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I know that typically a few "Google Experience" devices come out each year. But, has there been any speculation on what the next major Google phone will be... as in the Nexus S sequel. (I am aware this hasn't been out that long, but it isn't in the cards to upgrade now, so I'm looking to the future )
I'm hoping it's a Nexus device either from HTC or Motorola - however with this 'own Motorola OS' rumour swirling around, that's looking unlikely, currently. But if the HTC Pyramid is a Nexus device, that'll be my next phone. Period. It'll be my next phone even if it isn't
Ya, I'm using an Atrix right now, and while I know it gets a lot of hate, I love the power. It's a great phone in terms of speed and potential. And, in spite of the restrictions it can do a lot. But, I want the freedom of a full on Google phone. I can't wait to hear what the Nexus 3 will be.
The Nexus One was clearly designed to rival anything else at the time in terms of specs, to be a development platform that would stay relevant for as long as possible.
This was a handset designed to make a serious splash and show Google's vision and determination for the platform.
The Nexus S on the other hand is a single-sore handset in a soon-to-be dual-core world. It's the complete opposite of the Nexus One in terms of making a splash, the only news features it brought to the table were gimmicks, like the concave screen; or features that are some time away from having any mainstream significance, like NFC.
The only thing I can think of is that there's some sort reason why Google have chosen to stick with single-sores CPUs for now - lack of proper dual-core utilisation by the OS maybe? I mean, it's not much of a development platform if you start introducing new features/hardware that the OS can't make proper use of...
The next Nexus handset will be a dual-core CPU, we can be sure of that. And I personally reckon it will be launched to accompany an Android update that introduces proper dual-core optimisation.
But that's just me.
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The Nexus One was clearly designed to rival anything else at the time in terms of specs, to be a development platform that would stay relevant for as long as possible.
This was a handset designed to make a serious splash and show Google's vision and determination for the platform.
The Nexus S on the other hand is a single-sore handset in a soon-to-be dual-core world. It's the complete opposite of the Nexus One in terms of making a splash, the only news features it brought to the table were gimmicks, like the concave screen; or features that are some time away from having any mainstream significance, like NFC.
The only thing I can think of is that there's some sort reason why Google have chosen to stick with single-sores CPUs for now - lack of proper dual-core utilisation by the OS maybe? I mean, it's not much of a development platform if you start introducing new features/hardware that the OS can't make proper use of...
The next Nexus handset will be a dual-core CPU, we can be sure of that. And I personally reckon it will be launched to accompany an Android update that introduces proper dual-core optimisation.
But that's just me.
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The Galaxy S was one of the best selling Android phones. Most likely the most sales for a similar models of this generation and there's even more variations just coming out. A Nexus S device made sense. Create a platform phone that has the broadest reach in terms of compatibility. Devs can then base their apps on that consistency. The Nexus One was simliar - (how many phones had the first gen Snapdragon? Tons.). They picked right for the time frame. Dual cores came out soon after but I don't see that level of hardware consistency coming until later this year.
I disagree - if they wanted a dev platform using the Hummingbird CPU, the time to release it was the same sort of time as the original Galaxy S, get it out there ASAP so that the people who needed it could start using it immediately.
They were late.
Which is not to say too late, it will still be of some use but plenty of developers will already have a Galaxy S is they want a Hummingbird-based test-bed, especially given how easy it is to get stock Android on it.
Also, whilst some manufacturers like Samsung are developing their own dual-core CPUs and HTC seem woefully tied to Qualcomm, nVidia's Tegra2 SoC does seem to have reached some level of wide-spread adoption - certainly amongst tablets and also with some of the dual-core handsets that are coming to the market. Heck, even Samsung are using it to bolster their low Exynos supplies.
It wouldn't've been too much of a gamble on Google's part to have released a Tegra2-based dev handset IMO - not really that much less consistency than there has been the past 12 months.
No idea.... please post if come to know about it.
