So, I have recently came across Splashtop, which claims to allow you to access your desktop PC remotely via an Android device. My questions is, however, how well does it actually work - especially on the Galaxy Note? Could I say, finish some homework on Microsoft Office utilising this or even stream games such as Fallout and Terraria?
Brad387 said:
So, I have recently came across Splashtop, which claims to allow you to access your desktop PC remotely via an Android device. My questions is, however, how well does it actually work - especially on the Galaxy Note? Could I say, finish some homework on Microsoft Office utilising this or even stream games such as Fallout and Terraria?
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Splashtop works pretty great. Basically you are looking at the image of your desktop. You can control the computer remotely. I have used it to check home spycam when I was away. It functions as if you were there sitting in front of the computer. It is difficult to do much on the Note however. You need a larger screen to really get things done. It's good to watch movies playing on the pc. I don't think Fallout or any other game would function all that great though. Worth a try.
Brad387 said:
So, I have recently came across Splashtop, which claims to allow you to access your desktop PC remotely via an Android device. My questions is, however, how well does it actually work - especially on the Galaxy Note? Could I say, finish some homework on Microsoft Office utilising this or even stream games such as Fallout and Terraria?
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I own the Note and splashtop and could honestly say that most everything would be a pain. If you're away from your computer (eg: using 3G) then it's damn near useless. If you're around the house and have wifi, it's pretty fast. If away and you have wifi, it's pretty slow but usable if you're just trying to transfer a few files and whatnot... Doing Office homework might not be too bad, but you could probably do better with QuickOffice HD or OfficeSuite (as long as you could just go home and touch it up later).
As far as the Terraria Statement, I posted this back on the Transformer Prime forum, but this might help you out too:
How to install and play Terraria on Android
I bought it during the promotion last time.
Works pretty well over wifi.
For 3G and above, really depends on your reception. Some places work with negligible performance impact.
Games wise, this may be dependent on your GPU and OS version. You have to see their support psge for more info. There is a version made for games though it is tablet only.
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Use Teamviewer its 10x better and is free
I use it all the time
Thanks, but it does not transmit sound. I want something I can use to access my laptop ipstairs from downstairs. Mainly I want to be able to use MS Office.
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I like the looks of Splashtop merely because it transmits sound.
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Sorry for the off-topic but is there an app that does the reverse thing (controlling my phone with my computer). I found a few apps but the frame rate was so slow so I couldn't watch movies for example.
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Is this working on job as well
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Brad387 said:
So, I have recently came across Splashtop, which claims to allow you to access your desktop PC remotely via an Android device. My questions is, however, how well does it actually work - especially on the Galaxy Note? Could I say, finish some homework on Microsoft Office utilising this or even stream games such as Fallout and Terraria?
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Wyse Pocketcloud is much better in terms of controls and it is free. I don't think it transmits sound, though.
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I'm using Team Viewer. It's cool, but is it possible to resize my desktop to fit on my Galaxy Note's screen or just zoom out like?
Splashtop is able to change the resolution to fit your screen though
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There's always 2X Remote Desktop too. Free, uses RDP and resizes to the res of your device. Its free and stable for me.
I wouldn't try any video over it (RDP is crap for that) but for normal remote control its great. I've set up a VPN to my home and connected over 3G with reasonable performance.
Oh, and my experience of Splashtop has been really hit and miss. Mainly miss, and mainly because it only works sometimes if you have Windows firewall or RDP connections enabled.
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There's always 2X Remote Desktop too. Free, uses RDP and resizes to the res of your device. Its free and stable for me.
I wouldn't try any video over it (RDP is crap for that) but for normal remote control its great. I've set up a VPN to my home and connected over 3G with reasonable performance.
Oh, and my experience of Splashtop has been really hit and miss. Mainly miss, and mainly because it only works sometimes if you have Windows firewall or RDP connections enabled.
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I just tried Splashtop 2 with the add-on pack, and hot Damn is it just great! Love it. Won't be switching anytime soon now.
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You mean Splashtop 2 for iOS?
I thought the android version isn't released yet.
A bit disappointed in their payment model too
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You mean Splashtop 2 for iOS?
I thought the android version isn't released yet.
A bit disappointed in their payment model too
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Nope, definitely mean Android. Right now it's set to tablets only though, so I'm sure you could acquire it and then use it on the Note. After all, it is free. If you own the older version you can email them and get a free year
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Got it from Google Play. It is free - which is smart to given that all our devices are Wifi Direct ready and the miracast is about to take off.
