Developer edition vs Unlocking bootloader? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Couple of questions regarding the new unlocked bootloader, forgive my ignorance if I am not asking this properly. Trying to decide if I should return or unlock and wait for developer editions SW to be released.
Once the developer edition is available, will a native version of the "developer edition" ROM be available to those who using the new unlocked bootloader and presumably a custom ROM now?
Ideally I would like to get back in sync with Samsung/Verizon ROM releases to avoid any OTA issues, return issues etc. What if any issues will I run into with this approach?
Anyone have any idea when the new Samsung Dev edition will be available? I just purchased the new S3 from Verizon (full price) and can return if needed in the next week. The phone is a dog as delivered. Many FC's on traditionally stable apps I have run in past.
I am meeting with the Samsung guy's at IFA in a few weeks on a related matter, will feedback whatever i can.
Other thoughts or concerns related to return vs unlocking and moving forward now.
Thank you all for the amazing work you are doing here. As a manufacturer of high end CE devices that inter-operate with handsets, I can tell you that benefits of the work you do, extend beyond the handset in many ways.

Unlocking the bootloader and getting a developer edition are essentially the same thing.
It would be a completely foolish purchase to get a dev edition at this point. \
I will try and answer, i have been reading quite a lot lately on this stuff, but am no expert.
Once the developer edition is available, will a native version of the "developer edition" ROM be available to those who using the new unlocked bootloader and presumably a custom ROM now?
AFAIK there will be no developer edition rom. Rom is the OS image, that the kernel is what you would run that needs to be custom. Now that the VZW S3 is unlocked, you can flash whatever kernel you want to it, which means roms which are currently being hacked into kexec kernel situations will run without that special boot mode.
Ideally I would like to get back in sync with Samsung/Verizon ROM releases to avoid any OTA issues, return issues etc. What if any issues will I run into with this approach?
None. You will get an image of factory stock, and flash this in ODIN. This will restore the stock rom/kernel/recovery etc and you will be fine. You may need to use ADB Push or triangle away to reset the flash count though.
Anyone have any idea when the new Samsung Dev edition will be available? I just purchased the new S3 from Verizon (full price) and can return if needed in the next week. The phone is a dog as delivered. Many FC's on traditionally stable apps I have run in past.
Do you understand that there is going to be no difference? The developer edition, or an unlocked VZW S3 running touchwiz will have the same FC issues. That is a rom vs app vs android version compatability.
FWIW i love my s3 and cannot say i have had issues. It sounds like the apps you are using.
Once again, why would you spend that much on a developer edition. Now the same thing you have in your hands IS a developers edition with an unlocked bootloader.
I am meeting with the Samsung guy's at IFA in a few weeks on a related matter, will feedback whatever i can.
LMAO. I am sure that he/she will care alot. Yeesh. Samsung just sells the phones, VZW is the one that locks them down. They sell the same hardware to all of the carriers who install bloatware or do whatever else with them.
Other thoughts or concerns related to return vs unlocking and moving forward now.
Yes, you are over thinking it.

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Unlocked Bootloader?

Once you root this phone, you can install custom roms, right? I was wondering because the Galaxy S doesn't seem to have any custom roms.
Is it just because it's not a North American phone, or is it because there's some kind of hardware restriction, like the Milestone and Droid X?
ive been hearing some pesky talk about encrypted drivers. Give it like 3-4 days and we'll see
I was going to give it a week or so to see what happens. Can't wait to get rid of my unlocked G1 though!
Custom rom isn't out yet. Once phone is released the actual copy of the US version of the rom will be floating around and someone will get hold of it and start modding. We just found out it can be rooted with the Euro version. I give it little time and you should see ppl posting custom roms for it. You might even see a Froyo mod coming soon. I pray to God this is possible. Actually i wouldn't mind plain old vanilla version. Again praying.
ps galaxy s has roms now, just not the u.s. version. The official u.s. release will change all that.
i wouldn't worry about.
the bootloader is open and not locked down like htc or motorola phones, to root takes only a few mins. no sweating involved

Locked Bootloader Motorola Atrix

Sorry I am a noob at android and i am trying to decide between which at&t phone i should choose. So does this locked bootloader thing set me back from customization for android phones?
Any other suggestions for at&t android phones i'm due for an upgrade june 2nd.
Bump?
Going crazy trying to figure out what android phone i want from at&t.
thanks in advance.
Yes, for now anyway. It means you cant install complete roms like CM7 or MIUI. The ones available are mostly themes. That said, there are multiple workarounds being worked on at the moment with good progress being made on them, so it probably wont be an issue before too long.
Personally, I'd go for the Atrix. Its still the best phone on AT&T from a raw horsepower perspective.
so eventually i will be able to unlock those custom roms, with that said if i get the device and root it what will be the extra features?

xoom family edition development?

