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I'm running the latest honeysense on my inspire. I was reading about flashing different radios and changing the clock speed. What are the benefits from these modifications and where can i find a good guide on how to do it?
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skatin707 said:
I'm running the latest honeysense on my inspire. I was reading about flashing different radios and changing the clock speed. What are the benefits from these modifications and where can i find a good guide on how to do it?
I'm a super noob, recently set free from Apple's oppression
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Well, there's a lot of info regarding over/underclocking. Searching will provide you with probably more than you'll know what to do with.
As applies to the ROM you're running, the best and most relevant discussion would likely be in the honeysense ROM thread itself.
I know browsing through pages of posts doesn't sound appealing, but it really is a good idea when it comes to this stuff, to get a feel for what others have been doing in this area with that particular ROM.
Now, as far as radios, often times there'll be a radio recommended for a rom, that recommendation could be the result of any number of things.
The stock OTA radio often ends up working the most reliably across a lot of roms. If you're not experiencing any issues with signal quality/data speeds, there really isn't any need to mess with it.
Even after flashing a new ROM, if performance in these areas seems to be degraded compared to your previous ROM, this can often times be addressed by making sure the RIL of the ROM is matched with your radio.
RILs change with each new ROM flash, radios do not. So a mismatch is a common occurrence and can cause radio performance issues, yet is easily remedied by flashing the appropriate RIL.
The inspire only radio thread has all the radio/rils/recommendations/instructions you need...over in the dev section.
skatin707 said:
I'm running the latest honeysense on my inspire. I was reading about flashing different radios and changing the clock speed. What are the benefits from these modifications and where can i find a good guide on how to do it?
I'm a super noob, recently set free from Apple's oppression
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RE: Overclocking the CPU
I think this is about the most elegant solution....I'm a CPU guy...so maybe overly weird I do not want some "App" running my over/underclock...This works...and 52 steps should be enough to figure out what works for you in conjunction with something like Llama to toggle the other stuff...JMHO....It is available on a few ROM's now i believe....run adb command though n actually see what clock steps are available: for some reason my cpu is missing a common speed step :-o. . bad qualcom bad
Edit: ooops the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14529333&postcount=5
Thanks for the replies guys. I've gotten through about 300 pages of the honey ROM thread. Very tedious and confusing LOL.
I live right up the road from Qualcomm, ill be sure to stop by and share your discontent
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I realize many of you see this as a dumb question. But I see a lot of posts about radios. I've tried looking around the web what it is but couldn't really find good explaining information. I see a lot of posts for flashing the radio and a lot of different versions.
I'm running MIUI on my Sensation 4G and if radio is something I need to flash then I want to know what it is before I try flashing and brick my phone. So I've managed to find the version I have so if someone can point me the right direction I'd be very grateful.
So the main question is - WHAT IS RADIO?
So this is what I got
Radio - 10.14.9035.01_M
the radio pretty much just has to do with the wireless connectivity of ur phone, so ur wifi, bluetooth, 3g all controlled by your phones radio.
you shouldnt have to flash a new radio for every rom, if your facing problems, and think a new radio could fix them then you could try a new radio if you wanted.
hope this helped
Lol oh yea definitely! very simply put too! I just was wondering why there's so many versions and chance of bricking dam thing.
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maxe30is said:
Lol oh yea definitely! very simply put too! I just was wondering why there's so many versions and chance of bricking dam thing.
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Flashing the radio is just about the only sure fire way of bricking it.. It's one of those things people are most skeptical about flashing. No nandroid will save you with an improperly flashed radio
EDIT: I've been flashing roms for a long time now and not once have I ever had to flash a new radio.
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OK. I installed the HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM days ago and have 2 major issues. As I am a new member, I am unable to post in the developmental section. Grateful for the OP to ask the question as I am also seeking to know "what radio is".
Although, I also want to ask - what is a kernel?
I believe thousands of members installed that HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM and I couldn't find any reference for bluetooth and mms issues.
My phone can only detect my Nokia phone, my Plantronics bluetooth M100 is undetectable.
I am also unable to send MMS and yes, I tried the original settings, called the network and played with different settings but problem persists.
