next mottorola phone - General Questions and Answers

Will the next Mottorola phone out do the SGSIII

It should at least have a better radio in it for better data signals. Samsung still can't seem to put a decent radio in their phones. The radio in my bionic is better than the one in my SGS3.
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No cause its a motorola. Motorola may make good phones with a decent outside build quality but in general their phones suck on software. Case and point Droid x2 a great phone on paper only downside is ram (on paper) which is 512mb. Dual core 1ghz tegra2, qhd display, built like a beast, slim, 8mb camera, 8gb of on board memory.
Software side: locked boot loader, tons of glitches, music didn't play properly on custom roms as well as stock, stuck at 2.3.5. When trying to make a call there are dead spots on the screen so at times certain numbers can't be hit.
Hardware issues: had a bad digitizer 3 different phones all had it.
When you buy a Motorola all you are buying is a radio. Yes theirs are good better then HTC (Verizon sucks in my area but on my dx2 I never had problems making a call on 1 or no bars on my dinc2 on 1 bar I pray I can make a call and hold it.
So no. I don't care if they made a super smart phone that gimped out every other phone in the market, it still won't be better cause your dealing with moto. You will get abandoned even if your phone can handle the latest update and if your phone is over 7 months old you will get abandoned. There will be some major defect on software side that even devs can't fix.
So no. They will never make a phone better cause in order to make a better phone they can't abandon it. Sgs3 is already slated to get jb how many moto phones are slated to get it? Answer none as of yet. They haven't even made a phone that came out with Ics.
Don't buy from them. If your first priority is a phone then buy a feature phone by them cause they make damn good ones just don't break it cause their refurbished phones are all defective (this is the same for their smart phones, they have a lousy quality control team for refurbs) and then get a tab.
If you're on Verizon just stick with Samsung or HTC if your on another carrier then choose the other options like Sony. Don't even give moto the time of day. And them being owned by Google doesn't mean a thing Google will not police them.
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Yeah, beside radio, built and battery (which wouldn't be 3300mAh in the new one) they can't get out of the software swamp......

All new Motorola phones ( new models ) can have bootloader unlocked from Motorola itself
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Droid Razr Hd will outperform SGSIII.
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Droid Razr Hd will outperform SGSIII.
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Honestly, no Verizon phone truly is worth upgrading from Thunderbolt.

I keep looking to buy used or make future plans, but my tbolt is smooth, has a kickstand, voice and data at the same time.... there is nothing I want to upgrade to. Maybe wait on the S3? No reason to get a dual core, but might as well wait on quad.
My question, has anyone upgraded and found a vastly superior experience from current Verizon phones? I think I can last many more months and be happy on this phone....
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I'm in the same boat as you.. I know a lot of people with new Verizon phones and there is no way i would spend another $250 to upgrade at this point... This phone runs great
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+ 1 here as well. I actually chose the thunderbolt as my upgrade device in january.
Why?
For the features and money, anything else verizon is... Meh...
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had a fascinate and i didn't think this TB would be so much of a upgrade as it turned out to be. my wife gets jealous of it and she has a bionic... who would've though...?
I was going to make a thread like this today...
And even compared to the nexus we still have an unlocked bootloader, 4G, 32 gig removable card, removable batt, gorilla glass, a better 8 mp camera, and kickstand... plus ics on the way
Nexus has face unlock, nfc, samoled, dc (not a game changer), ics already and will get jellybean first, non-removable card, and a worse camera...
None of those things are worth $300 imo!
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Wow, TB love all around! I've actually been eligible for an upgrade for a few months now, but the Nexus didn't seem like that much of an upgrade. I was really looking into the Droid 4 (have tinges of keyboard envy), but idk -- it just didn't seem worth it. I hate to waste my early upgrade, but I think I might just wait the normal 2 years.
FWIW, I'm still totally stock, aside from using Go Launcher. I haven't even rooted or rom'd, so there's probably a whole other world to explore on this phone. I also have the Rezound battery and just got a new dock (the $10 one from htcpedia), which would be a shame to waste.
I love this phone. ICS would be nice, but i probably wouldnt use it without sense. I get great battery life, have beats audio, and a very smooth rom built for a dual core. Rezound would be nice, but im very happy.
