A while back, I always rooted and unrooted my Nexus S with no problems at all. Now whenever I try to root it, it just goes wrong. I've tried TWRP & CWM, CWM used to always work but now it just messes up. Both TWRP and CWM both give me an error that say Installation Aborted when I try to install a custom rom. I've redownloaded the rom from different browsers and even different PCs but nothing working, still that same error. Does anyone have a guide that is 100% to work without any errors during the process?
What guide are you using?
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What guide are you using?
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I used this one: http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/
1. Make sure you're running one the more recent versions of the custom recovery. You probably are but there are issues with older versions so just make sure.
2. Boot into what ever recovery you pick and do a full wipe. That is everything gets wiped but your SD card. Factory reset. Format /system etc.
3. Flash your ROM and gapps if they are seperate.
You should not get any errors. If your recovery is current and your flashing a new rom onto a fully wiped system and you still get a error either you're screwing something up or you may have a hardware problem.
To rule out a hw problem flash the factory images with fastboot. If those flash normally and everything works it is almost certainly user error.
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1. Make sure you're running one the more recent versions of the custom recovery. You probably are but there are issues with older versions so just make sure.
2. Boot into what ever recovery you pick and do a full wipe. That is everything gets wiped but your SD card. Factory reset. Format /system etc.
3. Flash your ROM and gapps if they are seperate.
You should not get any errors. If your recovery is current and your flashing a new rom onto a fully wiped system and you still get a error either you're screwing something up or you may have a hardware problem.
To rule out a hw problem flash the factory images with fastboot. If those flash normally and everything works it is almost certainly user error.
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Alright, thanks Do you recommend that I root my Nexus S or should I wait for the Jelly Bean update? I've rooted before and I enjoyed it but now I don't see that many reasons to root, do you have any good reasons?
I have many. My reasons for root don't matter. If you don't have a reason for root then don't root. Its that simple really.
Make sure you're on a stock 4.0.4 rom. When the ota is out install it.
If you want just root on either os at any time just flash su.zip from custom recovery. Its that simple. Having root on a stock rom does not affect the ota process.
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I have many. My reasons for root don't matter. If you don't have a reason for root then don't root. Its that simple really.
Make sure you're on a stock 4.0.4 rom. When the ota is out install it.
If you want just root on either os at any time just flash su.zip from custom recovery. Its that simple. Having root on a stock rom does not affect the ota process.
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What are your reasons for root? Please share?
Getting rid of stuff I don't want in a ROM.
Apps that do things that require root.Titanium backup/autoruns adaway ( ad blocker app alone could be its one point) etc
Changing kernel settings. Bid/bin clocks volts etc.
Being able to have a replacement launcher use the ICS style widget drawer.
Lastly , I simply just can't see having a computer that I don't have root/admin rights to. Its my damn device and I do what I want.
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Getting rid of stuff I don't want in a ROM.
Apps that do things that require root.Titanium backup/autoruns adaway ( ad blocker app alone could be its one point) etc
Changing kernel settings. Bid/bin clocks volts etc.
Being able to have a replacement launcher use the ICS style widget drawer.
Lastly , I simply just can't see having a computer that I don't have root/admin rights to. Its my damn device and I do what I want.
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Oh cool. There is this project that some members from XDA are working on called Sense4All and they are porting Sense to many devices. Im probably going to wait until a fully functionable release is available for the Nexus S. I do like AOKP a lot, so that might be a reason for why I'll root.
You seem to be a little confused with some terms. Root is simply being able to grant superuser permission.
You don't need to root to flash a custom rom on a nexus. Just a unblocked bootloader. You could run aokp or any other rom without root if you wanted to.
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You seem to be a little confused with some terms. Root is simply being able to grant superuser permission.
You don't need to root to flash a custom rom on a nexus. Just a unblocked bootloader. You could run aokp or any other rom without root if you wanted to.
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Oh, I never knew that, haha. Is it possible to flash a custom kernel with an unlocked bootloader or does that require root access?
m1l4droid said:
No you just need a custom recovery. But using that kernel's mods, like BLN, OC, UV, touchwake, etc, requires apps that need root, like NSTools, SetCPU, etc.
