I've touched on this question before but I may have been using some wrong terminology.
On my S3 I have successfully created a BT pairing with a BT Audio Device use which has a steroe out fed into my car's head unit's Aux In.
So, it is Auto-Paired. That is, when I step into my car and turn on the ignition thus powering up the BT Audio Device the paring is available to be used for Media Audio.
However, in order for my phone to route audio to the BT Audio Device I must enter the phone's BT menu and tell the phone to connect to the Device for Media Audio.
I can either do this through the notification pane to see pairings then tap the pairing to use for Media Audio or I can go through settings->BT and do the same thing.
Either way, it's a huge PITA to do this every single time I get into my car.
There has got to be a way to have the phone automatically route Media Audio through this BT Audio Device upon detection. My previous two phones had nowhere near the ability of my S3 but they had no issues whatsoever with automatically pairing and routing audio to this BT Audio Device.
Is the S3 really this stunted in the BT department? If so, is there an app that fixes this stupidity with grace and non-intrusiveness?
crabapples said:
I've touched on this question before but I may have been using some wrong terminology.
On my S3 I have successfully created a BT pairing with a BT Audio Device use which has a steroe out fed into my car's head unit's Aux In.
So, it is Auto-Paired. That is, when I step into my car and turn on the ignition thus powering up the BT Audio Device the paring is available to be used for Media Audio.
However, in order for my phone to route audio to the BT Audio Device I must enter the phone's BT menu and tell the phone to connect to the Device for Media Audio.
I can either do this through the notification pane to see pairings then tap the pairing to use for Media Audio or I can go through settings->BT and do the same thing.
Either way, it's a huge PITA to do this every single time I get into my car.
There has got to be a way to have the phone automatically route Media Audio through this BT Audio Device upon detection. My previous two phones had nowhere near the ability of my S3 but they had no issues whatsoever with automatically pairing and routing audio to this BT Audio Device.
Is the S3 really this stunted in the BT department? If so, is there an app that fixes this stupidity with grace and non-intrusiveness?
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I feel ya, in the past, all I had to do was toggle BT on and go, now there's two or three extra steps which almost defeats the use of a toggle.
I just started searching for some answers and am honestly surprised no one else has made a big deal about this. If I find something, I'll post it up... For now, going to take a look at some system files and build.prop stuff, but it's not really my department.
Got some NFC tags and NFC Task Launcher hoping I could circumvent the BS with a hardware hack. But no, the best this does is auto toggle the BT radio and open the device selection screen where 2 more taps are required to actually use the device for media audio. Any new insight out there? Considering Tasker app but it is rather expensive and no free version to see if it does the trick.
My Bluetooth Auto Corrects Just fine to my cars Bluetooth... Toggle on and go. Running AOKP currently but it worked properly on stock, stock rooted, and Synergy as well.
I haven't gotten a chance to try this yet but I probably will tomorrow.
Tasker forum post indicating the problem is well known, prevalent and hardly any fixes exist:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/tasker/bluetooth$20audio/tasker/TLsjT9Exle8/ZLlgvEn5vUUJ
An app that forces the connection amongst other things:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=a2dp.Vol
A Tasker plugin leveraging the force connect code which happens to be GPL'd in case any of our fine developers would like to start making ROMs that address this major drawback of using a S3:
http://code.google.com/p/a2dp-connect/
crabapples said:
I haven't gotten a chance to try this yet but I probably will tomorrow.
Tasker forum post indicating the problem is well known, prevalent and hardly any fixes exist:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/tasker/bluetooth$20audio/tasker/TLsjT9Exle8/ZLlgvEn5vUUJ
An app that forces the connection amongst other things:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=a2dp.Vol
A Tasker plugin leveraging the force connect code which happens to be GPL'd in case any of our fine developers would like to start making ROMs that address this major drawback of using a S3:
http://code.google.com/p/a2dp-connect/
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I haven't had any trouble with bluetooth devices reconnecting to my phone as soon as I power them on. I'm running cyanogenmod 10 rom.
Also you can get free trial of tasker from here tasker.dinglisch.net/download.html
zxsix said:
I haven't had any trouble with bluetooth devices reconnecting to my phone as soon as I power them on. I'm running cyanogenmod 10 rom.
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It seems the issue may be primarily with BT Audio Gateways. I don't have this issue with my laptop at all and I'm imagining car head units rarely see this problem.
That said A2DP Volume App fixed this issue for me. Once configured I did have to manually set the device to use media audio one last time before A2DP Volume started doing it for me. I configured NFC Task Launcher to kill wifi, enable BT and launch A2DP volume when it contacts the tag in my car and it works perfectly. Since NFC Task Launcher front ends into Tasker and Tasker has the A2DP force connect plugin available I'm seriously considering getting Tasker for all the other cool features it can do besides scratching this particular itch.
crabapples said:
I've touched on this question before but I may have been using some wrong terminology.