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There's no way I'm replacing my Thunderbolt until I can get a phone that has the same flexibility (removable SD card, unlockable, rootable, lots of ROM options) and also has NFC.
Basically, Thunderbolt + NFC + better specs in all categories, is what I'm after, before I'd consider upgrading.
Yeah, the main thing for me is unlocked & 4G . . .
I love my liquid 3.2 aosp rom as well, this thing is so fast.
Getting rid of sense dropped the size of my TiBU folder from 705 mb to 210 mb due to the lesser amount of stock apps
I have an upgrade on my acct that i can use, but i think there is nothing worth upgrading to
Whats the deal with the rezound battery? Is it the same size with a larger capicity?
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I'm getting nexus today. Got another upgrade in October if something better comes out.
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I'm getting nexus today. Got another upgrade in October if something better comes out.
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sounds awesome! if money wasn't an issue, i would prob snag one today as well with the $100 discount, but i'll just wait a bit for an ota ics release
Got a droid razr maxx, and it is hands down superior in every way...espicially now that I am running ICS (AOKP)...wifey has the TB, and every time I touch it I am happy I upgraded.
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sounds awesome! if money wasn't an issue, i would prob snag one today as well with the $100 discount, but i'll just wait a bit for an ota ics release
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Well, didn't work out the way I liked. I could get upgrade but would have to pay $300 today. I called verizon twice and express my opinion on that, since it's $100 off today, and got hanged up on. Great support. So gonna wait 15 more days.
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IDK how a locked bootloader Moto is in every way 'superior', it's not even fully rooted - all you can do, boiled down, is lots of skinning and themes.
Call me simple, but that doesn't sound superior to me; sounds more like a cr-apple product.
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I am rocking the airborne rom, and I must say it is the best. I also have MIUI V5 on standby via bootmanager
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Ever since the battery life was fixed in one of the updates it's been a great phone. There are definitely some phones that I would consider an overall upgrade but not worth $. If I could upgrade and get a free Rezound, Razr or Nexus I might strongly consider...
Bionic is free but not really sure if I would pick a free Bionic over a free TBolt.
I'm with you guys, until there's another voice+data phone I'm not upgrading.
If Motorola started playing nice again and didn't encrypt the damn boot loader I'd be all about the Droid 4 as I miss my physical keyboard from my D1.
However, my biggest thing is that with AOSP email client doesn't work right when forwarding attachments. Which apparently is a non-issue in MotoBlur... I haven't used it, so can't say.
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My question, has anyone upgraded and found a vastly superior experience from current Verizon phones? I think I can last many more months and be happy on this phone....
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I had a Tb and now a Galaxy Nexus. I would say the experience is definitely superior, especially the display and stock android ics. I had lots of lag on my Tb, terrible battery drain, and the proximity sensor sucked balls. I hung up on people so many freaking times with my cheek it was ridiculous. The Nexus is a lot of fun and has been 100% stable. I was expecting a lot of bugs in ics but everything runs great. Get one today and don't look back, lol.
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Nexus has face unlock, nfc, samoled, dc (not a game changer), ics already and will get jellybean first, non-removable card, and a worse camera...
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I don't think the GN will get Jelly Bean first (at least officially). If I'm not mistaken there has always been a new Nexus with the new OS.
With that being said back to the original topic, I'm pretty happy with my TB. I have 2 upgrades available on my account and none of the recent phones have intrigued me enough to use one.
Sure I'd like ICS now but not enough to buy a GN, and the other phones (Rezound, RAZR, RAZR Max, LG Spectrum - yes I am including it because it has specs pretty close to the Rezound) are in the same boat as the TB waiting on a promised ICS release. Which means they aren't utilizing those dual core chips to their full potential anyways.

[Q] Who else is returning there ATT One X ?

I went from IPhone 4s to the ATT One X for the larger screen and wanted to get back to root and roms etc.. ( had rooted infuse b4 4s) but with the boot loader locked etc... I am really wanting to return it on the 28th day and wait for the Samsung G3.... thoughts?
