Hi all,
One fine evening a while back,
I was sitting under an Android tree when suddenly a device hit me straight on the head.
And then it hit me (again):
People tap type with two fingers but sweep with a single finger.
How would it be like to sweep words with two fingers?
It was a terrible itch, and I just had to scratch it,
and so the Keymonk keyboard came to be.
And let me tell you, it is AMAZING...
In 2010 Samsung and Swype made headlines around the world when
Melissa Thompson used a Swype powered device to set the word record for fastest SMS at 26 seconds.
In this video, sloppy fingered me, sweep through the same notorious SMS in 18 seconds:
Does it look weird?
Give it a try: http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keymonk.latin
And let me know what you think about it.
Better yet, tell your friends!
UPDATE (Oct 26) - Here is a great FAQ created by polstein to summarize this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33278012&postcount=192
I have been using it for a while and let me tell you, it is AWESOME!
Are you the developer of Keymonk? I actually use the paid version, but the way you've been pimping it in various threads all over XDA today makes me kinda want to stop using it to be honest
How about you stop being a bit underhanded and make a proper thread here on XDA so that users can give you feedback and make requests, etc.
Listy2021 said:
Are you the developer of Keymonk? I actually use the paid version, but the way you've been pimping it in various threads all over XDA today makes me kinda want to stop using it to be honest
How about you stop being a bit underhanded and make a proper thread here on XDA so that users can give you feedback and make requests, etc.
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Pretty much that.
On 7 posts made, 6 are pushing Keymonk. Can't see any users loving a software that much.
OP is the dev of the Keymonk keyboard. I suggested that he open a thread about it & ask for some feedback. He kind of went overboard because he wanted to post his youtube video & you need to have 5 or 10 (?) posts to be able to put up the link.
(Sorry about that, probably my fault)
On the keyboard itself:
I've been using the keyboard for a while. It's like he mentioned - Swype with 2 fingers. I switched a lot from Sliding keyboards to a 2-finger keyboard thumb typing keyboard because while I always love the sliding type of keyboard (going back to the Shark keyboard!) I always disliked using just 1 finger on them.
This is a try at being best of both worlds - 2 finger sliding.
I think it was intended for landscape screen originally, so that your fingers don't bump in the middle, but I use it in portrait with few collisions. Actually, one suggestion made was to offer a split keyboard to avoid the collisions all-together.
A couple people I've shown it to were concerned with it being too complicated, since you have to keep track of both thumbs. I haven't had this problem any more then typing with 2 thumbs.
All I can say, is give the free one a shot & let him know what you think (or just post here).
I'll post my comments here and if you/he/we want to move it elsewhere, let me know.
I've used the free version on and off for quite a while and just decided to purchase it. I like it! But it can be really frustrating when the keyboard doesn't recognize my swipes. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes the keyboard just says "try again" (or something like that). It would be really helpful if there were some way for me to find out what I've done wrong so I can modify my behavior. I have NO idea how the app could do this. Maybe letting me tap the message to get an explanation of some sort?
There also seem to be occasions where I've tricked the keyboard into thinking it shouldn't capitalize the next word. I haven't figured out a true pattern yet but I've noticed that it happens when I've entered several new lines in a row, in the Gmail app, for instance, to leave a couple of blank lines.
I'm a big fan of Swype and am becoming a much bigger fan of Keymonk
oh, let me try
currently on touchpal beta
edit: just tried, quite promising and super fast to type long keywords.. just some collisions as suggested above... and prediction needs improvement.
awesome keyboard I think am going to buy it
Sent from my Evo 3D GSM with keymonk keyboard using xda app-developers app
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Are you the developer of Keymonk? I actually use the paid version, but the way you've been pimping it in various threads all over XDA today makes me kinda want to stop using it to be honest
How about you stop being a bit underhanded and make a proper thread here on XDA so that users can give you feedback and make requests, etc.
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Just for the record, that bit of text of yours reads like bullying.
Don't do that again, please.
A new member on XDA can only post a link to Youtube or Google Play after making several initial posts.
XDA only makes this request: "But please, please don’t post junk just to get your post count up!"
