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So I'm looking to get a spare battery and a separate battery charger and came across this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00520BC3M/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=AE3JA6SQN3O85
No reviews so far so I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with Chichitec batteries in general. $30 for 2 batteries (1700 mah) and a charger seems like a good deal, that way I don't really have to spend time being plugged in. Too bad the battery door isn't as easy to open as I'd like to...
If you get them let me know how they work.
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Id say run....don't walk run....away from that link.
Cheapo batteries tend to cause perm damage. A el cheapo amazon battery for my g2 bricked one phone and almlost permabricked its replacement.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.
I don't know why people insist on a spare battery to change out each time the other one dies. Not only is it not practical if you can't charge the battery outside of the phone, but you'll be putting wear and tear on the battery cover and sooner or later you'll find it won't sit tight but will be loose in it's fit. That's why I just decided to invest in the 4500mah Mugen, even though I got a free replacement stock battery from Tmobile.
tackleberry said:
Id say run....don't walk run....away from that link.
Cheapo batteries tend to cause perm damage. A el cheapo amazon battery for my g2 bricked one phone and almlost permabricked its replacement.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.
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Chichitec is HTCExpress, their batteries aren't as bad as the ebay "cheapies". I had their 1800 in my Dinc and then G2, worked perfectly fine.
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I don't know why people insist on a spare battery to change out each time the other one dies. Not only is it not practical if you can't charge the battery outside of the phone, but you'll be putting wear and tear on the battery cover and sooner or later you'll find it won't sit tight but will be loose in it's fit. That's why I just decided to invest in the 4500mah Mugen, even though I got a free replacement stock battery from Tmobile.
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The chichitecs come with a separate charger to charge only the spare battery. But yeah, I'm worried that if I open the battery door frequently it will get loose or break.
@GideonX
When you used the chichitecs on those phones, did they at least last as long as the stock battery? That's really all I'm looking for
jacob808 said:
I don't know why people insist on a spare battery to change out each time the other one dies. Not only is it not practical if you can't charge the battery outside of the phone, but you'll be putting wear and tear on the battery cover and sooner or later you'll find it won't sit tight but will be loose in it's fit. That's why I just decided to invest in the 4500mah Mugen, even though I got a free replacement stock battery from Tmobile.
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I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning, it is a matter of perspective. It is just interesting how people can look at something differently. I think swapping batteries is a much more elegant solution then adding a gigantic protrusion to my phone. And battery covers are cheap, if it comes to that.
Cubeology said:
I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning, it is a matter of perspective. It is just interesting how people can look at something differently. I think swapping batteries is a much more elegant solution then adding a gigantic protrusion to my phone. And battery covers are cheap, if it comes to that.
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And where can you get G2x battery covers, might I ask?
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The chichitecs come with a separate charger to charge only the spare battery. But yeah, I'm worried that if I open the battery door frequently it will get loose or break.
@GideonX
When you used the chichitecs on those phones, did they at least last as long as the stock battery? That's really all I'm looking for
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Yup, actually lasted longer than stock in my case. Im also a very heavy user, voice and data.
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And where can you get G2x battery covers, might I ask?
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I've tried to find the post in this forum that had the link to the battery doors. They were actually to the LG Optimus 2x and required purchase of a min of 5 doors. Many have claimed that they have received replacement doors for free, both from T-mobile store and phone representatives.
With that said I must concede that they are not readily available. And I am surprised that 3rd party colorized replacements are not being marketed.
Personally I use accessories that would not work with the oversize cover that I do not want to give up: rubberized case, leather holster, and especially the bicycle mount. I suppose I am willing to take the risk that either the door won't break or if it does I'll be able to acquire the part. By that time there probably be enough dead G2X's around to find one on eBay.
I do have an external battery that recharges the phone, I should probably use it before resorting to swapping internal batteries. It's not that much trouble to use while still using phone, just a small object dangling from the charging/usb port on the phone.
Any more reviews on the CHICHITEC batteries, positive or negative? Do they report the correct temperature?
Thanks.
I ended up getting 2 3500 and 1 stand up spare charger for 25.
If you mind the bigger backdoor I say go for that.
But then again im really safe with my phone SO i dont end up dropping it.
One of the batteries is an OEM battery... not a "cheapy" battery. Just as reliable as the stock one you have in your phone right now..?
I also notice that. I wonder why?