The Nexus is a showcase phone so the next one will showcase Ice-Cream when it comes...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
I hope it's a Verizon phone, every other carrier has or will be getting a Nexus phone.
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I Am Marino said:
I hope it's a Verizon phone, every other carrier has or will be getting a Nexus phone.
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Making it useless for a majority of the world... not sure I can see that happen while there are now radio chips that allow both GSM and CDMA.
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The Nexus is a showcase phone so the next one will showcase Ice-Cream when it comes...
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I agree. It will definitely be using IceCream I think, and I'd definitely imagine it being HTC considering Motorola has dev's working on their own OS supposedly. Samsung and Sony pretty much do their own thing yeah?
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I'd definitely imagine it being HTC considering Motorola has dev's working on their own OS supposedly. Samsung and Sony pretty much do their own thing yeah?
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Why would Samsung be any less likely to get the nod for the next Nexus handset than HTC? Both manufacturers have produced a Nexus-branded handset each, with Google choosing to move from HTC to Samsung for the last one.
If anything, I'd say Samsung are more likely to be selected, especially given they're actually improving on their previous handsets while HTC have stagnated.
As for SE, their entire survival revolves round Android, so I would hardly describe them as 'doing their own thing'.
I haven't particularly kept up with it all, only started the Android craze when I got this phone. I just remember the last time I looked at a SE phone it was using its own OS. And I definitely haven't worried with Droids or Nexus's, I didn't realize that the last Nexus was Samsung, I thought they were rolling heavy just on the Galaxy series.
We all start somewhere yeah
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Should partner with HTC ... should set a standard like what N1 did.
I would choose HTC again also. I do not agree that HTC is stagnated.
The build quality of the HTC´s phones is way better than Sammy. Sammy phones all look and feel like cheep plastic.
Just my 2 cents..
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I would choose HTC again also. I do not agree that HTC is stagnated.
The build quality of the HTC´s phones is way better than Sammy. Sammy phones all look and feel like cheep plastic.
Just my 2 cents..
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True. I feel the same, any smartphone Samsung I've put in my hand feels like I'd lose or crush it easily. However I have noticed their screens seem a bit better in sunlight, and they do seem to try and innovate a bit. But HTC (they didn't used to be though) has finally gotten to a consistent point on quality.
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I guess there's still no rumors yet on what the ice cream showcase phone will be... I've been scouring the internet.
Hopefully google has learned to just sell their software and stay away from selling their own devices.
Saw this today:
android 4.0 now available to htc vivid™ customers
AT&T the First U.S. Carrier to Issue Latest Android Version via Upgrade
Update Includes Beats By Dr. Dre Audio™ and Updated HTC Sense™ Experience
Android Upgrades for Several AT&T Devices to Follow
DALLAS, March 22, 2012 – AT&T* today announced the availability of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) for HTC Vivid™ customers. After installing the software update, customers can now enjoy the optimized audio experience of Beats by Dr. Dre Audio™ and new and improved HTC Sense™ experience. Information about these features and more can be found at http://www.att.com/vividupdate. HTC Vivid™ will be the first U.S. smartphone to receive Ice Cream Sandwich as an update and the first to be issued by a wireless carrier. It will be followed by several other AT&T devices in the coming months:
LG Nitro
Motorola ATRIX 2
Motorola ATRIX 4G
Pantech Burst
Pantech Element
Samsung Captivate Glide
Samsung Galaxy Note
Samsung Galaxy S II
Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket
Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9
Focused on bringing the power of Android to the surface, Android 4.0 makes common actions more visible and lets you navigate with simple, intuitive gestures. Refined animations and feedback throughout the system make interactions engaging and interesting. An entirely new typeface optimized for high-resolution screens improves readability and brings a polished, modern feel to the user interface.
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I thought it was a little strange that the Glide is getting some Official ICS love but not the original Captivate.
Get used to disappointment!