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Oh alright. Now I really wanna root + install a custom rom. Do any of you have a full 100% fully working guide for rooting Nexus S and which rom should I flash first? I already know what kernel I want.
http://forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php?2024-ACS-Nexus-S-One-Click-Root-V4-0
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http://forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php?2024-ACS-Nexus-S-One-Click-Root-V4-0
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Thank you so much! I rooted my phone with CWM recovery installed and Paranoid Android + gapps installed
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I don't want to run custom ROMs, I like the Gingerbread from Google and want to easily continue to receive updates.
That being said, I want to be able to run DroidWall and AdFree, and have to have root to do so.
Is there a way to get root, without installing a custom recovery or Clockwork or anything? And still easily receive updates to Gingerbread?
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I don't want to run custom ROMs, I like the Gingerbread from Google and want to easily continue to receive updates.
That being said, I want to be able to run DroidWall and AdFree, and have to have root to do so.
Is there a way to get root, without installing a custom recovery or Clockwork or anything? And still easily receive updates to Gingerbread?
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I don't think you can apply the su zip file from the stock recovery, but you can try. If it were that easy, there'd be news of it all over the net!
I think you're going to have to unlock the bootloader and then do the fastboot install of CWM.
I'm on stock Gingerbread, but rooted. I prefer CWM to stock recovery...more options, and especially nandroid backup. I got my 2.3.2 update faster than most, because I was still able to push it manually rather than wait for OTA to someday show up, so no issue there, you just have to wait for someone to post its url.
The 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 updates have a script that rewrites stock recovery on top of CWM if you're on either of those, so you get back to stock with each reboot.
If you're running Android 2.3.1 then use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882333 to root.
Android 2.3.0 will be GRH55. Paul hasn't updated SuperBoot for Android 2.3.2.
This method definitely works. I performed it while I was testing the device for any hardware defects. I was able to be rooted without changing the recovery. Make sure you have ADB drivers and 2.3 SDK for the Nexus S installed.
IDtheTarget said:
I don't want to run custom ROMs, I like the Gingerbread from Google and want to easily continue to receive updates.
That being said, I want to be able to run DroidWall and AdFree, and have to have root to do so.
Is there a way to get root, without installing a custom recovery or Clockwork or anything? And still easily receive updates to Gingerbread?
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First and foremost, you should understand that installing a custom recovery will do nothing to block your ability to receive updates from Google nor will it affect your system in anyway. However, if you follow one of the root methods like this one you will install the custom recovery needed to fix permissions to gain root access but if you ignore the step that has you change the name of a file through root explorer, the next time you reboot your custom recovery will be overwritten by the stock one and you will retain root.
Again, its important to know that having a custom recovery allows you to do a lot more than just flash roms. You can do back ups of your NAND memory that allow you to save all of your data, files, settings, et cetera in the case of catastrophic failures or the need to get a replacement handset. If you do a backup maybe once a month and keep them on your computer, you will always be able to restore your phone exactly back to how it was before issues arose.
There is really no downside to having a custom recovery like Clockwork Recovery Mod, but if you are really against it for moral reasons (that is literally the only reason you would not want to install it) then use the method I described and you will be rooted without CWM.
Agreed with what Kenvan said, the Nexus S is a 'unlocked' bootloader phone and considered a "developer phone." The phone is meant to be altered with a bunch of modifications and hacks.
Not sure why you want to cripple your phone by not flashing custom ROMs. They're created to fascinate the Android experience with improvements made to it. But everybody has their reasons, and are entitled to them right?
Just pointing out my 2 cents. Especially when you're on a forum where a large % of the community are here to modify their phones to the highest extent.
zephiK said:
Not sure why you want to cripple your phone by not flashing custom ROMs. They're created to fascinate the Android experience with improvements made to it. But everybody has their reasons, and are entitled to them right?.
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LOL. Not flashing custom ROMs is hardly "crippling your phone".
That's like saying not installing a turbo-charger is crippling your porsche...
But I agree, once the custom stuff out there is into actual full public-release, I'll be testing it, but meanwhile a Nexus S on Gingerbread stock is a fine experience...BEST experience on any Android I've had, even supercharged Nexus One and Galaxy S i9000 ROMs.
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LOL. Not flashing custom ROMs is hardly "crippling your phone".
That's like saying not installing a turbo-charger is crippling your porsche...
But I agree, once the custom stuff out there is into actual full public-release, I'll be testing it, but meanwhile a Nexus S on Gingerbread stock is a fine experience...BEST experience on any Android I've had, even supercharged Nexus One and Galaxy S i9000 ROMs.
