Let me start off by saying, I love Android, and shall forever remain loyal to it.
Now, every single version of Android has been open-source, and free to all. This has allowed Android to grow in succession and recognition.
Though this may be, one version of Android will forever remain locked away, Honeycomb. For this reason, Android will never be truly open-source.
No flaming needed, just an observation.
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KayxGee1 said:
Let me start off by saying, I love Android, and shall forever remain loyal to it.
Now, every single version of Android has been open-source, and free to all. This has allowed Android to grow in succession and recognition.
Though this may be, one version of Android will forever remain locked away, Honeycomb. For this reason, Android will never be truly open-source.
No flaming needed, just an observation.
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Do your research please.
Honeycomb source was released alongside ICS.
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KayxGee1 said:
Let me start off by saying, I love Android, and shall forever remain loyal to it.
Now, every single version of Android has been open-source, and free to all. This has allowed Android to grow in succession and recognition.
Though this may be, one version of Android will forever remain locked away, Honeycomb. For this reason, Android will never be truly open-source.
No flaming needed, just an observation.
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Also, how are you one to speak? You sent that from an ipad.
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And to backup my claim:
In early 2011, Google chose to
temporarily withhold the Android
source code to the tablet-only
Honeycomb release, the reason,
according to Andy Rubin in an official
Android blog post, was because
Honeycomb was rushed for
production of the Motorola Xoom,
[132] and they did not want third
parties creating a "really bad user
experience" by attempting to put
onto smartphones a version of
Android intended for tablets. [133]
The source code was once again
made available in November 2011
with the release of Android 4.0. [134]
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Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
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I just love these kind of arguments
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stqism said:
Also, how are you one to speak? You sent that from an ipad.
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How does it matter what device someone uses to reply if their information is correct?
Unless we are assuming that because apple mislead people sometimes that their devices must do the same.
Just seems an odd response to a factual reply.
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How does it matter what device someone uses to reply if their information is correct?
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His information wasn't even correct
Yes his information was correct.
http://pocketnow.com/android/google-releases-ice-cream-sandwich-honeycomb-source-to-aosp
And my question remains, since when does using an ipad make someone's point less valid?
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mistermentality said:
Yes his information was correct.
http://pocketnow.com/android/google-releases-ice-cream-sandwich-honeycomb-source-to-aosp
And my question remains, since when does using an ipad make someone's point less valid?
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Nope. He said it was never released. Your link contradicts him.
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Nope. He said it was never released. Your link contradicts him.
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I was mis attributing posts, sorry. I was referring to the poster who said it was released. For some reason I also thought they had the ipad.
But it's still odd to criticise a persons post based solely on their choice of os, which was what I meant.
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I believe you are mistaken my friend. Honeycomb source code was technically released with ICS as it was built from Honeycomb. Google never made a separate Honeycomb source code release.
Side note- Yes, I have an iPad, but it was a gift. Would I love to have a Transformer or Nexus tablet? Yes, but why spend money when I have something that already works.
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It doesn't matter how the code was released, you aren't someone who gets to say "Well because honeycomb source code wasn't released on it's own it doesn't count!". You're splitting hairs just to argue.
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Jiibus said:
It doesn't matter how the code was released, you aren't someone who gets to say "Well because honeycomb source code wasn't released on it's own it doesn't count!". You're splitting hairs just to argue.
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I'm not trying to argue. Google never tagged the releases for Honeycomb. It was officially never released, unlike every other version of Android. If ICS wasn't built off of Honeycomb, it would have never been "released".
You say it got release, doesn't matter the manner.
I say it didn't, because it wasn't an official release and the code was never tagged.
We're never going to agree.
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What is the point of this thread? Android is open source, and who cares when/how honeycomb was released, and last time I checked iOS was about as open source as Fort Knox, so why make idiotic complaints about Android that aren't even true while posting from the most locked down device in history?
Fck outta here
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I was wondering if there is any chance in the near future to install IOS 4.3 on the XOOM as a dual boot ?
Seriously? WTH!!
NO
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Hhahaha you made my night
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Are you kidding me?! What kind of a question is that???? No it won't happen ever!
This would be like replacing a ferarri engine with the guts from a Geo prism.
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Long answer: Because of Apple's closed environment and non open source software, and also because of legality issues and such........
