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do I get root after unlocking the device and installing custom rom or superSU?

as title. Thanks!

mrjayviper said:
as title. Thanks!
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Yes, just install custom rom then you have root. (root build-in custom rom). No need to install superSU, however you need to flash TWRP first inorder to flash custom rom.

[Q] Can I obtain Root on the stock ROM and keep over the air updates?

if so can anyone point out a tutorial?

Hello,
If your stock with only a custom recovery, you will need to download the OTA zip file and flash it via custom recovery.
However, if you have a custom kernel/mods installed then you will need flash the stock images and then flash the OTA zip via recovery.

Yes
You'll get the official OTA updates as long as you have the stock ROM(even if it is rooted) and Recovery.
But you may lose the root after the update.

Have a read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217

Can I achieve root without re-flashing the device? if not how can I backup my devices current configuration including apps etc?

Gilligan94 said:
Can I achieve root without re-flashing the device? if not how can I backup my devices current configuration including apps etc?
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You need to flash the SuperSU zip via recovery to have root access. Flashing supersu doesn't wipe your device's configuration or files. Unlocking the bootloader wipes it!
Use Helium to backup your apps when you're unrooted. Once you have root access, I would recommend using Titanium Backup!

vin4yak said:
You need to flash the SuperSU zip via recovery to have root access. Flashing supersu doesn't wipe your device's configuration or files. Unlocking the bootloader wipes it!
Use Helium to backup your apps when you're unrooted. Once you have root access, I would recommend using Titanium Backup!
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When would I need to unlock the bootloader? only if I changed to a custome ROM right?

Gilligan94 said:
When would I need to unlock the bootloader? only if I changed to a custome ROM right?
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the bootloader has to be unlocked to flash/boot to twrp/cwm, which is required for root.
please read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508292

Gilligan94 said:
When would I need to unlock the bootloader? only if I changed to a custome ROM right?
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I think you should head over to general section and read the Stickies first before tinkering with your device!
This is the flow...:
1. Unlock the bootloader (Wipes everything off the phone)
2. Flash custom recovery
3. Flash SuperSU.
Hoorah! You're rooted!

Rooting
And if your not sure how to root your phone i would really read up on it first or you may brick it,untill your sure you can do it.......If it aint bust dont fix it

[Q] Related to stock recovery/ROM.

Hey guys. So I am running 4.4.4 right now on my XT1033. Waiting for 5.0 now. However, I wanna root my phone now but I have some questions related to the update that I wanna clear first.
1, I already have unlocked my boot loader, will that affect my phone in receiving the OTA update?
2, Can I root my phone without removing the stock recovery, since I won't be flashing ROMs now and I wouldn't need it.
3, If I can't root without removing the stock recovery, how can I go back to stock recovery?
4, In order to update, do I have to unroot and lock the boot loader again or is that not necessary?
That's all. Keep in mind that my main concern is that I want root along with, when the time comes, the OTA update installation without any problems.
I am new at this so please bear with me. Hoping for an early reply, thank you.

Anyone?

drag00n619 said:
Hey guys. So I am running 4.4.4 right now on my XT1033. Waiting for 5.0 now. However, I wanna root my phone now but I have some questions related to the update that I wanna clear first.
1, I already have unlocked my boot loader, will that affect my phone in receiving the OTA update?
2, Can I root my phone without removing the stock recovery, since I won't be flashing ROMs now and I wouldn't need it.
3, If I can't root without removing the stock recovery, how can I go back to stock recovery?
4, In order to update, do I have to unroot and lock the boot loader again or is that not necessary?
That's all. Keep in mind that my main concern is that I want root along with, when the time comes, the OTA update installation without any problems.
I am new at this so please bear with me. Hoping for an early reply, thank you.
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1. There's no problem with unlocked bootloader in order to receive the OTA.
2. There's a method to root without modifying recovery. Search for "root moto g modaco" on google, and choose "option 1, superboot". (Since I am a junior member I cannot submit links) :crying:
3. You can also change recovery using fastboot or Mototools, flash supersu.zip and then flash stock recovery again using mototools, which is prepared to flash cwm, twrp or stock recovery,
4. You don't need to re-lock bootloader in order to update
Anyway, I read that you can receive the OTA being root, but only if you have not modifyied system (i.e removing system apk's) nor modifying kernel.
Hope this was useful!

arya5 said:
1. There's no problem with unlocked bootloader in order to receive the OTA.
2. There's a method to root without modifying recovery. Search for "root moto g modaco" on google, and choose "option 1, superboot". (Since I am a junior member I cannot submit links) :crying:
3. You can also change recovery using fastboot or Mototools, flash supersu.zip and then flash stock recovery again using mototools, which is prepared to flash cwm, twrp or stock recovery,
4. You don't need to re-lock bootloader in order to update
Anyway, I read that you can receive the OTA being root, but only if you have not modifyied system (i.e removing system apk's) nor modifying kernel.
Hope this was useful!
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Thank you, that really helped. And yea, I won't be messing around with the system apps, just gonna install Xposed.
2 more questions though
1, Is it possible to flash the stock recovery from CWM?
2, I read somewhere that the stock recovery can be extracted from the ROM of your phone. Is that true? That means that I can make a backup of my current ROM and also have the stock recovery with me, right?
Once again, thanks!

