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The touchpro "D-Pad"

Apologies if this has been thoroughly covered, I went back 4-5 pages in each forum but didn't see anything.
From what I can gather from reviews and youtube videos the D-pad on the Touch pro works like a standard D-pad, and when in opera can be used to zoom in by circling it with a finger like a click wheel on an Ipod. Is it possible to modify it to work as a scroll wheel instead of a "zoom wheel". I know this isn't an option out of the box, but is it something that's possible, or being worked on?
I'm considering from the tilt, and while I've convinced myself that I don't need the hard left and right buttons, or the email & browser buttons, I'm not sure I'll be able to get used to working without any kind of jog dial/scroll wheel.

I think it's been asked and the answer is not yet.
The D-pad is one of the things I really don't like about the phone though, the buttons are all on the same plane, not separated in any way, and that makes it very difficult to differentiate the d-pad from the home/back/send/end buttons. I didn't find it was a problem until playing games, when I kept minimizing the window by hitting the Back button.

oh... the touch pro has a d-pad??? omg ive had the phone for almost a month and i only just discovered it. i thought it was just a scroll thing. its really hard to press though..

Black93300ZX said:
I think it's been asked and the answer is not yet.
The D-pad is one of the things I really don't like about the phone though, the buttons are all on the same plane, not separated in any way, and that makes it very difficult to differentiate the d-pad from the home/back/send/end buttons. I didn't find it was a problem until playing games, when I kept minimizing the window by hitting the Back button.
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Well I don't really play a whole lot of games on my phone, but I do read a lot of really long email threads, and more importantly, when I'm bored I read sites like overheardinnewyork.com which is basically a lot of text to scroll through.
I'm getting the feeling that I'm going to have to find a way to "play" with a TP and see if I love it or not. I went 8125, x01ht, tilt, and now I'm looking to upgrade. but if this phone isn't going to rock me, I'll hold out (for what I don't know).
As much as I like flashing new roms to my tilt, it seems all anyone does is try to rip the best features from other phones...so at some point I might as well just get the other phone.

Diamond Tweak 0.5.3 allows you to enable d-pad scrolling for some applications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
(you need to soft-reset after you have changed options)

dougalls said:
Diamond Tweak 0.5.3 allows you to enable d-pad scrolling for some applications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
(you need to soft-reset after you have changed options)
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Hmmm, looks promising. Have you tried it? I just can't imagine I'd ever use the zoom feature, although up to now I've used opera mini, so perhaps after switching to opera mobile I'd change my mind. But I'm still pretty sure I'd prefer to double tap the screen to zoom, and have another means of scrolling.

I have tried it and it works well for contacts (useful), programs etc but does not work with my Yahoo inbox (possibly due to the ROM I am using - ROmeOS v1.22) and it does not replace the zoom in opera. You can set up custom applications in DiamondTweak so it may be possible to overcome any differences between ROM's by setting up a custom application. I do use the zoom in opera so wouldn't want to replace it.
You can still double tap to zoom in/out on opera, as well as the wheel - the wheel lets you zoom in/out in small increments, double tapping toggles between full page and zoomed in.

DesCo said:
Hmmm, looks promising. Have you tried it? I just can't imagine I'd ever use the zoom feature, although up to now I've used opera mini, so perhaps after switching to opera mobile I'd change my mind. But I'm still pretty sure I'd prefer to double tap the screen to zoom, and have another means of scrolling.
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Think about this, with Opera Mobile you'll only have 2 levels of zoom ("in" or "out") unless you use the wheel to zoom. I liked being able to use it to fine tune and get things to look just right, but that's me. Try it out and see what you think.

With newer versions of Opera Mobile, there is now an on-screen zoom slider that adds a "tap and slide" button for incremental zooming. Now I find myself wanting an alternative to scrolling, since my finger otherwise covers up part of the screen and might accidentally click a link. Unfortunately the arrows and dpad don't scroll the page but instead jump from link to link.
This has been one detail (although a minor detail) that has made be begin to consider replacing my TP with the X1, since the X1's optical sensor dpad apparently provides scrolling functionality.

