Hi everybody,
We all know our phones CM9 development is soon gonna be complete(?) AS FAR AS kernel 2.xx CAN ALLOW... So the question that everyones asking is this " When will Dhiru start compiling CM 10 ?? "
I OPENED THIS THREAD TO ASK YOU THIS :
SHOULD WE GO FOR CM7 OR CM10 ??
This question arose when my brother wanted to take an android.. He asked bout SL.. Even though i love my SL i had to suggest s2 bcoz it has stable aosp rom support.. Our fone, well, right now belongs to the low development area... Development is at starting to get low... No custom roms, no themes and lot of incomplete aosp roms...
If we go for CM7 dvelopment, i am hopeful that we'll hav atleast a 100% stable AOSP rom.. Even though it might be ancient in the current scenario, we'll get a lightning quick rom that will just fly on our fone..
And well, a stable CM7 will lead to a stable MIUI... Ppl can work on things with a stable AOSP base...
I know its for Dhiru to decide.. Wanted to know what the community is thinking...
neojith said:
Hi everybody,
We all know our phones CM9 development is soon gonna be complete(?) AS FAR AS kernel 2.xx CAN ALLOW... So the question that everyones asking is this " When will Dhiru start compiling CM 10 ?? "
I OPENED THIS THREAD TO ASK YOU THIS :
SHOULD WE GO FOR CM7 OR CM10 ??
This question arose when my brother wanted to take an android.. He asked bout SL.. Even though i love my SL i had to suggest s2 bcoz it has stable aosp rom support.. Our fone, well, right now belongs to the low development area... Development is at starting to get low... No custom roms, no themes and lot of incomplete aosp roms...
If we go for CM7 dvelopment, i am hopeful that we'll hav atleast a 100% stable AOSP rom.. Even though it might be ancient in the current scenario, we'll get a lightning quick rom that will just fly on our fone..
And well, a stable CM7 will lead to a stable MIUI... Ppl can work on things with a stable AOSP base...
I know its for Dhiru to decide.. Wanted to know what the community is thinking...
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CM9 is already more stable than CM7.
BEFORE ANY NOOBS STARTS FLAGGING ON ME, MIND THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS COMMUNITY..
I KNOW I CANT FORCE DHIRU INTO DEVELOPING ANYTHING..
AND THAT THIS IS JUST TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS...
PEACE... :highfive:
samisax said:
CM9 is already more stable than CM7.
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samisax said:
CM9 is already more stable than CM7.
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yep.. currently cm9 is more stable than cm7.. I m asking whether it wud be nice for dhiru to start working on cm7 and make it completely stable after he can do everything for cm9 as far as kernel 2.xx can allow...
neojith said:
yep.. currently cm9 is more stable than cm7.. I m asking whether it wud be nice for dhiru to start working on cm7 and make it completely stable after he can do everything for cm9 as far as kernel 2.xx can allow...
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Why would he do that? That's like saying that Froyo should be developed for the S3.
Dhiru is going to fix everything with the help of everyone in this community (devs and testers). I truly believe that. He doesn't need to do it (he has 2 other phones) so he does it for the pleasure of the challenge. Kernel 2.x.x isn't a limitation and kernel 3.x.x isn't aborted. The way things are going, I imagine that CM9 will be out of alpha with everything working very soon. That'll be when the tweaking and mods flood in. CM10 will be just a few ports away.
I say leave CM7 where it should be. History. Sorry to be a buzz kill, but CM7 is for devices that really can't handle ICS and the i9003 can.
Also CM10 won't need many changes anyways, a working CM9 will probably result in a working CM10.
So nope, CM10 won't be an incomplete ROM, basically CM9 Bugs = CM10 Bugs, i am with improving CM9 and CM10 at the same time, and leaving CM7 laaater on.
I agree with sam too, CM7 is outdated.
@samisax
Wonderful answer, that!!n a good argument too...i agree one hundred percent that cm7 should be written off as history.dhiru will soon give us a stable cm9 AND Cm10 i m sure
I agree on what samisax says, if this phone can run cm10, there is no reason to go backwards.