drag00n619 said:
Thank you, that really helped. And yea, I won't be messing around with the system apps, just gonna install Xposed.
2 more questions though
1, Is it possible to flash the stock recovery from CWM?
2, I read somewhere that the stock recovery can be extracted from the ROM of your phone. Is that true? That means that I can make a backup of my current ROM and also have the stock recovery with me, right?
Once again, thanks!
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A recovery can be flashed from recovery, but only if you have it on a flashable zip, if you have it on img format, you need to use mototools or fastboot from pc. This second option is more recommendable
Concerning second question, I think I don't understand you. Original recovery can be found at the original firmware, this means that if you flash the original stock firmware it comes with the stock recovery, but I am not sure that you will recover stock recovery restoring a previous backup. Sorry

[Q] Just want to use the "Titanium Backup" app

I am using Stock Kernel and CM 12.1 on my Oneplus One. I just want to use the "Titanium Backup" app (that running on Root device only). What exactly I need to do with my phone: ???
Just Unlock my Bootloader and run SuperSU ?
Can I still be able to use Rom OTA with the Unlock Bootloader ?
Thanks!

Too late for Titanium backup now!
Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
To answer your question briefly, in order to use Titanium Backup, you need a rooted device.
To root your device you need:
unlocked bootloader
custom recovery (i.e. TWRP )
When you unlock your bootloader, you will lose all your data - your phone will be wiped!
Long story short, it is now too late for you to use Titanium backup to backup your apps & data.
Please note that there are methods to backup your apps which do not require root access, but you will have to use adb & the command line - not for everyone, and not what you had in mind I imagine.
You might just want to make a list of your favourite apps, backup their data & settings as much as you can, and then once you've got some sort of backup done, proceed to unlock your bootloader (and wipe your device), install TWRP, gain root, and profit.
Once again: Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One

ohussain said:
Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
To answer your question briefly, in order to use Titanium Backup, you need a rooted device.
To root your device you need:
unlocked bootloader
custom recovery (i.e. TWRP )
When you unlock your bootloader, you will lose all your data - your phone will be wiped!
Long story short, it is now too late for you to use Titanium backup to backup your apps & data.
Please note that there are methods to backup your apps which do not require root access, but you will have to use adb & the command line - not for everyone, and not what you had in mind I imagine.
You might just want to make a list of your favourite apps, backup their data & settings as much as you can, and then once you've got some sort of backup done, proceed to unlock your bootloader (and wipe your device), install TWRP, gain root, and profit.
Once again: Please read this guide very carefully. It covers everything you need to know: [GUIDE] Unlock/Root/Flash for OnePlus One
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First thanks for your answer! Do I lose the rom OTA Update after unlock my bootloader and install TWRP ? Do I must change to the TWRP recover or I can use the stock one?
Sent from my A0001 using xda premium

You're welcome. You cannot use the stock recovery, and you will not receive OTAs once you've unlocked your bootloader, installed TWRP, and rooted.
Trust me, you are not missing out on anything - OTAs will be rare, and the quality of the OS provided by Cyanogen is low.
Once you have TWRP installed, you can choose to install other ROMs. I highly recommend XenonHD. Light, stable, AOSP-based (not a CM clone), with full layers support, and a balanced feature-set.
There are many ROMs available for the OnePlus One for you to choose from, and you could also run CM or OxygenOS - it's up to you.
Just make sure you read & follow Heisenberg's guide, and you'll be fine. :good:
Since you're coming from Cyanogen's lollipop build, you should pay special attention to the note at the end of section 2 of Heisenberg's guide ('How To Install A Custom Recovery On Your Device').

xperia_88 said:
First thanks for your answer! Do I lose the rom OTA Update after unlock my bootloader and install TWRP ? Do I must change to the TWRP recover or I can use the stock one?
Sent from my A0001 using xda premium
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Unlocking your bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA updates. However, having a custom recovery and root do. If you want to take an OTA in future you just need to flash the stock recovery and the stock system.img and OTA's will work perfectly.

ohussain said:
You're welcome. You cannot use the stock recovery, and you will not receive OTAs once you've unlocked your bootloader, installed TWRP, and rooted.
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This isn't entirely true, the unlocked bootloader doesn't matter.