On my S3 I have successfully created a BT pairing with a BT Audio Device use which has a steroe out fed into my car's head unit's Aux In.
So, it is Auto-Paired. That is, when I step into my car and turn on the ignition thus powering up the BT Audio Device the paring is available to be used for Media Audio.
However, in order for my phone to route audio to the BT Audio Device I must enter the phone's BT menu and tell the phone to connect to the Device for Media Audio.
I can either do this through the notification pane to see pairings then tap the pairing to use for Media Audio or I can go through settings->BT and do the same thing.
Either way, it's a huge PITA to do this every single time I get into my car.
There has got to be a way to have the phone automatically route Media Audio through this BT Audio Device upon detection. My previous two phones had nowhere near the ability of my S3 but they had no issues whatsoever with automatically pairing and routing audio to this BT Audio Device.
Is the S3 really this stunted in the BT department? If so, is there an app that fixes this stupidity with grace and non-intrusiveness?
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You can fix this relatively easy by getting the app Tasker. I use it to do things like automatically start the music player I want when headphones are plugged in, to turning up the brightness automatically when I am getting an incoming call, etc. I am fairly certain you could set up the program to do whatever you want via bluetooth if you fiddle with it.
Gluck!
mdt73 said:
You can fix this relatively easy by getting the app Tasker. I use it to do things like automatically start the music player I want when headphones are plugged in, to turning up the brightness automatically when I am getting an incoming call, etc. I am fairly certain you could set up the program to do whatever you want via bluetooth if you fiddle with it.
Gluck!
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LOL, if you had only read the rest of the thread...
Yeah, Tasker cannot do this OTB but with the A2DP Connect Plugin it can. Or you can just run the A2DP Volume app and do the same for free.
That the A2DP Connect code is GPL it would be super sweet if our developers incorporated the magic into the ROMs so that a base install didn't need apps to do something so simple as automatically route media audio to BT gateways.
This happens to me when I use the wrong settings in my cars head unit. My Toyota gives me the option to pair as a multimedia device, a phone or both. If you set it up as just a multimedia device then you won't have some functionality. Check your head unit manual and try to re-pair. You might have to delete the existing pairing for it to work right.
rfmodeler said:
This happens to me when I use the wrong settings in my cars head unit. My Toyota gives me the option to pair as a multimedia device, a phone or both. If you set it up as just a multimedia device then you won't have some functionality. Check your head unit manual and try to re-pair. You might have to delete the existing pairing for it to work right.
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Yeah, it's not a head unit, it's an audio gateway that basically is just a BT receiver with a stereo out and no interface so it is what it is with no configuration options. This issue with the S3 appears to be primarily related to these types of devices.
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Yeah, it's not a head unit, it's an audio gateway that basically is just a BT receiver with a stereo out and no interface so it is what it is with no configuration options. This issue with the S3 appears to be primarily related to these types of devices.
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Oh okay. When I look under the bluetooth menu in CM10 I have a paired connection that I named Car Multi-Media and if I look at its settings I see profiles called Phone audio and Media audio. I'm guessing you just have a Media audio profile. Not sure how to help you there. Sorry.
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Hi! I have a brand new Jabra 620s bluetooth-headset. When I turn the headset on and search for bluetooth devices on my computer I can see it, but I cant see it when I search for it on my touch pro.
What could be the problem here?
I had a similar problem last night (and have it quite often when i need to pair). It doesn't detect it until the 3rd or 4th time in which last night it didn't even detect it either. I power cycled the headset and my phone found it the first time.
Yeah, I tried rebooting my headset and my phone several times, but I still can't get it to work...
Figured it out... Had to hold in a button on the headsett to make it avaliable for new devices...
But new problem:
I don't get sound in the headsett when I play music. But when I make a call the sound is in the headsett. What could be the problem here?
Maybe its the settings in your a2dp profile?
I read this "Set-up of the 620's was simple enough, the headset unit is paired with the device that is streaming the music and / or a mobile phone. A smart move from Jabra allows the 620s to be connected to both a mobile phone and an audio device simultaneously. However our set-up was rather more straight forward than most as we used Jabra's own Bluetooth dongle that supports the all important A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) profile. Real life for most users is a different kettle of fish with support for A2DP being quite sparse, most music gateways and servers and even music ready mobiles rarely support the required profile." source: http://www.lordpercy.com/jabra_bt620s_review.htm
Maybe some tweaking in hklm\\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\Settings
I believe this headset also supports AVRCP profile. In any case, make note of your original configuration prior to making any changes.
nyckid211 said:
Maybe its the settings in your a2dp profile?