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Why would he do that? That's like saying that Froyo should be developed for the S3.
Dhiru is going to fix everything with the help of everyone in this community (devs and testers). I truly believe that. He doesn't need to do it (he has 2 other phones) so he does it for the pleasure of the challenge. Kernel 2.x.x isn't a limitation and kernel 3.x.x isn't aborted. The way things are going, I imagine that CM9 will be out of alpha with everything working very soon. That'll be when the tweaking and mods flood in. CM10 will be just a few ports away.
I say leave CM7 where it should be. History. Sorry to be a buzz kill, but CM7 is for devices that really can't handle ICS and the i9003 can.
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Skander1998 said:
Also CM10 won't need many changes anyways, a working CM9 will probably result in a working CM10.
So nope, CM10 won't be an incomplete ROM, basically CM9 Bugs = CM10 Bugs, i am with improving CM9 and CM10 at the same time, and leaving CM7 laaater on.
I agree with sam too, CM7 is outdated.
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As i said in the OP, outdated may be, but something which can be made 100% stable by a developer such as dhiru in a very short time(comparitively)... Something which can be used as a TRUE daily driver..
As dhiru and othr developers say ther are many things in cm9 & cm10, which can only be fixed when kernel 3.xx comes out.. Ad dt get me wrong, i know our fone can handle ICS perfectly... But it'll take tym.. Till the time comes, cant we hav cm7??
i think it is a bad idea to make cm7 stable, because a single step on working cm7, will lead to delay stable cm9...
i hope dhiru can finish developing cm9 soon.
we must settle for cm9 first and then cm10 can be developed by some good guys
thanks dhiru for cm9 even it is not finished yet. it is good to see my phones capabilities.
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Faux123 has taken time out of his life to help us out with this kernel, help out and test with us please!! Thanks! Don't forget to thank him and anyone that helps out!! Enjoy!!!!
I still love you Romracer and Da_g!!! i just like to have more options... you know? kinda like dating 3 girls at one time... 2 is just not enough.. ahaha
ok so if you are down please let join in!!!!!
https://twitter.com/#!/faux123/status/156616436087914496
I am down to test it as long as this does not show up in Dev forum again!!!!
I'll test as well
Thanks guys you wont be upset!!!! soooo goooood!!1
From what I understand, lots of T-Mo dev's build off Da_G's source, or at least I'm told (from him).
Wouldn't mind having a new dev though, I'll test.
You should have asked him to help port CM7...he was one of the major devs who got the Atrix supported by Cyanogenmod. I'd rather him help make a stable CM7 so we can get nightlies and CM9 when ICS comes out. You think you can ask him to do that instead?
Phoneguy589 said:
You should have asked him to help port CM7...he was one of the major devs who got the Atrix supported by Cyanogenmod. I'd rather him help make a stable CM7 so we can get nightlies and CM9 when ICS comes out. You think you can ask him to do that instead?
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Ill ask but then we should have a vote... i kinda feel the same way.. i like cm more than stock but some ppl might feel otherwise
Monster cm7
I am using his kernel already and everythings was smooth
justbenice said:
I am using his kernel already and everythings was smooth
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How?
Monster cm7
cm7 so i can get MIUI
Im in .....I know my way around a phone.
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Count me in as well
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The only reason why I suggested the CM7 is because CM9 will be ICS based and eventually 2.3.5/6 will be old. OC'g to me, now, is pointless because I don't have a need to OC. Some people might want to OC but I only did it to see how high I can score on benchmarks.
My vote is to make CM7 stable so Cyanogenmod can make nightly updates and eventually port CM9 to the i727.
Yeah I'm down for cm7/9 so ill keep this up for a day or so before telling him. Thanks for the feedback
Monster cm7
I guess cm7 kernal it is
Monster cm7
HURRRRRAY
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tacotino said:
I guess cm7 kernal it is
Monster cm7
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Not sure if the audio issues are kernel related or not but whatever he can do would be appreciated greatly by many in the community. I would willing to contribute to him for his efforts if he can get the few kinks worked out to get it supported by cyanogenmod.