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you both make good points. My point was that there its no reason not install a custom recovery, even if one is staying stock
Sent from my Nexus S
I agree. No reason to not use CWM recovery. Google should buy rights to it from him.
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I don't want to run custom ROMs, I like the Gingerbread from Google and want to easily continue to receive updates.
That being said, I want to be able to run DroidWall and AdFree, and have to have root to do so.
Is there a way to get root, without installing a custom recovery or Clockwork or anything? And still easily receive updates to Gingerbread?
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I'm wondering the same thing myself.
I just found out that it's possible to boot into the Clockwork recovery without flashing it first. I managed to do this by booting into fastboot mode (power + volume up) and then do
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fastboot boot recovery-clockwork-3.0.0.5-crespo.img
This was on a stock but rooted 2.3.2, and the bootloader was locked. I didn't try to apply any update.zip, but nandroid backup seemed to work perfectly.
If you don't remove/delete the "/etc/install-recovery.sh" file once you've flashed a new recovery then you *should* find that the default/stock bootloader is re-applied on the first reboot.
As others have mentioned though, there are plenty of benefits to applying a custom recovery although I do understand the reasons you may not want to.
Thanks, all! Okay, maybe I *will* do the Clockwork Recovery then.
The reason I don't want custom ROMs: I had a Vibrant, and was using Team Whiskey's ROMs, and got "Compulsive ROM disorder". Every TW ROM was better than the last, and I found myself flashing every time they came out with a new one.
I'm going to Afghanistan in a couple of months (leaving for some training on Tuesday), and if I can get Internet at all, I won't have the bandwidth to be constantly downloading the newest, coolest ROM. The stock Gingerbread is good enough for me, and I want to keep it. Plus, that way if my wife has problems with her Nexus S while I'm gone, I have another just like it with me to figure out what's wrong with hers.
I just need root to run DroidWall and AdFree so that if I *do* manage to get a data plan out there, I won't run up huge fees because somebody wants me to buy Viagra or something.
Thanks again!
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This was on a stock but rooted 2.3.2, and the bootloader was locked. I didn't try to apply any update.zip, but nandroid backup seemed to work perfectly.
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Wow, that's a great find.
IDtheTarget said:
Thanks, all! Okay, maybe I *will* do the Clockwork Recovery then.
The reason I don't want custom ROMs: I had a Vibrant, and was using Team Whiskey's ROMs, and got "Compulsive ROM disorder".
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I fully understand that about the Compulsive ROM flashing disorder. I developed a bit of a case of it with the DocRambone ROMs on my Galaxy S i9000. It became a full time job just keeping up with the forum posts in the thread there. Hundreds of posts per day...ugh! But a sweet ROM.
As I'm sure you've ascertained by our other replies to you, having custom recovery is a benefit whether you flash roms constantly or not.
The ability to do a Nandroid and have a nice working backup of your entire system to fall back on is a major plus, as is the ability to wipe dalvik-cache if you're having issues.
Good luck in Afghanistan!
Thanks!
Yes, I've decided to do the recovery for the Titanium backup as well.
Now if I can only get it to work!
I manually updated to 2.3.2 yesterday, then just now started to try rooting using the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
But I keep getting a signature error on the SuperUser flash. I'm guessing it has something to do with the new update.
IDtheTarget said:
Thanks!
Yes, I've decided to do the recovery for the Titanium backup as well.
Now if I can only get it to work!
I manually updated to 2.3.2 yesterday, then just now started to try rooting using the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
But I keep getting a signature error on the SuperUser flash. I'm guessing it has something to do with the new update.
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No, the su file should flash just fine, many of us no problems with it rooting on 2.3.2.
Which version of clockwork recovery did you flash? That post was linking to 3.0.0.0, but that one is buggy, and you want to get 3.0.0.5.
Try this one: http://koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-3.0.0.5-crespo.img
Push via fastboot.
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No, the su file should flash just fine, many of us no problems with it rooting on 2.3.2.
Which version of clockwork recovery did you flash? That post was linking to 3.0.0.0, but that one is buggy, and you want to get 3.0.0.5.
Try this one: http://koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-3.0.0.5-crespo.img
Push via fastboot.
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No, the problem was that I'm an idiot who hasn't had enough sleep.
