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[Q] What is the best option for my situation?

So I have a ns4g that I attempted to root but got hung up and am now stuck with a unlocked bootloader but no super user. So as I see it I have 3 options (if you see others PLEASE TELL ME)
1. somehow get my bootloader locked again and go back to stock (unroot)
2. keep unlocked bootloader and eventually accept ics ota (will this be ok or will having an unlocked bootloader much things up with the ota?)
3. figure out a way to finish the root process I'm sort of in the middle of (aka get super user)
If it matters I am running 2.3.7 and using a macbook running 10.7.2
What would you guys suggest?

jmelick07 said:
So I have a ns4g that I attempted to root but got hung up and am now stuck with a unlocked bootloader but no super user. So as I see it I have 3 options (if you see others PLEASE TELL ME)
1. somehow get my bootloader locked again and go back to stock (unroot)
2. keep unlocked bootloader and eventually accept ics ota (will this be ok or will having an unlocked bootloader much things up with the ota?)
3. figure out a way to finish the root process I'm sort of in the middle of (aka get super user)
If it matters I am running 2.3.7 and using a macbook running 10.7.2
What would you guys suggest?
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flash a custom recovery(cwm or twrp) via fastboot, then flash a custom rom(and gapps). thats all you need. all the custom roms out there have root. you dont have to flash superuser.

How do I flash cwm? I think when I did this before I had the wrong version as it didn't allow for me to mount after I unlocked the bootloader

Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250583 to root! It will recognize that your bootloader is already unlocked and skips to flashing CMW and giving you root! There's a youtube video showing it in action if you get stuck by qbking!

Will this work with osx?

jmelick07 said:
How do I flash cwm? I think when I did this before I had the wrong version as it didn't allow for me to mount after I unlocked the bootloader
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heres the latest version of cwm recovery for the nexus s(not ns4G) http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-crespo.img
heres where all the cwm recoveries can be found, including the ns4g http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager

Ok, now how do I get that img on my phone?
The cwm for ns4g that I just downloaded that is

I'm fairly content just waiting for the google ics ota... when that comes will it mess my phone up because of my unlocked bootloader?

or even better can someone write me instructions to lock my bootloader?
I found this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875630
But obviously there are steps before this to have the terminal put these commands towards the phone.

jmelick07 said:
Ok, now how do I get that img on my phone?
The cwm for ns4g that I just downloaded that is
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look at part 3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782
only you dont need superuser, any custom rom has root.

Ok, I think I just want to relock my phone and wait for the ota...
I've tried just going into terminal and typing "fastboot oem lock" and it says that the command is not found... what did I do wrong?

You don't need to lock bootoader to get ota.

I've read before that accepting an ota with an unlocked bootloader will brick your phone... Can anyone else confirm that it's ok to accept the eventual ota with an unlocked bootloader?

HELP! Messed up with HTC Vivid

So as some of you may know, the vivid was recently unlocked. Being comfortable with root and custom roms from my nexus one, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it...
I then wanted to install a ROM that many were reporting to work well with the ATT vivid... however I did something wrong.
I first went here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365853 which says you need to install the kernel here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359656
However I guess I have no recovery? If I click on recovery in bootloader it just shows a phone with some arrows... and if I open ADB on my computer it just scrolls through stuff quickly then closes. Am I screwed? I can get to my bootloader at least... any help would be much appreciated.

If I could somehow flash the stock kernel back I'm sure it would work, as the stock kernel source is available at htcdev However I can't figure out how to get adb to let me actually enter commands while in the bootloader.

Solved it!
I pushed the recovery using fastboot on the computer and was able to flash the ROM. Yay!

Ok so how does your rom work for you? is it better than stock? Oh and of course what rom was it?
Gary

[Q] HTCdev.com Unlock - HBOOT cannot find Recovery Img.

I have tried everything under the sun, but I cannot get this thing to work. My phone will not find any recovery img I put on my SD card. No matter how new or old it may be. It is really frustrating. Can anyone help?

You're doing it wrong.
Take the recovery.img off your SD card and put it on your desktop. Then use fastboot to flash the recovery image.

Wait how do I use fastboot? I used a Mac to unlock my phone using htvdev.com's method.

My intentions are to also root my phone and install the new set Coindroid rom. Can I do that with my current setup? I couldn't use revolutionary because I own a Mac.

If you unlocked, then you know how to use fastboot!
To install the recovery you use
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

Rusty! said:
If you unlocked, then you know how to use fastboot!
To install the recovery you use
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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ok well what about install a custom ROM such as coindroid and rooting the phone? Do i follow the same steps every time?