Skyrocket Beta 008 build 1 is out!
Same as my T-mobile SGS2 but compiled with SkyRocket specific settings:
https://twitter.com/#!/faux123/status/155904317495316481
faux123 said:
Skyrocket Beta 008 build 1 is out!
Same as my T-mobile SGS2 but compiled with SkyRocket specific settings:
https://twitter.com/#!/faux123/status/155904317495316481
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is this a cm7 kernal??
the2rrell said:
is this a cm7 kernal??
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Stock.. I don't have CM7 yet
Haven't flashed yet, downloading now. Well report back once I have flashed it
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=glacier
Edit: Work's like charm
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Flawless for you...I can't get data at all..
Hell, pressing home doesn'tr even take me home..does noting..
Why are they still developing CM7?
Ok..odd..when I try to go to the Market to download my apps..I get connection error. But I can connect to the web just fine..
TeeJay3800 said:
Why are they still developing CM7?
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+1 they should focus on CM9 lol
saranhai said:
+1 they should focus on CM9 lol
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They decided to release CM 7.2 before CM9.
DKMikey said:
They decided to release CM 7.2 before CM9.
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One really has to wonder why. GB is old news. Why put developer's time and energy into updating something no one cares about? Focus on CM9!
TeeJay3800 said:
One really has to wonder why. GB is old news. Why put developer's time and energy into updating something no one cares about? Focus on CM9!
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Maybe because some phone supported by CM7 might not get ICS.
Good news for the nightlies.
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SprigganMaster said:
Maybe because some phone supported by CM7 might not get ICS.
Good news for the nightlies.
Sent from my HTC Panache / Darkside CM7.2 using xda premium.
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This phone can run CM9 w/ no problems. Feb has proven that to us. It's going to go to a 4.0 Source code drop of this phone, or the DHD to get it before we see a stable build for it.
This is pretty exciting news imo. Any indication the CM team hasn't forgotten about our device, the better. I am curious about getting into the nightly routine but I have really liked using TDJs KANG when I use CM. Mostly because I almost always get better battery life on his kernels.
On that note, does anyone know where to download the Darkside X kernel he packaged with the 7.2 KANG? The kernel thread he links to only has 12 and 12.5. I can't find it in the my touch forums for the life of me. The only similarly named thing is in his new Samsung device forums but it clearly states in that thread that he compiled it from Samsung code so that can't be the same one he bundled with our KANG can it?
I supposed a more experienced user or amateur dev can extract the kernel from the KANG and make a flashable version so I can use it with the nightlies; but I would never ask for such a thing.........
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This is pretty exciting news imo. Any indication the CM team hasn't forgotten about our device, the better. I am curious about getting into the nightly routine but I have really liked using TDJs KANG when I use CM. Mostly because I almost always get better battery life on his kernels.
On that note, does anyone know where to download the Darkside X kernel he packaged with the 7.2 KANG? The kernel thread he links to only has 12 and 12.5. I can't find it in the my touch forums for the life of me. The only similarly named thing is in his new Samsung device forums but it clearly states in that thread that he compiled it from Samsung code so that can't be the same one he bundled with our KANG can it?
I supposed a more experienced user or amateur dev can extract the kernel from the KANG and make a flashable version so I can use it with the nightlies; but I would never ask for such a thing.........
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Go to his github, if its anywhere, its there....
https://github.com/thederekjay
TeeJay3800 said:
One really has to wonder why. GB is old news. Why put developer's time and energy into updating something no one cares about? Focus on CM9!
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I think they didn't want to just throw away CM 7.2 before jumping into CM 9. Plus there are certain things that don't work, such as the camera, that I don't think the CM team would push out a build without things like that working at all. I doubt we'll see a stable release before HTC drops any ICS source code.