There will be a work around just give it time but I'm not very impressed with the samsung galaxy s 3
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but we have such beautiful things to look forward to!!! Plus whats going to be better about the gs3, besides perhaps battery life and memory expandability. this is a much better looking phone with a better camera
http://youtu.be/4XwaI2xhx5Q?hd=1
Well, if you really in love with one X designed, you need to be more patient. Sooner or later the bootloader will be cracked. Otherwise, go for GS3 and start flashing by next month
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I moved from an iPhone 4s to this phone. Out of the box with no mods it's streets ahead of the 4s. Thing will only get better with time. I'm in for the long haul. I predict that only even number Galaxy releases will be worth a crap anyhow. Galaxy S Captivate= bad
SGS II was great.
SGS III designed by lawyers. No thanks
Not having the ability to command the phone via Bluetooth has me seriously considering returning it. Once I got my Android tablet my iPhone 4 was barely used for anything but music and phone calls but at least I could dial out without looking at the phone, an important feature for me since it's illegal here to operate a cell phone while driving a vehicle without using a hands free device.
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The ONE thing that may cause me to take this phone back is the completely crippled multitasking. I'm tempted to keep it for the hardware, but it's virtually useless when I can't even multitask between two apps without the state being saved.
I did use siri a lot in the car, and I think the 4s takes better pictures. But the screen on the one x is a lot better for my old eyes. The SG3 with the voice app, removable battery and SD card storage along with the whole ATT not letting HTC unlock the boot loader makes me want to return and switch. I have also read that the SC3 will get updates a lot faster than HTC and that Samsung is a lot easier to root/flash
Agree, coming from the iPhone 4 the additional screen real estate is fantastic. I loathe itunes and many things Apple does differently so I seriously don't want to go back but commuting without voice command is going to be painful.
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I did use siri a lot in the car, and I think the 4s takes better pictures. But the screen on the one x is a lot better for my old eyes. The SG3 with the voice app, removable battery and SD card storage along with the whole ATT not letting HTC unlock the boot loader makes me want to return and switch. I have also read that the SC3 will get updates a lot faster than HTC and that Samsung is a lot easier to root/flash
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Don't be on samsung pushing fast updated. I had the galaxy2 and it took forever to get updates from sammy. Also their hardware was always an issue. Poor gps, poor radios etc. I might return my OneX due to the multi tasking issue but I would not got the III.
The wifi, push email, multitasking, and app association (youtube and market links open up in browser, not the app) issues all bother me greatly. I'm planning to install the 1.82 RUU update and see if it fixes at least wifi and push email. If it fixes both of those, I will probably keep it and just deal with the multitasking and app association stuff. But right now I'm definitely planning to return if wifi and push email aren't fixed soon.
Oh no bugs.. I must return nows
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Oh no bugs.. I must return nows
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LOL....Hell no mine isn't going anywhere! Best phone I've used hands down.
I agree. Best phone I've had to date. I just came from the galaxy note. That was a laggy phone. before that I had a iPhone 4s. I wouldn't go back.
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I agree. Best phone I've had to date. I just came from the galaxy note. That was a laggy phone. before that I had a iPhone 4s. I wouldn't go back.
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I bought an iphone 4s in the beginning of March, took it back in less than 3 weeks. Maybe it's me, I don't get the hype. I'v had an infused, Atrix 1 and 2
and I tried the Nokia Lumia, which honestly wasn't a bad phone, just lacking in apps. This phone will be here for the long haul!!!
Love the One X..better than Vivid even and I loved my Vivid...Inspire before that, which was good for the time period..Samsung is OK but feels cheap when you hold it..
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It's Their, not there. There is a place. Their is an object that someone usually owns or possesses.
Simple 3rd grade english.
And no, I'm not taking mine back. Not sure why anyone would. It's the best phone on the market right now, and for the foreseeable future.
Don't be a supercilious, condescending, and annoying grammar nazi. It's the internet, mistakes ARE allowed.
Truthfully, I can live with this phone being locked for the rest of my possession of it. So there's no reason for me to turn it back in for a sub-par display and design when I'll eventually get the experience I want with the One X.
Trading mine for a white nexus. I love this phone no doubt but stock AOSP feels right.
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I went from IPhone 4s to the ATT One X for the larger screen and wanted to get back to root and roms etc.. ( had rooted infuse b4 4s) but with the boot loader locked etc... I am really wanting to return it on the 28th day and wait for the Samsung G3.... thoughts?