The desktop is mapped to pixel perfection. I am used to small screens. It is the first remote solution where the stylus hover works, that is steers the mouse, unfortunately I cannot drag. The mouse sensitivity in halflife was over the top. Performance unfortunately did suffer from micro-lags / stutter. Smooth mode hardly helped. Bandwidth is between 1Mbps to 4Mbps. Setup is as painless as it gets - see wikipedia for an explanation.
And yes a tegra helps.
If it weren't for the dragging-input issue I would have been very impressed.
U can also try Jump desktop, which is a very similar app. Mouse hover with S-pen works too, and GUI is reasonably fast
Overall, it all depends on your connection speed, and the adaptability of your desktop content to a much smaller screen, regardless of the closeness in resolution. I find it very useful to check and use some non-critical programs on the way to work. Also, it gets my office PC up and running, so that I can start working right away
I use LogMeIn Pro it costs but there are plenty of free torrents out there.
You can do everything from your note screen
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Remote desktop solutions are dime a dozen. There are literally hundreds of them out there now.
Teamviewer stands out for its freeness, ease of use and portability as well as great device support. Unfortunately it does not adapt well to the Wacom Pen's features on the Note (yet). It's performance with low bandwidth is almost unrivalled. A 1h session nets you around 40MB total
Splashtop stands out for promoting itself as the speediest remote solution in the market. It was also very a smart move to hook up with Nvidia. It basically utilizes the high CPU performance on one side and the great encoding capabilities on the mobile devices (which were even ahead of Intel's Atom lineup at that time). Splashtop carves into the miracast, Wireless desktop branch.
Let's see when and how the miracast technology takes off and proves itself hassle-free.
I am foremost interested now in hooking up my Android to my PC Screen at high framerates....
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I am a new member and have just bought the last 3 G's from my local office depot based on the forum support here for the tab. You guys are outstanding and based on the mods I convinced my wife to ditch dreams of her gettin an iPad.
Now my 1sst question I'd like to ask the community is has anyone tried the dual boot version of the G tablet and is it worth the money? I do alot of remote access to my server from my laptop, and would like to find a replacement for that method.
Not finding any good info on remotely accessing a windows machine from and android device, so I am considering the dual boot version for that purpose.
Any input?
There are plenty of VNC clients for Android, but I personally use LogMeIn Ignition (which is, admittedly, pretty expensive) because I already use LogMeIn's service elsewhere. Works like a dream.
For most people, typical VNC clients will work just fine. Depends on how you roll.
PhoneMyPC works well also.
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I am a new member and have just bought the last 3 G's from my local office depot based on the forum support here for the tab. You guys are outstanding and based on the mods I convinced my wife to ditch dreams of her gettin an iPad.
Now my 1sst question I'd like to ask the community is has anyone tried the dual boot version of the G tablet and is it worth the money? I do alot of remote access to my server from my laptop, and would like to find a replacement for that method.
Not finding any good info on remotely accessing a windows machine from and android device, so I am considering the dual boot version for that purpose.
Any input?
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It's not "cheap", but the Xtralogic Remote Desktop Client for Android is actually a very slick solution. It supports encryption, and has all the support you need for accessing Windows machines through RDP. The mouse is moved by using the screen like a trackpad, all keys are available, and with the Gtab screen size it's actually fairly usable.
Also want to throw out there WYSE PocketCloud works great and the trial is more than enough for my remote desktop needs (15+ servers). Works great on the 10 inch screen, no complaints here!
I can give you some real-world recent feedback.
I have dozens of servers I need to be able to remotely access and we do not allow RDP, so UltraVNC and LogMeIn is installed on each. I have already set up shortcuts for each server for convenience in setting up a new user to access them.
Every one of the VNC clients I have tried is lacking in some way. Some in several ways.
RemoteVNC has ads across the top so it is essentially worthless. I didn't bother trying it other than the first connection.
PocketCloud looks great, but I cannot find a way to import .vnc files (shortcuts) or send keystrokes to the login window. Very counter-intuitive, IMHO. Their support is almost non-existent in my recent experience, since I have asked in their forum and have yet to get ANY kind of answer from either their devs or their forum community. UPDATE: they JUST responded to me with "Sorry."