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Go to his github, if its anywhere, its there....
https://github.com/thederekjay
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Nope, nothing resembling a kernel named Darkside X for glacier. Doesn't seem like anything on there was updated in the past 2 months though.
There are 3 possibilities I see as to an explanation.
1 - the kernel is 12.5 with almost nothing different. Enough to warrant a different version title but not enough to establish hosting it as it's own new thing.
2 - it's the Samsung kernel and it's compatible with the mytouch (doesn't seem likely but his kernels have magically been cross-compatible before [g2] so who knows).
3 - it's a current version but mislabeled. That seems so unlikely from what I know of this dev that I won't even entertain such an idea.
I haven't noticed a world of a difference from this "darkside x" kernel versus the kind of performance I got on the 12.5 so I will just pretend the darkside x is some anomaly and be more than happy with using 12.5.
CM9 is way to far from a lot of devices, only devices getting official nightlys are the nexus phones (crespo, toro and the new galaxy nexus ) thats why they are developing cm7, cyanogenmod needs to re-write all the code becuse google makes a lot of changes in ICS
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THANK You !!! Good to know MT4g is still getting support.
hi there..
just a noob question, will there be a miui roms for tab 7+ P6200? since i thought those roms are awesome..
Heeeeeeeeee hehe it should be AMAZING you're right I personally guess it shouldn't be too hard to build, but we have few devs right now and aorth is already working on the CM9 which supposed to be wonderful too.
I read once talking about the P6200 MIUI in its Italian channel on nexuslab but I think we're still far away from it
Let's hope dude I'd just like it too on my own p6200
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In order to properly have MIUI, we must have CM9 first. Why? MIUI is based off of CM.
That being said, once we have CM9 fully (or close to) being a Daily Driver, someone can easily port over MIUI using a lot of the CM9 components and merging them with MIUI bits.
Atleast that's how it happened on my Epic 4G
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Ceelos09 said:
In order to properly have MIUI, we must have CM9 first. Why? MIUI is based off of CM.
That being said, once we have CM9 fully (or close to) being a Daily Driver, someone can easily port over MIUI using a lot of the CM9 components and merging them with MIUI bits.
Atleast that's how it happened on my Epic 4G
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CM and MIUI are both AOSP ROMs and you need an AOSP kernel in order to get them to work properly. You could get it ported over right now but nothing would work, same as with the CM9 builds we already have, so really I see no point in doing it except as a proof of concept or work in progress type ROM. The few devs we have are all working hard on CM9 but it's slow going without having all the needed hardware drivers that Samsung won't release. Once that is done MIUI won't be far behind.
we have very few developers for now, and there are some major issues such as the wireless.. until that issues are resolved, i don't think we want to split tasks or add more task for the developers. We need at least one working custom kernel first for use as a basis. That is a much higher priority now.
Can't post this in the development section as a response so I will post it here. Does the new InstigatorX 6.1 kernel work on TeamChopsticks CM10 8/12 a2 ROM? YES!!! Everything works great. Camera, video and landscape work also. Only issue is I get FC's using Facebook sometimes but that is minor for me. Used CWM 6xx to flash. Flashed rom, gapps 7/29 and kernel flawlessly. As always, thanks to everyone involved for making our phones much more enjoyable! Enjoy!
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Calling and texting also work good. No issues yet. Still an alpha so you may have issues with other programs. Chances are that we don't have the same stuff. Only thing is overall phone volume has been low since I first flashed CM9 two months ago. Easy fix was downloading a volume boost app.
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Can't post this in the development section as a response so I will post it here. Does the new InstigatorX 6.1 kernel work on TeamChopsticks CM10 8/12 a2 ROM? YES!!! Everything works great. Camera, video and landscape work also. Only issue is I get FC's using Facebook sometimes but that is minor for me. Used CWM 6xx to flash. Flashed rom, gapps 7/29 and kernel flawlessly. As always, thanks to everyone involved for making our phones much more enjoyable! Enjoy!