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so I bought the 2x chichitec. I charged one and stuck it in my phone. The phone displayed 72% and 4190mV. WTF??? The voltage is believable - what piece of s/w or h/w came up with 72%? Also, the temp is stuck at the unbelievable 25.2C, which is disappointing. I haven't tried the 2nd battery, which is a different color. so, I downloaded this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
and am topping it off again, as the app recommends.
So how does the phone come up with the "n%"?
How is that other battey working???
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both batteries very similar in performance as original, except no temp sensor. Charger charges slow, so it keeps the battery cool during charging. I bought these as backups for my wife, so when she gets the Screen Of Death she can swap in a fresh battery. As I've stated in other posts, if we re-boot once a day, we don't get the SOD. But I can't get her to consistently do that, so she pays about twice a month.
I do wish the temp sensor worked, because I have a profile set in setCpu for over temp, but we are just using these as backups, so...
I bought this set from Amazon because I was looking for swapping batteries for my phone and my wife's, who also has a G2x. I'm not sure if it's the methodical charge time with the charger or what, but I'm getting freakishly good battery life, with both the OEM batteries that came with the phone, and the Chichitec batteries. Light to moderate usage, I still have my Chichitec battery at 86% after being on for just shy under 7 hours, from what CM7 Spare Parts is telling me.
I'll be going to bed with the fully charged battery, and go to work with it for a majority of the next day, and swap them out around 11am, and stick the dead one on charge when I get home at 2pm, rinse, repeat. I haven't charged my phone since I bought this set.
Also, for those wondering, like myself, both of these batteries are NON-oem--just one is black like the OEM, and one is red, both of them are Chichitec batteries.
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I'm not sure if it's the methodical charge time with the charger or what, but I'm getting freakishly good battery life, with both the OEM batteries that came with the phone, and the Chichitec batteries.
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From my limited knowledge of batteries, charging slow and cool helps. Also this article discusses the charging routine can make a long term difference. It'd be interesting to KNOW if the chichitec charger is "better" for these batteries...
@tzbigworm, please re-post in a few weeks your longer-term results.
namklak said:
From my limited knowledge of batteries, charging slow and cool helps. Also this article discusses the charging routine can make a long term difference. It'd be interesting to KNOW if the chichitec charger is "better" for these batteries...
@tzbigworm, please re-post in a few weeks your longer-term results.
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Will do. I'm charging my batteries SOLELY using the charger provided by Chichitec. I've not charged the batteries strictly through the phone, just exchange during work and later in the evening, depending on usage, of course.
I don't know which one to get, so based on your experiences, were they worth it?
Has anyone bought both and gotten better performance on one more than the other? Has anyone gotten either of these and actually have had equal or less battery life compared to the stock battery?
thanks for any helpful replies!
I'm wondering about this too. Judging from threads from both brands, alot of people are getting the anker as they are cheaper. But according to some users who have used chichi are saying they last long and have had great experiences with them despite being $20+. Any one else can chime in?
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Yeahh. I had a chichi battery for my G2 and it worked wonders so Im leaning more towards it.
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I bought both...figure I could use one for a back up if anything but both seem to be getting good reviews..the CHI is on the 2nd cycle, i got 10 1/2 1st one under heavy usage would only get about 8 hr at most under heavy with the stock.
2nd cycle i was at 14 hrs under semi heavy usage, before I feel asleep when I woke up it was dead so not sure how long it actually lasted.
3rd cycle starting today..
The Anker is in the mail so hopefully it will arrive soonL
Having both I would prob go with the Anker since its cheaper and the reviews have been very good as well, I purchased the ChiChi when the Anker was 60 now that its back to $10 I would just go with those
Either way I'll post a comparison when I get both although I don't think there will be a huge noticeable difference, seems like both are excellent batteries
I just won two chichi batteries + charger for $15 at Ebay. what a good deal.
will test once i receive them.
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Either way I'll post a comparison when I get both although I don't think there will be a huge noticeable difference, seems like both are excellent batteries
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I feel like there won't be much difference either, but I'd still absolutely love it if you could give some side-by-side specs.
Also, one nagging question from the Anker thread, if you have access to a scale, would you be able to compare weights between the stock, Chichitech, and Anker?
subed, also want to find out what the life difference between the 2. But i don't think you can go wrong with either one right? because they both will last longer than the htc one...