Nope, once you've installed recovery, you just enter that and install the ROM/root files.

Ok which recovery would you recommend? I am mostly used to ClockworkMod, but does the touch interface ClockworkMod work for the Sensation 4g?

Yes it does, that's what I use. You can find it here: www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

Rusty! said:
Yes it does, that's what I use. You can find it here: www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
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Ok.
And the code for that would be:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery (what I just downloaded?)

TO OP: Coindroid is an ICS ROM. All ICS roms require updated "ICS" firmware found in HTC's 3.32 software update. Here's the problem, you CAN'T update your firmware (except for stock TMobile versions) because you didn't s-off. HTC bootloader unlock does not give you s-off and only allows for flashing rom, recovery, and in a round about way kernel. You need to update your hboot and radio by updating firmware, which, as i said, you no longer can do. You are now stuck on gingerbread based ROMs until TMobile releases their version of the ICS update next month. If you flash an ICS ROM you will end up in a bootloop.

Behold_this said:
TO OP: Coindroid is an ICS ROM. All ICS roms require updated firmware. Here's the problem, you CAN'T update your firmware because you didn't s-off. HTC bootloader unlock does not give you s-off and only allows for flashing rom, recovery, and in a round about way kernel. You need to update your hboot and radio by updating firmware, which, as i said, you no longer can. You are now stuck on gingerbread until TMobile releases the ICS update next month. If you flash an ICS ROM you will end up in a bootloop.
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hrm. Well if I root can I still get the update from T-Mobile? I want to remove the crap off of my phone. And then would it be wise to still install a recovery?

cashman0712 said:
hrm. Well if I root can I still get the update from T-Mobile? I want to remove the crap off of my phone. And then would it be wise to still install a recovery?
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You would need full stock ROM to successfully install the update via OTA, meaning stock recovery and all system apps present.
**edit** I also added a little more info in my previous post, to give you a clearer understanding of what's happened.

Ok, So I only unlocked the bootloader via htcdev.com. Should I just leave my phone as is until the update then? And did the bootloader unlocker mess up my chances of getting the update?

I honestly don't know how HTC bootloader unlock may or may not effect OTA's, but I will say this, if you don't get the update or if you do and it causes problems with your device, you're on your own. Your warranty has been voided by the HTC unlock method and TMobile will not service the device so you will have to go through HTC which can cost $$$!

Behold_this said:
I honestly don't know how HTC bootloader unlock may or may not effect OTA's, but I will say this, if you don't get the update or if you do and it causes problems with your device, you're on your own. Your warranty has been voided by the HTC unlock method and TMobile will not service the device so you will have to go through HTC which can cost $$$!
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Won't there be a way to update it even if I don't get updated through T-Mobile?
EDIT: Also couldn't I just relock it just in case?

There probably will be. In your case, your best hope is that the official RUU for the TMobile updated software gets leaked and posted. They usually do. Look for it in this thread. Probably won't be available until sometime after it's official release.

Behold_this said:
There probably will be. In your case, your best hope is that the official RUU for the TMobile updated software gets leaked and posted. They usually do. Look for it in this thread. Probably won't be available until sometime after it's official release.
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Ok thanks for the help and tips!

Another quick question. Can't I just flash the GB Stock ROM and then update if I need to?

[Q] Signed ROM possible?

Can I have locked boot loader and be able to flash a custom ROM? It would need to be signed by who, Google, LG?

MAXGEN said:
Can I have locked boot loader and be able to flash a custom ROM? It would need to be signed by who, Google, LG?
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Sure just send it to Google and haven them rebuild and sign it as a factory image (just kidding off course). No, that`s off course not possible.
-Edit- Read the first 4-5 threads in this section before you do anything

MAXGEN said:
Can I have locked boot loader and be able to flash a custom ROM? It would need to be signed by who, Google, LG?
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With a locked bootloader, you cannot flash anything using fastboot.
However, if you unlocked bootloader, installed custom recovery, then relocked bootloader (pointless), you can still install stuff from recovery.
But fastboot cannot be used to flash anything (even stock Google factory image).
You sound like you come from a HTC (or similar) device where you would need to relock bootloader to flash a stock RUU, a Nexus is totally different than a HTC device. :good:
Edit: Be warned that unlocking the bootloader using "fastboot oem unlock" wipes EVERYTHING except the OS on the phone.

Thanks for the quick response.
How do ROM updates (ex. 4.0 to 4.1 ) get pushed from either the manufacturer like LG or Samsung or Google for there devices then? You have to unlock you phone to update? Typically on Samsung I downloaded through TouchWiz and then it restarted on its own and installed on its own without user unlocking anything.
So how do updates then get pushed? They must be signed and get around the lock boot loader some how? I guess the signed ROM is able to unlock it to install is that purpose then?

