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http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-U...5657549133QQcategoryZ2456QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-i-Mate-JASJ...374836117QQcategoryZ93508QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
everything in his ebay store which appears to be based in italy is $354.00 US or $300 EU, which he claims is brand new but the minimum order has to be 2 units.
Anyone know if this guy is for real? Cause That's a pretty wicked price if it's brand new, one could order 2 and sell one for like $600 US and make a profit or get a friend to buy one with you. I'm just wondering if this is too good to be true, all his feedback is positive tho...
Personally, I wouldn't trust it. It seems too good to be true... also, why is the same guy using two different ebay accounts to sell? There's no way I'd hand over that much money to someone with 6 feedback.
My 2c.
The above eBay auctions are definitely scams. There are no payment methods listed, no feedback for sales (only purchases) and the user has almost certainly hi-jacked these two accounts to use in the scam.
The old adage still applies: "If it's too good to be true, it probably is."
I can't believe it, so i just received my gTablet from Amazon, and this is what I received. What a SOB, I wonder how many people fall for this and don't realize that its a fake.
Any advice on how to get my money back without any hassles, because the guy is probably long gone by now.
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I can't believe it, so i just received my gTablet from Amazon, and this is what I received. What a SOB, I wonder how many people fall for this and don't realize that its a fake.
Any advice on how to get my money back without any hassles, because the guy is probably long gone by now.
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WTF! This is definitely a SCAM!
Sorry you got taken.
I have always found Amazon to be extremely helpful. Anytime I call them to complain/return something, they tell me to keep it and then refund my money anyway. I have gotten a lot of free stuff over the years.
It may take you some hunting to find the phone number for Amazon customer service, but it could be well worth it. I would give it to you but I have it at work and have only called them from there.
However, the fact that the marketplace covers independent sellers means you are taking your chances in a lot of cases. I only buy from people who are enough of a partner that Amazon does the free shipping and I have never been disappointed.
Good luck!
Ouch! That sucks. I'd recommend contacting Amazon's fraud department and their customer service department and seeing about what recourse is available to you. If they're unhelpful (though I doubt they will be as I find their customer service to generally be pretty good), there's always that friendly little thing called a chargeback which tends to inspire greatness from companies to help you.
It could just be an honest mistake. If you assume that Amazon ships 100,000 items each day, and that they have an efficiency rate of 99.999 % of items correctly delivered, then at least one person is sure to receive a wrong item in the mail.
The more items you ship, the more someone is bound to get something they didn't order even with phenomenally accurate item tracking. Amazon is generally very nice about this sort of thing. If they determine that it is their mistake, and if you live outside the US, and the return cost is excessive, they generally tell you to keep the mis-shipped item and then send the correct one along free of charge in a few weeks.
That item looks like the ZT-180 I bought off Amazon some time back. And yeah it sux huevos alright.
Was there an order slip inside the box from the seller? If so & it says Viewsonic G-Tablet then I highly doubt it was a mistake.
The main problem is that it wasn't directly from amazon, it was from a third party merchant on their site. So it makes things just a little bit more complicated and time consuming. I doubt it was a honest mistake, after checking the sellers profile I saw he had like 90% negative feedback.
After calling Amazon(good idea BTW I was starting to get scared), they assured me that if the seller didn't help me out, that I would get a full refund. So I guess that's good news. I just hate to go through the hassle, and wait even longer for my tablet, I just wanna play with it already.
I hope woot! has another deal soon...
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The main problem is that it wasn't directly from amazon, it was from a third party merchant on their site. So it makes things just a little bit more complicated and time consuming. I doubt it was a honest mistake, after checking the sellers profile I saw he had like 90% negative feedback.
After calling Amazon(good idea BTW I was starting to get scared), they assured me that if the seller didn't help me out, that I would get a full refund. So I guess that's good news. I just hate to go through the hassle, and wait even longer for my tablet, I just wanna play with it already.
I hope woot! has another deal soon...
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Yeah, like I said - Amazon has NEVER done me wrong.
Here is someone who may be interested in letting theirs go for a deal http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090546
Bestwholesalegem?
I filed a claim too, but haven't gotten it in the mail yet...figured it was a scam 2 weeks after ordering so i went out and bought one anyway
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I can't believe it, so i just received my gTablet from Amazon, and this is what I received. What a SOB, I wonder how many people fall for this and don't realize that its a fake.
Any advice on how to get my money back without any hassles, because the guy is probably long gone by now.
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It looks like the little Army guy had too much to drink there
Was it from bestwholesalegem? I ordered one too. Im sure it will not be an actual g tablet tho.
