.
CID - CWS__01
Can any1 help?
i need s-off but i cant do it on 2.22
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So what is your plan with a firmware?
If you are not s-off you can do absolutly NOTHING with a firmware.
This means with s-on you can´t go back neither with the firmware nor with the h-boot (wich is normally a part of the firmware).
You MUST go s-off before you can downgrade your firmware that´s the point.....also if your CID is matching
geets

shivasrage said:
So what is your plan with a firmware?
If you are not s-off you can do absolutly NOTHING with a firmware.
This means with s-on you can´t go back neither with the firmware nor with the h-boot (wich is normally a part of the firmware).
You MUST go s-off before you can downgrade your firmware that´s the point.....also if your CID is matching
geets
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Downgrading of hboot on s-on phones with the signed firmware from OTA is commonly used procedure ...

iourikil said:
Downgrading of hboot on s-on phones with the signed firmware from OTA is commonly used procedure ...
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Oh really ? I never heard of that but I´m very interested about the process..
so can you please discribe exactly how to downgrade the firmware(h-boot, radio etc.) on HTC ONE MINI
with s-on if this works and is commonly used it would be great to hear more about that...
(so till now I was quite sure that you can´t downgrade to a lower version with an RUU)
http://hafizimtiaz.wordpress.com/20...android-4-4-2-to-android-4-3-return-to-stock/
and yes I know its for M7 but in this direction I think the rules for the M4 are the same.
Or does he mean a standalone firmware.zip wich is included in the OTA dumps?
If yes how it could be flashed? hmmmmm.....via fastboot?
greets

im s-off and also trying to downgrade, mainily to get my camera fixed. any method to downgrade would help alot

romy134 said:
im s-off and also trying to downgrade, mainily to get my camera fixed. any method to downgrade would help alot
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To downgrade the firmware when you are s-off is no problem....it´s done in a few minutes...
So what´s going wrong with your downgrade?

In the Theory We can do downgrade with s-on. So anyone have the signed firmware from ATT?