DesCo said:
Hmmm, looks promising. Have you tried it? I just can't imagine I'd ever use the zoom feature, although up to now I've used opera mini, so perhaps after switching to opera mobile I'd change my mind. But I'm still pretty sure I'd prefer to double tap the screen to zoom, and have another means of scrolling.
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use advance config 3.3 ........search for the link
go to options, click smart touch and it allows you to add any application, where in touch wheel (above D Pad) can be used for scrolling......i use it for contacts, file manager, program, call history, phone window, mails, messages and its really usefull and very cool........i dont use it for opera and internet explorer and use it for zooming as put in default
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Kingjack

Thanks for the info. As I said, I haven't picked up the TP yet, I'm holding out for the Fuze (or a reasonably priced GSM model).
To change gears a bit, I'm curious, what kind of difference do people see in using cooked Roms on this device. I only ask because as a Kaiser user I'm used to using Roms because they incorporate features from the latest equipment. But as this is among the newest models out, and a "flagship" phone so to speak...is there much of an advantage over say a stock ATT rom minus the bloat? I enjoy high level of customization, and being able to pick my features, but as this is a relatively new device, I don't want to go through the trouble of unlocking and flashing if there isn't going to be a real gain in performance/features, or if it's going to impact performance (like trying to run Manilla 2d on a Kaiser, and pretending that a 5 second screen rotate time is ok)
PS: just for the record, despite my incredibly low post count, I've been lurking on the board for ~2 years...I'm not some (I hate this word) newb asking "what rom is best" or "can someone explain to me how to XXX reading the Wiki is too much work"...just wanted to throw that out there.

Volume buttons for scroll
Review on wmexperts of Sprint Touch Pro has the information below in the comments area. Looks like the reviewer followed up with the statement that he used AE Buttons to remap the volume buttons on the side, where the scroll wheel is on 8525/Tilt to scroll up and down with each click. I don't have Fuze, but it seems like this would work on it as well, I don't think it's a free softare though.
http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/smartphones/review_24_hours_with_the_sprin.html
Buttons: I have successfully used AE Buttons to successfully remap the volume up and down buttons. I have the volume down button set at one click to scroll down and a log click for OK/Enter. The volume up button is set at one to scroll up and the log click Alt/Tab Wisbar's switch utility. I have also remapped the Back button to OK/Enter. The Home button now brings down the Start Menu on a single click and Email when I hold it down. This has made life a lot easier and has in virtually increased my available hardware buttons to a more comfortable level of usable buttons.

cparkhorn said:
Review on wmexperts of Sprint Touch Pro has the information below in the comments area. Looks like the reviewer followed up with the statement that he used AE Buttons to remap the volume buttons on the side, where the scroll wheel is on 8525/Tilt to scroll up and down with each click. I don't have Fuze, but it seems like this would work on it as well, I don't think it's a free softare though.
http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/smartphones/review_24_hours_with_the_sprin.html
Buttons: I have successfully used AE Buttons to successfully remap the volume up and down buttons. I have the volume down button set at one click to scroll down and a log click for OK/Enter. The volume up button is set at one to scroll up and the log click Alt/Tab Wisbar's switch utility. I have also remapped the Back button to OK/Enter. The Home button now brings down the Start Menu on a single click and Email when I hold it down. This has made life a lot easier and has in virtually increased my available hardware buttons to a more comfortable level of usable buttons.
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How have you managed to get AEButton working on your home button?
I found that the home and back buttons seem to be "hard coded" to do their tasks, and AEbutton only assigns an *additional* task to each button. In other words, when I press Home for start menu, it first goes home, and then opens start. If I map the back button to Camera, it first goes back an application screen, then launches camera. Very annoying. The only buttons I found AEButton works with is the vol up and down. Is there a trick I'm missing?

