Hi to hall.
I bought an HTC Sensation with HBOOT 1.17. I've rooted it with the Official LEAK ROM, Sense 3.5 "2.08.401.1_stock_rooted_signed-v0.3.zip" ad S-OFF it.
Unfortunately I had to follow the procedure of S-ON to send back the phone in technical assistance.
Now I have my phone with display repaired, but the assistance have upgrated my HBOOT in new version 1.19.
These are bootloader informations:
*** UNLOCKED ***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.19.0000
eMMC-boot
Sep 6 2011,19:13:20
If i try the S-OFF with the revolutionary.io site it tell me tath the 1.19 is not supported.
How can i have the permanent root and the S-OFF?
Thank's and merry christmas to everybody.
can't you run RUU to reflash hboot to early version you use it to flash the revolutionary.io hboot back to stock
I'm a newbie, have you a guide or an how-to url?
Tanks
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
UP!
Nobody knows a solution to my problem?
You could try to flash back to hboot 1.17, check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20681060&postcount=22.
Just place the file (it must be called PG58IMG.zip) on the root folder of your sd-card, triple check md5 and then boot into bootloader to flash it.
If that works use should be able to S-Off.
Edit: Here are the same instructions (it's about firmware flashing but it's the same method, my reference is also mentioned there)
Edit2: I think Madenssblade is talking about flashing back to an earlier STOCK rom, see here, you can try that if the above does not work
Thank's a lot!
A question, if i launch the downgrade, it will destroy all my data?
If you flash the new ROM, yes (but not the data on your sdcard).
If you succeed in flashing the new hboot, no.
Good luck, I don't know if this all works given your device is S-ON, but it's worth a try (your HBOOT says unlocked).
A small update.
Yesterday i installed the app 4EXT Recovery Control and i noticed with surprise that i still root; perhaps it was sleeping in the state.
I cannot yet find a guide to give the S-OFF at HBOOT 1.19 .
ziopippo said:
I'm a newbie, have you a guide or an how-to url?
Tanks
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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Hi, try to downgrade your firmware. I am not sure but it may work. Try the following.
A. Downgrading the firmware
Visit this thread. Download v1.17 firmware . Are u having superCID? If so then you can download any v1.17 firmware else choose that firmware file which includes your CID. If you are not sure about your CID follow that same thread to find it.
Flash the firmware by the following method.
1. place Firmware PG58IMG.zip (v1.17) on the root of your sdcard.
2. Remove the battery.
3. Wait a minute.
4. Put the battery.
5.Press power+ volume- key together.
6.Phone will boot into bootloader.
7.Follow the instruction on your phone screen.
If the firmware downgrade successfull then Perform Revolutionary method to make your device S-OFF. If this method does not work try flashing an RUU.
B. Flashing an older RUU (HBOOT 1.17 )
Find a suitable RUU from here.
If RUU Flashing fails, boot into bootloader. Then retry to flash the RUU.
Then try to follow Revolutionary method.
musarraf172 said:
Hi, try to downgrade your firmware. I am not sure but it may work. Try the following.
A. Downgrading the firmware
Visit this thread. Download v1.17 firmware . Are u having superCID? If so then you can download any v1.17 firmware else choose that firmware file which includes your CID. If you are not sure about your CID follow that same thread to find it.
Flash the firmware by the following method.
1. place Firmware PG58IMG.zip (v1.17) on the root of your sdcard.
2. Remove the battery.
3. Wait a minute.
4. Put the battery.
5.Press power+ volume- key together.
6.Phone will boot into bootloader.
7.Follow the instruction on your phone screen.
If the firmware downgrade successfull then Perform Revolutionary method to make your device S-OFF. If this method does not work try flashing an RUU.
B. Flashing an older RUU (HBOOT 1.17 )
Find a suitable RUU from here.
If RUU Flashing fails, boot into bootloader. Then retry to flash the RUU.
Then try to follow Revolutionary method.