MAXGEN said:
Thanks for the quick response.
How do ROM updates (ex. 4.0 to 4.1 ) get pushed from either the manufacturer like LG or Samsung or Google for there devices then? You have to unlock you phone to update? Typically on Samsung I downloaded through TouchWiz and then it restarted on its own and installed on its own without user unlocking anything.
So how do updates then get pushed? They must be signed and get around the lock boot loader some how? I guess the signed ROM is able to unlock it to install is that purpose then?
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For Google updates there is no need to be unlocked, you talked about flashing a custom rom. Updates get downloaded and installed automaticaly in fastboot.

MAXGEN said:
So how do updates then get pushed? They must be signed and get around the lock boot loader some how? I guess the signed ROM is able to unlock it to install is that purpose then?
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Flashing /system has nothing to do with the bootloader. OTA updates flash to /system via stock recovery.
A locked bootloader prevents you fastboot flashing. You could unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash a custom recovery then lock the bootloader again. You would still be able to flash /system with custom roms. Bootloader doesn't prevent flashing. It just prevents fastboot flashing
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rootSU said:
Flashing /system has nothing to do with the bootloader. OTA updates flash to /system via stock recovery.
A locked bootloader prevents you fastboot flashing. You could unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash a custom recovery then lock the bootloader again. You would still be able to flash /system with custom roms. Bootloader doesn't prevent flashing. It just prevents fastboot flashing
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What stops custom roms being flash through stock recovery?
What stops custom ROM be a OTA so it can be flash stock recovery?

MAXGEN said:
What stops custom roms being flash through stock recovery?
What stops custom ROM be a OTA so it can be flash stock recovery?
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googles signature

simms22 said:
googles signature
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BK in the house! Anyways.
Just to clear things up for me.
If I keep my stock recovery and keep boot loader lock, then I can't flash my ROM unless I have Google keys. Okay I got that but mentioned earlier that you can flash to the /system, OTA (Over the Air) package, does that have to be signed for that? What is the mechanism to flash OTA, stock recovery or something else?
Ultimately, something like CM is doing, if I make a ROM, I could make my own recovery and with my own keys and call it verified and safe and push OTA packages for updates??

Everything official is signed. Nothing unofficial can be signed. Nothing unsigned can be flashed without either a custom recovery or unlocked bootloader.
Hope this clears everything up for you.
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Could you replace the
/system/etc/security/otacerts.zip
or
/META-INF/com/android/otacert file
with your own??

Lets cut to the chase. What is your ultimate aim here?
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rootSU said:
Lets cut to the chase. What is your ultimate aim here?
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LOL
Just trying to get an direction so I continue to do further research. Mostly my aim is more in depth understanding.
I want to build my own ROM and I'm starting that journey. Definitely a newbie but not a newbie to technology and programing and by no means an expert. Just a senior college student that with enough information to be "dangerous".
I would like to have ROM that doesn't need to have unlock boot loader or have custom recovery? Is that possible? i feel a lot ppl I meet don't like to use Custom ROMs b/c of these hurdles. I guess I would have to have root access to change out the CERTS either way.

You can't even flash a full official rom without unlocking the bootloader. It isn't possible on this device
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MAXGEN said:
LOL
Just trying to get an direction so I continue to do further research. Mostly my aim is more in depth understanding.
I want to build my own ROM and I'm starting that journey. Definitely a newbie but not a newbie to technology and programing and by no means an expert. Just a senior college student that with enough information to be "dangerous".
I would like to have ROM that doesn't need to have unlock boot loader or have custom recovery? Is that possible? i feel a lot ppl I meet don't like to use Custom ROMs b/c of these hurdles. I guess I would have to have root access to change out the CERTS either way.
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I think if it was possible, it would have been done already. But its not that big of a hurdle to unlock and root. Its actually a lot more easier than it seems. It usually takes about 5 minutes to do after getting all the necessary files. All you need is a general understanding and the ability to follow directions well.

You can't even flash a full official rom without unlocking the bootloader. It isn't possible on this device
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No i went right to a custom, unlock, root, custom Recovery, Custom Rom
jsgraphicart said:
I think if it was possible, it would have been done already. But its not that big of a hurdle to unlock and root. Its actually a lot more easier than it seems. It usually takes about 5 minutes to do after getting all the necessary files. All you need is a general understanding and the ability to follow directions well.
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On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
It isn't as easy as you think because more people would have it. I walk into any CS class less then 10% are rooted or Custom. Most of them probably are on iphones but that's different. My point is that you would think some what intelligent geeks would take the time to do so but they don't. IMO there are still hurdles and CM are trying to breach these inconveniences except Google doesn't like it.