MochaVNC Lite has no ability to send CTRL+ALT+DEL that I can find so ... worthless.
Android-VNC has weird glitchy graphic issues the two times that I tried it.
LogMeIn is the only one that looked good and performed well enough for me to check statuses.
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It's not "cheap", but the Xtralogic Remote Desktop Client for Android is actually a very slick solution. It supports encryption, and has all the support you need for accessing Windows machines through RDP. The mouse is moved by using the screen like a trackpad, all keys are available, and with the Gtab screen size it's actually fairly usable.
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+1, this product is AMAZING and well worth the cash if you plan to use it a lot. I have it on my phone and tab and it's flawless. It allows you to save all settings for one click TS access and set the screen to 'full-screen' and will resize according to device AND layout!
+1 for LogMeIn Ignition for Android. I used to lug around my crazy heavy laptop when I traveled for business and now I leave it logged in at the office and access it via my gTab using LogMeIn. It works great and has plenty of folks using it if you need a question answered or issue resolved.
Thanks for the input on logmein. I've been using UltraVNC on my laptop to access all my machines on the network and has been great.
Will deffinately look into logmein pro.
THanks guys.
But 1 question remains unanswered. Has anyone had any experience using the dual boot G tablet? Is it worth the extra 2 bills for the dual boot option, or is just gimicky?
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Thanks for the input on logmein. I've been using UltraVNC on my laptop to access all my machines on the network and has been great.
Will deffinately look into logmein pro.
THanks guys.
But 1 question remains unanswered. Has anyone had any experience using the dual boot G tablet? Is it worth the extra 2 bills for the dual boot option, or is just gimicky?
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Do you Mean the Viewpad? Not worth it if you want android. it has android 1.6, also it uses an atom processor instead of a Tegra 2 Dual core.
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Do you Mean the Viewpad? Not worth it if you want android. it has android 1.6, also it uses an atom processor instead of a Tegra 2 Dual core.
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Supposedly there's a group that's ported 2.2 over to x86, and the Viewpad is one of their main targets. I have no idea how well it works, or what its maturity is.
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+1, this product is AMAZING and well worth the cash if you plan to use it a lot. I have it on my phone and tab and it's flawless. It allows you to save all settings for one click TS access and set the screen to 'full-screen' and will resize according to device AND layout!
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Ah yes, another thumbs up for this one, Xtralogic that is! Absolutely top notch in my book. Well worth the 25 bucks if you plan on using it often.
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are you selling any of those 3
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+1 for LogMeIn Ignition for Android. I used to lug around my crazy heavy laptop when I traveled for business and now I leave it logged in at the office and access it via my gTab using LogMeIn. It works great and has plenty of folks using it if you need a question answered or issue resolved.
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The biggest selling points for me, outside of my nearly everyday use of LogMeIn, are multiplatform support, ease-of-use, and integration with an existing workflow. Mac or PC, I've never had problems. Couple that with ConnectBot (which I use to do CLI-based Linux admin) and the Linode and Rackspace Cloud clients for Android, and I'm pretty much set anywhere I have WiFi to rock things out.
I <3 this tablet.
I must say after playing and tweaking my tab to my likings, I am nothing but pleased. Spent some time setting up LogMeIn and everything is running smoooothhh....like butta.
A few FC's but nothing to get all bent over.
Does anybody know of a remote client that actually works?
The only one I have found is impossible to use because the keyboard for entering address/id/pw is not even there to get started!
If I could get something like Pocket Cloud on here ... this thing would pay for itself.
I'm in the same boat as OP, I really need a windows rdp app for my touchpad
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I installed the ubuntu chroot on to the TouchPad. I then used the rdesktop application with tsclient frontend.
It actually works pretty well.
You even get a keyboard. No right click though..
This isn't out yet, but evidently it's getting close:
http://signup.splashtop.com/
great news
Can't wait - I am already using their remote desktop HD on android .
apparently out today - I've just bought a copy. Requires the use of a desktop streamer tho, so might not be your cuppa tea. Haven't finished installing yet but the reviews so far are nearly all 5/5 stars
I picked it up this morning. I've only tried it over the Internet so far because my work machine is on a private network while my TouchPad is only allowed on the guest network at work. Performance is still decent, but I've heard that on a LAN it screams (e.g., streaming video/audio works well). I'll set that up with my home machines in a bit.