Short answer: No.
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i think you have it the other way around.
can I put honeycomb onto iPad2?
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i think you have it the other way around.
can I put honeycomb onto iPad2?
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i would buy that
The day Steve Jobs admits that flash is still necessary for web browsing and he makes iOS open source
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The day Steve Jobs changes his black turtle neck at a release event lol. I don't think the guy changes his clothes!
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B Dizzle said:
The day Steve Jobs changes his black turtle neck at a release event lol. I don't think the guy changes his clothes!
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Dude Steve Jobs died like 10 years ago bruvloski... its been a robot forever everybody knows that...
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I don't think this is impossible at all. It won't be official or legal, but as Android was put on iPhones, I think the opposite is perfectly possible. One blog I read today even implied the possibility of the Apple A5 being the same processor as the A9 in the xoom, but I really don't know how correct that is.
The problem is that I don't see anyone bothering to do this, but I wish they would. It would be awesome to have access to some iOS-exclusive apps.
I dont think Apple would have any problems with this at all.
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One blog I read today even implied the possibility of the Apple A5 being the same processor as the A9 in the xoom, but I really don't know how correct that is.
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the A9 processor you're referring to is the Cortex-A9 processor, which is used for all dual core processors. all the new high end phones you see now are powered by ARM Cortex-A9 processor (including iP4, Atrix, Bionic, etc)
On top of the Cortex-A9 lies the SoC chip,
The A5 is an SoC developed by (intrinsity, samsung, apple)
The Tegra 2 is an SoC developed by NVIDIA
Hope that clears things up.
ChongoDroid said:
Dude Steve Jobs died like 10 years ago bruvloski... its been a robot forever everybody knows that...
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Apple is SkyNet?
This is one of the funniest threads I've seen. The only one that compares was the "Anyone want to trade my iPad 3G for your Xoom?" Like anyone would give up a Xoom for an iPad...
U might as well wait until some body ports over the miui rom over to the xoom if u like ios so much lol
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I don't think this is impossible at all. It won't be official or legal, but as Android was put on iPhones, I think the opposite is perfectly possible. One blog I read today even implied the possibility of the Apple A5 being the same processor as the A9 in the xoom, but I really don't know how correct that is.
The problem is that I don't see anyone bothering to do this, but I wish they would. It would be awesome to have access to some iOS-exclusive apps.
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And how, if I may ask?
The developer would need iOS source to start with. How about rewriting drivers, functions etc?
Android can be used on iOS devices but it doesn't mean the opposite could be possible.. The OSes are just so diffrent
..but yeah, it'd be cool to have a device open to ALL platforms and usable with them.
Maybe someday VMware can do this
Android OS Installed on HP Touchpad! (Lawrenceville)
Date: 2011-09-11, 4:53PM
We can install the Android OS on your HP Touchpad while you wait!
Location: Lawrenceville it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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---he said it dual boots Android Honeycomb...
You all see any truth to this?
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well ask him what functions actually work and what dont. Then compare his reply to the alpha build available here n in touchdroid because thts probably wht it is.
docnas said:
well ask him what functions actually work and what dont. Then compare his reply to the alpha build available here n in touchdroid because thts probably wht it is.
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this. If he was just doing it for the money, and he legitimately had a fully stable build, he would have collected the ransoms and made way more than he ever would locally through craigslist.
docnas said:
well ask him what functions actually work and what dont. Then compare his reply to the alpha build available here n in touchdroid because thts probably wht it is.
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Thanks
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Thanks
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There's a button for that...
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NP unfortunately there are alot of people who take advantage of things available here in xda and other forums and sell them as their own work.
@leftovermagic i thought they had canceled the ransom/reward for the port?
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Android OS Installed on HP Touchpad! (Lawrenceville)
Date: 2011-09-11, 4:53PM
We can install the Android OS on your HP Touchpad while you wait!
Location: Lawrenceville it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 2593536697
---he said it dual boots Android Honeycomb...
You all see any truth to this?
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Just his claim of Honeycomb makes me call shenanigans.
The current projects that I am aware of are all targeting a Gingerbread-based system dual-booting with WebOS. Anyone know of others?
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@leftovermagic i thought they had canceled the ransom/reward for the port?