Get used to disappointment!
Well it is a much newer device, you have to remember that too... Sadly AT&T sucks all around at getting updates to Android devices. I love how Apple gets to throw an update the IPhone all the time though.... makes real since, doesn't it???
Yep. Apple has a strangle hold on the carriers. Maybe as Samsung grows that can start pushing back again the carriers. I know its implausible but we all have to have a dream.
Also the iPhone has no bloatware.
Exactly because Apple specified that Att was not allowed to add bloatware
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captivate glide has its own forum area. post there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1487
There is nothing wrong with the discussion of the Glide here in the context that it's being discussed. I'll leave it open unless I see confusion.
Thank you. This was more a discussion about the Glide getting the official nod and not the original cappy. Just curious since I never got my hands on a glide or read much about one. Is the hardware that much different?
Red_81 said:
Thank you. This was more a discussion about the Glide getting the official nod and not the original cappy. Just curious since I never got my hands on a glide or read much about one. Is the hardware that much different?
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I adjusted the thread title to make it more appropriate for this subforum.
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Thank you. This was more a discussion about the Glide getting the official nod and not the original cappy. Just curious since I never got my hands on a glide or read much about one. Is the hardware that much different?
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Its a completely different phone... The keyboard alone makes a HUGE difference in the kernel.
Not to mention, it has a dual core tegra2 processor and double the ram.
Again.... completely different phone.
Based on what the CM9 Devs have said, our phone does not have the internal storage for ICS and TouchWiz. They had to resize the partitions to make room for ICS alone. This is also why there was talk of the "value package" thing.
Remember that unless it's a nexus, you will be getting some "flavored" version of android. It's also not unreasonable for manufacturers to do this, if they didn't then selling phones would be a purely hardware battle of who can push out the best spects. For us at xda it does not matter as much. Yet even for us going from our typical Samsung based ROMs to asop ICS there are features we had to get used to not having. For the general populous the "flavors" of android are a major factor to consider.
These flavors and the fact that apple does not have them is what allows for their "better" update record.
Also I would not be so quick to bash the carriers, there have been times when the manufacturer gave up on a phone but the carrier still pushed out updates.
But really, just accept that the phone is close to 2 years old, honeycomb was only a myth back then, and much of the visuals of 3.0 were not expected to ever come to phones. ICS is just that much of a change, so it's time to move on.
leaked from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
Keep in mind that the Glide has a dual core processor, so that gives them an excuse to make it for the glide but not our lovely captivate
Thank you all for the additional information. Work has been hectic and I haven't gotten the chance to do as much reading lately. Now I feel like I'm somewhat caught up.
And I hope to see other "Captivate something" phones on AT&T. These folks will then come to us for help.
I'm pretty tired of Samsung's awful design capabilities, and attention to detail (from my experience with Galaxy S and Galaxy S II), but I'm actually pretty suprised with the S III's user-experience-functionalities.
My point is, Samsung introduced some cool new features, but I've had enough of their Galaxy's cheap plastic and want to move on to an HTC One X.
What I was wondering was, would there be any way to get any (if not all) of these features on any Android device?
- Direct Call: If you pick up your phone near your ear while reading a message, it will automatically dial that number. (Seems easy to port/mimic)
- Buddy Photo Share: An intelligent way to tag your friends in photos you take, by selecting their faces. After you've tagged them, the device will recognize them in future photos.
- Pop up play: This is actually pretty cool. If you're watching a video, you can pop it out and keep on doing other stuff, while the video is playing in a separate, moveable window. Could be handy.
- Smart alert: If you were away from your phone and someone called you, once you pick the phone back up it will let you know someone called by vibrating to inform you.
- Social tag: Once you've tagged a friend in a photo of his (see "Buddy Photo Share" above), while you're browsing through pictures of him the device will automatically link his tag and show you their current status on social networks.