I've seen a few people complaining about paying $10 for it...good lord...most of us paid $100-150 for the tablet and this effectively turns it into a portable remote terminal for $10! I know mobile computing apps have kind of redefined what we perceive as "value" with $0.99 apps, but if you're looking for a remote desktop-type app and this one isn't worth $10 for you, I'm really not sure what to tell you...
agreed SCWells72 - when I upgraded from PCAnywhere 11 to 12 back in the day so I could get the mobile app for my iPAQ that was about a hundred bucks, so spending $10 (about 7 quid in the UK) is peanuts. You're right - this is the last piece I needed for webOS to tick all my boxes.
Not yet sure if SplashTop supports file transfer, but that would be a massive advantage if it does!
Do anyone find that splashtop streamer too much of a resource hog? Unlike rdp, my computer is really slow.
Anyone know about what happened to 2x client?
Would be great if there was a linux alternative
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Do anyone find that splashtop streamer too much of a resource hog? Unlike rdp, my computer is really slow.
Anyone know about what happened to 2x client?
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Hmm. Would appreciate feedback as planning to run it as a service on underpowered Windows Home Server box...!
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agreed SCWells72 - when I upgraded from PCAnywhere 11 to 12 back in the day so I could get the mobile app for my iPAQ that was about a hundred bucks, so spending $10 (about 7 quid in the UK) is peanuts. You're right - this is the last piece I needed for webOS to tick all my boxes.
Not yet sure if SplashTop supports file transfer, but that would be a massive advantage if it does!
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No file transfer and it does scream locally. I have tried it on my isp's public wifi (my cable company offers g wifi across its footprint to customers) and found it very usable. Though Chrome browser and the two finger scrolling is PITA.
Going away with the wife and have decided that between smartphone and the touchpad, it will be enough tech to carry.
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Hey everyone,
I'm not sure if anyone will find this useful and I hope I'm posting in the correct place (I contemplated posting in Apps), but I just wanted to share my experiences with functional note-taking and doing actual work on theTr ansformer.
I'll start out by saying that I'm a science graduate student, so I am very reliant on technology for presentations, research, classes, teaching, etc. So my needs from a laptop (or laptop replacement) are pretty well-defined. So I just wanted to share some of my experiences.
I went through a multitude of apps for desktop sharing: the included MyDesktop, Splashtop Remote Desktop HD, Remote Desktop Client, Android VNC Viewer, and DroidServer(Beta). And in my humble opinion, they all sucked. They would give choppy video, randomly disconnect, hog bandwidth, and frequently force close. Yes, there were all fun for the novelty, but not actually useful business tools. Remote Desktop Client was perhaps the best, but with the steep $25.00 USD price tag, its not a choice I was willing to make without exploring everything fully.
Finally, I found 2X Remote Desktop Client. It matches the great functionality and usability of Remote Desktop Client, but without the steep price tag (it's free!). The only quirk I've found so far in my testing is that sound can not be played on my Transformer, but that could just be a specific issue to me. Make sure you take a look at what OS's can be accessed (I believe its Windows, and Windows emulators only because of its method of connection). By connecting through the "Remote Desktop" feature built into Windows, you actually get a responsive, good quality desktop streaming experience which was nearly impossible with the other applications.
By combining this app with OneNote on the computer I'm streaming, I've turned my Transformer into a note taking beast! Touchscreen OneNote is a little slow (as you have to press for 500ms before Windows registers it as a "drag" to actually write), but there is no lag whatsoever and I am quite happy.
I really hope this post can help someone who, like me, really believed the Transformer could do more but couldn't find any reliable options to make it work. And no, I have no affiliation with this app, I'm just a very satisfied customer.
The post count of the OP and tone of the post makes me a bit weary (infomercially)...but I will give it a shot.
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I found 2X Remote Desktop Client.
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Been using it for a couple weeks now, it has fully replaced PocketCloud for me. Never tried to use sound via it (as I only really use RDP from it to access a work server when on-site with clients), but for general RDP use it works a treat
haha i guess i can see the informercial-ness, but in my defense I joined specifically to post about the app since I went through almost two months of looking for an alternative and wasted money on apps that weren't nearly as good....just trying to prevent that for someone else if i can
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haha i guess i can see the informercial-ness, but in my defense I joined specifically to post about the app since I went through almost two months of looking for an alternative and wasted money on apps that weren't nearly as good....just trying to prevent that for someone else if i can
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i tested all the free rdp apps and 2x was my choice too. The sound is the only thing I miss, otherwise it works just fine.
ye i have been using it for some time. i find it the best aswell.
