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Unlocking bootloader without HTCDEV

Hello all,
I'm sure most if not everyone are already aware that we can unlock our bootloader through htcdev website. The only problem with unlocking that way is when you try to lock the bootloader again for warranty repair or w/e reason, the phone will have the status of "RELOCKED" AND "tampered" .....In other words, your phone will never be like factory condition again once the bootlocker is unlocked. That also means that we have permanently voided the warranty of our phone.
does anyone know another way to unlock bootloader? or anyone heard of any new development regarding that matter?
Thanks in advance for any inputs.

there are way too many threads regarding this.. as of yet there is no other way to unlock bootloader than by htcdev
having relocked on your hboot does not void warranty... having tampered can, however running an ruu will get rid of it so dont worry
run an ruu and relock the bootloader and your warranty in intact

azzledazzle said:
there are way too many threads regarding this.. as of yet there is no other way to unlock bootloader than by htcdev
having relocked on your hboot does not void warranty... having tampered can, however running an ruu will get rid of it so dont worry
run an ruu and relock the bootloader and your warranty in intact
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THank you for your response I was trying to figure this out when I was drunk, totally forgot that I posted this thread thanks again for your response!

Some clarification on upgrading to 4.0.4 with supercid would be greatly appreciated.

I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.

You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would still service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone except its harder

McMichael96 said:
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would style service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone accept its harder
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This is more about keeping my options open. I'm not planning on unlocking the bootloader unless I have to. I'm just trying to retain the method of doing so if I ever wanted/needed to while enjoying the latest update. Sorry for not stating my intentions clearly.

Lightfall said:
I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.

U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app

subarudroid said:
U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.

Lightfall said:
I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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but they would unless you manually went back in and removed supercid. This method will give you supercid which would then tell HTC you altered your phone lol.

eraste said:
Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.

Lightfall said:
So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.

eraste said:
yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?

Lightfall said:
So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.

eraste said:
Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.

Lightfall said:
I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
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lol

warranty

will i get my warranty by unlocking chacha after s-off or unlocking the bootloader or is there any step that maybe i get it back in future?

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vipul955 said:
will i get my warranty by unlocking chacha after s-off or unlocking the bootloader or is there any step that maybe i get it back in future?
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Your guaranty/warranty will avoid after unlocking your phone by anyway... :crying:
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i dont think warannty, i do unlock and root, but this phone price/performance device, i dont find one phone with camera flash 200$.
you can relocked = warranty is avaible.

Question about unlocking?

I have the unlocked us variant of the A9 and want to root it. Since its unlocked does that mean the bootloader is unlocked or do I still need to do that?

jhester1967 said:
I have the unlocked us variant of the A9 and want to root it. Since its unlocked does that mean the bootloader is unlocked or do I still need to do that?
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That means you're sim unlocked meaning you can use any gsm network I believe. To unlock the bootloader, use htcs dev program. To s-off, use sunshine after unlocking the bootloader and rooting. There is a thread for rooting this device and inside such thread are links to htcs dev program/bootloader unlock. Hope this helps!

AnierinB said:
That means you're sim unlocked meaning you can use any gsm network I believe. To unlock the bootloader, use htcs dev program. To s-off, use sunshine after unlocking the bootloader and rooting. There is a thread for rooting this device and inside such thread are links to htcs dev program/bootloader unlock. Hope this helps!
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No Simlock free is one thing but HTC A) unlocked means unlocked bootloader and you may flash roms without loss of warranty

JochenP said:
No Simlock free is one thing but HTC A) unlocked means unlocked bootloader and you may flash roms without loss of warranty
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That is true but doesn't the devices bootloader come locked? Because that's what I was getting at.

I want to relock the boot loader. How?

I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?

gunnyman said:
I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?
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via fastboot...
fastboot oem lock
I don't recall if it factory defaults, as I rarely lock

bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock

gunnyman said:
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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Download appropriate RUU from https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/collection-htcu-u11-ruu-firmware-t3612048 place it on SD card, rename to 2PZCIMG.zip, put SD card into phone, press & hold vol down and power button to boot into download mode and confirm RUU flashing (battery should be over 30 or something %)
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I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot

gunnyman said:
I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot
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I edited my post for better description. You should do what it says there (you need to boot to download mode).
Also relocking bootloader with twrp still installed is a no no

Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction

gunnyman said:
Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction
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Np.. Hope you get it sorted.
(the steps I described I described are for sd card method, if there is ruu exe for your variant you should just follow instructions once you start ruu exe on your computer)

I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.

gunnyman said:
I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.
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Good to hear :good:

Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!

tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.

velimircek said:
There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.
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Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.

tokenbest said:
Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.
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I got the same response from HTC Czech Republic: unlocking the bootloader would instantly void my warranty, plus they said that warranty-keeping bootloader unlock is possible only in that one special case for US customers, the rest of the world voids their warranty by doing so :/
Rant on the side: I truly despise not being allowed to get root privileges without voiding the warranty - it is MY device, yet I can't control the system. I want to do MY own backups, control (or inspect) the data apps save to MY phone, and control the configuration of MY system. I really hate being locked out from even such basic configurations as the hosts file is - I'm effectively barred from some aspects of web development so that advertisements can be shoved down my throat

gunnyman said:
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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How did you get it to relock? i keep getting a failed messaged with the command above.
C:\adb>fastboot oem lock
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FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.004s

tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.

EtherealRemnant said:
Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol

schmeggy929 said:
175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Hell no, I have no interest in dropping another 175 bucks, I think it's ridiculous but it is currently the only way to do a number of things with the device. I'd consider it if being able to unlock and relock the phone without HTC ever having a clue was a big deal or there was a Google edition and I needed to change the CID and MID or other things but honestly, I still have my 10 if I really need to get at something that was on that phone but not on this one (for example my Battle.net authenticator). I suppose I could always try Helium though with my desktop but I imagine that's a protected app like Google Authenticator which required root to backup and why I switched to Authy.
I mentioned the XTC2Clip because it is the only way to get S-OFF of any kind right now and to point out that even with its temp S-OFF, it still can't restore the bootloader to factory locked status. It's an important thing to point out, not everyone knows that HTC has two different locked statuses, one that proves the phone has been tampered with, and one that is factory locked. A lot of people ask to go back to stock so they can send it in for a warranty claim or a refund to go buy another device. The relocked bootloader obviously kills one or both options depending on the situation.

EtherealRemnant said:
Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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schmeggy929 said:
175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.

Galactus said:
Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.
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Yeah, a lot of people are claiming unlocked bootloader voids warranty now, however US is more relaxed. Every single HTC phone I had was returned with Unlocked Bootloader and S-off, never had a problem. Other countries are more strict I guess. I can understand not knowing the return policy and people relock for that reason(for returns) but I see many relocking for flashing RUU or firmware. This is not needed or even should be done. I'm a RUU flasher with each update, so I know no problems arise. This has been the case for the last 8,9 or 10 phones lol.