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I am brand new to the Android OS and I heard from some friends that rooting is very similar to "jailbreaking" on the iPhone in the sense that you gain a lot of extra features and are able to sideload apps, etc.
I have a few questions before I do my root. Also, I do not want to install Android 2.3 or any other OS on my phone. I want to keep the stock OS, except I want my phone to be rooted (if that works). The guide my friends showed me was this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
1. If I root my phone and then install an HTC or AT&T update, does my root go away (HTC Inspire 4G locked to AT&T).
2. Can I remove the AT&T lock so I can use my phone in Europe if I root?
3. I don't want to brick my phone, so is there anyway to back it up beforehand?
Thanks for the help!
1. It won't let you update so your good.
2. Yes you can it unlocks the phone.
3. Yes its called a Nandroid
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XAviierG said:
1. It won't let you update so your good.
2. Yes you can it unlocks the phone.
3. Yes its called a Nandroid
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Also, is the thread I posted the best method for rooting as of right now, or is there a better one?
ComradeNF said:
Also, is the thread I posted the best method for rooting as of right now, or is there a better one?
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That's how I rooted mines. Very simple
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Just remember backups are your friends
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Just remember backups are your friends
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+1! I learned this the hard way haha.....I went flash crazy once with mods, and one of them went wrong. I hadn't made a backup in almost a week, so I had a lot of work to do to get everything back the way I like it. Now, I religiously do a backup before doing any mod, everytime . Time consuming, yes, but it'll save you A LOT of time if something goes wrong.
yep very true a back up just saved my butt yesterday
Back up is a must..
I hate when I get bricked without a backup....I have to reinstall the rom and set up everything again..
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words can't explain how many times I've been saved with my backup when messng with different flashes, haha. Very important.
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1- rooting is the hardest /most dangerous part(not that its dangerous, but its more dangerous than flashing a rom/kernel simply cause your flashing a radio). Flashing a rom is simple/safe. After you root don't not flash a rom cause you think its dangerous or you'll brick your phone-you wont.
2- I haven't made a nandroid backup ever. If you soft brick your phone, knowing adb is way more important than a backup. I've bricked my phone probably more than everybody in this thread x50, adb saves me everytime. Even if the computer wont see your phone when it boots, 99.9% of the time it will see it when in recovery, so this is what will really save you. Reboot the phone to recovery, use adb to fix whatever broke from the mod/whatever you just did.
(I'm not saying don't make backups, I'm saying learn adb - it can more likely save your ass than anything. Learn it)
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1- rooting is the hardest /most dangerous part(not that its dangerous, but its more dangerous than flashing a rom/radio simply cause your flashing a radio). Flashing a rom is simple/safe. After you root don't not flash a rom cause you think its dangerous or you'll brick your phone-you wont.
2- I haven't made a nandroid backup ever. If you soft brick your phone, knowing adb is way more important than a backup. I've bricked my phone probably more than everybody in this thread x50, adb saves me everytime. Even if the computer wont see your phone when it boots, 99.9% of the time it will see it when in recovery, so this is what will really save you. Reboot the phone to recovery, use adb to fix whatever broke from the mod/whatever you just did.
(I'm not saying don't make backups, I'm saying learn adb - it can more likely save your ass than anything. Learn it)
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Good advice....I need to take the time to do that.....
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This is why I hate 1 click methods. Best way would be to find your stock rom and flash the partitions through fastboot
This should get you going...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061855
You could also use Odin to restore phone back to stock.
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That one is bad ! Seen few people flashing 4G rom bundle on their NS, and haven't seen anyone fixing frequencies problem . Apparently 4G bundles change something that wipe/format can't fix.
Hope there's some manual fix, because more and more people reporting this problem. Someone with dev experience should know where to look, i guess...
The freq fix may be achieved by deleting three files in the efs folder, but you must be very careful. Follow method 2 in the radio thread in the dev section. Make a backup first.
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bedalus said:
The freq fix may be achieved by deleting three files in the efs folder, but you must be very careful. Follow method 2 in the radio thread in the dev section. Make a backup first.
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He would need to get back on the correct rom/radio for his phone........before trying your suggestion
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xnaquada said:
First of all, thank you so much for replying to my post and the help.
A quick Q:
Will trying this thru CWM will fail b/c my phone at the moment thinks its a NS4G when its a NS. (I haven't tried it out of fear of bricking). I ask because I notice CWM will be removed on reboot thus taking away a "safety net" of sorts.
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It may fail. That's why I recommended flashing the individual partitions via fastboot.