Excuse my ignorant, but what does this do? I can never understand all those acronyms: VNC, RDP, etc.
SwiftLegend said:
Excuse my ignorant, but what does this do? I can never understand all those acronyms: VNC, RDP, etc.
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It lets you access a desktop with your tablet or phone. The desktop has to be set up to allow remote access though.
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It lets you access a desktop with your tablet or phone. The desktop has to be set up to allow remote access though.
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Oh cool. Thanks, may have to try this out then
Can't you already do this with Splashtop that comes pre-installed on TF ?
I've tried this, but mycloud still streams videos and games to my TF allot faster than the x2. Are you guys doing anything different to make x2 stream quicker?
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really? The MyCloud software was always really laggy for me. I just assumed it was because it (along with the VNC clients) was running from a program installed on the host computer and not from something built in to the operating system...
i actually have two connections defined for each remote computer I want to connect to: one has all themeing, backgrounds, and animation enabled for when I'm on my work wireless network, and another that disables everything for when I'm sharing the 3G connection from my phone.
I haven't had any delay whatsoever even with the "broadband" connection when i'm on my work or home network or even on my phone if I have full 3G signal. But its nice to have the "mobile" connection defined if my internet signal isn't that great. It sacrifices all the eye-candy but still delivers on speed for me
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Can't you already do this with Splashtop that comes pre-installed on TF ?
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I have NEVER heard of Splashtop being pre installed on the TF. I just watched the market price and waited for them to do a half price sale and bought it for $5 instead of the normal $10 that it is.
Splashtop has always worked well for me..
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scottch699 said:
I have NEVER heard of Splashtop being pre installed on the TF. I just watched the market price and waited for them to do a half price sale and bought it for $5 instead of the normal $10 that it is.
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Hope you bought the HD version. You can access the preinstalled copy of splashtop by going to MyCloud, then My Desktop (middle tab) - resolution is a bit limited though, so presumably it isthe SD/phone version.
Was using Wyse pocketcloud as well, but very happy with 2X after installing on the advice of his thread
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I have NEVER heard of Splashtop being pre installed on the TF. I just watched the market price and waited for them to do a half price sale and bought it for $5 instead of the normal $10 that it is.
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It has ALWAYS been pre-installed (under MyCloud)
SplashTop (MyCloud) has always come preinstalled, but I've never liked using it. Why install a program on your computer to allow remote connections when Windows has this functionality already built in? I'd consider it if SplashTop offered some sort of encryption of the remote connection as normally RDP is unencrypted. But AFAIK SplashTop doesn't offer that either so why reinvent the wheel? I like manually tunneling RDP over SSH so that it's encrypted and AFAIK SplashTop can't be configured that way.
Personally, I use Wyse PocketCloud Free (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.wyse.pocketcloudfree&feature=related_apps) and couldn't be happier. Does 2x Remote Desktop Client offer any features which PocketCloud doesn't? Always open to alternatives, though I'm more than happy with how PocketCloud works as is.
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I have NEVER heard of Splashtop being pre installed on the TF. I just watched the market price and waited for them to do a half price sale and bought it for $5 instead of the normal $10 that it is.
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I couldn't find it on my Transformer either. I bought the Splashtop HD and it works great on my home Wi-Fi. Haven't attempted it over the Internet yet though.
Kumabjorn said:
I couldn't find it on my Transformer either. I bought the Splashtop HD and it works great on my home Wi-Fi. Haven't attempted it over the Internet yet though.
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I've tried it. Works great.
Artood2s said:
I've tried it. Works great.
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Agreed, great app.
Also try teamviewer, its free and works well.
If you have these devices its awesome. I like to download torrents on Android while I await a torrent app for our surface. Then I can connect Surface to S3 using Kies and having Surface tethered to S3 using hotspot allows me to stream or download all my content along with access all my phone info. Love it. So far love my Surface. Ordered it on 23rd here in Michigan and received it this morning. 32GB with black touch cover.
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Kies is a x86 app . And not compatible with windows RT . Unless Samsung make the app on windows store and is compatible with RT.
He is not talking about the x86 app that is available for windows, instead using the Kies app on the device which broadcasts an IP address that you can connect to within IE.