I'd flashed that image but wasn't getting into Clockwork recovery. I downloaded ROM Manager and flashed that recovery and was able to update Super User.
Now my problems are (1) I can't rename /etc/install-recovery.sh because it's a read-only file system, and (2) I can't re-install my Astro Pro file manager until Google fixes the market to recognize the new update...
Thanks for the help!
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No, the problem was that I'm an idiot who hasn't had enough sleep.
I'd flashed that image but wasn't getting into Clockwork recovery. I downloaded ROM Manager and flashed that recovery and was able to update Super User.
Now my problems are (1) I can't rename /etc/install-recovery.sh because it's a read-only file system, and (2) I can't re-install my Astro Pro file manager until Google fixes the market to recognize the new update...
Thanks for the help!
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Try root explorer.
You don't have Titanium Backup to restore Astro...? Every root user should grab that.
You could rename it via adb shell.
Hook up to adb, connect.
run su
remount /system as writable.
use linux mv command to rename it.
I believe you can connect as su to the phone with adb while booted into CWM recovery. Then use CWM menu to mount /system, then do the commands from your computer's terminal or dos shell. Only advantage to this way is you don't have to figure out the proper syntax for remount of /system.
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You don't have Titanium Backup to restore Astro...? Every root user should grab that.
You could rename it via adb shell.
Hook up to adb, connect.
run su
remount /system as writable.
use linux mv command to rename it.
I believe you can connect as su to the phone with adb while booted into CWM recovery. Then use CWM menu to mount /system, then do the commands from your computer's terminal or dos shell. Only advantage to this way is you don't have to figure out the proper syntax for remount of /system.
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Couldn't use Titanium backup until I rooted...
Thanks! I used the following command to change permissions:
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
Then I:
cd \etc
mv install-recovery.sh install-recovery.sh.000
Looks like I'm set! Although there are still those few apps that aren't showing up yet after the update. Updating the market should be part of Google's checklist when pushing updates...
I've used the SuperBoot method twice and it's exactly what you're looking for. Stock ROM, Stock Recovery, and a rooted device with superuser permission.
This assumes you:
- Have the latest FROYO OTA installed 3.70.651.1
- Have some experience working with flashing things in recovery
- Have NOT deleted/uninstalled ANYTHING in /system
- Have defrosted any bloat you froze with Bloat Freezer or Ti Backup Pro
- Have S-OFF (Used Unrevoked Forever or a version of Unrevoked3 that includes Forever)
OK now let us get to it.
1. Go ahead and download the OTA like normal on your phone, but DO NOT install it.
2. Using a file manager copy the OTA zip file from /cache to /sdcard
3. Using Rom Manager, flash Amon RA Recovery 2.3 (Down at the bottom)
4. In Rom Manager, click the Reboot into Recovery button.
5. Select apply zip from SD Card and flash the OTA zip file that you put in /sdcard
--10 Minutes later.....you now have the UNROOTED OTA installed just as if you installed it normally--
6. Download the 2.6.0.1 ClockWorkMod Recovery zip from here and place it in the root of your SD card
7. Under settings > applications > disable FastBoot (re-enable this when you are done with the whole process)
8. Power off and reboot holding Volume down. The bootloader will scan and then will and ask you to press Volume up to install. Reboot.
9. Delete the PC36IMG.zip file from your SD card and place the attachment below in the root of the SD card.
10. Power off and reboot holding Volume down and then select recovery to start CWM recovery.
11. Choose apply zip from sd card. Choose select zip on sd card. You will see the SU file on the list, flash it to root your phone. Reboot.
You should now be rooted and can upgrade the recovery now to whatever style and version you want!
Enjoy! Please click the THANKS button if it worked for you!
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Very cool!!
Great info ..hey if I follow these steps and skip the last part will my phone be stock / uprooted and good to go.for a trade in or repair? I've been trying to figure out the best way to unrest when.e3d comes out
I never updated to 3.70. I'm assuming I can do that the same way, root again, download the gingerbread, and root again?
I'm thinking it might just be easier to flash the rooted ROM and radios, but I'm not sure what's best.
if you have amon ra recovery (and a stock rom), you can simply download and click install.