MAMECE3

I have copied the folder I had MAMECE3 (mamece3 dot mameworld dot info) installed on - onto the sd card in my HD2. The program runs fine, but the problem is the buttons. I see that morphgear has an onscreen d-pad - is it possible to add one to this? This is the one thing I really miss from my old Axim x51v - a d-pad!
They have the source code available. This would open our devices up to yet another whole world of 1,000s of games. I would love to see moonpatrol, pacman, tapper and asteroids running yet again. And with freeware ;-)
note: anyone else have a favorite game they used to run on MAME?

You just named all my favs..... I'd love to see the MAME come to the HD2.

Try with LMT (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629263): among the other features it sports a good trasparent multi-touch onscreen controller, that can be used either on portrait and landscape mode.
It should overcome your problem (and be much more playable...).
By the way SEGA and Capcom games were the best!

OK tried it - nothing.
More detail - I installed it as per the instructions (on the device). If i run it, it just takes me back to the home screen. No findger swipes do anything other than the regular sense ones. I checked the task manager I don't see it running. I wonder what it takes to call it up other than just clicking on the shortcut.
So, I ran MAME. after a short time the game chooser menu comes up. It is at this point that I can set the buttons for different things, but nothing as far as LMT is concerned. So I go back and run it thinking maybe it is not running in the background (esp. since it never shows up in the task manager). Ahhh (wait for it ......) still nothing.
Kind of disappointing. I can start a rom, enter coins, but that is it - without my beloved d-pad i miss soo much.
Any other ideas?

Quick report back. Went over the thread again. Saw what I was doing wrong with LMT. It is a double swipe thing. I see the double swipe etc. on the Home screen. If you drawing a box with your finger the console comes up. I have had that up while trying to configure the buttons. I was even able to configure all of the buttons to taps on the LMT console (up = up, A for exit game, etc.) - no success.
When the game starts it is still lokking for the hardware keys and not the software ones - even though they are set in the button configure menu of MAMECE.
Please let us know if anyone else was able to get it working.

I succesfully mapped buttons 1 and 2 on LMT Controller, but not the others. Directional keys work perfectly.
My problem is that with the LMT Controller in portrait mode the only visible section of the screen during game is under the controller, while on landscape mode all is visible but it's really unconfortable!
And unluckily MAMECE3 doesn't support screen in landscape mode!
I've to figure out something else...

OK If you are interested in this. The LMT controller works great (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629263&page=67) go there get it - DONATE!. note: this is the latest page - it is on page 1. Use it in landscape mode. You just have to have it off when going to button settings - then do the square to open it - set the buttons. Hit the x to close it and save your settings.
Start the ROM you want - restart the controller.

vonkarayan said:
I succesfully mapped buttons 1 and 2 on LMT Controller, but not the others. Directional keys work perfectly.
My problem is that with the LMT Controller in portrait mode the only visible section of the screen during game is under the controller, while on landscape mode all is visible but it's really unconfortable!
And unluckily MAMECE3 doesn't support screen in landscape mode!
I've to figure out something else...
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YES it does. Click on options > Rotate Right and it will work just fine. It took me a while to figure this one out. Also, if you delete all of your config files in the cfg directory it will use your default settings for everything. One thing I did was, change the one player button to the back arrow (hard key) less problems that way.
Remeber that left arrow then right arrow is "OK"