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I have tried this process several times but my HTC says "Parsing PG58IMG.zip"
could this be because i am S-ON? i am trying to downgrade from 1.23
slimldj said:
I have tried this process several times but my HTC says "Parsing PG58IMG.zip"
could this be because i am S-ON? i am trying to downgrade from 1.23
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Did you try Flashing an RUU?
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk
musarraf172 said:
Did you try Flashing an RUU?
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk
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yes. but when i try to, the phone enters the "black htc screen" and after a couple of minutes i get error 155 from the RUU saying i should get the corrent ROM Update utility.
i dont know whats wrong
Also i have tried to get the rom.zip from the temp folder of my computer sourced from the RUU. changed the name to P......zip so that bootloader can flash. it just ends up saying "parsing P........zip"
slimldj said:
yes. but when i try to, the phone enters the "black htc screen" and after a couple of minutes i get error 155 from the RUU saying i should get the corrent ROM Update utility.
i dont know whats wrong
Also i have tried to get the rom.zip from the temp folder of my computer sourced from the RUU. changed the name to P......zip so that bootloader can flash. it just ends up saying "parsing P........zip"
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As I said earlier , be in bootloader mode first. Then flash RUU. Error 155 should go off.
musarraf172 said:
As I said earlier , be in bootloader mode first. Then flash RUU. Error 155 should go off.
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tried that as well.. as soon as the RUU says sending, i see the error again... 155
slimldj said:
tried that as well.. as soon as the RUU says sending, i see the error again... 155
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Hope surely the following posts will help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469296
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478828
musarraf172 said:
Hope surely the following posts will help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469296
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478828
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hello excuse the disorder but having the same problem on and hboot 1.19 s-on can not flash a stock ruu wanted to ask if you found a way to put s-off.
Hi,
I'm trying to go to the stock rom because I have to return my phone because I have battery problems and dust behind my screen.
But when I try to flash a stock rom it doesn't work. It says that I using the wrong image update.
Current image is 1.11.401.110 and I want to go to the lastest stock rom 3.32.401.105
What do I have to do?
Thanks
What was the original CID ? What CID do you now have ?
1.11.401....... wow that seems really old.
x.xx.401.... will need CID "HTC__001" or SuperCID "11111111".
What exactly does it say when you run the RUU ? Does it connect OK to the Sensation, does it say what the existing version is on the phone ?
gol_n_dal said:
What was the original CID ? What CID do you now have ?
1.11.401....... wow that seems really old.
x.xx.401.... will need CID "HTC__001" or SuperCID "11111111".
What exactly does it say when you run the RUU ? Does it connect OK to the Sensation, does it say what the existing version is on the phone ?
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I at the moment I have SuperCID so '11111111'.
My sensation was connected correctly to the pc
And do you need my Hboot version or my firmware?
My Hboot: 1.27.1100
Firmware: 3.33 full package
Greetz
tommeke19 said:
I at the moment I have SuperCID so '11111111'.
My sensation was connected correctly to the pc
And do you need my Hboot version or my firmware?
My Hboot: 1.27.1100
Firmware: 3.33 full package
Greetz
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OK I don't understand where 1.11.401.110.... figures in the situation. If I understand correctly that is a custom ROM based off a different platform with Sense 4.0. Probably wrong though..
Are you fully S-OFF (clutching at straws here). Assuming you are you should be able to install an RUU easily. I recently went from 3.32.161.... to 3.32.401.. then back to 1.27.161... with no issues at all.
I'm sure someone more able than me can help you here.
GL
tommeke19 said:
I at the moment I have SuperCID so '11111111'.
My sensation was connected correctly to the pc
And do you need my Hboot version or my firmware?