However i did read this today
"If the buyer has received an item that is materially different and have not received a response from you with return instructions, he or she may file a Guarantee claim for the purchase. Once a customer is reimbursed for an order via the A-to-z Guarantee, Amazon.com does not obligate that customer to return the item they received. However, you are welcome to contact your customer directly to arrange for a return of the item."
Quoted from the amazon sellers claim faq
If you can get around the whole moral issue i guess you might end up with a free chinese knock off tablet to make up for your lost time.
Or the seller will ask you to ship it back. In that case its up to you either just ignore him and keep it (which you legally can), or ask him to pay for return shipping (you can include price of gas/"handling") and ship it back. He probably wont be willing to pay the 30-40$ for shipping anyway.
Yea the seller was bestwholesalegem I see some of you were also tempted by the low price. I wonder how much much money he maid off with ...
Well I'm gonna file a claim now, and see if I get a response from the seller. I was so relived when I saw that the purchase was backed by the Amazon A-Z Guarantee.
Time to look for a new one I guess.
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I doubt it was a honest mistake, after checking the sellers profile I saw he had like 90% negative feedback.
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How does a seller with 90% negative feedback sell anything to anyone?
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How does a seller with 90% negative feedback sell anything to anyone?
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... there's one born every minute
dfin13 said:
How does a seller with 90% negative feedback sell anything to anyone?
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He was a new seller and had no feedback when he started selling. I'm a seller on Amazon as well and we all start with nothing. The price wasn't drastically better than everything else ($269.99 + shipping), and you're not taking a monetary risk buying through Amazon, only a risk of inconvenience.
i am interested to know how you claim goes
and how long it takes for it to resolve
I'm interested also as I was one of the ones that received one of those tablets. Since before I ordered from him I ask what the return policy was. He assured me I had 30 days to return the item if I was not happy with it. It came in, I opened it and immediately fired a email off to him advising him I was returning it as it was not what I ordered. He wanted to give me a credit, but I held out for the money refund. I have all the emails to back up what the conversations between us was for Amazon if I have to file a claim with them.
Good luck and hope you get your money back.
I have sold a few items on Amazon and I know thet they keep the money for a while, they don't transfer it automatically to the seller account - especially if you are new to them.
So Amazon doesn't loose nothing, you get to keep the knock-off. Just act right away, don't wait 2 weeks...
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Sorry you got taken.
I only buy from people who are enough of a partner that Amazon does the free shipping and I have never been disappointed.
Good luck!
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This is a good policy to go by, because these items are shipped by Amazon's warehouse team and all returns go straight to Amazon. There is no need to deal with the merchant. HOWEVER as an Amazon Merchant let me warn you that there is no special approval needed to sell like this. The program is called Fulfillment by Amazon, and any brand new merchant can sign up. Also Amazon doesn't verify that the units shipped through this program are genuine.
Just thought you should know.
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He wanted to give me a credit
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This should tell you your report was nothing surprising to him.
I wouldn't bother with trying to resolve this with him, go straight to amazon and remember to leave him the appropriate feedback.
Well I figure my first post should be a big moan on the subject of eBay.
I'm currently -£750 waiting on refunds for 2 Galaxy s4 phones that I tried to buy on eBay... the first auction had a slightly dodgy feel but I figured it was worth the risk for the potential of a good deal, turns out I should have trusted my initial gut instinct, about 10 minutes after I paid for it I got a message from eBay saying the listing had been removed as the seller was a compromised account, and that I no longer have to pay for the item. Annoyingly I still have to wait till next week before I can escalate it and get my refund.
Second one seemed a legit deal, seemed like an unwanted upgrade ( I know there is a degree of risk there too but, my last phone was one and I've had no issues), legit photos... item arrived on Monday all seemed in working order, spent all day Tuesday researching which mod to go with, re-learning the whole rooting/firmware/recovery upgrade processes, loading my apps, configuring them all etc , Micro-sim arrived Wednesday, but for whatever reason wouldn't register on the mobile network so I went to the carrier's shop.... I'm sure you all know where this is going, the phone's IMEI is on the blacklist, so I've had to spend the last few hours convincing the seller to refund me, of course I now have to send it back at my own expense and it probably won't arrive till Monday at which point I have to trust he'll refund me in a timely fashion, or I'll have to escalate again..... argh, what a head ache!
I must confess before all this I didn't know about all these possible pitfalls, I wish eBay had some more upfront guidance on risks of the phones being sold being blacklisted, I didn't even know such a list existed, ah well live and learn I guess.