I read this "Set-up of the 620's was simple enough, the headset unit is paired with the device that is streaming the music and / or a mobile phone. A smart move from Jabra allows the 620s to be connected to both a mobile phone and an audio device simultaneously. However our set-up was rather more straight forward than most as we used Jabra's own Bluetooth dongle that supports the all important A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) profile. Real life for most users is a different kettle of fish with support for A2DP being quite sparse, most music gateways and servers and even music ready mobiles rarely support the required profile." source: http://www.lordpercy.com/jabra_bt620s_review.htm
Maybe some tweaking in hklm\\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\Settings
I believe this headset also supports AVRCP profile. In any case, make note of your original configuration prior to making any changes.
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I tried to install btAudio. Now I have sound in my headset, but det sound-quality is CRAPPY! Are there any other software avaliable that can fix this? Dont know if I want to edit the registry.... There must be a solution?
slogum said:
I tried to install btAudio. Now I have sound in my headset, but det sound-quality is CRAPPY! Are there any other software avaliable that can fix this? Dont know if I want to edit the registry.... There must be a solution?
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You can use Advanced Config to enlarge the bluetooth bitpool under the bluetooth tweaks. Set it to "very high" for best sound quality (uses more system resources tough).
HTH
Maximum bit-pool setting is 1561. I dont think it solves the problem, cause the quality is still really bad.
Any other tips? Or do I have to return the headset cause a brand new ~1000$ phone cant play on a wireless bluetooth headset?!
Bump.. Are there really no solutions?
This application is a hotfix for a really annoying (and potentially unsafe!) bug in the Epic4G:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11372
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...audio-routing-on-epic-4g/msg115990/#msg115990
The long and sort of it is that when anything is plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, the phone will only play call audio over that jack.
In order to route the audio through the earpiece, bluetooth or speakerphone, you must pull the plug out of the jack. This is at the very least annoying, and at the very worst potentially dangerous if, for example, you're driving.
How-To
Download the APK attached below for your android version.
Install like any other APK using adb or your favorite file manager.
What it does
This simple application allows you to pick the audio device to use for call audio to override this behavior, and can be changed on the fly.
All in-call audio will be routed to the device you specify when something is plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack. If nothing is in the jack, the default behavior for the phone applies.
This also allows you to use the Speaker Phone when the headphone jack is occupied, even though the button on the call screen is disabled!
Your configuration should persist between reboots.
What it doesn't do
This app does not route any other type of audio. Your music, notifications, etc will still play over the headphone jack or phone speaker.
Again, this *only* affects in-call voice audio, and only when something is plugged into the headphone jack.
Notes
This app completely overrides the options on the call page! If you want to switch outputs during a call, you will have to do it from this app - your call will not be dropped when changing the output device.
In order to route the call audio properly, the system's mediaserver service must be restarted, however.
This means that any other audio you have playing when you apply the change will be disrupted, and related services may force close. For example, Pandora will skip to the next song. Other applications may not behave that well.
Disclaimer
This app modifies files in the /system partition, so use this at your own risk! I am not responsible for any problems that arise from this hotfix on your device!
This is currently for the EPIC4G *ONLY* - Do not use this on any other device. Please contact me if you have a different phone which experiences this bug and I will see if I can get it working for you as well.
This is *BETA* software, a work in progress, please post here if you experience any issues, but I cannot guarantee it will work for you!
ROM DEVs, feel free to bake this into your roms in whole or part, I encourage it as this provides a workaround for a safety issue, but please give credit if you use or derive from this application.
Special thanks to UberPinguin - his initiative, debugging, code-diving and testing helped make this happen every step of the way!
Many, many thanks to everyone in #samsung-epic for helping me test and work this out.
Be sure to download the APK for the right android version on your phone!
epicBT - v0.3.5 (Froyo)
* Fixed crash/reboot when applying settings in DK17 roms
epicBT - v0.3
* Layout cleanup when root is unavailable
epicBT - v0.2
* Requires root!
* Superuser compatible
* auto-remounts /system RW if necessary
* Sends call audio to wired device ( default ), speaker phone, or bluetooth
Sources
https://github.com/cicada/epicBT
If this works as described above I will be so f-ing happy. One of my biggest gripes, solved.
No sh#t! I was just about to start searching the Market for an app like this! Downloading now to test.
Thank you!
bigdbag said:
If this works as described above I will be so f-ing happy. One of my biggest gripes, solved.
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First of all,...Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for working on this... This was one of my biggest gripes with this phone and I couldn't understand why the "geniuses" at Samsung/Sprint couldn't get this right.
I've done some extensive testing in my car for the Eclair version and wanted to share my results:
For the most part, the app does what it's supposed to...but I did notice that:
1) the "on the fly" feature doesn't work so well. That is, when changing from one mode to the other, I had to reboot the phone to get the new setting to take effect. This feature would be great with an app like Tasker, which could automatically open up the app and ask you which setting you want to use when a headset/aux jack is plugged in,...thus giving you the flexibility to use the best option depending on your situation. Is there a way to tweak the app to recognize the switch without rebooting by resetting something like the mediashare service?