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I agree completely but it is strange that I was using 6.0 before upgrading to 6.1 and worked flawlessly, my problem is flash not working for videos on the sites I browse that previously worked before
yavihah said:
I agree completely but it is strange that I was using 6.0 before upgrading to 6.1 and worked flawlessly, my problem is flash not working for videos on the sites I browse that previously worked before
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YouTube and Break apps work without fc'ing. Have noticed the same on actual websites with flash though. like ebaumsworld, but I can usually refresh the page and it loads.
Dispatched from ye ol' Skyrocket running TeamChopsticks CM10 a2 4.1.1 JB w/ InstigatorX 6.1 kernel
please update...i love it
hey peps cant post on forum since i just signed up..kinda lame.. i just want to give props to gmillz and armyvet for their skyrocket rom aokp build.. i have been running it for close to 2 weeks and i really like it... i have been keeping up on the reads and i from what i am understanding is you both are kinda of walking away from it.. i have tried the cm 10 versions, the paranoid one as well and i have to give it to you guys.. your jb aokp blows them away... if any of you guys catch this keep up the good work and if anyone wants to try a good jb rom i highly suggest this one.. it has had a few fc's but nothing bad.. very user friendly and could only get way better... im on my phone and cant send a link so its the
[rom][4.1.1]aokp jellybean[alpha 2][8/05/12] build
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hey peps cant post on forum since i just signed up..kinda lame.. i just want to give props to gmillz and armyvet for their skyrocket rom aokp build.. i have been running it for close to 2 weeks and i really like it... i have been keeping up on the reads and i from what i am understanding is you both are kinda of walking away from it.. i have tried the cm 10 versions, the paranoid one as well and i have to give it to you guys.. your jb aokp blows them away... if any of you guys catch this keep up the good work and if anyone wants to try a good jb rom i highly suggest this one.. it has had a few fc's but nothing bad.. very user friendly and could only get way better... im on my phone and cant send a link so its the
[rom][4.1.1]aokp jellybean[alpha 2][8/05/12] build
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r4ins is going to keep up with the AOKP Jellybean project since armyvet is not, and gmillz will also probably keep building on their ROM. I'm on the 8/5 with the 1a chopsticks base and InstigatorX 6.2 kernel. If you're experiencing a "choppy" feel, check out either the Darkside or InstigatorX kernel and pick a good frequency governor. That can help a lot. On any of these early ROM's you're going to still get FC's and reboots.. they're Alpha's. If avoiding that is the most important thing to you, I would stick to CM9, Chimera, SkyICS, or a similar ICS ROM.
Hi xda
Instead of dealing with a stable CM7 CM9 why do not you? (Google translate.. Sorry)
İ want stable cm7.. Because cm9-cm10 is buggy..
If you want stable Rom use e.g. Frabkenstainmod, i think cm 7 is stable enough, i think its a good thing what dhiru is doing and other dev are also doing. They are working on stable cm 9 and cm 10 and when that get stable, the roms will be much better than cm 7
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But we can look forward to for months..
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But we can look forward to for months..
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Devs dont want to waste time on an OS no one wants to use. They want to make a stable CM9/10. Why work on an old OS when you can push more effort on a new one?
BassBlaster said:
Devs dont want to waste time on an OS no one wants to use. They want to make a stable CM9/10. Why work on an old OS when you can push more effort on a new one?
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Like what BassBlaster said, why would developers spend time on CM 7 when they can help CM9 and CM10 be stable. ICS and JB have more Mods, Kernels and Rom then Gingerbread, and the designed are more nice than Gingerbread. And I'm still curious what makes your phone laggy on JB and ICS.
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Like what BassBlaster said, why would developers spend time on CM 7 when they can help CM9 and CM10 be stable. ICS and JB have more Mods, Kernels and Rom then Gingerbread, and the designed are more nice than Gingerbread. And I'm still curious what makes your phone laggy on JB and ICS.
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kernel makes laggy cm9/10
Mamica said:
kernel makes laggy cm9/10
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I used Paranoid (based on CM10) and Revolution kernel, i dont experience any lags and it make my phone more smoother and save more battery
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