I thought it was reasonable and ethical to respond in context to discussions about keyboards.
I thought it was understood that I am the developer,
but in case it wasn't clear I did develop Keymonk,
I apologize to you all.
As for this post, try reading it again.
It believe is perfectly clear from it that I am the developer.
Giving this a go now. Fantastic! Great work.
What's the difference between the paid version and the free version?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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It doesn't happen too often but sometimes the keyboard just says "try again" (or something like that). It would be really helpful if there were some way for me to find out what I've done wrong so I can modify my behavior. I have NO idea how the app could do this. Maybe letting me tap the message to get an explanation of some sort?
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I haven't seen the try again thing too much. The keyboard does show the trace lines, have you happened to notice when you hit the try again how badly you missed (if you missed at all?)
Dodgylegs said:
Giving this a go now. Fantastic! Great work.
What's the difference between the paid version and the free version?
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I *think* the only difference is the pro ones lets you add words to the custom dictionary. (and supports the dev!) Might be others that I just haven't used.
short/y said:
I've used the free version on and off for quite a while and just decided to purchase it. I like it! But it can be really frustrating when the keyboard doesn't recognize my swipes. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes the keyboard just says "try again" (or something like that). It would be really helpful if there were some way for me to find out what I've done wrong so I can modify my behavior
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I will think about it. Maybe there are events in which I can detect there was a problem.
What device are you using?
In some devices the multi-touch screen does not always work properly.
Try to notice if the circles flicker while you sweep your fingers.
Another common problem occurs if you bump your fingers together.
This may confuse the touch screen and prevent the keyboard from detecting your intention.
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There also seem to be occasions where I've tricked the keyboard into thinking it shouldn't capitalize the next word. I haven't figured out a true pattern yet but I've noticed that it happens when I've entered several new lines in a row, in the Gmail app, for instance, to leave a couple of blank lines.
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In Keymonk, auto capitalization works like tapping the shift once.
It will reset back to lower case after the next tap.
This is why after tapping the Enter key several times it resets back to lower case.
nirai said:
Just for the record, that bit of text of yours reads like bullying.
Don't do that again, please.
A new member on XDA can only post a link to Youtube or Google Play after making several initial posts.
XDA only makes this request: "But please, please don’t post junk just to get your post count up!"
I thought it was reasonable and ethical to respond in context to discussions about keyboards.
I thought it was understood that I am the developer,
but in case it wasn't clear I did develop Keymonk,
I apologize to you all.
As for this post, try reading it again.
It believe is perfectly clear from it that I am the developer.
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See the irony is that I'm actually really glad you're on XDA as I like Keymonk, and as I said, have purchased it. The feedback from the users of this community will, hopefully, be valuable to helping you iron out the minor kinks in it.
The only thing I didn't like was the manner of your initial posts, and voiced my opinion about them (and two others actually agreed with me).
As I said, very glad to have you aboard Monkey Man and very much look forward to seeing how the development of Keymonk progresses :good:
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As I said, very glad to have you aboard Monkey Man and very much look forward to seeing how the development of Keymonk progresses :good:
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Cool :good:
What a coincidence, I've just discovered Keymonk in the Play Store. A keyboard junkie myself who types in various languages, I think the concept is pure genius and its actual incarnation in Keymonk is nice and will hopefully get even better over the next months.
The highlights:
- I love the two-handed combination of swiping and tapping. It takes some getting used to, but I think it has enormous potential, particularly on today's bigger screens.
- I love the way you can select a character from the numbers/symbols plane with a simple swipe.
My biggest gripes after a few hundred words:
1. In languages with lots of compounds (like German), you need a way of inputting unknown compound words (having all of them in your dictionary is unrealistic) by swiping the various parts one after another. Like: Zeitgeist -> Zeit + Geist. What you need is a command to start the next word without a space and in lower case. In Swype you do that by swiping from the Space key to the Backspace key (a symbol on the space bar shows you've activated no-space mode). So, you swipe Zeit, then you swipe from the space bar to the backspace key and then swipe Geist, and you get Zeitgeist.