2) For some reason, the mic volume (volume heard on the opposite end of call) on the bluetooth setting is lower when the headset/aux jack is plugged in. I'm not sure whether the regular phone mic, speaker phone mic, or the bluetooth mic is utilized in this setting, but the volume is definitely harder to hear on the other end than when the headset jack is unplugged. I would guess about 20-25% lower. I tested this effect during the call as well by plugging and unplugging the jack while counting 1 to 10 and it's the same. Is there away to increase the sensitivity of the bluetooth mic when the headset jack is plugged in?
Donation coming if you can get this working! Thanks again.
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1) the "on the fly" feature doesn't work so well. That is, when changing from one mode to the other, I had to reboot the phone to get the new setting to take effect.
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Strange, it works well for me - it takes a second to switch outputs while mediaserver is restarting, but never had to reboot. I'll look into this, may have accidentally tweaked something in the last build.
UberPinguin and I are still looking at the sources to find a better fix that works the way it's supposed to - the trouble seems to be that Phone.apk is actually selecting the 'correct' source and setting options appropriately, but the underlying OS isn't switching outputs. Restarting mediaserver was the only workaround I could find for this.
sinman02 said:
2) For some reason, the mic volume (volume heard on the opposite end of call) on the bluetooth setting is lower when the headset/aux jack is plugged in. I'm not sure whether the regular phone mic, speaker phone mic, or the bluetooth mic is utilized in this setting, but the volume is definitely harder to hear on the other end than when the headset jack is unplugged. I would guess about 20-25% lower. I tested this effect during the call as well by plugging and unplugging the jack while counting 1 to 10 and it's the same. Is there away to increase the sensitivity of the bluetooth mic when the headset jack is plugged in?
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I hadn't noticed any volume issues but truthfully I haven't been using the BT often because of this bug - I've just been letting my calls go to VM instead of crashing my car Volume selection should be working properly so I'll see if I can add something to select volume as well.
To be clear on the MIC, input should always be the proper input for whichever mode you choose - phone MIC for speakerphone and BT mic for BT HP/HS.
If you're on stock then the phone mic should be used when your wired device doesn't have it's own, however this is broken in all of our custom community kernels - Wired Headset mode should only be used when you actually have a wired headset with a MIC of it's own if you're using one of these, otherwise the phone doesn't enable any MIC at all.
I should note, that all my tests were conducted on outgoing phone calls. I don't know if incoming calls are any different. I am using the Syndicate rom.
If you can get the bluetooth volume issue resolved, I'll likely leave it there, but it would be nice to be able to switch on the fly to speakerphone mode when bluetooth isn't handy.
Question: Does the froyo version have the same implementation?
Please keep up the good work!
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sinman02 said:
Question: Does the froyo version have the same implementation?
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Yes, the froyo version is the same - Samsung used a different asound.conf in froyo ( added in some interesting VOIP pcm ), so this is the only difference between versions currently.
cicada said:
This application is a hotfix for a really annoying (and potentially unsafe!) bug in the Epic4G:
The long and sort of it is that when anything is plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, the phone will only play call audio over that jack.
In order to route the audio through the earpiece, bluetooth or speakerphone, you must pull the plug out of the jack. This is at the very least annoying, and at the very worst potentially dangerous if, for example, you're driving.
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...So this should work on for Sip/VOIP apps like Sipdroid, 3CX, and Fring? I managed to pick up 3CX and Sipdroid through my bluetooth headset but no mic...meaning the other end could not hear me... There aren't that many good sip/voip soft wares out there for the Android today.. I rated Fring the BEST but with no bluetooth support.
EDIT: Nevermind... I read the post again.. I don't think this will do the job other than support for the actual phone.. but it would be nice to have that option for sip/voip as well.
The SIP/VoIP stuff may work better in Froyo considering there are dedicated PCM devices listed in the asound.conf - however I've never used any of these applications, so this is pure speculation.
You're correct, this does only effect in-call phone audio, those applications would be handling (or in this case, not) the bluetooth audio routing directly. I've found lots of other similar quirks with BT on the Epic4G, such as the << and >> buttons on my A2DP headphones not working.
cicada said:
The SIP/VoIP stuff may work better in Froyo considering there are dedicated PCM devices listed in the asound.conf - however I've never used any of these applications, so this is pure speculation.
You're correct, this does only effect in-call phone audio, those applications would be handling (or in this case, not) the bluetooth audio routing directly. I've found lots of other similar quirks with BT on the Epic4G, such as the << and >> buttons on my A2DP headphones not working.
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I am using Froyo the DJ29 Build on the epic... Dare I try?
****ing yea! Thanks, downloading now. This has been my biggest complaint with the phone
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Hell Yea! You rock! I Threw out a fairly long search sentence in google and actually found your post here. No sooner did I install and set it up that my phone rang while plugged into the car audio and FINALLY I can use my friggin BT headset without yelling hold on hold on I gotta unplug the stereo cable. This has really peeved me off since I got the phone. Now what I don't get is why this obvious flaw has been ignored by Samsung and Sprint. Nice job on making it work like it should. BTW running stock 2.1 with root. No bugs so far.