I clicked install, amonra booted up, detected and ran update, click reboot, then the stock recovery will be active and updates the radios, once back in to sense, you can reinstall amonra or clockwork, then SU
worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109230
im curious why the title says "WITHOUT flashing a new ROM" yet you are clearly flashing the rom in amon ra. sorry just got to nit pick
what happens if you have deleted some system apps. Such as nova and blockbuster. I saved the APKS on the SD card however but I did delete them?
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what happens if you have deleted some system apps. Such as nova and blockbuster. I saved the APKS on the SD card however but I did delete them?
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Well I wouldn't want to try it unless your prepared to do a full ruu reset if it fails.
the OTA is like a patcher, it deletes unneeded files, adds new files, and updates existing files... if its not completely stock it may (or may not) cause an error which the updater can't handle, and then you may be left with a half upgraded system.
if you nandroid *before* downloading the ota, you should always be able to go back, assuming you have perm soff from unrevoked forever.
it should run whether you have removed files or not. if it tries to delete a file that does not exist the script will just skip it. op i think you have bit of confusion going on though. you were only able to reattain root because you are s-off from unrevoked forever. if you are not s-off and do your method, which is no different then just excepting the ota and letting it do its thing btw, you will loose root until this new ota is cracked. just fwi, there was no "magic" from you flashing manually, the same script is ran and the same files are moved and patches are made regardless.
cant I reinstall the apps and put the apks in their original system folder?
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it should run whether you have removed files or not. if it tries to delete a file that does not exist the script will just skip it. op i think you have bit of confusion going on though. you were only able to reattain root because you are s-off from unrevoked forever. if you are not s-off and do your method, which is no different then just excepting the ota and letting it do its thing btw, you will loose root until this new ota is cracked. just fwi, there was no "magic" from you flashing manually, the same script is ran and the same files are moved and patches are made regardless.
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Lol OK so which one is it? Can n just accept the ota and run? I'm rooted on stock rom, but I deleted nova and blockbuster from the system? I know I will loose root which I got by using unrevoked 3, but I just want to know if I can do it without bricking the phone. Ty
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Lol OK so which one is it? Can n just accept the ota and run? I'm rooted on stock rom, but I deleted nova and blockbuster from the system? I know I will loose root which I got by using unrevoked 3, but I just want to know if I can do it without bricking the phone. Ty
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shouldn't be any worry about bricking but make 100% sure you are s-off from unrevoked forever and you should be able to re-root pretty much how the op outlined.
im currently running cm7. if i go back to a rooted stock froyo rom, will this work???
confused. I just don't understand why you wouldn't download the rooted version of the ROM from here on XDA and just flash it like a normal rom. Maybe I'm overtired and missing the point.
To me, its like this. If you're rooted, and want an OTA update, just wait for the devs at XDA to go through it and root it, and make it available for download. Then just download it and flash it. You get the same exact update that way, as if you took the OTA from sprint. Except this way you don't risk losing root, and your good to go.
If you're not rooted and your phone is stock, accept OTA like normal.
I don't understand why all this extra stuff needs to be done, and add more to the confusion. If your rooted, updating to the latest is simple. Download it and flash it in recovery.
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im currently running cm7. if i go back to a rooted stock froyo rom, will this work???
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Just download the update from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Do a full wipe and flash like any other rom you've ever flashed before. You'll then be on the latest and greatest . (you'll probably be going right back to CM)
EDIT: and to the OP, sorry that I don't agree with you. I just find it more confusing that way, and I guess that whatever the point of doing it that way is, is sailing miles above my head.
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confused. I just don't understand why you wouldn't download the rooted version of the ROM from here on XDA and just flash it like a normal rom. Maybe I'm overtired and missing the point.
To me, its like this. If you're rooted, and want an OTA update, just wait for the devs at XDA to go through it and root it, and make it available for download. Then just download it and flash it. You get the same exact update that way, as if you took the OTA from sprint. Except this way you don't risk losing root, and your good to go.
If you're not rooted and your phone is stock, accept OTA like normal.
I don't understand why all this extra stuff needs to be done, and add more to the confusion. If your rooted, updating to the latest is simple. Download it and flash it in recovery.
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I see your point. I guess I am anxious. So there will be a stock ROM that is rooted, thats what I was wondering. I wasnt sure if every ROM would be customized somewhat...Thanks
DaEXfactoR said:
I see your point. I guess I am anxious. So there will be a stock ROM that is rooted, thats what I was wondering. I wasnt sure if every ROM would be customized somewhat...Thanks
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That link I supplied a couple posts up is a completely 100% stock and rooted version of the OTA update.