- S-Beam: Actually pretty simple NFC file-transfer, by touching two compatible devices' back, it will transfer any file automatically between the two.
- Smart Stay: One of my favorites. Using the front-facing camera, the device will automatically brighten/dim the screen depending on whether you're looking at it or not.
There are other features, but I just thought these were the ones you'd actually use on a day-to-day basis.
Anyway, is there anything out there that can replace the features I just mentioned? Or even better, do you think it would be possible to port these exact features from a Galaxy S III to any other Android phone?
TL;DR: How to obtain Galaxy S III's features (above, in bold) in other Android phones?
Thank you for your time!
I think developers can do this touchwiz is not hard as htc sense.
Before you jump to any conclusions, ask yourself this "Will my phone handle features that were made for a quad core phone?"
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Before you jump to any conclusions, ask yourself this "Will my phone handle features that were made for a quad core phone?"
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No...no it won't... Wait, unless... YES! YES IT WILL! The International HTC One X IS quad core!
Thanks for your help, Sherlock!
Some of those features sound pretty cool, hadn't heard of this stuff before. Hope other manufacturers clone them in their phones or Google adds them to Android officially.
check this: OpenDesign:
"Our goal is to have features coming from various manufacturers user interface overlays be seamlessly integrated into your phone. Why is it cool? All CyanogenMod 9 enabled devices can enjoy software features for which manufacturers would rather you buy a new and expensive phone. "
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check this: OpenDesign
"Our goal is to have features coming from various manufacturers user interface overlays be seamlessly integrated into your phone. Why is it cool? All CyanogenMod 9 enabled devices can enjoy software features for which manufacturers would rather you buy a new and expensive phone. "
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Pretty good info, although they are saying they will do most stuff for Cyanogen Mod, whereas I would prefer having those features in, say, HTC One X's stock OS, by means of an app, for instance.
Anyone else got some thoughts on this? Do these features seem easy to port onto another OS?
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Before you jump to any conclusions, ask yourself this "Will my phone handle features that were made for a quad core phone?"
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Answer is yes I have a htc one x
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Answer is yes I have a htc one x
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Exactly, I'm planning on getting one myself. The only thing making me hesitating is that the S III will have all those useful apps. Still, I don't believe that THAT'S worth sticking with Samsung's plasticky feel, among other things.
Help?
Just curious, what are some good arguments in a apple vs android conflict? What does android have on iPhones? If possible, be specific, and include nexus s features.
Android > Apple/iOS.. Nuf said.
freedom vs iPhone
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IPhone - justin bieber
Android - Chuck Norris
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Here you go.
One would say iPhone/iOS is good merely they're the first ones who dominated the smartphone market with apps and whatnot.
Okay, you got lots of apps, so what? iOS can't really customize the way they want things to look.
Unlike Android devices, there's the ability to customize according to what we want out phone to look like.
iOS don't even have widgets or whatnot. And, iOS 6 just got panorama? what a joke!
If you're dealing with those with low budget but want a smartphone capable of apps like facebook whatsapp and whatnot you can tell them since Android is open source, manufacturers came out with tonnes of devices with Android installed. Not only that it's cheaper cause it's open source
there's also a lot of variety of phones to choose from depending on your budget and your favored specifications.
So what's good about nexus s?
why not galaxy s or what not?
Simple, flagship phone will ALWAYS have the update first.
Let's take an example, Galaxy S2
We're not talking about the specifications here anyways.
Galaxy S2 came out last year during May. Then quickly S3 came out.
But S2 was quickly neglected. There's no OFFICIAL JB (as far as I know, correct me if i'm wrong)
and Nexus S, a 2010 model has it.
So what's special about Nexus S? (applies to Nexus devices as well)
Is the update that we get and community support.
It's up 2 you
Just found this on reddit, it will be interesting if it really happens. I would be interested to know XDA's thoughts on this rumor.
http://www.geek.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition-to-be-announced-at-google-io-1555174/
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Fantastic! Lets wait and see if it is true.