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Ya I'm with u this htc is sooooo slow compaired to my Galaxy nexus AND both my G2's , unless someone can get this boot loader hacked this phone is a joke at current stock settings, guess ill throw into a drawer and wait for hack, I have 30 days to return right? Personal opinion, this is the last time I stray away from Samsung that galaxy 3 is going to be way better phone + hacker / dev friendly .
MY OPINIONS YELL AT ME IF U WANT TO; ) but I do have 12 androids I'm compairing 2 so ......

Droid Razr HD or GSIII?

Which should I pick up(Verizon)? I feel like it's hardware vs software (why can't I have both? ). The build quality on this phone looks stellar and the kevlar looks boss, but it's lacking atm in development. On the other hand the GSIII has a GIANT following, dozens of ROMs, an extra gig of RAM, and just seems to be cared about/getting software attention.... but it looks like a kids toy... Will the Razr pick up speed? Opinions?
Go for the RAZR HD. Software can change, hardware not so much.
RAZR HD if u care about good reception and battery life
Cause even thou the g3 has roms we still beat them there vs a stock RAZR HD
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Hasn't this topic been beaten to death already in other threads? Pick up whatever one you want. A bunch of thread-posters aren't going to change your mind if you're decided on one already. They're both very good devices capable of doing a lot of the same stuff. It's going to depend on your personality and how you plan to use the phone.
Droid Razr HD :good:
Just saw the JB leak, getting the Razr haha.
+1 ^ saw the leak about 5mins ago, you beat me to it. Excited to test it out.
I just ditched my S3 on Sprint and am I ever glad I did. Loving the Razr much more.
Meanwhile, my S3 is streaming constant video on roaming until Sprint cancels my contract for me.
Razor hd. I live in a low service area with my s3 and it is horrible. I have to stand in a certain part of my house just to send a text. I recover no calls and making calls is out of the question. Personally I'd wait for the nexus 4 though mad swap to t-mobile.
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Razor hd. I live in a low service area with my s3 and it is horrible. I have to stand in a certain part of my house just to send a text. I recover no calls and making calls is out of the question. Personally I'd wait for the nexus 4 though mad swap to t-mobile.
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guess im at the opposite end. Sold my 32GB S3 and just got a razr HD yesterday. I like the phone and the JB leak makes it way smoother...but the locked bootloader and lack of development so far is making me wonder. I never had reception problems with my S3. IDK... missing my S3 tremendouslt a.t.m. The Razr HD is a nice phone. Feels way more solid in my hand and hardware is good. Build quality..superb. Just my ramblings...lol. Happy trails with whatever u decide. Thanks again devs for all your work. I am on XDA more than FB...have a great night everyone.
S3 by far.
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SIII more fashionable, DR is more manly.
Battery vs roms?
The other stuff is subjective.
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This screenshot from my RAZR is with Bluetooth enabled, GPS enabled, 4g on and the screen on set to auto brightness for the entire duration of the test while streaming slacker internet radio. Also for the entire duration of the test. Awesome battery life. Also it would seem as though this phone is capable of simultaneous data and voice even in 3g mode. Unless my phone is broken and not actually supposes to do that.
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I sold my S3 and switched to the Razr too. It is SO much faster - amazing phone and 1080p!
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I sold my S3 and switched to the Razr too. It is SO much faster - amazing phone and 1080p!
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720p actually, but yes a very vibrant HD screen. Video capture is 1080p.
Razr HD =
finishing iPhone and Android power :silly:
for sure S3 (but only the 4G version we are talking about here)
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Which should I pick up(Verizon)? I feel like it's hardware vs software (why can't I have both? ). The build quality on this phone looks stellar and the kevlar looks boss, but it's lacking atm in development. On the other hand the GSIII has a GIANT following, dozens of ROMs, an extra gig of RAM, and just seems to be cared about/getting software attention.... but it looks like a kids toy... Will the Razr pick up speed? Opinions?
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for sure S3 (but only the 4G version we are talking about here)
2G of RAM and quadcore kick ass,
check out the benchmark score and also i couldn't stand the speed of RAZR HD after i install all my apps
(restoring from back up online/cloud)
so does this means... the phone seems quick but only when it's new and empty (app-wise)
soon i load with 2 anti-virus, 4 chat apps, CPU&RAM monitor, Battery Widget, Netspeed monitor, App Protector...
and i thought i hate my HTC ONE X enough to love whatever phone next to it.
but... no, i changed it back to ONE X until i got my hands on S3 LTE version.