I checked the Hardware Information of the phone and it says "Bluetooth address - unavailable"
Kernel is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. So basically kernel tells all the hardware what to do (overclocked processors, undervolted batteries and etc) So far best one I've tried for Sensation 4G is the 2.6.35.14 Trinity S4G. Processor is overclocked to 1.7Ghz from stock 1.2 Ghz and the battery life is great!
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OK. I installed the HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM days ago and have 2 major issues. As I am a new member, I am unable to post in the developmental section. Grateful for the OP to ask the question as I am also seeking to know "what radio is".
Although, I also want to ask - what is a kernel?
I believe thousands of members installed that HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM and I couldn't find any reference for bluetooth and mms issues.
My phone can only detect my Nokia phone, my Plantronics bluetooth M100 is undetectable.
I am also unable to send MMS and yes, I tried the original settings, called the network and played with different settings but problem persists.
I checked the Hardware Information of the phone and it says "Bluetooth address - unavailable"
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btw try wiping you sd card and then flashing the Rom. helped me few time (im no developer )
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Flashing the radio is just about the only sure fire way of bricking it.. It's one of those things people are most skeptical about flashing. No nandroid will save you with an improperly flashed radio
EDIT: I've been flashing roms for a long time now and not once have I ever had to flash a new radio.
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Obviously some radios are better than others?
Like the goal for man:
We want the best and we want it now.
Hardcore69er said:
Obviously some radios are better than others?
Like the goal for man:
We want the best and we want it now.
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Well that I'm not sure how accurate this statement is. That's why I started this thread just to know what it is. But from all the info I gathered online, you don't really need to flash a radio. Every thread with radios I saw that ppl will put a warning that you might brick your phone. So, my phone works great, never had any problems so I'll stay on the safe side (for now) and just do more research
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Well that I'm not sure how accurate this statement is. That's why I started this thread just to know what it is. But from all the info I gathered online, you don't really need to flash a radio. Every thread with radios I saw that ppl will put a warning that you might brick your phone. So, my phone works great, never had any problems so I'll stay on the safe side (for now) and just do more research
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Good decision..
Im rooted and I am about to flash a new kernel, Im not going to do any romming yet since the ICS update should be coming by the end of the month (should be). I was just wondering what is the best modem/radio for the skyrocket. I currently have UCLA3 and I live in Grand rapids, MI. I dont believe we get LTE here, but I am usually on 4G. I searched but couldnt really find anything solid. Thanks!
You already have latest GB radio UCLA3.
I like the ucle2 radio on all roms. My favorite combo is nexus mod gb 4.3 with that radio and the faux kernel.
But everyone has different results in different geographic locations, it seems. Ucla3 is known to be a very good radio in most areas.
I don't have lte in my area either...
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"ICS should be out by the end of the month"
i'm still hoping for the end of the year...
OFWGKTADGAF said:
"ICS should be out by the end of the month"
i'm still hoping for the end of the year...
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Yeah.. I wouldn't count on it coming out anytime soon... AT&T being AT&T and all. That bloatware doesn't install itself.
That being said, I travel around the midwest a fair bit and have found UCLE2 to work quite well.
I would stick with UCLA3. It has awesome battery life. There are plenty of awesome roms built around this too. I liked Stock Mod 2. With the faux kernel of course.
Might as well try a ROM, it was the radio change that made my Kies say "this device is not supported" . After I flashed the original ROM and kernel, it wasn't until I flashed the radios back, then it said" this is the latest firmware"
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Decepticaons said:
Im rooted and I am about to flash a new kernel, Im not going to do any romming yet since the ICS update should be coming by the end of the month (should be). I was just wondering what is the best modem/radio for the skyrocket. I currently have UCLA3 and I live in Grand rapids, MI. I dont believe we get LTE here, but I am usually on 4G. I searched but couldnt really find anything solid. Thanks!
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If you're already rooted and flashing kernels why not just flash a rom? I highly doubt the ics update gonna come by the end of the month but even if it does you'll probably end up trying a few different iterations of it from the different devs here... It's kinda like a new phone everytime you flash...lol Especially since cm9, aokp and aosp are kinda close to being ready as well...
knowing me Ill end up flashing a ROM lol, thanks for all the info everyone!
Hey so im planning on putting sky-ics on my skyrocket and would like to know what the difference is from all the different kernels and radios are. Can I have a different kernel version then radio version(like have a uclf6 kernel with a uclf5 radio). Which one will give me the best reception?