Dead Space works on Evo4G

I posted this in the Evo3D forum (since I upgraded to the 3D) but I do still have my OG 4G and recently installed DeadSpace, which is "exclusive" to the xperia Okay right now... But if you look you can find it
Well, it works on the original 4G as well! And plays pretty well I might add? I was surprised.
One little caveat with the game is the lack of a dedicated "lower weapon". But that can be worked around by simply bringing up the in game menu and exiting it. It lowers the weapon. But if you want a dedicated button. You can do this.
OK. This isn't a mod of the actual game... I'll (pretend i know what I'm doing and) look into it though.
This is an edit of the phones actual keylayout file in order to trick the game into thinking we have an L1 button to.make lowering the weapon much easier.
First. Make a backup...for me? And you... Help me help you and just do it.
Either adb pull /system/user/keylayout/supersonic-keypad.kl
Or
Use root explorer and just text edit that file. We want to change key 115 from VOLUME_UP to BUTTON_L1
Remember to back up!! Save the file and reboot.
If you did an adb pull. You'll need to remember to adb push the file you just edited.
"Adb push supersonic-keypad.kl /system/user/keylayout/"
After the restart. Load up dead space and Viola! Easy weapon lowering!! If you want the function of that key back, restore your backup and reboot.
A problem with this method is you lose the ability to actually up volume..unless you change the file back and reboot again :/
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This is awesome! However, I do like keeping my Volume Up functionality :-/ is there a way to do this for my Home button or something? And does functionality return to normal for these buttons once the game is exited? I'm playing on a Samsung Galaxy S2. I'd much prefer to do this with the Home button since it's a hard physical button on the SGS2 rather than a soft key. I think everyone can agree we'd rather a modded version of the game where we have a method of lowering our weapon easily, heh.
Also, instead of pulling up the menu and exiting to lower weapon, I find that double-tapping on yourself to do the quick 180 turn is more convenient for lowering without a button mod.

rkaplan2 said:
This is awesome! However, I do like keeping my Volume Up functionality :-/ is there a way to do this for my Home button or something? And does functionality return to normal for these buttons once the game is exited? I'm playing on a Samsung Galaxy S2. I'd much prefer to do this with the Home button since it's a hard physical button on the SGS2 rather than a soft key. I think everyone can agree we'd rather a modded version of the game where we have a method of lowering our weapon easily, heh.
Also, instead of pulling up the menu and exiting to lower weapon, I find that double-tapping on yourself to do the quick 180 turn is more convenient for lowering without a button mod.
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Or bringing up your Nav Point Guide. Any of those work. And no, after exiting the game the functionality of the button doesn't come back. The only way to get it back is to reedit the file and reboot the phone. I have an Evo3D and have set the lower weapon button to "Focus" on the camera button. I don't lose the function of the actual camera button. Just the first click which is to focus the camera. I don't mind at all because I can still tap on the screen to focus in on something.
Since the GSII has physical buttons you might be able to change one of those. You should be able to change any hardware button except power of course. This mod really isn't as convenient if the phone doesnt have a camera button or some other button that isn't used hardly at all. Lol
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@OP.
Nice walkthrough and thanks for sharing. I doubt I'll personally use this, but still, thanks for sharing and good walkthrough/instructions.
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this is awesome...my only issue is i am having a really hard time finding the apk...
any hint ..

i also cannot find the game any where. im willing to buy it, just cant find it.

[Q] Pantech Crossover Button Mapping Issues

Today I did a software reset so I could let me fiance use my phone since it was a little better than her outdated Huwei. Upon rebooting the Home button no longer funtioned. It will still wake the screen however it does not function in any other way (so obviously its not a physical issue).
I was able to pull up the files to view the mapped buttons and even tried the app on xda for button remapping. However the crossover comes with an extra function button in the top left corner which doesn't function at all any more. This tells me that the mapping file was over written with an incompatible file. Possibly an issue with a wrong file being assigned after a software reset. Not quite sure.
What I would like to happen is to see if anyone else here has a Pantech Crossover and can simply send me there button assignment files.
Another issue I ran into after the reset was the notification bar (still shows at the top) is not draggable. I am not able to pull it down or even hit the "notifications" button under the menu when you hit the menu button from the home screen.
I am no noob to technology so feel free to ask for anything. If you have a crossover and are unsure on how to get those files please let me know and I will direct you. (Please already be rooted.. there are plenty of great guides on these forums on how to do this for both firmware versions available)

No menu button?

Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.

bonapartist said:
Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
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'Y' should be acting as a menu button. Unless ScummVM maps it to something else, it should bring the menu up.