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I hope they give us the option to flash this ROM with Odin for i9505/i9500 in the future.
Wow, this would be fantastic.
The SGS4 GE would stop people *****ing about TW, s/w, lag, and 9GB of available storage.
The SGS4 Activ would stop the people *****ing about the display cracking.
The SGS4 Zoom would stop the people *****ing about the camera.
Something for everyone.
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Wow, this would be fantastic.
The SGS4 GE would stop people *****ing about TW, s/w, lag, and 9GB of available storage.
The SGS4 Activ would stop the people *****ing about the display cracking.
The SGS4 Zoom would stop the people *****ing about the camera.
Something for everyone.
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The SGS4 Ultimate would combine all of the above to stop people biching about all of the above.
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The SGS4 Ultimate would combine all of the above to stop people biching about all of the above.
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Add metal construction to it and it would be the perfect phone. And probably $1,000 USD.
If this releases tomorrow and is updated by Google, that will be my next phone for sure. Although I'm not sure if I would miss the features Samsung added to touch wiz.
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If this releases tomorrow and is updated by Google, that will be my next phone for sure. Although I'm not sure if I would miss the features Samsung added to touch wiz.
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Why not just stay on the TouchWiz version and hope for a dualboot kernel? That way you could enjoy the best of both worlds. A perfect aosp rom would be amazing and might even make some of the cyanogenmod devs come back.
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Why not just stay on the TouchWiz version and hope for a dualboot kernel? That way you could enjoy the best of both worlds. A perfect aosp rom would be amazing and might even make some of the cyanogenmod devs come back.
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That would be awesome, I'm very excited for tomorrow.
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And i hope its the 9500 version....
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And i hope its the 9500 version....
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Doubt it'll be an Exynos variant as that would require a lot of work from Samsung. Releasing an AOSP version of the i9505 would allow them to piggyback on Google/Cyanogenmod.
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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The rumours have it pegged for a release on AT&T. And none of the above matters as it isn't a nexus device.
JaeKay said:
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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Very invalid arguments.
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Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
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It's a rumor so you could be right. But there's some logic in it. If what the story OP posted is true it's not a Nexus phone; it's a special edition of what's likely going to be the best selling device of 2013 in "pure" form from the world's largest Android device manufacturer.
It's good for Samsung because:
It's positive press and shows Google and Samsung are a "team" damping all the "stake through the heart" stories.
Addresses Samsung's perceived lack of support for "enthusiasts" (EG: dev community).
Introduces another SGS4 variant that addresses the needs/wants of a sliver of the market further increasing SGS4 sales.
It'll cost them next to nothing to produce and support.
It's good for Google because:
It's positive press and shows Google and Samsung are a "team" damping all the "stake through the heart" stories.
Samsung releasing a non-TW device shows their support for native Android and Google's not on the hook for contractual commitments and added time to market like with the Nexus program.
The more support for Android the better.
Google's a business. This would be good for business. That, to me, supersedes fixed storage and on-screen navigation keys. This isn't much different than what HTC/T-Mobile did when they released the Desire Z as the T-Mobile G2. It was the same phone sans the overlay and marketed as "pure Google." This would be a more dramatic announcment than Motorola's XFON with last year's specs that been rumored for I/O. We'll know soon enough.
Wonder if the software is pure android (no touchwiz) if Samsung will still **** with the screen brightness based on the color of what is being displayed on the screen or if this version would actually be brighter than the touchwiz version
We will find out today
I really like Touchwiz it looks beautiful but I also love AOSP rom:laugh:
Sadly this version will only be available to developers as SamMobile has stated.
I'm not completely sure in which ways a normal everyday user could profit from this?
Maybe all XDA'ers will eventually turn into developers?
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If they do release such a phone, it would surely be ported to the normal variants easily as they have the same hardware. So, if it does happen, it would be a very good thing.
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