Do more research you aren't ready clearly.
Yes you can use different kernels as long as they are for that type of ROM
Radios are the only thing affecting reception kernel wont do anything for that and are device specific not ROM specific
This is basic info if you don't know these things you should not be flashing but reading do yourself and us old timers a favor
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Search before posting. Search search search search search before posting.
You can use any Sky-compatible kernel with any ICS radio. Don't go flashing Instigator's kernel under Sky, because you will be back here pleading for help with your $600 paperweight. Sean has a comprehensive list of kernels and radios in his OP; mix and match from there and you're safe.
As for reception, SEARCH. Every radio is different and will give you different results depending on where you are. I've taken to keeping 3-4 radios on my SD card for when I travel, as the one that works best for me at home is often not the one that works best for me in Chicago, New York, DC, etc. Even got myself a little list of which radios work best for me where so I can flash before I fly. Point being, no one radio is better than any other, and you have to experiment with them to find out which works best for you.
Are all the radios on the sky-ics page good with at&t? If one is a rodgers radio will I still get reception?
We aren't spoon feeding you son read there are noob threads and such to give you a start
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They do not answer my question.
Then read other threads all your questions have in fact been answered somewhere so I would recommend the search button I'm saving you from a lot of hate later
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reading this might help you understand more: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785999
Noting in any of those guides pertains to my question of what the difference from all the different radios and kernels are, there is not a description for each of them as their should be.
gf113 said:
Noting in any of those guides pertains to my question of what the difference from all the different radios and kernels are, there is not a description for each of them as their should be.
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That's really because something like that can't be written. A radio is a radio. There is no fundamental difference between them; any difference you notice between radios is a product of the network in your area being better tuned to one radio than another. The only way to gauge that is to try several.
As to kernels, again, there's really not a ton of difference. Some have BLN, some don't. Some support OC/UV, some don't. You have to read the individual threads for each kernel, decide which features are important to you, then start testing them for yourself to find which one works best for you. Everyone's usage is different, so the kernel I like is one you might find to be terrible.
Does it make a little more sense now as to why no one's given you a "guide to radios and kernels"?
For AT&T, the UCLF6 radio is latest radio update made available. You'll probably have the best luck with that one. However, as others have posted, it depends on where you live, what type of network connection you're on (lte, 3g, edge), etc, so trying different radios is the only way to know for sure.
Kernals for the phone can be found in skyrocket dev, read around and find out which ones fit your needs. You need to dig for this stuff.
All that being said, we as new members are in no position to make demands of those who provide info and resources to us. This community is made up of volunteers who offer their time and expertise free of charge, and deserve our respect and gratitude given the fact that they dont owe us anything. Search is your friend, and the stickies found in the relevant forums are your best place to start.
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Asking the difference between a kernel and a radio is like asking the difference between a toaster and a sofa. They're just completely different things. However, some kernels do come "bundled" with a radio. Kind of like when you used to buy Windows it came with IE.
In this case, the radio is the software function that controls the actual hardware radio in the phone in order to communicate with the network provider. The kernel is kind of like an interchangeable foundation for the ROM itself. A custom kernel can let you overclock, undervolt, choose additional governors, or have BLN if it isn't built in to the ROM, or some other things too occasionally.
EDIT: And, +1 to robcore.
aycockonxion said:
Asking the difference between a kernel and a radio is like asking the difference between a toaster and a sofa. They're just completely different things. However, some kernels do come "bundled" with a radio. Kind of like when you used to buy Windows it came with IE.
In this case, the radio is the software function that controls the actual hardware radio in the phone in order to communicate with the network provider. The kernel is kind of like an interchangeable foundation for the ROM itself. A custom kernel can let you overclock, undervolt, choose additional governors, or have BLN if it isn't built in to the ROM, or some other things too occasionally.
EDIT: And, +1 to robcore.
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What kernel comes packaged with a radio???
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Returning to Stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398
Mike on XDA said:
What kernel comes packaged with a radio???
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For a one stop shop are Vincom's threads
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Mohan stock comes w radio, kernel and rom.
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mindmajick said:
Mohan stock comes w radio, kernel and rom.