Heisenberg said:
This isn't entirely true, the unlocked bootloader doesn't matter.
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You're God damn right.
That's what I meant, but thank you for clearing up precisely what precludes one from receiving OTA updates. :good:

Heisenberg said:
Unlocking your bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA updates. However, having a custom recovery and root do. If you want to take an OTA in future you just need to flash the stock recovery and the stock system.img and OTA's will work perfectly.
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Thanks for your clear answer!!!
Since I just want to use my favorite Titanium Backup but still using OTA update I would appreciate if you'LL guide me what is the easier way to do that.
I know now that to Unlocking my bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA but the custom recovery and root do so where I can find link to the stock recovery and the stock system.img and do I must to flash them after the Unlocking my bootloader ?
10X

xperia_88 said:
Thanks for your clear answer!!!
Since I just want to use my favorite Titanium Backup but still using OTA update I would appreciate if you'LL guide me what is the easier way to do that.
I know now that to Unlocking my bootloader has no effect on the ability to take OTA but the custom recovery and root do so where I can find link to the stock recovery and the stock system.img and do I must to flash them after the Unlocking my bootloader ?
10X
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In order to use Titanium you need to unlock your bootloader, then flash TWRP recovery, then use TWRP recovery to flash SuperSU. You'll have root now and Titanium will work. Once you get to the point where you want to take an OTA you can extract the system.img and the recovery.img from the fastboot zip which you'll find here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2906746
Flash them and then OTA updates will work. There are detailed instructions in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471

Question Install official RUI updates from TWRP?

So, I rooted my phone, for which I needed to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP. Now, when I want to install an update on my phone, it downloads and when I want to install it, it jumps to TWRP recovery instead of the phone's recovery, so I can't update my phone. Does anyone know how can I install the updates from TWRP?
Else, reinstall the default recovery. (Only the recovery, not the entire OS since that would un-root my phone)
Thanks.
Edit: After it boots to TWRP, it apparently tries to install the update, since I can see it on the log, but when I reboot my phone it has not installed. It errors: "E3994: This package is for "2169B" devices; this is a "". Updater process ended with ERROR: 1. Error installing zip file '/data/ota_package/OTA/.otaPackage/my_manifest_RMX3370_11.F.04_3040_202302282047.44.36402b59_all.zip'
Edit 2: After failing to install it, it prompts me to re-download it and re-install it, but it jumped from ~500MB update to 4.76GB update.

( may loose data)
I read in telegram channels, this twrp: https://www.pling.com/p/1922292 support installation latest zip. but I haven't tried.
one more thing you can do is ( may loose data)
1. restore twrp backup for recovery partition ( if you don't have backup. search recovery.img in upgrade zip )
2. reboot to recovery to check stock recovery is installed
3. install update
4. then follow steps to install twrp and magisk ( root again )

SanOne+1 said:
( may loose data)
I read in telegram channels, this twrp: https://www.pling.com/p/1922292 support installation latest zip. but I haven't tried.
one more thing you can do is ( may loose data)
1. restore twrp backup for recovery partition ( if you don't have backup. search recovery.img in upgrade zip )
2. reboot to recovery to check stock recovery is installed
3. install update
4. then follow steps to install twrp and magisk ( root again )
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Your guide is incorrect and will definitely put the device into bootloop.
** The twrp link that you shared doesn't allow system updates to install, it is just a A13 compatable twrp recovery.
1) What if that person has not created any twrp backup of all system partitions? According to his explanation, I'm pretty sure he has not created any backup of the partitions.
2) only flashing recovery image and installing the update will again put the device into bootloop because as confirmed by the OP that his device is rooted and due to root the boot image of the device gets modified so it will put the device into bootloop.
3) unless the OP has stock boot and recovery images at his disposal he should not attempt to install the update to avoid bootloop.
** Kindly avoid sharing incorrect information you aren't sure about the correct procedure.
procedure that I follow to flash updates :
1) in magisk - uninstall magisk - restore images
2) boot device into bootloader and flash stock boot and recovery.
3) boot device and install update.
4) put device again in bootloader and flash twrp and within twrp flash magisk and reboot.
I haven't found any easier way than this. If anyone has, kindly put it below.

There's a way
Rui 4.0 Android 13 f.02
So, any verdict on this new update for the people that did update to it?
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Recetly I succesfully updated my Realme GT Neo 2 5G via TWRP recovery, the latest version support OTA.
Attention! After update TWPR and Magisk gone. Just reflash twrp and flash magisk normally. No need to reflash modules etc. (Just update from settings, no need to manually flash ota package from TWRP)

Hello mate can u help me with something real quick. Y are there no recent updates for gt neo 2 and if u r using a custom rom based gt neo 2 hows ur experience so far. Thanks in advance
Xemi_KryTeT.pl said:
Recetly I succesfully updated my Realme GT Neo 2 5G via TWRP recovery, the latest version support OTA.
Attention! After update TWPR and Magisk gone. Just reflash twrp and flash magisk normally. No need to reflash modules etc. (Just update from settings, no need to manually flash ota package from TWRP)
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Which rom r u running and is it good?

Sabirsayed09 said:
Hello mate can u help me with something real quick. Y are there no recent updates for gt neo 2 and if u r using a custom rom based gt neo 2 hows ur experience so far. Thanks in advance
Which rom r u running and is it good?
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Latest stock (4.0), I'm not going to flash custom roms for now