For the limited time I had the phone I was loving it for it's none call related features, I'll just have to buy my next one from a legit source and hope for 3rd time lucky!
Anyhow, hi, hopefully my future posts will be more positive.
Feel sorry for you there buddy... I got mine too from a reseller, but we met upfront. Its been 10 weeks now and my s4 is still kicking. Its really a lot better if you're getting an expensive piece of hardware from a legit source...
tonyr80 said:
Well I figure my first post should be a big moan on the subject of eBay.
I'm currently -£750 waiting on refunds for 2 Galaxy s4 phones that I tried to buy on eBay... the first auction had a slightly dodgy feel but I figured it was worth the risk for the potential of a good deal, turns out I should have trusted my initial gut instinct, about 10 minutes after I paid for it I got a message from eBay saying the listing had been removed as the seller was a compromised account, and that I no longer have to pay for the item. Annoyingly I still have to wait till next week before I can escalate it and get my refund.
Second one seemed a legit deal, seemed like an unwanted upgrade ( I know there is a degree of risk there too but, my last phone was one and I've had no issues), legit photos... item arrived on Monday all seemed in working order, spent all day Tuesday researching which mod to go with, re-learning the whole rooting/firmware/recovery upgrade processes, loading my apps, configuring them all etc , Micro-sim arrived Wednesday, but for whatever reason wouldn't register on the mobile network so I went to the carrier's shop.... I'm sure you all know where this is going, the phone's IMEI is on the blacklist, so I've had to spend the last few hours convincing the seller to refund me, of course I now have to send it back at my own expense and it probably won't arrive till Monday at which point I have to trust he'll refund me in a timely fashion, or I'll have to escalate again..... argh, what a head ache!
I must confess before all this I didn't know about all these possible pitfalls, I wish eBay had some more upfront guidance on risks of the phones being sold being blacklisted, I didn't even know such a list existed, ah well live and learn I guess.
For the limited time I had the phone I was loving it for it's none call related features, I'll just have to buy my next one from a legit source and hope for 3rd time lucky!
Anyhow, hi, hopefully my future posts will be more positive.
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I reccomend this seller, i ve bought 2 S3's from him, all perfect, sealed box and great shipping speed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181145259142?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Just to top off my day my brother came round and stole my last beer when I was out for a run, fml!
Thanks for the sympathy and recommendation though guys.
Just wondered what you paid for the phones.if you don't mind. How much did you think you were saving over buying from a shop?
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Just wondered what you paid for the phones.if you don't mind. How much did you think you were saving over buying from a shop?
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The first one was £370, and was apparently a 32gb model, that should have been my first warning signal as I've since learned the 32gb model isn't for sale in the UK yet.
The second went for £380 and included a 32gb memory card, so I felt like I was getting a 70-80ish quid saving?
I feel for you! Ebay can be a great bargain grabbing experience but there are some sharks lurking about. Hope you get both your refunds and put it down to experience..... I love technology but wouldn't risk not having a backed warranty on an item as expensive as an S4.
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I feel for you! Ebay can be a great bargain grabbing experience but there are some sharks lurking about. Hope you get both your refunds and put it down to experience..... I love technology but wouldn't risk not having a backed warranty on an item as expensive as an S4.
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Yea I've found a seller who is selling for £410 and providing a valid receipt, I think that's a safe price point to purchase at.
I bought my S4 on ebay last week for £400 incl and it was supposed to be in a sealed box, fully unlocked and an unwanted upgrade.
It was still sealed, but was locked to O2 and the seller insisted that O2 had promised him it would unlock in 3-5 days.
I said I couldn't wait, unlocked it myself & asked for a £25 refund as this was what a shop would charge to unlock it for me!! He gave it to me. :victory:
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I bought my S4 on ebay last week for £400 incl and it was supposed to be in a sealed box, fully unlocked and an unwanted upgrade.
It was still sealed, but was locked to O2 and the seller insisted that O2 had promised him it would unlock in 3-5 days.
I said I couldn't wait, unlocked it myself & asked for a £25 refund as this was what a shop would charge to unlock it for me!! He gave it to me. :victory:
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Nice one.
I got my S4 from eBay too. For £370.it was on o2 as well. Got an unlock code from a website for £15 that's permanently unlocked it.
I've been very happy. And lucky in my eBay experiences.
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Up until this happened I'd had 200+ transactions without 1 issue, then 2 back to back....
My S1 was off eBay, was a bargain and has never caused me one issue.
I am however a bit wary of unwanted upgrades after learning they could be blacklisted if they end their contract prematurely, if that happens a year later I doubt there's anything you could do about it.