MAXGEN said:
No i went right to a custom, unlock, root, custom Recovery, Custom Rom
On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
It isn't as easy as you think because more people would have it. I walk into any CS class less then 10% are rooted or Custom. Most of them probably are on iphones but that's different. My point is that you would think some what intelligent geeks would take the time to do so but they don't. IMO there are still hurdles and CM are trying to breach these inconveniences except Google doesn't like it.
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on samsung, samsung signs the roms, not google. so of course its possible for them.

simms22 said:
on samsung, samsung signs the roms, not google. so of course its possible for them.
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So essentially you just need to replace the certs to push your own OTAs through your device. Which at some point you would need access to those CERTs so you would need root access.

MAXGEN said:
No i went right to a custom, unlock, root, custom Recovery, Custom Rom
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I wasn't asking a question. I was telling you it is not even possible to flash official nexus 5 full rom from Google without unlocking the bootloader.
MAXGEN said:
On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
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As mentioned, because they signed the update and it matched what their rom and their recovery expected.
You cannot simply "guess" a signature. You cannot reverse engineer a signature. All you can do is remove whatever is validating the signature and this cannot be done without unlocking the bootloader
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MAXGEN said:
On Samsung pushed OTA and reboot and install...DONE.
So it is possible!
It isn't as easy as you think because more people would have it. I walk into any CS class less then 10% are rooted or Custom. Most of them probably are on iphones but that's different. My point is that you would think some what intelligent geeks would take the time to do so but they don't. IMO there are still hurdles and CM are trying to breach these inconveniences except Google doesn't like it.
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Are you talking about an OTA from Samsung or a custom ROM OTA without unlocking the phone. If its from Samsung then yeah, they have all the stuff to put into the OTA to bypass the locked bootloader. But anything like that probably has to come from the manufacturer because they are the only ones who have the "keys". I have never owned a Samsung device (other than the Galaxy Nexus but that was more Google). So if I'm just not understanding that, then I apologize. I think around XDA, everyone here just finds it easier to unlock, root and be on their way. But if you find a workaround, I'm sure people would be interested.

[rom] [n960u/u1] [8.1.0 arja] [root for u/u1] [prerooted]

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any screenshot?

Aren't the 960U and the 9600 different?

Please wait for confirmation before flashing this on your N960U/U1 device.

Seeing things like this and getting excited. But poking through the zip it seems this is something you already need a custom recovery to be able to flash anyways sadly

You need a custom recovery installed for this too work..

Will Safestrap work on Note 9?

There is no way to install it with out custom recovery literally unless some one made it where u can flash it with Odin

Clearly the OP has neglected to do basic research on the Snapdragon Note 9. There's absolutely zero information on the firmware version, kernel or any other information about this ROM. In my opinion, this is against forum rules and should be removed for obvious reasons. This is the kind of things we DON'T want the public attempting to flash on the $1,000.00 phone. Most everybody is aware of the locked bootloader and inability to flash custom zips but for somebody to post a flashable zip with no testing whatsoever is just reckless and shouldn't be allowed because people are too trusting and will try to flash it.

RogueList said:
There is no way to install it with out custom recovery literally unless some one made it where u can flash it with Odin
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No Odin you might have to use fastboot commands to flash this. But I am sure it would not work for us..

and why is this not locked down yet?

Is it fake?

There is no way to flash it without custom recovery or fastboot nor do us devices have a unlocked bootloader so it will not work at all unless unless u have a device that has one of the options or all 3

Do we flash this via odin?
I am reading and seeing this may not work? Do we have any confirmation this will work? on the n960u?

vIgGeN7 said:
Do we flash this via odin?
I am reading and seeing this may not work? Do we have any confirmation this will work? on the n960u?
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This will not work at all unless u have a unlocked bootloader witch carrier branded phones don't have.

Has anyone flashed this on their Samsung Galaxy Note 9 sprint version I'm not rooted

RogueList said:
This will not work at all unless u have a unlocked bootloader witch carrier branded phones don't have.
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Right so why are they saying it can be done on a 960u? I just really need root.

This Is Bologna

vIgGeN7 said:
Right so why are they saying it can be done on a 960u? I just really need root.
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It won't work at all snapdragon devices are impossible root/unlock bootloader to run custom roms.

RogueList said:
It won't work at all snapdragon devices are impossible root/unlock bootloader to run custom roms.
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This post should be removed then? As someone stated previously.