Gnurou said:
'Y' should be acting as a menu button. Unless ScummVM maps it to something else, it should bring the menu up.
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AFAIK ScummVM is a derelict project - fully functioning and fully featured but no longer updated. It will likely never have anyone tailoring Shield support for it. So I have no way whatsoever to access the menu once in game, and hence no way to save or load, making most games essentially fruitless to play given their nature as long graphic adventures. I think the exclusion of a menu button is a bummer and a deficiency. They could of coded so a double press of the Nvidia button registers as a menu press, or something akin to that; knowing how cool Nvidia is, I imagine they'll either add this in, or their openness about the Shield will allow a custom rom to force it in... Still, it's a bummer right now that ScummVM is essentially "broken" on the Shield. 15+ years of superb graphic adventures.. Nuts.
I know the menu button is no longer a requirement on Android devices, but I for one am very sorry to see it go, even outside of implications for old Android applications that do not get freqeuent updates such as ScummVM.
Also the lack of a menu button means I can't bring up the keyboard at will in apps such as Dosbox! That's a huge problem! Being able to bring up the keyboard whenever you want was useful in many, many applications, I don't know why they would ever eliminate that.

I've yet to try SCUMM on the shield but there isn't a way to bring it up by swiping the screen?
On Dosbox, the keyboard can be brought up by swiping down from the top of the screen. Maybe it can be done somehow with ScUMM.

saiyan23 said:
I've yet to try SCUMM on the shield but there isn't a way to bring it up by swiping the screen?
On Dosbox, the keyboard can be brought up by swiping down from the top of the screen. Maybe it can be done somehow with ScUMM.
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Is there an App like Button savior which has a menu button?? I use that app on my nook tablet which only has one button but I don't recall there being a menu button

If you're rooted you can use tincore keymapper and make whatever button you want into the menu button. Just run it when you run the emulator.
"Home 2 shortcut" could also work. Like someone above said it could assign menu to double tap of the home button. I've not tried it on the shield though. Though I'm not sure it can be used like this...It might only work to launch apps.

My FIrsthand Solution
bonapartist said:
Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
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I know this is an old post, but it came up on google when I was trying to resolve this problem myself. I decided to sign up and post the solution I found incase someone else searches the web trying to fix this problem.
I'm using the Nvidia Shield, but i believe this Build of ScummVM resolves problems for a lot of Android Devices:
google: ScummVm svn55436 1-1-0-7 (I Can't post links as a new user)
This is a stand-alone version of ScummVm, it offers an onscreen keyboard, as well as the ability to map buttons--resolving the issue of accessing a menu to save/load your game progress
Here is what I did using Nvidia Shield:
1. unistalled any Scumm apps I had
2. Using the chrome browser I went to: H TTP anddev.at.ua/load/scummvm_svn55436/1-1-0-7 (OR) google: ScummVM svn55436 1-1-0-7 (Again, I Can't post links as a new user)
the download link is at the top of the post
3. I went to settings>security> Check "Unknown Sources" UnCheck "Verify apps"
(This prevents Android from blocking installation switch these settings back after step 4.)
4. I then went to apps>downloads> and clicked "7_scummvm-sdl-1.7.apk" to install it
5. once installed I opened the program, I spent sometime configuring things in a trial by error fashion
Here's my configuration settings to my best recollection:
1. Video Settings> Check--Keep 4:3 screen aspect ratio
2. Mouse Emulation> Calibrate Touchscreen
3.Remap Physical Keys> (I pressed the "left shoulder" button on my gamepad)> Select Action> (scroll down) Show all Keycodes> then select "F5" <<<<This Lets you access the menu so you can SAVE/LOAD!!!!!

Were you able to use the analog stick to control the cursor? Mine acts very erratic. I followed your instructions and scumm works fine but I just that issue.

saiyan23 said:
Were you able to use the analog stick to control the cursor? Mine acts very erratic. I followed your instructions and scumm works fine but I just that issue.
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I've been able to get by just fine using the touchscreen. The joystick is a little funky on me too, any movement tends to send the cursor drifting offscreen.
The guy who did this build, I believe, designed it for android devices in general and not specifically for the Shield, so if you want the analog joystick working you might be s-o-l.
I have to say though, the touchscreen is working pretty good for me--I'd give it shot and try to get used to it.