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Been using Cyanogenmod for a week now. Very dissapointed in the fact that my bluetooth audio sounds like AM radio. Also I get extremely bad echo during calls. Tried CM10 and 10.1. Both have the bluetooh issues.
Sure its a little bit faster. But, I rooted and installed a custom rom in hopes to IMPROVE me phone experience and I got just to opposite.
I'm considering going back to the rooted stock rom but I can't seem to find the link to the original latest verizon rooted rom. I didn't make a backup. Can anybody help me locating it?
On another note, I'm willing to try another custom rom if someone can vouch for it and ensure that there are no major bugs like CM10.
Should've bought an iPhone o_o but really the developers spend there personal time making these roms not for money but for us and themselves so if you're "disappointed" in them then make your own or try others, read threads and find out bugs before you flash.
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xdakevin1 said:
Been using Cyanogenmod for a week now. Very dissapointed in the fact that my bluetooth audio sounds like AM radio. Also I get extremely bad echo during calls. Tried CM10 and 10.1. Both have the bluetooh issues.
Sure its a little bit faster. But, I rooted and installed a custom rom in hopes to IMPROVE me phone experience and I got just to opposite.
I'm considering going back to the rooted stock rom but I can't seem to find the link to the original latest verizon rooted rom. I didn't make a backup. Can anybody help me locating it?
On another note, I'm willing to try another custom rom if someone can vouch for it and ensure that there are no major bugs like CM10.
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Don't use bluetooth so can really comment about it, however there are some great touchwiz roms in the Android Development section I stay away from the Original Android Development just because I have found too many issues.
As for some suggestions Synergy is pretty cutting edge though you may have to play with voltages if you install ziggy's kernal. Clean rom is another nice option. Hyperdrive and Delta have also run solid for me. Currently running Beans 12 and it is almost everything I can ask for, if a 5x6 launcher were included it would be perfection for me.
I would say to install twrp as your recovery, if you haven't done so, and install a rom and run it for a few days and see how it handles. Make a backup, twrp lets you rename them so you can easily restore to your favorite rom, and install something else for a few days. Also you may want to try different kernels as well, KT runs good for me but there are many more to choose from.
Finally just remember that each user runs different apps and has different needs and that while we all hqve the same phone minor variatikns n hardaware and just the way the rom flashes can have different effects such as bluetooth audio interferance or poor battery life or app abc will not work for one person but another has none of tjese problems.
Good luck and just remember that the perfect rom is out there waiting for you. You just need to flash like a madman until you find it.
Check out mastamoon's CM 10.1 rom. His latest 2-28 rom is near perfect. BT audio sounds great, signal handoff isn't as good as TW, but it's good enough as a daily driver. I've had little problems with it, to the point i don't even notice it. Try that and your mind will change.
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Been using Cyanogenmod for a week now. Very dissapointed in the fact that my bluetooth audio sounds like AM radio. Also I get extremely bad echo during calls. Tried CM10 and 10.1. Both have the bluetooh issues.
Sure its a little bit faster. But, I rooted and installed a custom rom in hopes to IMPROVE me phone experience and I got just to opposite.
I'm considering going back to the rooted stock rom but I can't seem to find the link to the original latest verizon rooted rom. I didn't make a backup. Can anybody help me locating it?
On another note, I'm willing to try another custom rom if someone can vouch for it and ensure that there are no major bugs like CM10.
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A. If you have issues with a ROM either post in the ROMs thread or in the Q&A section. Not start a thread in General bashing a ROM developers spent countless hours on. Just a respect thing.
B. Go to original development look for yourself, see what has features you like.
At this point, my phone is just one big tweak.
I'm sorry you're getting echo in calls and problems with BT. Would probably be solvable if you had asked since echo has been fixed for a long time.
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That's funny because i've been using AOSP for a few months now and its made my phone a thousand times better.
Neverendingxsin said:
That's funny because i've been using AOSP for a few months now and its made my phone a thousand times better.
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I'm running the same ROM and absolutely love it. The only thing that's missing is multiview. Other than that it's near perfect.
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responses are laughable
I think its funny, this guy has a valid complaint about how CM 10 is making his Bluetooth sound bad, and weather it's true or not, members just bash the $hit out of him, lol.
To the OP, if you don't like the ROM or something is glitchy, I've done two things in the past when I've experienced this.