THANK GOD. someone fixed this. bugged me so much in the car when i'm receiving a call. will report any bugs.
bump, updated to fix crash in DK17 based roms
cicada said:
I hadn't noticed any volume issues but truthfully I haven't been using the BT often because of this bug - I've just been letting my calls go to VM instead of crashing my car Volume selection should be working properly so I'll see if I can add something to select volume as well.
To be clear on the MIC, input should always be the proper input for whichever mode you choose - phone MIC for speakerphone and BT mic for BT HP/HS.
If you're on stock then the phone mic should be used when your wired device doesn't have it's own, however this is broken in all of our custom community kernels - Wired Headset mode should only be used when you actually have a wired headset with a MIC of it's own if you're using one of these, otherwise the phone doesn't enable any MIC at all.
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As others, I'm very grateful for this fix. After trying it out, if it works for me, donation on the way.
Regarding the MIC: My experience, all the way back to pure stock (IIRC) is that there is no MIC at all when a two-channel, stereo plug is inserted (headphones, cassette adapter, etc.). Every time I've been driving, listening to something via the headset jack, when a call comes in I can hear the other party, but they can't hear me at all until I unplug from the jack. So, even though there was no mic plugged in and the device was correctly sending 2-channel audio out through the jack (usually to a cass adapter, so I can listen via my car stereo), but doesn't "do the right thing" with the mic, even though the hardware and drivers are capable of detecting the absence of the mic.
It should, of course, default to the BT mic if there is a BT connection, or the built-in mic otherwise. For some reason this simple flow-diagram logic eludes Samsung.
So I got my first experience with this today...worked great. I was streaming Pandora, phone call came in, music was paused and I answered the call. Once I finished the call, the music continued playing. Minor detail, but since I was on WiFi, is there anyway that the music could have kept on playing while I was still on the call for the sake of my guys who were still working while I was taking the call? It's great that the music paused and resumed by itself, but it would have been cooler to have it keep going while I was on the call.
m5james said:
.. is there anyway that the music could have kept on playing while I was still on the call .. ?
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Unfortunately Pandora's phone-state listeners control that, it'd have to be modified or their devs would have to add options for it. Would be cool though, I agree
I've got a hacked version of Pandora that allows unlimited skips, I'll have to ask the guy who did it to see if they can tweak that as well. Come to think of it, it'd be nice to have it keep going for the times I'm driving down the road as well so whoevers in the car doesn't have to sit there and listen to me blah blah blah.
I've searched around on the forums for an answer to this but could never find anything that seems to match up to my issue.
I have a A2DP enabled headset and want to use it with apps such as Team Speak 3 beta, Vent, and other apps. But for some reason although phone media happily plays over onto my headset. My phone continues to only use the mic built into the phone instead of the bluetooth headset mic.
Any apps designed to use the headset specifically work (ie. normal phone calls, skype, vlingo) but otherwise apps ignore the headset mic.
I already tried using apps like BT Mono and Super BT Mono Froyo but they seem to only pipe audio to the headset, but don't do anything at all with the headset mic.
Does anybody know how to get the headset mic to be selected by apps instead of just the built-in mic?
My device is a Sumsung Galaxy S II ( I9100 ). Both Stock and CyanogenMod Gingerbread
good good good
Still hoping someone may know how to get the Galaxy S II phone to use a bluetooth headset mic instead of the built-in mic on the phone.
I'm really stumped on how to do this.
I still haven't seemed to have any luck finding a way to forcefully map apps to use the headset mic. I'm beginning to wounder if it's possible with the Android OS.
I have the galaxy s2 as well and I've retired several different things and have been unsuccessful with anything I've tried so far... Really difficult to drive and use vent without a headset.
Yeah I'm wanting to do the same thing.. I don't spose you've found a way in the last couple of months? Surely it can be done - may need to get a dev to write something for it though..
Sorry Lilfellabob, still no luck. I find it odd it's so difficulty to remap audio settings.
Even in Ice Cream Sandwich I can't find a way.
The app would need to be written to accept it. Its not a matter of your phone. Its the apps. Think about it for a min. If it works on apps made to use it but another app doesn't work then where does the problem lay?
The thing is, typically other apps should be able to re-route the app to use the headset mic. Alike how there are apps that can force other apps to use bluetooth audio instead of the phone speaker, even if the phone/headset can't use a2dp.
Dav_Edward said:
The thing is, typically other apps should be able to re-route the app to use the headset mic. Alike how there are apps that can force other apps to use bluetooth audio instead of the phone speaker, even if the phone/headset can't use a2dp.
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Only if the code is there for it to do it. If they don't code it in then it doesn't work.