An alternative would be a command to glue the last word to the penultimate one (ie. after the fact as it were rather than before the fact as with Swype). So you swipe Zeit, then Geist, and then swipe a command to convert Zeit Geist to Zeitgeist. Not sure how easy and reliable this kind of postediting would be, but if it worked, I would even prefer it to Swype's method.
2. If I append characters to a previously typed word (often enough inadvertently) and then want to delete it, a left swipe from the Backspace key deletes the entire thing rather than the appended part only. Swype (or was it Swiftkey) does it better by keeping track of edits and only deleting the last part. After #1, this was the biggest cause for lost time in my tests.
3. There are no predictions while typing, only a frustrating "..." (OK, alternative forms for the last typed key are offered, e.g ä for a, which is a nifty idea). Why is that? I thought predictions for the current word (if not for the next) were standard.
4. A long-press must give you some sort of popup with alternative forms (eg. e -> é, è, ê etc.). Different keyboards implement the actual act of choosing among the alternatives differently, but this again is standard, and for a reason. Keymonk itself demonstrates the usefulness of this concept with the excellent popup on long-pressing the full stop key.
I am delighted to see a newcomer that can actually challenge the giants of the category, and I'd love to see it getting even better soon.
Lebenita
I couldn't agree more to what was said above!
because this keyboard really has loads of potential...
Gesendet von meinem GT-N7000 mit Tapatalk 2
Dodgylegs said:
Giving this a go now. Fantastic! Great work.
What's the difference between the paid version and the free version?
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The full version can add new words to the user dictionary (while the free version can only read the user dictionary).
In addition the full version unlocks the settings page.
In particular it lets you activate auto-spaces after punctuations marks.
My favorite feature in the full version is being able to hide the list of suggestions.
After a bit of practice, you get the right words most of the time and don't really need it anymore.
The extra space you get for the editor view in landscape mode is significant.
You can see how that looks like in the video.
Lebenita said:
I think the concept is pure genius and its actual incarnation in Keymonk is nice
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Yay!
I love the way you can select a character from the numbers/symbols plane with a simple swipe.
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You can also sweep from the 123 key to the ALT key and then to a symbol from the ALT keyboard.
or you can hold the 123/ALT keys while you tap symbols with the other finger and it will return to QWERTY when you are done.
In languages with lots of compounds (like German), you need a way of inputting unknown compound words (having all of them in your dictionary is unrealistic) by swiping the various parts one after another. Like: Zeitgeist -> Zeit + Geist.
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I will think about that, thanks for the heads up!
If I append characters to a previously typed word (often enough inadvertently) and then want to delete it, a left swipe from the Backspace key deletes the entire thing rather than the appended part only.
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I will think about that too.
There are no predictions while typing, only a frustrating "..." (OK, alternative forms for the last typed key are offered, e.g ä for a, which is a nifty idea). Why is that? I thought predictions for the current word (if not for the next) were standard.
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Well, I believe predictions are a distraction and encourage slow typing, and are not useful when typing at 40 words per minute or faster.
A long-press must give you some sort of popup with alternative forms (eg. e -> é, è, ê etc.). Different keyboards implement the actual act of choosing among the alternatives differently, but this again is standard, and for a reason.
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I think this will not work well in Keymonk since a user is likely to hold down a key while thinking what to do with the other finger, especially when just starting to use the keyboard.
In addition, I do not like long press key functionality for letters.
I think it is quicker to tap a letter and then tap its alternative form in the suggestions list.
Thank you for your feedback!
Going to give this a look! Always looking for a faster way to type!
how do add dictionary other than english and the one provided
So, wanted a keyboard-based phone, and I found one. I love how it feels, and how it operates, less three minor things. Well, kinda major, really.
Firstly, I have a overly-aggressive correction thingy when I type. My last phone would, say, if I type 'Haha' and it replaces it with 'Here', all I have to do is touch the backspace once, and it would correct itself, and restore the 'Haha' back, and I just touch space, and keep on typing.