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I thought it was up, but the Cyanogen team was going to have it donated to charity if they won, i'm not sure though.
ahh ok i had heard that it was removed because it was causing more problems than actually promoting development like it was supposed to . anyway i hope CM (or to be honest anyone ) get a port done soon, i want to see what this thing can do when not crippled by HP's stupidities ( printing, bluetooth pairing , adhoc tethering ,the damn arrow keys etc etc ). I dont blame webOS i blame HP for trying to lock the device to only work like they want and with their things only( kinda like apple which why i never liked apple).
the ice cream sandwhich SDK is currently out on android sdk website. http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
anyone start toying with it yet?
if so how'd you like it?
discuss
I am on too slow of a connection to download and mess with it but just from reading the notes it looks like the press conference REALLY left a lot of important features unmentioned. Another thing I found odd was that there was zero mention of the "one OS to rule them all." I would have thought Google would make a bigger deal about this being a unifying version of the OS.
I just tried it and I must say it rocks.
I really like the browser
I just feel that they could have been a bit more creative with the home launcher since it kinda reminds me of adw, but other than that everything rocks
mathkid95 said:
I just tried it and I must say it rocks.
I really like the browser
I just feel that they could have been a bit more creative with the home launcher since it kinda reminds me of adw, but other than that everything rocks
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and what do you mean, you just tired it?? :ninja:
???
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mathkid95 said:
???
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he's taken one too many punches to the face during his career
Lol
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haha, I re-read what you wrote then realized I sounded like a complete moron.
so my previous statement will remain invalid.
how long do you estimate before we start seeing some work here in the forums?
Work on ics??
Prolly not for a while until someone gets a hold of a system dump or something
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SDK boring...
Can we just use the SDK directly in the phone? lol
Hehehehehe would require a lot of work
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Can't wait for the Matr1x kernel IF ICS comes to our phone.
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Lol ill definitely still support it even if I switch to the prime
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Awesome. Thanks as always mathkid.
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So, if someone could just port it to our phone
are you really worrying, if ICS will be available for the NS?! or did i miss something?
no worries, mates, as far as i have read the statements of google, ICS will definitely come for the NS! of course they have to bring it, i'd buy an f*ing iphone, if my not even 1 year old developer phone was no longer supported! (ok, it was a bluff, i'd never buy that brick, but i'd be really pissed! )
the last thing i read about it was, that they first of all work on the NS-rollout...though i don't think, that it will happen before the galaxy nexus is published...
Edit: "Google Android Chief Andy Rubin stated that Ice Cream Sandwich is on schedule to roll out “a couple of week after” the Galaxy Nexus arrives in the marketplace." -> that may take some time, maybe a christmas present?
treUse said:
So, if someone could just port it to our phone
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It has to come out for ANY phone before that can happen. Besides we will be the second phone to get it so i'm imagining we will have an official before there is ever a port, so just settle down :
With the announcement of webOS moving to a open source platform, am I the only one wishing for a port of webOS to the Charges' hardware? Sure its not the most powerful phone or neither does it have the strongest developer base, but I'm still hoping for it one day. This is coming from a person who had a Palm Pre Plus prior to my D'Charge, so therefore I'm very familiar with the way webOS works and I still today miss it the fluidity of the platform. So let me know, am I alone?
In theory, I suppose it could be done, as WebOS is also Linux based. However, it would take a LOT of work-I think the time put into such a project would not equal the number of people who would want to use it.
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+1 I'd love to see that, but CM7 and/or ICS comes first!
I think most people would rather see ICS ported first...
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I think most people would rather see ICS ported first...
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In all honesty I would like to see ICS before I would like to see WebOS, but I feel like these ports would be coming from different teams. From one corner their will be developers working to get ICS to all non-nexus devices and in the other corner their will be people working to get WebOS on android devices and once its done here it will be picked up by other developers and tweaked to work on the particular device they're developing for.
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I think most people would rather see ICS ported first...
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Is it true your working on ics now?
Gears Of War 3!
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Like the OP I too am a webOS convert. WebOS definitely has its strong point over Android ( no tomatos please ). But until HP gets their act together and decides on a reliable direction webOS has no chance or future.
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Call me crazy but I would also like to see a wp7 port as well. I'm really liking the look of it and all the wp7 apps in our market don't do a good enough job of recreating it, unless you dish out some money.