This is from the first paragraph of the first post of that thread.
"Stock 4.22.651.2 ROM, rooted and ready for your flashing pleasures. This is a completely stock ROM that has had nothing done to it outside of rooting & deodexing, it's not even zip aligned yet (sorry DrMacinyasha)
As always make sure your wipe your dalvik and create a nandroid before flashing."
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That link I supplied a couple posts up is a completely 100% stock and rooted version of the OTA update.
This is from the first paragraph of the first post of that thread.
"Stock 4.22.651.2 ROM, rooted and ready for your flashing pleasures. This is a completely stock ROM that has had nothing done to it outside of rooting & deodexing, it's not even zip aligned yet (sorry DrMacinyasha)
As always make sure your wipe your dalvik and create a nandroid before flashing."
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thanks for your insight. only thing I am confused on at this point is why there are kernels listed to flash from May just below it? wouldnt the htc stock kernel from the ota be in this rom already? seems like alot of folks are looking for newer kernels to flash after flashing xhaus rom. Any insight would be great. thanks again!
rileyd5 said:
thanks for your insight. only thing I am confused on at this point is why there are kernels listed to flash from May just below it? wouldnt the htc stock kernel from the ota be in this rom already? seems like alot of folks are looking for newer kernels to flash after flashing xhaus rom. Any insight would be great. thanks again!
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I was a little curious about why those kernels were linked there too. I honestly haven't really kept up with thread, because I don't have an interest in flashing the update to begin with. I noticed those kernels are from May 4th, so it doesn't seem like they'd be the most current one. Without reading that thread, I first would've presumed that the kernel that comes with the rom would be the one to use. So, you've read through the thread and you're seeing that people are having trouble with the kernel that the rom comes with?? I'll take a gander over in the thread in a few minutes and see what I make out of it.
Well I f'd up and installed the latest update straight from sprint, instead of waiting for the rooted version to come out. I guess I thought I would find something exciting, but now I would realize it was kind of worthless and want to go back to a different rom like miui or vaelpak. I am s-off with unrevoked. Is there some combination of the steps listed I can use to back out of this?
Let me take a guess...did this update my radios and hboot to a version that would be incompatible with these roms?
Can someone explain me why rooting a phone is not possible on all kernels? If I understand this correctly, rooting a phone basically means putting "su" program into firmware (and probably put something like SUID bit on it).
I know that on a new phone the original problem is that to install su you need to have write permissions for system partition which in turn requires root. This circle is normally broken by running an exploit or somehow else breaking into the system.
But once we have root on 2.3.4 and install CWM and 2.3.6, why isn't it possible to install "su" program there? What makes me feel completely stupid is the fact that it's possible to have root with custom kernel on the same firmware.
Dude, please update your information. It's possible, and it's getting the most popular method to root since we got CWM. Moreover there are at least 3 threads where it is written. So just go for it!
Ok, looks like my original vision was fully correct. Just got misleaded by some comments in the 2.3.6 thread. It IS really possible to just install superuser without changing the kernel or installing a custom kernel.
Oh yes it is just flash cam via odin, and then flash su via cwm and voila!
m.kochan10 said:
Oh yes it is just flash cam via odin, and then flash su via cwm and voila!
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I wish we knew it is so easy 2 months ago.
Indeed, but as far as I can remember we didn't have cwm then, just some rooted kernels.
This method itself is easy and pretty common among plenty android devices. That's the way I rooted my old htc incredible s (after I unlocked bootloader). But because cwm was sorely lacking it was a "no go".
Background:
I got myself a second-hand I9020T a couple of days back which had CWM recovery and a 4.0.4 Userdebug testkeys build on it. As circumstances turned out, I flashed the phone to the factory 4.1.2 (from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images), but didn't note down the details of the old 4.0.4 ROM.
I rather like stock roms. However, I like stock roms with root even more.
Questions:
I wanted to know if there was any method to root my Nexus S without resorting to using ClockworkMod recovery? I'm hoping for a z4root kind of method which doesn't mess around with the boot loader.
Does such a method even exist.
I'm hoping that I don't have to mess around with the boot loader, yet get root access and all the power to do direct querying of my SMS DB.