I'm having a similar problem but slightly the opposite.
I pair my phone to a Bluetooth device that lets me hear phone output on my car's speakers. However, the phone tries to use Bluetooth for the microphone when none exists. I want to force it to use the on-phone microphone. I can talk and talk but no one can hear me, unless I set the phone output to speaker or handset, which implies setting the phone input to amplified built-in mic, or just built-in mic, respectively.
In the Bluetooth settings I can set to use the Bluetooth device for music or phone, but ideally I would want "Phone" to be separated into "Phone output" and "Phone input" so I could uncheck input (and thus use the built-in mic.) This should be implemented at the Android level so that the setting can apply to all apps.
The same problem occured when I wired (2-stripe phone-to-car audio only, no mic) my Palm Pre directly to my car. I just tried with my GNex and it was smart enough to use the built-in mic when a microphone-less plug was connected.
zelendel said:
Only if the code is there for it to do it. If they don't code it in then it doesn't work.
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wrong. its in the kernel. the new firmware on the android is is capable to transmit Audio Steam to Headset device as Audio only. i wont go 100% against coding to force it to but if they wanted to theres have to be some kind of exploit to do so. lets say if skype were to find that exploit or code it, it would be probably violate android policy.
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wrong. its in the kernel. the new firmware on the android is is capable to transmit Audio Steam to Headset device as Audio only. i wont go 100% against coding to force it to but if they wanted to theres have to be some kind of exploit to do so. lets say if skype were to find that exploit or code it, it would be probably violate android policy.
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Actually, what's going on is Skype is using the 'bluetooth device' hook of some sort, just like other apps that support piping audio to the bluetooth headset. However most apps don't use the bluetooth device API/hook and just dumbly send their audio to 'default output device' and 'default input device' blindly and let the OS or Kernel decide where to send it.
The OS or Kernel when it senses a bluetooth device with the 'media' profile on it is present, it changes the default output device to the headset, but it doesn't seem to bother doing the same for the bluetooth mic for the default input device.
Because apps like Teamspeak 3 just blindly use default audio device because it doesn't use bluetooth APIs in the app itself, I have no way to make it use the headset mic.
I wish someone could make a mod or app that will allow mapping the default input to a bluetooth mic when present.
As far as I know, Skype has problems using the BT mike as well. In fact, they took a user survey regarding the issue for android and iOS users. However, I cannot find the results of that survey / study, and Skype recommendations thereof.
User choice to use BT mike seems so BASIC to me, I wonder how it was overlooked...!
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Dav_Edward said:
Sorry Lilfellabob, still no luck. I find it odd it's so difficulty to remap audio settings.
Even in Ice Cream Sandwich I can't find a way.
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The app would need to be written to accept it. Its not a matter of your phone. Its the apps. Think about it for a min. If it works on apps made to use it but another app doesn't work then where does the problem lay?
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Rooting the device would give apps or the user permissions to modify system audio controller's (idk if it is anything like ALSA or anything..) settings to make app use the audio channel for the bluetooth headset... an example for the Galaxy s2 i9100 i have is the radio app "Sprit FM" has a "volume control stream" setting which allows the user to select what volume "control" will control the volume of the app's audio output
anywho... i hope it helps a little
rwong48, I have now the same problem that you have described. Have you solved it with any app for Andorid?
Thanks!
Solution
I found an app that solves this problem on android devices, it's called btmono and you can find it in the Google store. I tried to post the link but I don't have enough posts under my belt...
Anyways, pair your device, open the program (such as ts3), connect to your server and then turn on btmono. Voila!
Well, I tried to delete this after I saw that you had already tried btmono, but I couldn't figure out how so just disregard this message.
I already tried btmono, sadly although it works for the output audio, it does *not* work with the headset mic. Programs like TS3 will still keep using the phone's built-in mic, not the headset mine despite using btmono. The only thing btmono does is pipe the output audio to the headset only.
Thanks for the suggestion though
I can't believe they haven't fixed that yet. It is so basic...
Hey guys I'm going through the same issues with my note 2. Svoice was the only one that works but its painfully slow and inaccurate.
Anyways I've tried utter! robin and aivc. Aivc works pretty good but at least it uses the mic.
Utter is really promising but no Bluetooth mic. The devs have acknowledged it though. So hopefully soon.
Update: AIVC has one downfall. The app can't open if the screen is locked like utter and svoice can when prompted from bluetooth. Also, it only listens automatically the first time. If you close it without killing the app, you'll have to press the mic icon manually every time (which takes away from the purpose of handsfree).
An amazing One click - Connect 2 Specific Bluetooth device for A2DP and Phone app:
Bluetooth Pair
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gnssoftworks.bluetoothpair
found it very useful for swapping bluetooth headphones between devices WITHOUT turning off Bluetooth entirely or going into the settings menu.
Example Use Case:
I have one Stereo Bluetooth headset with mic (two profiles - phone and A2DP audio)
I have one Android Phone and one Android Tablet.