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Lockett said:
Call me crazy but I would also like to see a wp7 port as well. I'm really liking the look of it and all the wp7 apps in our market don't do a good enough job of recreating it, unless you dish out some money.
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Wp7 isn't open source
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Lockett said:
Call me crazy but I would also like to see a wp7 port as well. I'm really liking the look of it and all the wp7 apps in our market don't do a good enough job of recreating it, unless you dish out some money.
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WP7 is impossible. One, it's closed source. Two, it's not Linux based, unlike webOS and Android.
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Yea, I knew it was going to be impossible. They did manage to dual boot Android and WP7 on the HD2. One can dream though, right? Lol
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Lockett said:
Yea, I knew it was going to be impossible. They did manage to dual boot Android and WP7 on the HD2. One can dream though, right? Lol
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you can port other version of windows phone on devices that ship with it, but not on ones that dont
unless you like getting sued my MS
i think on this device priority is some form of working aosp anyway, not webos
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Like the OP I too am a webOS convert. WebOS definitely has its strong point over Android ( no tomatos please ). But until HP gets their act together and decides on a reliable direction webOS has no chance or future.
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I guess we'll have to wait and see, I even dusted off the old Pre Plus today and played with it for awhile and when I went back to my D'Charge I kept catching myself swiping up to get out of my email.
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In all honesty I would like to see ICS before I would like to see WebOS, but I feel like these ports would be coming from different teams. From one corner their will be developers working to get ICS to all non-nexus devices and in the other corner their will be people working to get WebOS on android devices and once its done here it will be picked up by other developers and tweaked to work on the particular device they're developing for.
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just not enough developers over here...HTC is big in the development department...they have lots of development going on over there, not so much for our Samsung. Then again we got sicker screens and thinner devices..
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I guess we'll have to wait and see, I even dusted off the old Pre Plus today and played with it for awhile and when I went back to my D'Charge I kept catching myself swiping up to get out of my email.
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Indeed. I still try to swipe delete emails and text messages.
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With the release of Isis (the open-source webOS browser), is there any chance of it being ported to the Charge, or Android in general?
Also webOS. I would love to have webOS on this phone.
not going to happen
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not going to happen
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why not?
Well it is possible but a dev would have to take an interest in it and considering this phone has kinda died out with the exception of a few that's not likely to happen
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WebOS is going to be outdated soon.
Will anyone port one over or is it pointless ??
iTzAmAzED
Cannot be done legally and then there are driver issues and something else I cannot remember.
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Will anyone port one over or is it pointless ??
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Closed source software= illegal to port. The only thing that can be emulated is the look of WP 8 via an launcher app.
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Cannot be done legally and then there are driver issues and something else I cannot remember.
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Because this has stopped developers? Lol. Look at the hd2
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amazin1988 said:
Will anyone port one over or is it pointless ??
iTzAmAzED
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download a launcher that emulates windows phone.
or, buy a windows phone.
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Because this has stopped developers? Lol. Look at the hd2
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Ya android was ported to a windows phone. Android is open source.
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Ya android was ported to a windows phone. Android is open source.
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No, I'm talking about how WP8 was ported.
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No, I'm talking about how WP8 was ported.
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Possible? Yes. Probable? Probably not. Due to technical and legal issues.
Even if the technical challenges including reverse engineering closed source drivers is done the build would likely be kept private as Microsoft lawyers can and will make your life suck. Even if despite all the previous if you wanted to release it you would not be permitted to on XDA or many other sites since you would be in an, at best, legally gray area.
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Possible? Yes. Probable? Probably not. Due to technical and legal issues.
Even if the technical challenges including reverse engineering closed source drivers is done the build would likely be kept private as Microsoft lawyers can and will make your life suck. Even if despite all the previous if you wanted to release it you would not be permitted to on XDA or many other sites since you would be in an, at best, legally gray area.
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Sorry, it wasn't wp8 but it was wp7.x which is still closed source and is definitely hosted on XDA without issue. There is an entire sub forum dedicated to Windows Phone 7 ROMs for the HTC HD2. I get what you're saying but something being closed source obviously hasn't stopped XDA from hosting. Now, that being said, Adam Outler found a way to boot from an SD card which would make the process a hell of a lot easier.
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