(this is only my point of view after using the phone *my way*)
cheers.:good:
Maybe it's just me, but even when playing with the two phones at a store, SG3 seemed more responsive and less laggy. Hopefully JB helps HD in that department.
I also think phones these days should come with two gigs of ram given how cheap ram is.
Overall, I am still undecided. Both are great phones, both have strong and weak points, which have been documented extensively by now.
It sounds like if you live in an area with weak signal, need long battery life and don't use the camera much, HD is your phone. If, on the other hand, you like slightly stronger specs and need a good camera, you are probably better off with SG3. Also, I like physical buttons (personal preference) and development is probably going to be stronger for SG3.
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for sure S3 (but only the 4G version we are talking about here)
2G of RAM and quadcore kick ass,
check out the benchmark score and also i couldn't stand the speed of RAZR HD after i install all my apps
(restoring from back up online/cloud)
so does this means... the phone seems quick but only when it's new and empty (app-wise)
soon i load with 2 anti-virus, 4 chat apps, CPU&RAM monitor, Battery Widget, Netspeed monitor, App Protector...
and i thought i hate my HTC ONE X enough to love whatever phone next to it.
but... no, i changed it back to ONE X until i got my hands on S3 LTE version.
(this is only my point of view after using the phone *my way*)
cheers.:good:
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Comments like this make me worry :/ I have heard many things about this phone lagging more than other flagship devices running 4.04(from sleep, lots of apps, laggy camera, b/c less ram?). Can this prominent lag experience be tweaked out and/or does jelly bean fix it? :/ I like my butter....

Your opinion on the S3

Hello all,
I currently have a HTC Thunderbolt on an unlimited data plan with Verizon. My phone is getting old, and is having a few problems. The screen has a few scratches on it, the battery life is poor, and I'm noticing that the speed isn't what I used to think it was. Consequently, I am thinking of purchasing a new phone and have given the Samsung Galaxy SIII some thought. I was wondering what you all thought about your phone and if there was anything you specifically disliked about it. I have been weighing my options, but have not made up my mind. Also, are there any other phones that you would suggest for me to investigate?
Thanks!
It's a good phone but I myself and my wife's phone suffer from poor signal reception and poor wifi signal. Not everyone experiences poor signal from what I've read on here and people I have talked to. Personally I'm about to leave Verizon or get another phone that's how bad the s3 signal reception is for me I can't speak for everyone else. If I can't make or receive phone calls or use my data, when where I had my HTC and Motorola devices i would have 2 to 3 bars more signal. I know a lot of people will come in and say that I'm full of crap but I'm just telling you my personal experience
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nothing but good things to say here. people complain about the reception, but i nor anyone else i know in person has these issues. ive the same or better service with the S3 versus my MOTO and brothers HTC phone.
does verizon still do 14 day test drives on phones? can see if it effects you or not.
I'm not sure if they do or not. I'm actually on my friend's plan (he added a line to his plan that I pay for) so that I could get the unlimited data option. So, I have to actually find out if I can "upgrade" or not. I was kind of planning on just buying the phone on ebay and then setting it up to use it on the account/network. Can I ask where you guys are located that you are or are not receiving signal?
GS3 on Verizon is a great phone. No signal or wireless radio issues for me. It's a little better than my previous Razr Maxx radio which surprised me.
It's still a beast phone though it's dual core. Don't get too caught up in how many cores the phone has. I've played with both the DNA & Note 2 and I saw tiny bit of lag. Wouldn't think I did with quad core processors and project butter Jelly Bean. I feel it's fluidity, speed, functionality is more about how the software is optimized with the hard ware that's running it.
If the Note 2 isn't too big for your liking, I'd get that but the S3 is still a boss. I think some people who have radio problems may be having defected hardware or something where they live is blocking or affecting the phone's signal.
I'm leaning more towards they received a GS3 with bad hardware, antenna, something of that nature. Samsung has been known to make crappy wireless radios on a couple phones like the Epic Touch (GS2) and I heard Galaxy Nexus had a bad one too.
I don't think the S3 has a bad one though? I good great service on mines. Maybe I live near good towers? But then again even when I go places and I'm not home I get good reception. But like I said maybe Samsung did produce some with poor or defected radios?