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I have rooted my 4.0.4 gs3 Verizon with the VRLG7 baseband. I unlocked the bootloader as well. I have read a ton of stuff on flashing roms and it doesn't seem to all click to me. All I have done is use the command prompt tool to root it and then ez unlock to unlock it. I want to get an AOKP jelly bean rom but I don't know what to do now as far as recovery and all that stuff. I don't have an SD card but I don't care about wiping my phone since I only have a couple apps and my contacts which are stored through my Google account. Anyone care to guide me step by step on what to download to manage roms and what to do from here to get to AOKP?
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Follow one of the three very well written guides in the Dev section. Your next step is a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP), then you'll need to use the guide in the IMEI backup thread to make sure you don't cause yourself a headache, then go into the original development thread and flash away til' your hearts content.
It will help you lots to read all the guides and threads for the roms you're interested in, etc so that you don't panic if something goes wrong. At some point, it's likely you'll soft brick so make sure you understand how to use ODIN in the event you need to get back to where you started, etc. Download files / programs needed, etc. to your computer so they're handy and you have a personal library of things you will need.
PS- having an SD card even if it's just a 1gb or 2gb card will help you big time and make it a bit easier for you.
Does it matter if I didn't use ODIN to originally root my gs3 but will eventually use it if I soft brick?
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Does it matter if I didn't use ODIN to originally root my gs3 but will eventually use it if I soft brick?
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No.
Hello everybody. I need some clearance. My final goal in the Scheme of things is to Back up all my data, install the newest version of Cyanogen Mod, Restore Cyanogen so that i get all my apps and data back, and then eventually restore everything to stock so I can trade in he phone, and then repeat the process with a new phone. Can anybody tell me some of the first things I should do, to nudge me in the right direction?
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Back it up on Google.
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Also, read more. Some of the things you want to do can't be done in the order you want, and restoring a Nandroid from a different device is a great way to brick.
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It's also not a good idea to restore app data (via something like Titanium Backup) between different ROMs.
There's an app called. Scandisk that will b/u your internal sd to your ext sd. User data only I believe.
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There's an app called. Scandisk that will b/u your internal sd to your ext sd. User data only I believe.
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You can also just plug it into a computer and copy it off to your hard drive.
But to the OP, I would heed the warnings about restoring a nandroid backup on a different phone.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of installing a custom ROM only to restore to stock and trade the device in.
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You can also just plug it into a computer and copy it off to your hard drive.
But to the OP, I would heed the warnings about restoring a nandroid backup on a different phone.
I'm not sure I follow the logic of installing a custom ROM only to restore to stock and trade the device in.
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I think the OP wants to get a ROM running on their current phone then Nandroid it and restore the Nandroid on a different phone. Even on the exact same model of phones, restoring a different phone's Nandroid is an excellent way to get yourself a very expensive paperweight.
To clarify my logic, i wanted to turn in my phone in about a year, so I have a year to mess around on Cyanogen Mod, then when my phone contract expires down the way, upgrade my phone.
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Use Google and tibu and you should have everything backed up while you play around with your phone. heed the advice on not updating app data, apps are ok, with Tibu.
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To clarify my logic, i wanted to turn in my phone in about a year, so I have a year to mess around on Cyanogen Mod, then when my phone contract expires down the way, upgrade my phone.
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What provider are you with? I don't know of any that make you trade in old phones.
That said, I would definitely not try restoring a nandroid from one phone to another, even if it's the same model.
Even restoring data from a Titanium Backup would be dicey. The best I'd do would be to restore apps only (or better yet, just download them again on the new phone). It doesn't take that long to set things back up on a new phone.
Restoring Nandroid from one phone to another of the same model is fine. It works on Android phones since the beginning of time, as long as the backup includes only /system, /boot and /data. In that case it's also a non-damaging action, since on Skyrocket, like on HTC phones, there is no Samsung weirdness of holding a recovery in the kernel, but recovery is a separate partition - and you can still boot to recovery, even if you restored a corrupted backup, so no need even for Odin.
I don't restore system data from Tibu period, even if it's just dumping it right back onto the same ROM. I've had too many problems in the past with it corrupting something or another, or causing countless FC's that fixing permissions doesn't solve, requiring a clean wipe and reflash.
I've never had a problem flashing app data, just so long as you go through the list of apps carefully and make sure that absolutely nothing system or stock (including stock email, calendar, browser, etc) is being saved. Restore user apps and user app data ONLY with Tibu and you're pretty safe.
I'm with AT&T. By trade in, I ment selling it back to AT&T for some cash value back. And I can be mistaken, but don't they also place your old sim card into your new phone?