This thing is evil. Instead of letting me, for instance type 'here', it would replace it automaticly with 'he're'. [Is that even a word?] It would -not- correct in the method I described above. I would -have- to go to setting>Input>Dictionaries>Add a word thingy to get it to keep 'here'.
The main thing I need to accomplish is making it so the replacing 'aggression', I would assume, is toned down. I know I could simply disable it, and all, but, I sometimes need the extra help, haha.
That's the first issue.
The second one, is that right by the 'A' button on the keyboard, there is a key that's a shortcut to this 'QuickMemo' uselessness. I have to hit back, and then resume typing, hopefully not hitting the button again. [And I say this, 'cause I have hit it a few times in one reply. x.x]
And, finally, when I get an SMS reply, it likes to show an IM-like window over whatever it is I am doing. It's more of just a minor thing that I -could- live with, assuming the other two issues could be resolved.
Any help would be appreciated!
-Haz
Hi,
I'm sorry but we haven't thread for your LG model.
I have two suggesrtions:
1st => Go to General discussion > Questions and Answers and post your request.
2st => try to change your keyboard apk - you can try Swiftkey or Swipe. and stop to use your native keyboard
Good luck
philos64 said:
Hi,
I'm sorry but we haven't thread for your LG model.
I have two suggesrtions:
1st => Go to General discussion > Questions and Answers and post your request.
2st => try to change your keyboard apk - you can try Swiftkey or Swipe. and stop to use your native keyboard
Good luck
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..you want me to not use my physical keyboard? Sorry, just trying to make sure I am understanding what you are recommending.
It was suggestion, but I know that a lot of users who have a physical keyboard prefer this type of keyboard that the other as Swiftkey ...
I haven't got any suggestions except to post your problem to Q&A forum (1st link)
Do you use Auto-correct on your keyboard,?
If yes, simply turn-off
Suggestion from one of my colleague XDA Team Assist @PulseDroid
philos64 said:
Do you use Auto-correct on your keyboard,?
If yes, simply turn-off
Suggestion from one of my colleague XDA Team Assist @PulseDroid
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I appreciate the reply, and your time you took into your post, however, I am trying to find an alternative to that. Again, I sometimes am not the best typer, so, I need some help sometimes.
I will, however, post on the forum as suggested.
First of all, i have lurked in several threads but am still a novice in the xda community - so allow me to apologize in advance for posting a question that may very well be asked in the wrong thread. I know this community has an abundance of knowledgeble members, so this was my first destination to find the answer I was looking for.
Q:
Is there a way (without root preferably?) anyone is aware of to create a user defined system for placing newly downloaded app icons on my desktop?
I am very anal about aesthetics when it comes to my phone, and i absolutely hate icons being placed in what seens to be an almost random pattern.
I want to be able to choose a user defined placement system that chooses the page, column, and row in which the next icon will be automatically placed after it is downloaded. Ideally there would be an order of importance that i could set so my device knows that if x spot is taken then the icon instead goes y.
I hope this made sense.
I generally use Nova Prime, and my device is running 4.4.2 and is not currently rooted (rooting is an option if thats the only way to make it happen).
Thanks in advance for any help i may receive.
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First of all, i have lurked in several threads but am still a novice in the xda community - so allow me to apologize in advance for posting a question that may very well be asked in the wrong thread. I know this community has an abundance of knowledgeble members, so this was my first destination to find the answer I was looking for.
Q:
Is there a way (without root preferably?) anyone is aware of to create a user defined system for placing newly downloaded app icons on my desktop?
I am very anal about aesthetics when it comes to my phone, and i absolutely hate icons being placed in what seens to be an almost random pattern.
I want to be able to choose a user defined placement system that chooses the page, column, and row in which the next icon will be automatically placed after it is downloaded. Ideally there would be an order of importance that i could set so my device knows that if x spot is taken then the icon instead goes y.
I hope this made sense.
I generally use Nova Prime, and my device is running 4.4.2 and is not currently rooted (rooting is an option if thats the only way to make it happen).
Thanks in advance for any help i may receive.
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Hi, thanks for using XDA assist!
First, please create an account and then ask your question here:
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You have already registered a account on XDA and posted your question again here . wait for the response there
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