Phone Profile is always connected to the Android Phone, but the A2DP audio changes depending on which device you want to listen to music from.
Normally, if you want to listen to audio from the Tablet when your headset's A2DP profile is connected to the phone, you'd have to first go to the settings menu of the phone, and disconnect the A2DP, leaving Phone Profile connected. Then go to the settings menu on your tablet and connect the A2DP only.
Then you'd have to do the opposite if you want to listen to audio from the Phone again.
Takes a long time.
With Bluetooth Pair, you can specifically connect or disconnect to a specific device and specific profile (phone / a2dp) by widgets.
So you won't have to turn off the bluetooth completely on one device just to allow your headset to connect another device. Nor do you need to go into settings anymore.
1.) Just tap on the A2DP device specific widget on the phone to disconnect, the A2DP Profile from the phone
2.) go to the Tablet, and tap on the A2DP device specific widget to connect the A2DP profile of the headset to the Tablet
Two taps!
Would you mind sharing a code snippet on how you achieve this? I've been working on a little program that I intend to use around the house and this is the missing piece that I can't figure out. Basically, I have some NFC tags spread around the house and a receiver app that triggers various actions. One of them enables bluetooth on my device (if off), turns on my home audio receiver (over telnet), connects to the receiver's A2DP device (this is the missing piece), and launches a music app.
I've seen examples where this works using an AIDL method, but from what I've gathered this no longer works under Android 4.2. Does your app work on 4.2? Any hints you can provide?
Thanks!
Brian
I'm not the writer of this app.
You could try contacting them via the email listed on Google Play.
BTW, while you're making your app, please dedicate a thread to it on XDA so we can all beta test and buy it later!
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I'm not the writer of this app.
You could try contacting them via the email listed on Google Play.
BTW, while you're making your app, please dedicate a thread to it on XDA so we can all beta test and buy it later!
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Oh, OK. I just assumed this was your app.
After reading the Play Store description more carefully, I don't think this app actually does what I'm trying to do (programmatically establish an A2DP connection). It appears this app enables / disables certain profiles but the actual connection is still handled by the OS.
As far as the app I'm making, I was intending it to just be something for personal use. I'm planning on keeping it very lightweight and tailored specifically to my needs. For it to be used by anyone else they would have to have the same brand of A/V receiver as me (Pioneer) that supports the same telnet commands. Most of the rest of the functionality of the app can be duplicated by using some of the existing NFC apps like NFC Task Launcher. If I ever develop it into something interesting that could be used by a wider audience I probably will post it on XDA for feedback though.
When I bought Gear 2 Neo a week and a half ago, I immediately faced the following issue: how the hell I keep using my Bluetooth earpiece for conducting phone calls? As cool as it looks talking to the Gear, it's not as convenient as wearing an earpiece, and I've been using those for the last 12 years. This new annoyance combined with an old one: when I'm in the car, I want my phone to automatically switch to the car in-built Bluetooth audio, both for phone calls and for media. I don't want to do this manually! And now, with the Gear, just think of the possibility of talking to the watch while driving the car!
Now, the Samsung phone owners have the luxury of being able to switch to the earpiece after picking up the call on the Gear. Not ideal, but workable. Still puzzles me though if you're able to choose a specific Bluetooth phone audio device if you have more than one (e.g. as with the earpiece and the car example). But we, the non-Samsung owners, don't even have this option. So finding a solution was due!
So, here are my use cases:
When I'm not in the car, I'd like the phone to be connected to the Gear all the time while not in the call. This makes sure I get all the notifications etc.
When not in the car and I'm engaged in a call, I'd like Bluetooth phone audio to switch to my earpiece as soon as possible. This automatically disconnects the Gear, meaning I'm no longer able to receive notifications on it. But this is not an issue, as, when I'm on the phone, I prefer not to be distracted anyway. At the end of the call I want Bluetooth audio to reconnect back to the Gear.
When I'm in the car, I'd like my phone to connect to the built-in Bluetooth phone and audio. I would like to stay it like this for as long as my car audio system is on. This means I won't receive any notifications on the Gear, but I reckon this is rather good while driving. When my car audio is off, I'd like the phone to automatically reconnect back to the Gear.
There are two pieces of software that helped me with achieving this:
Tasker. It's not free, but is worth every cent you spend on it. What's more, you can download a 7-day free trial to play with this guide before you commit to buying it.
Secure settings. All the functionality you need for this guide is included in the free version.
My triggers are:
Phone ringing or off hook and not in the car: connect to the earpiece
Phone idle and not in the car: connect to the Gear
Car application is launched (happens automatically when I plug my HTC One M8 into its car holder): toggle car mode on, which, in turn, connects to the car Bluetooth
Power disconnected (which is what happens when I turn car engine off or pull the phone from the car holder) and the car mode was on: toggle car mode off
Car mode switched off: connect to the Gear
Device boot: connect to the Gear
Now, you can import the attached file into Tasker on your phone and give it a go. You will need to go and replace the device MAC addresses and names with YOUR devices first (in Secure Settings configuration for each and every relevant task).