Will weigh both ,I have a scale...just not sure if I can find it, didnt come in the mail today hopefully tomorrow or mon which will let me fully cycle the ChiChi ones
My chichitec lasted 25 hours first charge with moderate usage. Not heavy, but definitely not light usage. Moderate till about 6pm then heavy till around 11pm. Then it was in standby the rest of the night. The stock battery would have never come close. I ordered an Anker too since it was only 9.50. Waiting on that and my battery charger dock still. Got the battery and used the phone for a few hours without charging it. Started at 70 got down to around 30. Then I turned my phone off and charged it for about 7 hours. Got up at 6am, unplugged and turned it on. Lasted all day and all night and died around 730 the next morning.charged it for about 3 hours on my laptop at work today till it was full with it on. Going to let it drain completely again on this charge. Stoked.
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Can anyone post a link for these batteries, tried searching didn't come up with any results thanks in advance
I have both on the way. Waiting on slow shipping heheh. I'll let you know!
Is there a need to peel off the sticker for Chichitec ?? I remember having to do this for my G2 and it had to chip lil bits of the plastic off for it to fit and not bulge out lol
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Is there a need to peel off the sticker for Chichitec ?? I remember having to do this for my G2 and it had to chip lil bits of the plastic off for it to fit and not bulge out lol
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There was no sticker on mine.
I spent less than $30 over at Amazon and got two 1900mAh batteries and a charger for them. The batteries say that they are for the Sensation but work perfectly for the MT4GS. I take lots of photos with my phone(30-40 daily),, send a 150 or more messages a day, surf, compose emails and have about an hour of total talk time per day. 2 Anker batteries takes me through the day without needing an outlet.
I can fully recommend these for our phone. I am in no way affiliated with Anker and did not know the name before I purchased the product.
UPDATE: These batteries are NOT A WIN! After a month and a half of intense usage, I am finding (with two separate batteries) that these may not get enough power to our phones and results in an error for the camera flash when no real error exists (except with the manufacture of this battery perhaps).
I am checking out new batteries. Will report back asap. I am recommending folks avoid Anker for now though. I'm still investigating this situation.
FYI: The exact error is "unable to use flash due to cold weather".
UPDATE: After a few days of trying to reproduce the flash error, I've had zero problems and lots of fun with my phone so I think we can chalk it up at most to a defective battery and not a systemic issue. I've been using the battery since with no problems. Enjoy your phones!
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http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh..._23?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1313683743&sr=1-23
That's the link to the one I just ordered, it shipped yesterday, should be here in another two days. I'll definitely review after I get it.
Anker batteries in the 1900 capacity have been recommended by several here so far, and I haven't heard anything negative about them except for:
One user reports that the fit is almost too snug in the battery case. Any words on this?
Other then that - they sound like a solid win, enough so that I bought one too.
I actually purchased the set that comes with two batteries as I bought my MT4GS on Craigslist and couldn't verify the integrity of the battery it came with. The batteries for the Sensation DO fit snug but it doesn't cause any problems. I spent 30 minutes looking at that aspect. Putting them in, taking them out.... The batteries last a good while (1900mAh) and the charger seems to work well after the initial charges which are a bit longer than normal (but not much longer).
One thing to look out for is that the charging prongs on the charger have a design I have not seen before. Since it is a universal charger from Anker they slide along a rail as so that they can be used to charge various HTC batteries which may have the charging port at various different points along the top of the battery. So like the G2 or the HD2 battery could be charged in the charger as well (I've done it) because you can move the charging prongs from left to right along this rail that they slide on. So you have to make sure that you have them lined up for the + and - port on the MT4GS battery so that you're getting a proper charge and not just sitting there wasting your time.
It's a small thing and not a problem. In fact, it might be a bonus for those who have other HTC devices that it can also charge.
Congrats on your purchase. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Chinese 3 battery combo with charger
I have been buying the spare batteries from Hong Kong/China with the slow ass battery charger for my past few devices. They are 10.95 delivered. The MT4GS and the Sensation are IDENTICAL. I spent 1 dollar more for the MT4GS and everything was exactly the same and there was no reference to MT4GS on either of the packages that arrived at the same time.
I can't complain. I always have my laptop bag with all of my techno gear spare 2A DC and AC chargers.
I can't not be connected?
Blue6IX said:
Anker batteries in the 1900 capacity have been recommended by several here so far, and I haven't heard anything negative about them except for:
One user reports that the fit is almost too snug in the battery case. Any words on this?