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I heard Galaxy Nexus had a bad one too.
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The Galaxy Nexus had a terrible 4G radio in the ones I owned, so I can attest to that. GS3 though has been great reception-wise, so it sounds like the reception issues others have seen is most likely hardware-related.
I have a GS3 for work and I really enjoy it. I'd say go for it.
Go with the GS3 dude! U won't regret it. I heard the DNA was locked down so I'd either go with the GS3 or Note 2. If you want something managable when in comes to phisical size, I have the GS3 with an otterbox commuter case and it fits nicely in my pocket and I can easily navigate with one hand, the Note 2 may be a bit more difficult
. The stock software is excellent although I highly reccomend unlocking and rooting. Its a kickass phone no doubt!
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Came from the g nex and the s3 is better in every aspect
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Came from the g nex and the s3 is better in every aspect
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Shibby87 said:
Go with the GS3 dude! U won't regret it. I heard the DNA was locked down so I'd either go with the GS3 or Note 2. If you want something managable when in comes to phisical size, I have the GS3 with an otterbox commuter case and it fits nicely in my pocket and I can easily navigate with one hand, the Note 2 may be a bit more difficult
. The stock software is excellent although I highly reccomend unlocking and rooting. Its a kickass phone no doubt!
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The note2 is also locked down...still much better choice than the DNA.
I personally would go with the DNA. I'm getting rid of my S3 for the DNA.
It has no SD slot and you can't remove the battery but I don't need those options.
The DNA is an amazing phone.
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I'm coming from a droid x & my GS3 is light years ahead of it!! No reception problems or anything bad to report at all. This baby only has a dual core processor but yet it smokes my Transformer Prime that had a quad processor! So yea cores mean nothing in most cases..found that out the hard way lol. As far as the DNA goes I hear the screen is nice but I also read on another site that the Samsung Galaxy 4 will supposedly be out Feb 2013.. Rocking a 13mp camera,1080p screen & a quad core processor. I was originally going for the note 2 but I'm absolutely loving the GS3...& I'm not even rooted yet lol.
I saw a DNA today at the verizon store. Not really impressed. S4 is going to blown it out the water.
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The only issue I have had with the S3 was it would take forever to refresh my widgets when I restarted the phone. After spending some quality time with a Verizon tech who was actually very knowledgeable and helpful, we figured out setting Power Saving to "off" solved the problem. I am now using Clean Rom 4.5 (soon to be 5.0) and I can set Power Saving to "on" without a problem if I want. Weird.
My daughter is having issues with her current phone on Verizon and spoke to a couple Verizon staff on what they would recommend for a reliable phone. They all said Galaxy S3 was their top recommendation. Since they knew they weren't selling her a phone (they told her she should go through support and get a new phone for free given her continuing issues) I think they were being very honest with her.
I'm gonna laugh so hard if the S4 has no SD slot and a non removable battery. I can see them going that route to make the phone thinner and more durable
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I'm gonna laugh so hard if the S4 has no SD slot and a non removable battery. I can see them going that route to make the phone thinner and more durable
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And if they don't go that route?
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I came from the Galaxy Nexus and the only issue I had wiht that is battery life which was managable but don't expect to go more than 8-10 hours with it. Even still it was worth it to have a pure google phone. I got the SGS3 only because I got a killer deal on it off contract. So I'm rocking that now. If anything I would say go this way:
Galaxy Nexus (Cheap and Pure Google Experience with Roms)
Galaxy S3 (Great Battery Life all around great phone)
Galaxy Note 2 (If you don't mind the screen and want Quad Core)
Wait for Galaxy S 4 which should be out sometime next year if you can wait.
I haven't had poor reception with my GNex or my S3 so all is good there. Depending on how much money you have either of the above will be great phones.
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And if they don't go that route?
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If they don't then I won't be upset
If they want to make the phone thinner, however, those 2 options are things that would help big time.
If they do get rid of the SD slot, they should be smart enough to offer high internal storage, but you know that Verizon will try and stop them.
Verizon is most likely the reason the DNA doesn't have an SD slot, they want people to use more data to stream and download
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Honestly this will probably be my last Samsung product.