If you don't have in-car Bluetooth, just disable the corresponding profiles.
Now, there are some things that need improvement:
Right now I can't answer the calls on the Gear even if I want (e.g. if I forgot my earpiece at home or if it's out of battery). The reason for this is the way Secure Settings plugin performs BT Connect action: it disconnects the currently connected device first and only then tries connecting the other device. Also, there is no way to figure out if this connection was successful or not. I'm thinking of implementing a special toggle that will disable automatic earpiece connection on user request.
One scenario that is not properly implemented yet is switching from in-car BT to the earpiece while in the call (e.g. when you arrive at your destination while talking on the phone and want to live the car without disconnecting the call). Right now this requires manual intervention.
Unfortunately, Bluetooth connectivity of many devices is still quite buggy. I often find that, despite the fact the phone shows it's connected to the device, the audio is not going through. Or the device doesn't think it's connected (both happen quite often with my in-car BT). Usually, what helps in this situations is resetting Bluetooth on the phone or on the device or on both. I'm thinking of adding BT off/on action before any device switch just to improve reliability. However, sometimes the device needs to be reset, which may be easy (e.g. turning the earpiece off and on) or not (you can't turn the in-car BT off without stopping the engine).
That's all for now. Feedback is appreciated!
Great add thank you!
Y
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I'm having difficulty opening your file below. Do you open it using tasked, open via file explorer and edit or open via service manager. I also have the m8 and appreciate all the work you've done. I'm fairly new to tasked so figured it would be easier to change your file and then load it.
kartch said:
I'm having difficulty opening your file below. Do you open it using tasked, open via file explorer and edit or open via service manager. I also have the m8 and appreciate all the work you've done. I'm fairly new to tasked so figured it would be easier to change your file and then load it.
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I have appradio 2. Is there a way to modify this to always disconnect the gear and connect the car radio when I plug in USB from the radio?
You can also accomplish all this with LLama profiles which is a free application
I ended up making my own. Was better as now I have some working knowledge of tasker and secure settings. I dont have Bluetooth in my car so was a little easier.
One thing I did add was a 5 second wait/delay so I can still look at who is calling on the watch, decide if i want to answer or reject from the watch and then if I do answer it automatically disconnects the Gear and allows you to talk through the phone or earpiece.
Thats my only addition as it maintains some function of the watch to allow screening of calls without pulling phone from pocket.
There is a bluetooth setting if you'll only use it for media or phone calls or both )
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There is a bluetooth setting if you'll only use it for media or phone calls or both )
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How exactly this helps (or is even related to) the issue at hand?
mpogr said:
How exactly this helps (or is even related to) the issue at hand?
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because instead of disconnecting and reconnecting your watch you can leave it on and choose another device for voice calls and or notifications
mjpineda94 said:
because instead of disconnecting and reconnecting your watch you can leave it on and choose another device for voice calls and or notifications
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The problem is the phone can have only one device connected to it using phone headset profile and it won't use any other profile (e.g. multimedia) for making calls.
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Thanks ! Help me alot!
Nc
I need some resolve to me after the call is automatically disconnected BT Handset Gear2 but have remained constantly connected. Do with Timo anyone have experience? Thank you.
I solved this by using an nfc tag as a switcher! I bought an Nfc tag for just 25cents and I wrote on it with the free app Trigger... When I get in the car I swipe the phone on the nfc tag and it connects to the car BT and when I swipe the phone again it switches back to the gear!
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mjpineda94 said:
There is a bluetooth setting if you'll only use it for media or phone calls or both )
Just sayin
Proud to Be PINOY
Follow us on twitter @BuhayKolehiyo and @pinoulyKaKung
Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
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How do you get to that setting? The only option (I have it connected to an M8) is phone audio
longshot201 said:
How do you get to that setting? The only option (I have it connected to an M8) is phone audio
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It doesnt work
you need NFC , Task or Llama
NRGZ28 said:
You can also accomplish all this with LLama profiles which is a free application
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Hi,
I'm trying with Llama, can you give me some help?
I add a new condition "ringing", but I don't understand the related action. Per my understanding I need to disconnect the GEAR, but I cannot find the specific action.
Ok, I understand that is needed Secure Setttings, but I still not able to do what I need: when the action is executed, I need to disconnect gear...
Ok, now everything is OK.
Just to clarify for who is not able to import che xml for Tasker or just want to use Llama that is free.
It is necessary to install "Secure Settings" and to create a Local Plugin Action, involving Secure Settings.
In Secure Settings, selecting the BT connect/disconnect action, it is possible to select from a list of paired device on which of them perform the "connect/disconnect" action
Thanks a lot.