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It's definitely a tight fit, but it's not too bad -- it's not hard to pull out when you want to change the SIM or microSD card, for instance. It is tight enough that it doesn't fall out by itself very readily, though -- a couple days ago when I was experimenting with the carrier unlock and swapping SIM cards, I forgot to put the back of the phone* back on when I was done, and I carried the phone around for several hours without having the battery fall out or come loose. I even dropped the phone about 2.5 feet from my desk surface onto the non-carpeted floor and the battery didn't pop out.
So the fit is definitely snug -- much snugger than I'm used to in a phone battery, in fact -- and you have to press down to get the top to slide into place properly, but in my opinion it's a good thing, not a bad thing.
*That is, the "battery" cover, although it covers a lot more than just the battery, unlock my G2's battery cover, which I wish they had made the mT4GS's battery cover more like, but now I'm a bit off topic...
Good to know.
Mine came in today, and i'm watching the charge light turn purplish now as it goes from red to blue, so it should be real soon that it's done charging for the first time.
I think i'm going to restore my first solid CWM backup after rooting on my old battery, then wipe the battery stats file, power down, swap batteries, and power up to run it down. Hopefully this will get me a good calibration right off the bat.
I can't wait to start using it - this holding off until it's charged all the way the first time is killing me lol.
I'll report back in a few days how it works after the first 4-5 discharge cycles the package says it'll take to get my full capacity out of it.
Do you have to use the charger that comes with the battery to charge the battery or can you charge it as normal inside the phone? I would like to get a longer lasting battery but I certainly do not want to have to remove it from my phone every time I want to charge it.
No, it charges just fine inside the phone. The external charger is just in case you need to charge it outside the phone for some reason, like if you have two batteries and you want to charge both up for a long trip or something.
Awesome! Just picked up two MT4G Slides the other day and already I can see the battery life is going to be a potential issue. Coming from a Bold 9700 I knew I was going to run through the battery much faster, but I wasn't quite expecting this fast.
Okay, after my second day with the Anker 1900 battery, I am extremely impressed.
It's like a night and day difference. Honestly, my biggest concern was the heat issue. I noticed that my stock battery got pretty warm, and while not enough to burn me, was enough to impact the lifespan of the device and battery.
I had a theory that spreading the same amount of load over a greater range of discharge would produce less heat, and that has proven out to be true. Maybe the Anker battery is just made better, but more likely my theory was correct.
The Anker battery doesn't get anywhere near as warm with general use of the device as the stock battery did. Solid win there.
The amount of time I get with the battery before having to charge is already significantly increased, and I haven't fully broken it in yet. I'm no longer having to plan out where my next charge location is going to be and trying to ration my device usage to make sure I get to it. Now I can just go about my business without worrying about running out of juice.
Bonus points because now my stock battery is available as a backup, just in case - making the win that much sweeter.
Thanks to everyone who suggested this battery, it was definitely a great buy, and the price is unbeatable.
u think I can buy sume of those battery from amazon.com? I'm Italian, but I can't find shipping restriction section...
Good find. I might pick up one of these. Would really have liked the charger to be USB powered, though (or at least have a long cord) so I could set this on my desk next to my phone.
Evo 3d Battery
Has anyone tried the Evo 3d battery? It's rated at 1730mah and reportedly works just fine in the sensation.
ylam310 said:
Has anyone tried the Evo 3d battery? It's rated at 1730mah and reportedly works just fine in the sensation.
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I don't know if you'll find much traction for this - the anker battery has a higher capacity rating and lots of endorsement from people (myself included) who think it is a superior replacement for the stock battery.
I'd be curious, just to know, but I would recommend the anker 1900 battery for the sensation above anything else.
I wonder why you would want to know this?
Contacted Laptopmate (US Distributor of Anker) via Amazon's customer service. Turns out they have an Ebay store and an Amazon store.
Ebay store is MUCH cheaper. Found batteries and a charger for $15 less.
One thing this company does on both sites is "overlist" they will have the same product for $8.99, and $9.99 for example. I found the first eBay mt4gs battery was 11% off and listed at $14.99 with charger, I kept exploring and found it later for $11.99 - same item.
You also need to watch they have some other non-Anker batteries with varying capacity sizes that might be a bit less. YMMV.
Now just sitting back and waiting for them to arrive.