Has there or will there be any family edition development?
Its the tablet I use at work and at minimum would like to at least debloat the thing, and have had researched and found a couple of people that exploited it but read it may cause the tablet to not recieve OTA updates and with the tablet without any custom roms or way to reverse engineer it back to stock, Im weary of doing the root.
anyways, just wondering...thanks
If I recall correctly, the FE edition doesn't get much love due to the fact it's not a GED and doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. So I doubt there would be much development for it. Going with the original XOOM would've been the best option.

[Q] S6 Bootloader, Rooting and Exynos

Having never had a Samsung device before, I might be turning to the S6 Edge once it's released to replace my ageing Nexus 5 but I have a few questions that can put me off and was wondering if you guys can clarify them for me.
1) Does the 'international' version come with a locked or unlocked bootloader (i.e. if I were to buy it off of Amazon UK). If locked, how easy is it to unlock the bootloader on previous Samsung phones? This probably also voids warranty unlike the Nexus and HTC right?
2) How easy has it been to root Samsung phones in the past?
3) What does having an Exynos processor mean (in terms of modding)? Will that make it harder to root? harder to unlock bootloader? Not being able to Install Stock Vanilla Android ROM?
4) Finally, I've played around with a couple of friend's Samsungs (Note 3,4, S5,S4) and I absolutely hate TouchWiz.. It just looks ugly. How easy is it to get rid of it all together, including sounds, menus, etc. (either by installing Stock Android ROM) or by removing these components from TouchWiz ROM?
5) To sum up. Ideally I'd like to have Vanilla Android Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and root, and customize as I like; do you think this would be possible? What would the tradeoffs?
I hope my questions are clear! If they aren't please let me know to clarify them further.
ombadboy said:
Having never had a Samsung device before, I might be turning to the S6 Edge once it's released to replace my ageing Nexus 5 but I have a few questions that can put me off and was wondering if you guys can clarify them for me.
1) Does the 'international' version come with a locked or unlocked bootloader (i.e. if I were to buy it off of Amazon UK). If locked, how easy is it to unlock the bootloader on previous Samsung phones? This probably also voids warranty unlike the Nexus and HTC right?
2) How easy has it been to root Samsung phones in the past?
3) What does having an Exynos processor mean (in terms of modding)? Will that make it harder to root? harder to unlock bootloader? Not being able to Install Stock Vanilla Android ROM?
4) Finally, I've played around with a couple of friend's Samsungs (Note 3,4, S5,S4) and I absolutely hate TouchWiz.. It just looks ugly. How easy is it to get rid of it all together, including sounds, menus, etc. (either by installing Stock Android ROM) or by removing these components from TouchWiz ROM?
5) To sum up. Ideally I'd like to have Vanilla Android Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and root, and customize as I like; do you think this would be possible? What would the tradeoffs?
I hope my questions are clear! If they aren't please let me know to clarify them further.
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1. We don't really know yet. As far as I know all previous international models of the Galaxy S phones had unlocked bootloaders.
2. With my S2 and S4 it has been really easy to root. I don't expect real problems here.
3. Here's where it gets tricky. Exynos processors made it harder to create AOSP roms due to the closed-source nature of the kernel. I expect there to be no change there.
4. Well, custom roms may be able to help here. They may be able to tweak the UI, remove bloatware or even change the whole UI. Perhaps a stable AOSP port will be created, it's too early to tell yet.
5. If you want an AOSP rom, I'm not sure if the S6 is what you're looking for. A Nexus device would be ideal or you can look at the HTC One M9. If you can live with a Touchwiz based rom, you shouldn't have any problems here.
This is just my view on this all. There may be others who can shed some light on it.
From what I understood, rooting your Samsung allows you to remove quite alot of the TouchWiz bloat. Is it possible to also get rid of the UI they stick ontop of Stock Android or is that baked in?
ombadboy said:
From what I understood, rooting your Samsung allows you to remove quite alot of the TouchWiz bloat. Is it possible to also get rid of the UI they stick ontop of Stock Android or is that baked in?
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Well, there is a difference between Touchwiz and the pre-installed applications. Touchwiz is the whole look&feel with the modified applications. This means a modded email client, dialer, contacts app, settings, launcher, power menu, etc.
While you can remove some applications while rooted (for example the Samsung Store), you can't modify the looks like the power menu, settings, top bar with the clock, etc.. This is baked into the rom itself.
Regarding the email, dialer, launcher and contacts apps, you can download and use third-party apps for that. This will make it look at lot better, but it won't fix everything.
I guess now that Xposed has been released for Lollipop ART as soon as Rovo manages to fix it for Samsung ROMs, that will also allow changing the UI on the TouchWiz ROM substantially right?
well, i hate samsung when will get modify the handset
if someone will succeed root samsung device, it must be can't claim on samsung service centre
well, i just have old exynos from S4/S5, we don't know yet S6 comes with exynos 14nm
hope developers will make it later
Samsung added themes to the s6
Samsung added themes in the s6 so you can change the look and feel of the device.
ww.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-themes-let-you-take-control-touchwiz
Rooting Galaxy S6
Hey all,
I am new to posting on XDA. I've seen similar post throughout XDA but nothing that really answers my questions. I recently purchased the S6 and I'd like to root it. I don't want to install custom ROMs all I want is root access for mods that might require that. I have the international variant SM-G920F.