I have a SGN and a Surface, I will try this tonight
Oo . Sry my bad :/
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He is not talking about the x86 app that is available for windows, instead using the Kies app on the device which broadcasts an IP address that you can connect to within IE.
I have a SGN and a Surface, I will try this tonight
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R u saying its like internet tethering??
You have to either be tethered to your phone using the mobile hotspot or on the same Wi-Fi network. Then open the kies app on phone and hit start. it will then give you an IP address to type in your surface browser and boom!
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:/ sounds complicated .
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:/ sounds complicated .
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As complicated as punching in a phone number.
If you can navigate a Windows 8 OS then what I' am mentioning is very simple.
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Try airdroid. Better and faster than kies Air.
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gitanshu said:
Try airdroid. Better and faster than kies Air.
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You've obviously never used Windows RT. While it may not have as many apps as Android, yet, the UI is much faster and smoother. I am not sure about the Surface, but the Asus Vivo Tab RT is awesome & I have some pretty great Android devices and have enjoyed the Android experience very much. That said, my RT tab lasts 3 times longer than any Android device including the Nexus 7, has a great screen & is very responsive. I have not had to reset the device at all, not once, in more than two weeks & it holds it's charge for days on end.
Sure, it is missing some cool apps, but a lot of that is because we have all gotten used to apps from Android & iOS. With the full browser experience & integration of social networking into the native "People" app, many of the Apps you "NEED" for iOS & Android are unnecessary.
I can almost guarantee that when Windows tabs have been out as long as Android has been, it will be much more capable than Android was at the same elapsed time since release. Everyone said Android wouldn't make it, "it didn't have as many apps as iPhone" & look where it is. RT started out of the box way ahead of what Android did in terms of function & stability. Again, I am referencing the Asus Vivo, which has LED flash, NFC & GPS capability. The surface is nice, but after my Nexus 7 experience & with the additional features, I had to stick with Asus.
Without apps, I will say that at this point, Android in general is better for entertainment. But neither Android or iOS comes even close to the RT tabs for those of us that work on the road in conjunction with teams that include sales, support & engineering professionals. Full PowerPoint function that includes viewing notes while in presentation mode is priceless. Add that to the "mirror", "extend" & "individual" monitor choices that mirror a laptop & those are just two small features out of many that make it a clear winner for road warriors.
your sliding scale of timeframe comparisons won't work.
4 years starting at x date vs 4 years LATER starting at y date means anyone with a billion dollar software company can reproduce fedatures. see, apple - notifications, android - full office suites, microsoft rt - uhhhh something in 4 years.
I hear microsoft is announcing plan B already, incase surface tanks: office (for sale) for android and ios. problem is (again) its too little, too late. people already have office suites that work just fine , without subscriptions, without fees, without changes that make yesterdays word document incompatible.
Just wanted to put this out there.
Airdroid =\= Android.
Airdrops is an app that let's you transfer files wirelessly. Not an os.
I tried to do this with my sg3..i just get a blank white page on the surface.
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Nevermind....I forgot that I had to accept the connection from my phone.
I have 500 bucks to spend and am hesitating between getting either the Surface or a nexus 7 + a chromebook. For those who have had some experience with those devices, what do you think would be a better way to go? I am honestly hesitating between the two choices.
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The Chromebook really doesn't enthuse me...I don't completely think that its existence is justified yet. It depends how you consider the convenience of two devices vs one.
What are you planning on doing? Will you type a lot? Integrate the products into an existing Windows 8/Android phone ecosystem? Watch movies and videos? Games? Travel with it, or are they devices for home? Will you carry a Nexus 7 around alongside your Chromebook?
Personally, I'd look at the range of Atom-based Windows 8 Pro hybrid tablets. They get better battery and performance than the Surface RT, and have access to all Windows applications of the past. There's heaps from every OEM, and I don't know your exact price-point, so I can't really make a recommendation.
I don't agree re: the Atom systems providing better performance and battery than the surface. I've used an Atom Windows machine and it was a dog and the battery life was comparable to a PC.
I do agree regarding understanding just what you are going to use it for.
Are you a student? An office worker?
Are you watching movies? Playing games? Just browsing the web?
Are you going to need any Office document editing?
The Nexus is going to give you the best app ecosystem and access to Google Play books, movies, and music. The Chromebook is basically just an android tablet in a laptop form factor (with some limitations).