Will be picking this up for me and my friend (who has the sensation). Good find!
Just ordered two today! Can't wait...as I take lots of pictures and videos so it'll be refreshing to have fully charged batteries ready to go, on the gooooooo.....
Just so people know, it is a little bit bigger. I have a problem squeezing my body glove case on (but it does go on, barely). I'm just waiting for another case with more clearance so it fits.
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That bad? Jeez...
I need a case, otherwise this phone will be abused too much. It is an expensive piece of equipment.
On a side note, I've been trying my damned hardest to drain this thing for 6 hours, and I'm only at 50%. Highest brightness game playing and browsing, and 4G has been on the whole time. Plus, I took enough pictures of my gf to get her irritated.
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can anyone recommend a uk supplier for a bp6x battery that the milestone 2 recognises? or ideally a seller on ebay as i prefer to use paypal? i tried one that said "genuine motorola battery" when it arrived i plugged it in and the dreaded "?" appeared and the phone refused to recognise it. so it was obviously a fake. almost all the listings ive seen appear to be copies. i dont mind a non original aslong as its recognised by the phone and works... the only original battery seller i can see are second hand ones and id rather have a new one if possible. thanks
im interested to same problem ... so up +1!
Rule of thumb is don't buy batteries off ebay.
I was considering purchasing second hand ones, and even considered getting a droid 2 battery second hand, so at least it might be genuine moto, but thought better of it and feel validated with my choice.
At the end of the day, the battery can potentially fry your entire phone the second you connect it. You can't seem to get them direct from moto, but I'd suggest contacting your service provider and see if they can order genuine parts.
I suggest getting a portable charger for those outings where you know you will need some more battery life. Get a car charger, and if possible, a spare charger for work. Than most of your bases are covered and safer too
I'd purchased 2 from a seller on ebay and both work fine - no ? icon whatsoever, even though they're clearly fakes (no hologram). Will give it a week and see how they're lasting, and ill pass on the seller ID. They're handy to have as they can easily fit into a wallet and do wonders if you're getting tore into the Friday night scene.
ive got two spare chargers, and a car charger DreadpirateDan but my original is getting a bit knackered. itll jump from 80% to 40% in one go. then 40% down to nothing. doesnt last anywhere near aslong as it used too. so definitely time for a replacement. i got my phone on ebay so dont have a service provider to contact.
thanks gogz, let us know how u get on. i picked up one of the genuine second hand ones on ebay and it works fine. but its actually older than the one i originally had lol.
hey gogz let us know how ur batteries goes then.
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itll jump from 80% to 40% in one go. then 40% down to nothing.
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Holy moley that's crazy as, what do battery diagnostics tell you of your battery health etc? (if they even work, lol)
Also, have you tried battery calibration? That issue just sounds crazy, perhaps that might help?
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Maybe you should get AnTuTu Tester off the market and run a battery test (will require your phone to be out of action for a few hours rapidly discharging though )
I scored 358 and am placed just above HTC HD2 and below LG Optimus 2X. The Galaxy S2 doesn't seem to have scored much more than me going by the bar graph - I've allways thought my battery to be shocking and potentially damaged health wise. So maybe that could give you an idicator as to how it's holding up, just for curiosity sake.
yeh tried that. the batterys just old thats all. theyre only good for a 1000 charges or something. so charging it couple times a day for over a year soon adds up. as they age the voltage becomes more erratic and it doesnt hold its charge.
I bought 2 original BP7X from ebay (and one bigger cover) and they are perfect.
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I bought 2 original BP7X from ebay (and one bigger cover) and they are perfect.
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BP7X is the way forward buddy. Can abuse the phone all day long and have 50% by the end with custom ROM and Juicedefender. I'm sure with light use you could get a week out of the thing.
ms2 is enough busty :F with bp7x and backcover is like to have a notebook in your pants.
i wish a batery that doesn't needs a backcover and works good without any block
This was were I got my batteries from guys. I've tested them both quite extensively over the holiday season and they have lasted well. Has proved to be a good investment actually as I sucked all the juice out of my phone taking 720 video at a gig over NYE and needed the phone to regroup after it. Hope this helps you. I also got one of those docks with the battery slot in the back to charge them up as a wee christmas present to myself too. I'm getting geeky in my auld age.
hey gogoz with that battery can u see how much % of juice remains ? and can u recharge it from your phone?