My Hboot: 1.27.1100
Firmware: 3.33 full package
Greetz
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ok you are SOFF seeing that you have revolutionary HBOOT ..
so when returning stock ...its better to flash the correct stock...which can be found using CID
but as you have supercid now ...you need to know your original cid or the carrier/country the phone is linked to ..for finding the proper stock RUU
this guide helps you in fiding the proper stock RUU and it has flashing instructions too
Hi,
I followed the link and tried to get my CID but I only get 11111111 so i don't know what I have to download now
Install "cid getter" from the market.
AFAIK the entry for "ro.cid" should tell you your original CID.
e.g. It says VODAP001 for me while "fastboot getvar cid" gives "11111111".
tommeke19 said:
Hi,
I followed the link and tried to get my CID but I only get 11111111 so i don't know what I have to download now
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from which country you bought the phone from and to which carrier it is linked to ?
Thanks everyone for helping me, but after using google I've found a site and found the solution.
Hi guys!
I have some problem with HTC Sensation. It boots only till HTC logo. And nothing more! On this device isn't OS.
Some guys said that I need to install RUU exe file through computer. I did it but received error 130 (need other version of RUU, I think).
So can you recommend something?
S-ON, hboot 1.18.000, radio 10.14.9035.02_02
Thank you!
Flexaitis said:
Hi guys!
I have some problem with HTC Sensation. It boots only till HTC logo. And nothing more! On this device isn't OS.
Some guys said that I need to install RUU exe file through computer. I did it but received error 130 (need other version of RUU, I think).
So can you recommend something?
S-ON, hboot 1.18.000, radio 10.14.9035.02_02
Thank you!
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What exactly do you mean by "On this device isn't OS".Do you mean you haven't install some custom OS on your device or it has no OS at all.If you have erase the OS the bootloop is something natural.
I did a google search for your radio version and according to this I found answers only on some german forums.So your cid (as long as you are s-on) should be possibly a German or a European one.
You can download the latest Europe version from here and give it a try.
You can find your cid number using fastboot.Just get into fastboot mode of your hboot and give the command fastboot getvar cid.
If your bootloader is HTCDEV unlocked give the commands:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
fastboot reboot-bootloader
After that your hboot should say Relocked instead of Unlocked.Then install the RUU.
You could also give it S-OFF using this guide (Does not require HTCDEV unlock method):
[GUIDE] Juopunutbear S-OFF NO HTCDEV UNLOCK | ROOT (1.2x HBOOTS)
If you are S-ON you can use a RUU only with hboot 1.18 in your case
Read this topic to know all about RUU
claudianolo said:
If you are S-ON you can use a RUU only with hboot 1.18 in your case
Read this topic to know all about RUU
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Why exactly he should use an RUU with hboot 1.18?!
I know that the version of hboot can be upgraded normally but cannot be downgraded as long as you are S-ON.If you are S-OFF you can downgrade everything.Also if you want to install an older RUU and you are S-ON you have to use a gold card and you patch the version of the misc partition to an equal or lower one for the RUU you are going to use.
Flexaitis said:
Hi guys!
I have some problem with HTC Sensation. It boots only till HTC logo. And nothing more! On this device isn't OS.
Some guys said that I need to install RUU exe file through computer. I did it but received error 130 (need other version of RUU, I think).
So can you recommend something?
S-ON, hboot 1.18.000, radio 10.14.9035.02_02
Thank you!
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Hi,
Try THIS ONE
Did you unlock your phone with HTC DEV?
If not, then , DO NOT.
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor. Currently service provider is Koodo - a division of Telus (in Canada).
CID: ROGER001
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
arjundas86 said:
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor.
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
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Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
LS.xD said:
Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
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I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
arjundas86 said:
I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
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SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
LS.xD said:
SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
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Thanks for the toolkit.
cid: ROGER001
Btw, what's the purpose of going SuperCID?
Also, I don't want to install lower hboot. I am on hboot 1.08 and I think I need to install hboot 2.15. Right?
I guess S-OFF isn't absolutely necessary, but would be nice to have. Would you recommend using the S-OFF command from the toolkit you linked?