The Surface is more of a PC with some restrictions but doesn't benefit from the Google Play Store. It does have access to the XBox ecosystem but it is not as extensive as Google offerings (yet?).
I have Android tablets and an iPad and in the week I've had the Surface I have found the Surface to have more utility than any other tablet I've owned, but I look at things from a work standpoint. I don't play games or use "apps" on a tablet. I need them on my phone (which is why I have an Android phone).
Thanks for your input. I had the transformer prime but returned it because of a screen that went really bad. I am planning to go to school and was wondering which device (surface or chromebook) would help more on the go (I have a 17" Toshiba at home). I don't play much on my tablet but I like to watch movies on Netflix and videos online and browse the web. I am leaning toward the surface, I guess I am looking for assurance that I won't be disappointed.
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Wendemixda said:
Thanks for your input. I had the transformer prime but returned it because of a screen that went really bad. I am planning to go to school and was wondering which device (surface or chromebook) would help more on the go (I have a 17" Toshiba at home). I don't play much on my tablet but I like to watch movies on Netflix and videos online and browse the web. I am leaning toward the surface, I guess I am looking for assurance that I won't be disappointed.
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That's an impossible assurance, but if this is for school, I think Surface is the way to go. They have a no-restock 14 day return policy. Worst case scenario, you can buy it, use it, and if you don't like it, return it.
Surface already has Netflix, Hulu, Kindle, and supports Amazon Instant Video via the web browser.
If you need Office, then get the Surface. I've tried just about every word processor/spread sheet app on android and none of them come close to the real thing. The Touch Cover and the way it's integrated is also vastly superior to any keyboard peripheral I've used on my android tablets.
If you do work with a lot of PDF's though be warned that right now you're pretty much stuck with converting them into office docs for now, the pdf reader that comes with the Surface barely has any functionality beyond the ability to open and read them, and there aren't any alternatives on the market yet.
As for netflix, hulu and web surfing it's all there. The Surface uses the desktop version of IE10 and as far as I know, it's the only new tablet to have flash support. Subjectively speaking I've found it to be just as fast as Chrome on Android 4.1.1, while I like the way Chrome renders some websites better, IE10 will always pull the desktop version of websites and does a much better job with animated gifs and embedded video.
hoodoomagic said:
If you need Office, then get the Surface. I've tried just about every word processor/spread sheet app on android and none of them come close to the real thing. The Touch Cover and the way it's integrated is also vastly superior to any keyboard peripheral I've used on my android tablets.
If you do work with a lot of PDF's though be warned that right now you're pretty much stuck with converting them into office docs for now, the pdf reader that comes with the Surface barely has any functionality beyond the ability to open and read them, and there aren't any alternatives on the market yet.
As for netflix, hulu and web surfing it's all there. The Surface uses the desktop version of IE10 and as far as I know, it's the only new tablet to have flash support. Subjectively speaking I've found it to be just as fast as Chrome on Android 4.1.1, while I like the way Chrome renders some websites better, IE10 will always pull the desktop version of websites and does a much better job with animated gifs and embedded video.
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I find the built in pdf reader more than capable. I work with large pdfs for work and with the options menu at the bottom I can search , find bookmarks, highlight and add notes. What else do you want from a reader?
The only other thing I need is a pdf driver to create pdfs on the go but that is a different app.
guitar1969 said:
I find the built in pdf reader more than capable. I work with large pdfs for work and with the options menu at the bottom I can search , find bookmarks, highlight and add notes. What else do you want from a reader?
The only other thing I need is a pdf driver to create pdfs on the go but that is a different app.
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You're right, I was a too quick to judge and missed a lot of things that the stock reader is capable of doing. I'm used to using ez-pdf on android and that throws a lot of options in your face and was thrown off by the cleaner interface of the ms reader. I still can't figure out how to quickly get to a page though, and a night mode would be nice.
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I still can't figure out how to quickly get to a page though
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mk1151 said:
The Chromebook is basically just an android tablet in a laptop form factor (with some limitations).
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Except that it isn't that at all!
No Android whatsoever in the Chromebook.
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Dave
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foxmeister said:
Except that it isn't that at all!
No Android whatsoever in the Chromebook.
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Dave
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correct, chromeOS doesn't share app stores with android, so no apps aside for the ones built specifically for that OS (which is just a fullscreen chrome browser)
aside from the rock bottom pricing for a basic use computer, i don't see the point of the chromebook at all.