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Yea, they usually use the same SIM. You want to trade it in in a year and you're worrying about this s..t now? You'll probably brick it before then.
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Yeah. Mid January of 2014. That's when. And thanks for the good luck :/
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Yeah. Mid January of 2014. That's when. And thanks for the good luck :/
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So you've got a year to read up and learn how to not brick your phone doing it, then? There are stickies at the top of each forum. Combined, they explain how to do about 95-97% of what the typical XDA user will do with their Skyrocket. Before you can do what you want to do, you have to understand why parts of it are impossible to do in the order you want to do them, and why other parts are risky to the point that you might, if you're not careful, screw up any chance of resale.
Thanks TJ. I'll take you up on that.
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Cleaning up without losing root. Don't say factory reset.lol
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Wanna try be a bit more specific?
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I would like to have the phone like I did when I first rooted it. Without losing root. I don't wanna delete any needed files
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Basically you can't. The best way to do 'clean up' would be to run an RUU and format the sd card (backing up important files first). Yes, running an RUU causes you to lose root, but contrary to popular belief root isn't the most important factor. Your unlocked bootloader (which is far more important) survives the RUU process, which means all you do afterwards is flash TWRP and flash root (or a rooted ROM), and voila.
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Cuz I know on my inspire I can just take the SD card out and format everything without losing root. With the one x,since its all integrated, I can't do that. I'm trying to explain but can't word it right. Hehe
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OK. Ty Tim. U been a good help
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How was your holidays? Mine was hectic lol. How do I go about doing what u suggested?
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Sorry to bother u. But u seem to be the best candidate to help me
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The first thing you want to do is backup anything that's on your sd card that's important to you. Just mount it to your PC and copy important files across. Next is the RUU, but you'll need s-off for this so if you don't already have it, get it now. If you have s-off just download the 3.18 RUU, connect your phone in fastboot mode, and run the RUU exe program in Windows, simple as that. You just need to make sure no other programs are running, make sure HTC Sync Manager is uninstalled (leave drivers installed though), and make sure screen saver/hibernation is turned off. Once the RUU is complete it's just a matter of flashing TWRP recovery again, if you need directions for that just click the How-To Guide For Beginners link in my signature.
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OK. Thanks
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Oops..yea..I am s off
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I even backed up my freshly rooted device a while back. That's what I'm on now
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Ok. All you need to do is what I said before.
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OK. I backed up my stuff. I'm gonna give this a shot soon. Thanks
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I even thought about just deleting those big old back ups to gain some space. That's all I'm really shooting for. But I will heed your advice for the ruu.
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Edit - Deleted..I thought you said Infuse, I see that you said Inspire. Sorry about that...
No problem. U having issue with your device? I had QN infuse butci broke screen by dropping a coffee cup on it. Haha
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No problem. U having issue with your device? I had QN infuse butci broke screen by dropping a coffee cup on it. Haha
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No, I worked on a friend's Infuse and I know a lot about that phone. There are some differences I was going to point out and recommend some things.
Oh. OK.
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You haven't really been clear on what you want. Do yourself and all of us a favor, and just slow down and explain it in a thorough and specific manner, not just 1-2 sentence responses.
A couple different approaches to clean things up:
1) Do you just want to clear up some space in SD storage? Then yes, if you have multiple TWRP backups on the phone, just move them to your computer. You really only need one nandroid on the SD (recent and known good configuration).
There are a lot of other files that can take up a lot of space and potentially be cleaned up "manually". Some examples are ROM zip files (don't need them after you have flashed the ROM), pics and videos, etc. Just copy whatever you want to keep to your computer, and delete them from the SD.
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Cleaning up without losing root. Don't say factory reset.lol
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I'm not sure you know what "factory reset' actually means. Its a bit of a misnomer. All it does is wipe the user data (/data) partition. The current ROM is retained, as is root, bootloader unlock, etc. It also does not touch the "virtual" SD (including your nandroids), although you should back them up to your computer beforehand anyway, just to be safe.
If you want to wipe the phone, but keep the ROM, then a factory reset is exactly what you want (then re-setup the phone, apps, etc.). One approach might be to backup any personal data (nandroid, Titanium backup files, photos) to your computer, then use TWRP to wipe the SD and factory reset, then move your files back to your SD and setup the phone again as you like.
Whatever you do, don't factory reset in bootloader, as a known bug on modded phones means that this will corrupt the SD. So you will not only lose any data on the SD, but also have to reformat it in order to fix the corruption.