1. make a backup (I use my backup root), and then boot into recovery, wipe (cache, davlik, system, and Format), then reflash your ROM.. OR
2. Find a new ROM and try that out. Currently I'm running the latest CleanRom with Morphology 1.5, and Ac!d audio..I have no issues with sound or bluetooth.
I hope that helps man, good luck and remember. Keep Calm and Flash Roms.
There are at least two threads where a total noob can seek help to fix the two issues he has, and one more where he can read how to fix his issues. Perhaps there are better ways to address his concerns?
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1Dirty_Mike said:
I think its funny, this guy has a valid complaint about how CM 10 is making his Bluetooth sound bad, and weather it's true or not, members just bash the $hit out of him, lol.
To the OP, if you don't like the ROM or something is glitchy, I've done two things in the past when I've experienced this.
1. make a backup (I use my backup root), and then boot into recovery, wipe (cache, davlik, system, and Format), then reflash your ROM.. OR
2. Find a new ROM and try that out. Currently I'm running the latest CleanRom with Morphology 1.5, and Ac!d audio..I have no issues with sound or bluetooth.
I hope that helps man, good luck and remember. Keep Calm and Flash Roms.
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It really isn't a valid complaint. See below.
Restola said:
I'm sorry you're getting echo in calls and problems with BT. Would probably be solvable if you had asked since echo has been fixed for a long time.
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Plus, it's free. Beggars can't be choosers. Please don't condone his actions - he came across as very rude and ungrateful, whether intentional or not. You shouldn't complain when people give you free stuff. Period.
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Neverendingxsin said:
That's funny because i've been using AOSP for a few months now and its made my phone a thousand times better.
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Couldn't agree more Sir.
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To the OP I say I hope you find a solution to your problem. Keep flashing and find what you need brother. To everyone else I am pretty new to this particular medium (xda forums) but looking at almost every topic I've seen I gather one very singular feeling. Please xda take away the "post new topic" option. Its pretty obvious that every single question that can possibly be asked has already been answered. So why ask any question. They are apparently evil and the world wide web has only limited space so lets please not clog it by asking a question twice *gasp*. There is a section for every device and build for developers only that by all means should be kept as streamlined and clutter free as possible but in general forum questions should not be so vehemently discouraged.
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I am also disappointed in the CM rom's performance...but I think the blame (for my issues, at least) resides totally with Samsung.
The rom itself works great, but when you're in the middle of a town and everyone else in the restaurant has 4g and you've only got 1x (not even 3g)...well...that's an issue.
Wish they would release the friggin RIL so I could just stick with a 4.2 rom. Grrrr!
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I don't know if this is the right place to post this or not. I recently had to return my phone to stock because my phone needed to be re provisioned to activate it again. This happens when you flash multiple roms apparently. I got my phone working and commenced to do everything to flash back to CM 10.1. I noticed I can make calls however, my 3g data will not come up. So, I have flashed back to stock and everything works fine. Anyone know of a tip that might resolve this issue. I was using the nightly from yesterday.
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I am also disappointed in the CM rom's performance...but I think the blame (for my issues, at least) resides totally with Samsung.
The rom itself works great, but when you're in the middle of a town and everyone else in the restaurant has 4g and you've only got 1x (not even 3g)...well...that's an issue.
Wish they would release the friggin RIL so I could just stick with a 4.2 rom. Grrrr!
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Me too, my only real issues with CM (or any non-TW ROM) stem from the fact that the radio interface has not been released by Samsung and therefore the reverse-engineered AOSP RIL will probably never be as good as stock. It's not limited to signal strength issues, you also can't take full advantage of the phone's World Phone capabilities with a non-Touchwiz ROM. Unfortunately for me, that's a deal-breaker, my phone needs to work as a phone first and foremost and if Touchwiz ROMs have a better and more functional radio, I have to stick with that.
I have been using the latest nightlies of Cm and they have been running great. phone works great except in some areas where I can't get a signal with TW roms either.
I had CM running on my Dinc2. Since getting the S3, I've been running CleanROM with mods. (when I was on CR5.6 I was using KindaCrap Mods and now that I'm on CR 6.0 I"m using Andy Bones' AOSP Theme, which gives it a lot of the feel of CM).