I was actually worried about buying a FAKE S4, i.e. something else masquerading as an S4.
Do these exist, or is it just me being paranoid?
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I was actually worried about buying a FAKE S4, i.e. something else masquerading as an S4.
Do these exist, or is it just me being paranoid?
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They exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
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They exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
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Having watching this clip, I was worried for a few seconds until I read the comments!
Mine has all the comments about being fake...no logo, yellow camera....instead the "fake" is the international version! :laugh:
You just have to see if the savings you are getting are more than the risk involved
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I have wondered about Amazon market sales, whether it is more reliable/secure a method of obtaining a good deal, I wonder does anyone on here have any experience of it?
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I have wondered about Amazon market sales, whether it is more reliable/secure a method of obtaining a good deal, I wonder does anyone on here have any experience of it?
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Generally Amazon is more trustworthy than eBay, especially if it says 'fulfilled by amazon' or it's sold by official stores (AnkerOfficial and stuff like that) - you can tell if they have a very high rating and their descriptions are written fluently (you should be able to tell between the chinese/whatever sellers and official stores).
BUT, there are many fakes on Amazon too.
Feel sorry for you buddy. I got mine from a website called Kogan. It costed me 689 AU dollars including shipping fee. It is quite cheap and it arrived a week after i paid. More importantly, it is not second handed or reselling product.
i too purchased an s3 that was an unwanted phone, i had a gut feeling it was dodgy but thought ebay would protect me if it was dodgy
how wrong was i
phone never sent, money gone
all ebay could do was email them as i payed by bank deposit. even police online fraud cant force them to pay back the money and a bank tranfser reversal doesnt work if they deny it
2 months on still trying for refund while there still buying stuff
ended up buying an S4 I9505 off kogan for $620 inc 32gm micro sd and freight couldnt justify paying $460 for an S3 when the S4 was going for that price
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i too purchased an s3 that was an unwanted phone, i had a gut feeling it was dodgy but thought ebay would protect me if it was dodgy
how wrong was i
phone never sent, money gone
all ebay could do was email them as i payed by bank deposit. even police online fraud cant force them to pay back the money and a bank tranfser reversal doesnt work if they deny it
2 months on still trying for refund while there still buying stuff
ended up buying an S4 I9505 off kogan for $620 inc 32gm micro sd and freight couldnt justify paying $460 for an S3 when the S4 was going for that price
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Yea, PayPal payment protection is a must on eBay, I'd never trust a transaction without it really.
As it is I gave eBay another go as I spotted a deal that looked legit and unlikely to be a bad phone, got myself a new i19505, sealed box and with a receipt, £360. Pretty happy with that! Also got my money back from the 2 other bad deals, yay.
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Why should we pay for review units? You say you'll be placing a refund, but why not just send out the review units without payment.
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Why should we pay for review units? You say you'll be placing a refund, but why not just send out the review units without payment.
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i agree,
pointless
Furthermore, this is the Note 9 forum! Not S9/SO+
The seller is looking for Amazon sales guys.
If he just sends out the unit, there is no guarantee that the people who hes sent them to will post a review but at least if they purchase then there is a record on Amazon of a sale which will also help him build his business.
He says they are offering them for free, but then why is he mentioning a refund via PayPal?
Ive been screwed by things like this before. Ordered something I didnt really need, went to go post a review so they would give me the money back, and Amazon blocked reviews, so I did not get my money back.
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Ive been screwed by things like this before. Ordered something I didnt really need, went to go post a review so they would give me the money back, and Amazon blocked reviews, so I did not get my money back.
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Yeah,I'd steer clear of this:
JMHO,the whole thing is disingenuous.
While technically they may be within the rules on Amazon,it's just semantics,they're seeking favorable reviews in exchange for goods vs. an honest/unsolicited opinion.
For relatively inexpensive items,reviews are worthless,as this paid endorsement tactic is used ad nauseam.
Amazon tries to keep it to a minimum,but,I imagine it's virtually impossible to stop it altogether.
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Yeah,I'd steer clear of this:
JMHO,the whole thing is disingenuous.
While technically they may be within the rules on Amazon,it's just semantics,they're seeking favorable reviews in exchange for goods vs. an honest/unsolicited opinion.
For relatively inexpensive items,reviews are worthless,as this paid endorsement tactic is used ad nauseam.
Amazon tries to keep it to a minimum,but,I imagine it's virtually impossible to stop it altogether.
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I got in contact with the OP and received an email directly from Choetech regarding the free review unit. I placed the order and provided them with my Amazon order number and they sent me my refund via PayPal within 24 hours. I definitely understand the hesitation but what do you have to loose? If they were to stiff you after placing the order you could just send it back to Amazon for free and get refunded.