Note: I can install CWM recovery, but I'd rather not. It's just the superficial choice I'm making, not a well informed decision.
samveen said:
Background:
I got myself a second-hand I9020T a couple of days back which had CWM recovery and a 4.0.4 Userdebug testkeys build on it. As circumstances turned out, I flashed the phone to the factory 4.1.2 (from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images), but didn't note down the details of the old 4.0.4 ROM.
I rather like stock roms. However, I like stock roms with root even more.
Questions:
I wanted to know if there was any method to root my Nexus S without resorting to using ClockworkMod recovery? I'm hoping for a z4root kind of method which doesn't mess around with the boot loader.
Does such a method even exist.
I'm hoping that I don't have to mess around with the boot loader, yet get root access and all the power to do direct querying of my SMS DB.
Note: I can install CWM recovery, but I'd rather not. It's just the superficial choice I'm making, not a well informed decision.
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You don't have to mess with the bootloader itself, just the recovery.
And no, you will need a custom recovery to flash chainsDD superuser or chainfire SuperSU. There's TWRP also available and popular, if you simply do not like CWM.
polobunny said:
You don't have to mess with the bootloader itself, just the recovery.
And no, you will need a custom recovery to flash chainsDD superuser or chainfire SuperSU. There's TWRP also available and popular, if you simply do not like CWM.
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Is is possible to install the SU update (whichever of the 2) and go back to the stock recovery?
samveen said:
Is is possible to install the SU update (whichever of the 2) and go back to the stock recovery?
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Yes. I don't see why would one want to do that, but that's possible.
Once you're done with your flashing, you can flash stock Jellybean recovery from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032337
Hey, im pretty new to rooting and stuff, and i've already rooted my phone. But if I flash a custom ROM on my phone, will it wipe the root? (I have an HTC One M8)
ViperVenom2000 said:
Hey, im pretty new to rooting and stuff, and i've already rooted my phone. But if I flash a custom ROM on my phone, will it wipe the root? (I have an HTC One M8)
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Yes, it will wipe the root! I suggest you flash a CM based ROM since its got root toggle inbuilt in its developer settings. Cheers ?
sw1tchback said:
Yes, it will wipe the root! I suggest you flash a CM based ROM since its got root toggle inbuilt in its developer settings. Cheers
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Thanks!
sw1tchback said:
Yes, it will wipe the root! I suggest you flash a CM based ROM since its got root toggle inbuilt in its developer settings. Cheers
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So, something like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753248? WIll that have root? And, can you install superuser (Any version of Superuser) on any android version safely?
Well I'm very new at this as well and I see now that the road from sitting on your couch googling what is rooting to becoming a super hacker is a long one, I think I can help. With that being said I could be wrong too so research everything and double check. If you have root access before you do anything else install a custom recovery. I suggest TWRP. Then you want to focus on learning to create nandroid backups and Titanium backups. That way when things go awry all is not lost. THEN you can go for the ROMs. Research how to wipe your device properly with each flash. This is pretty important. TWRP recovery automatically tells you when your wipe has unrooted your device and gives you root again. May I ask is your bootloader already unlocked?
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Thanks!
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ViperVenom2000 said:
So, something like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753248? WIll that have root? And, can you install superuser (Any version of Superuser) on any android version safely?
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Yeah the ROM you mentioned should work fine for your device. Just follow the instructions in the guide step by step and all should go well. And yes, you'd have root inbuilt since its a CM based ROM, just enable Developer Options in settings and toggle Root Access in it to 'Apps only' or 'Apps and ADB'. I prefer using Chainfire's SuperSU, it should work well with your ROM. Good Luck Flashing ??
EDIT: I just noticed, the ROM you mentioned is a pretty old one. I suggest you flash CM 13 running Android 6.x Marshmallow, there is an official build for your device here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3256696
Check it out!
Thanks all! I found it out. I've unlocked my bootloader, and installed TWRP. Then, made a complete ROM Backup in case everything screws up. (I stored the backups and a stock ROM on a micro-SD card) Then, I installed a custom ROM running a CM based android Marshmallow (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753248), along with the Google Play apps .zip. Then, made a backup again, and now I'm all set! I think I will still delve into finding the best ROM for me! And all without bricking my phone. I also was successfully able to root my LG G Pad 7.0 LTE using Purple Drake with a special version of TWRP. Again, thanks for all the help! (The next thing I need to do is figure out how to Dual-Boot custom ROMs...)