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
With superCID you can switch to other CIDs e.g. for unbranding your device Also it's needed for "Facepalm S-OFF" (Was the only working method for me)
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk
LS.xD said:
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk
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I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
arjundas86 said:
I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
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As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
LS.xD said:
As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
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Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
arjundas86 said:
Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
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Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
LS.xD said:
Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
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Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
arjundas86 said:
Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
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To run a RUU NOT MATCHING your stock CID you need S-OFF // SuperCID. You cant install TMobile RUU at first :/
I would act like this:
Run latest Rogers RUU --> READ FACEPALM GUIDE CAREFULLY. There is how to gain SuperCID and then S-OFF. Once done you can change CID to whatever you want and run a (unbranded) RUU with HBoot 2.15.
But that is just what i thought about it. I suggest to let someone else CONFIRM the way suggested by me first.
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
@Rapier
thank you for the provided help as usual
Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
LS.xD said:
...Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
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For you? NO. You're better than me
The story is like this. I bought the phone in 2012. At that time, the highest hboot was 1.14 I believe (don't remember exactly) and there was no S-Off method available (they appeared later). There was something else tho. The lower hboots (1.09 and lower) permitted to write in the kernel partition or radio partition like an S-Off device. HTC then covered this in the higher hboots. So even if there was no S-Off method, there was a downgrade method that was used to downgrade the hboot from whatever you had to 1.09 or below. I downgraded mine to 1.06...don't ask why I didn't choose 1.09, I thought that was the RUU I considered to be fine for me at that time.
Now being on hboot 1.06 I can do anything except I cannot flash firmwares directly. So I cannot flash a new hboot with red letters removed for example. But I don't care about this...I can flash radios or kernels or splash screens like any S-Off user. The procedure for getting latest firmware and S-Off seems a little bit risky and I've read about alot of issues or problems from people who failed or tried countless times to reach that. So I've asked myself why should I do that if I don't need it?
Then it came the rumor and there were some brick cases of devices that were having some Android 4.3 ROMs and were not on latest firmware (in the meantime 2.13 and 2.15 hboots arise and also the S-Off method). It proved to be not the firmware fault after all. But CM team has included a check in the updater script of the ROM ZIP, to validate if the hboot was 2.13 or 2.15...if not, the flash won't happen. It's a simple assert command present there at the beginning of the script that do the check. As CM team was the pioneer in having the newest Android version ROMs available, everybody based initially their ROMs/builds on CM...so the check in the script was automatically carried over to all the ROMs out there. And it's still here.
As I've tested and I could run fine those ROM's (by removing the check before flash), I noticed that this requirement does not apply to everyone. Some could run fine the ROMs even if they're not on the "latest" firmware.
So that's why I am on 1.06...cause I don't know why should I go through some risky procedures when I don't need to.
Rapier said:
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
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I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
Rapier said:
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
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I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
LS.xD said:
I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
Just IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
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Yes, you're right. That's what I meant. I will delete the updater-script lines that Rapier mentioned before trying to install CM11.
If it doesn't work, at least I can restore to my backup, without risk of bricking.
Then I can try the hboot update and s-off if required.
Thanks.
arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444....
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want
arjundas86 said:
...I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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It's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
BUT, if you're NOT going to upgrade your firmware and you'll be lucky to have the ROM working, you won't need to S-Off since your current hboot is lower than 1.09 and allows you to flash radios and kernels directly from recovery.
And at this point, as you said, it worth a try like you are now and only if it's not working like this you should upgrade and do S-Off. I guess is much easier and less risky to remove 4 lines from that script and flash the ROM to see if it's working, than to go through the firmware upgrade & S-Off procedures
Rapier said:
Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't wantIt's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
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Hey Rapier,
I'm having trouble doing getting the zip signed.
I tried the zip signer you had in your guide, as well as a bunch of other zip signing programs, but none of them seem to do the job. I keep getting Error: Status 7.
Not getting bootloops or anything like that, so I was able to restore to my backup. No harm done.