I don't really care about being able to pay using my phone.
1) Most posts claim that I won't be able to update over the air (OTA), is that true? If so is there any luck that this will change in the near future?
2) What root method do you suggest? In terms of ease of use.
3) Mods. What mods do you suggest?
Thank you,
Need to SIM unlock a Galaxy S6
I purchased my phone (Samsung Galaxy S6) from Best Buy to be used with AT&T. This was after 2 AT&T employees and a Best Buy employee told me that getting the unlock code is very easy and straightforward. I have been to the web site to request unlock codes twice. Both times failed. After that I called and they told me, effectively, that my phone is too new. Due to this they require 6 months of paid service before they will consider unlocking it. I am due to leave the country in 4 months. I need to get this phone unlocked... Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
P.S. I am a computer programmer with a lot of experience. I already have the phone in developer mode with the ADB activated. I have the android developers toolkit installed and ready to go. I mention this just so anyone responding will have some idea of the technical level they can use when replying.
AbsaLootly said:
I purchased my phone (Samsung Galaxy S6) from Best Buy to be used with AT&T. This was after 2 AT&T employees and a Best Buy employee told me that getting the unlock code is very easy and straightforward. I have been to the web site to request unlock codes twice. Both times failed. After that I called and they told me, effectively, that my phone is too new. Due to this they require 6 months of paid service before they will consider unlocking it. I am due to leave the country in 4 months. I need to get this phone unlocked... Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
P.S. I am a computer programmer with a lot of experience. I already have the phone in developer mode with the ADB activated. I have the android developers toolkit installed and ready to go. I mention this just so anyone responding will have some idea of the technical level they can use when replying.
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What you will get, eventually, from ATT is a carrier unlock code that will allow you to use foreign carrier sim cards for service. This is not a bootloader unlock.
AbsaLootly said:
I purchased my phone (Samsung Galaxy S6) from Best Buy to be used with AT&T. This was after 2 AT&T employees and a Best Buy employee told me that getting the unlock code is very easy and straightforward. I have been to the web site to request unlock codes twice. Both times failed. After that I called and they told me, effectively, that my phone is too new. Due to this they require 6 months of paid service before they will consider unlocking it. I am due to leave the country in 4 months. I need to get this phone unlocked... Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
P.S. I am a computer programmer with a lot of experience. I already have the phone in developer mode with the ADB activated. I have the android developers toolkit installed and ready to go. I mention this just so anyone responding will have some idea of the technical level they can use when replying.
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1. This is a SIM Unlock, not a bootloader unlock. This will let you use your phone with other supported carriers, not unlock your bootloader.
2. If this is your intention, however, AT&T will only unlock the phone if you've completed your contract obligations with the line your phone is tied to. If you're under contract, you can't get it fully unlocked. However, if you tell them you need it internationally unlocked, they should be able to give you a different unlock code to get that to work. Try giving CS a ring and explain you need it unlocked for abroad, not for the US.
I have been trying the official routes to do the unlock
dandrumheller said:
What you will get, eventually, from ATT is a carrier unlock code that will allow you to use foreign carrier sim cards for service. This is not a bootloader unlock.
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I have tried the official routes (web site and phone) and been denied. They basically told me that while I own the phone, and owe them no money of any kind, the phone is too new. They are demanding 6 months of paid service to release the phone that I already own!
Unlock 5 minute 4K recording (Docomo Galaxy S6)
Just bought me the shiny new S6 and love everything about it except one thing; the 5 minute limit to 4K recording. Are there any apps that will let me record for longer durations, or is there a mod out there I need to use?
Thanks in advance.
Japan Jay said:
Just bought me the shiny new S6 and love everything about it except one thing; the 5 minute limit to 4K recording. Are there any apps that will let me record for longer durations, or is there a mod out there I need to use?
Thanks in advance.
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Any chance that you could download the QCN files from your phone so that I could use it in mine? That would really be awesome for me.
I have a Note 4, international.......not working good in Japan.

Help Rooting S8 for Stock Android

Hi all,
I have tried searching, but am a bit overwhelmed since I am new to this world. All I really want to do is take my new Sprint Galaxy S8 (bought from someone off craigslist, confirmed it is ready to be activated all clean etc.) and get plain vanilla android on it as if it were a Pixel/Nexus. It does not have to be an Oreo pre-release or anything, just whatever the most current stable build is for, ideally with OTA updates if possible?
So I need basic instructions for rooting it, along with access to whatever the best/simplest ROM is that fits my above description, and how to load that up safely with minimal maintenance (I am not sure if it updates regularly like stock does). Apologies if this is super basic and asked all the time...
I was planning to activate it with sprint after I get it all set up with the root, rom, and my own data... Would this be a problem? Sprint store rep said it should be fine though they are not technically supposed to say that of course, but is it better to activate it first then root/rom it? I'd prefer not to activate it until it is all set up with everything for me if I can
Thank you for any help!!!

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