The amount of bugs on this phone is inexcusable. On stock ICS TW:
- Can't use aux input with Bluetooth calls. This means if I was listening to music in my car through aux input and I got a Bluetooth call, I'd have to yank out the audio cord in order to hear the caller. Seriously, what the hell. I had this functionality working perfectly on a two year old phone.
- Google Music oddities. Sometimes when changing tracks the music stops playing. Turning on the screen resumes playing though. On the JB leaks this bug manifests in an even worse way and I have my doubts that it will be fixed for OTA.
And this isn't really a bug, but there's no way to disable the volume reduction upon plugging in an aux cable and that makes me sad.
So the answer lies in AOSP... thank god for our African Canadian sock monkey friend for leaking our unlocked bootloader... only...
- IMEI loss. Seriously Samsung? This is a huge oversight and is NOT the first time a bug like this has escaped their QA testing. Samsung products have been riddled with stories of bricks and poor code management across many of their devices, as one CM dev recently talked about.
- Real Time clock is oh-so-wrong. We're making CWM backups in the 70s! This one isn't too bad but its still annoying. Again, Samsung is to blame here.
- CM10 still early in development. I don't really know whose fault this is, whether it be Samsung for making things hard for CM devs to get things working on AOSP or a lack of attention for our device. Despite having a "stable" release, CM10 still has a number of known issues that I won't go over here. I still use CM10 and am eternally grateful to the person who pours their free time into giving our device AOSP (I love you, whoever you are) because those aforementioned issues are better than the alternative. It's still a situation where no matter which way I turn I have a buggy phone.
On my O.G. Incredible the only choice I had to deal with was having TV-Out and 720p video recording support or having ps3/Wii controller Bluetooth support. No matter which ROM I chose (AOSP or Stock) everything WORKED. With this phone I have to weigh the evils of each path and simply choose the lesser one.
I'm not really impressed with the DNA either. They do have an unlock (a very brick-prone one at that) but the hardware itself is riddled with issues (No SD card or removable battery, power button hard to press and is on the top of the very long device).
I'll probably get a lot of flak for this post, but its just my opinion. Aside from what I mentioned, I do enjoy the GS3. I just feel I could do much better
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Everyone has their needs. This phone doesn't fit yours. Good luck with whatever you choose in the future!
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Should I trade for a Droid Razr HD?

Straight trade. I need opinions by the morning.
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i would never do that.
Hold onto your S3 , I honestly think you'd be losing out on this one
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Thanks guys, that's how I was feeling too.
The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.
I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2
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The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.
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Not even the Note 2?
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I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2
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Have you tried any custom roms?
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Locked bootloaders suck!
For a non max hd? Never. For a razr hd maxx. Yes
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I'd probably do it for the maxx if development picks up.
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If you were to, then definitely go w/ the MAXX. I personally wouldn't trade at all. Best Android on the market based on size and feel.
I'd definitely stick with the S3.
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GS3 or GN2, anything else is a downgrade!
Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!
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Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!
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Yeah, I had the atrix and atrix 2 over on at&t (Atrices?) and the locked bootloader always pissed me off. That's what I love about Samsung, there will never not be a new rom to try.
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I'm with the others, certainly wouldn't do a straight trade.
A HD MAXX probably but not the HD. The camera is pretty bad though.
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Not even the Note 2?
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No I have small hands and that home button is terrible.
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i have both in my hands right now....traded my galaxy nexus for the razr HD...i love the build quality of the razr, battery life and the motorola radios..however it lacks the developer support that the s3 has...only a few roms out there....both feel about as fluid and fast as the other...so the main question is are you a crackflasher or not.....thats what it boils down to me....plus the amount of accessories for the s3 compared to the razr
The battery isn't a problem for the GS3 because of the fact you can put in a new battery or extended. The Razr line does have nice build quality but ugly design. To me, I think Samsung does a better job with their software and the camera is a lot better vs Motorola. I haven't notice any worst when it comes to wireless radio going from a Maxx to a GS3. The Wi-Fi is better on my GS3. Even though the newer Motorola phones have that "stock Android" look & feel it doesn't feel optimized yet. It lags from time to time. And the Samsung development is way better. The developers have done awesome work and pretty much negated the locked boot loader. Motorola's development is a joke. There's no reason to get a Motorola phone any time soon in my opinion. They haven't stepped anything up in the last few years except for battery life.

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