Any-who I now have a Free USB C to HDMI cable that I will take to work and use my Note9's DeX with.
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I got in contact with the OP and received an email directly from Choetech regarding the free review unit. I placed the order and provided them with my Amazon order number and they sent me my refund via PayPal within 24 hours. I definitely understand the hesitation but what do you have to loose? If they were to stiff you after placing the order you could just send it back to Amazon for free and get refunded.
Any-who I now have a Free USB C to HDMI cable that I will take to work and use my Note9's DeX with.
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My problem isn't with getting free gear, it's the whole thing of Choetech circumventing the rating/review process.
Why not just have a drawing/contest, something with a smidgen of appearing to be on the up & up?
The fact that they're working around the payments is proof that they are expecting a favorable review in exchange for freebies. Not the best way to instill confidence in their product ratings....
If they were so confident in their products, they wouldn't be resorting to this tactic, they'd let legitimate buyers input their own unsolicited reviews without any quid pro quo, or, appearance of it.
I know they're not the only ones that use this tactic, but, since they went as far as starting a thread on the subject, I went ahead & posted my 2¢ on the subject.
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My problem isn't with getting free gear, it's the whole thing of Choetech circumventing the rating/review process.
Why not just have a drawing/contest, something with a smidgen of appearing to be on the up & up?
The fact that they're working around the payments is proof that they are expecting a favorable review in exchange for freebies. Not the best way to instill confidence in their product ratings....
If they were so confident in their products, they wouldn't be resorting to this tactic, they'd let legitimate buyers input their own unsolicited reviews without any quid pro quo, or, appearance of it.
I know they're not the only ones that use this tactic, but, since they went as far as starting a thread on the subject, I went ahead & posted my 2¢ on the subject.
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Yeah, feels a tad dirty. They make decent stuff though. I've gotten a few Choetech things over the years and it's always been quality stuff. I actually have one of their USB-C to HDMI adapters and it works great.
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Yeah, feels a tad dirty. They make decent stuff though. I've gotten a few Choetech things over the years and it's always been quality stuff. I actually have one of their USB-C to HDMI adapters and it works great.
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That's the sad part about this,it's unnecessary.
I did a bit of Googling on the company & AFAICT,they can get by on the merits/quality of products alone w/o the quid pro quo.
You'd be hard-pressed to find someone in the forums who hasn't heard of Choetech,I think they'd do better to have a sponsored article here @ XDA on occasion,if they feel they need to further market to the membership here.
It'd likely reach a wider audience & have have an equal if not better bang-for-the buck vs the quid pro quo in the OP w/o the baggage.
I received this in the mail this morning re a Note 9 case I returned. I know this has been occurring for some years on Amazon but I still was surprised by the stupidity of this person. I will not publish the name of the company here but ....
Hi Peter,
Happy Tuesday Morning.
This is xyz from ABC case. How are you these days? Hope you are fine!
May I ask if you received our last email?
We are contacting you for the review you left to us on the date: July 31, 2019
We are sorry to hear your 2 problems about our case, 1 is the inner TPU case. 2 is the smell.
We understand you do not satisfied with this case, and we get contact with you and want to provide with the solutions and issued you the full refund. While after check your order, we find Amazon has issued the full refund.
On the Amazon.com, 1,2,3 stars would be a negative review which means customers are not satisfied with their purchase. Customer satisfaction is very important to us. As a small business, your review goes a long way with this case until it stops selling. Your review is so important for this case and maybe the efforts of all our workers are in vain because of a review.
Could you please do us a favor to take a few minutes to delete the review if we pay you another CAD$30 commission via paypal?.
I hope that even our product failed but our customer service won't. We hope we were able to sufficiently assist with this matter and would appreciate your understanding and consideration.
Thank you so much for your kind understanding!
Looking forward to your reply.
Sincerely,
Cases like these are unfortunate, but to some extent expected especially on platforms that aren't as tightly moderated. If you felt being petty, the seller's reaction alone would warrant a 1 or 2 star review, but you should probably stick with your 3 star review and just report the seller to Amazon if you didn't already.
On a side note, are you sure this post belongs here? Aside from the article sold being a Note 9 case, I don't see any further relation to this subforum.
I've had that happen a couple times. I reported them to Amazon, took their free gifts, if they sent any and left my bad reviews of their products. I made no promises to change reviews.
I learned from eBay that these seller care more about the rating than they do the money for that product.
You get much better support from them if you say you'll have to give them a bad review.