Yup. No problems on both counts there.
I have to say that I purchased one of those BP7x 1800mAh batteries and I am not impressed at all.
It barely makes 2 days without data connection always on.
Still I am using the phone underclocked at 800 mhz with screen on and everything forced at 300 when the screen is of wit setcpu.
It takes about 3 hours to burn 10% of charge
Well it only adds like 30% (or something?) extra life.. so if your normal life span used to be about 36 hours then 46 (barely 2 days) is just about right.
for replacement battery i would higly recommend "mugen" batteries. their average performance exceeds the OEMs. But if you go for the heavyweight usage, try their 3300mAh [HLI-A855XL] for milestone. not cheap though compared to ebay deals, but worth it quality wise.
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I have to say that I purchased one of those BP7x 1800mAh batteries and I am not impressed at all.
It barely makes 2 days without data connection always on.
Still I am using the phone underclocked at 800 mhz with screen on and everything forced at 300 when the screen is of wit setcpu.
It takes about 3 hours to burn 10% of charge
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2days! lol. ive never gone more than 24 hours even with the original battery fresh out of the box from the day i bought the phone. i can only dream of going two days without a charge
Hey guys! I wanted to buy this:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/NEW-MOTOROLA...299866?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43af074c1a
Will that battery fit the Milestone 2? Are the accessories the same for the Droid2 and the Milestone 2?
Thanks!
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Hey guys! I wanted to buy this:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/NEW-MOTOROLA...299866?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43af074c1a
Will that battery fit the Milestone 2? Are the accessories the same for the Droid2 and the Milestone 2?
Thanks!
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I have a Droid 2 BP7X and it works fine in my MS2. I'd be wary of the Chinese writing and the very cheap price on the link you provided though. And you will need a new battery cover (mine was supplied with one).
ok guys i really need your help/opinions. my mytouch4gslide has recently been overheating while just casualy using it (facebook,twiitter,minor games,etc). and 2 days ago it started having horrible battery life it goes down 1 or 2 percent every minute or two. and also ive been trying alot of diffrent roms and im still trying each one out again but the problem is still there.before i was with tmobile i had an optimus v for virginmobile and the battery lasted much longer and it wouldnt overheat like this. im really tempted to send this to htc and get it fixed?replaced but i really cant wait two weeks without a phone. so guys tell me if this has ever happened to you or what i should do, i wish i still have the tmobile asurion insurence but i thought it was useless and canceled it last month, what shoudl i do?
o and i bought this piece of crap from tmobile for 500 dollers no sh!t and im still paying for it so i would really like it for it to get fixed
Yea, that's how much I paid for my first one too - well, still paying for...
Did you get insurance with your plan? Not sure if it covers the battery - but it did come with it, so I don't see why not.
Maybe take it in-store and see if you can get a manager or someone who could swap your battery out? Not sure if it works like that.
I'd be leaning towards the battery being shot, or on it's way there.
If it's overheating a lot, then it's just damaging the battery further - but it's also a sign of damage to the battery itself. Some of the cells are burnt out or malfunctioning and preventing/blocking/impeding or somehow just jamming up the electricity transfer in and out of the battery.
If you do an insurance claim, (if you got it with your plan) they ship you a new phone and when it comes in, you send your old one back. Think you have like 7 days to decide if you want the new one or keep the old one.
That would at least give you two batteries to test back and forth and see if it really is a battery problem (but that's the most likely answer)
You might consider getting an aftermarket battery?
On my second phone I swap out between the two HTC batteries I have, and in my plan phone I have the Anker battery I got. The Anker never gets as hot as the stock battery (either one) for the same workload, and I can push the device with the Anker to do much, much more then the one with the stock battery.
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I did do an HTC warranty repair on my second device, and I had to ship it back, they fixed, and sent it back to me. Didn't take that long, less then 13 days (probably by a few days) I could look up my records and find out exactly how many days I didn't have it including my shipping to them - but once they had it, it was speedy service.
The HTC people were an absolute pleasure to deal with on the phone, extremely helpful and taking the time to patiently answer all of my questions or look up accurate answers if need be (and they had to a few times, but you could imagine the grilling of questions I gave an HTC rep since I was on the line with them already)
Definitely seperated themselves from the vast majority of companies i've dealt with for customer service issues (beyond phones into other stuff too)
So past making some awesome tech the people behind it have been fantastic in my experience.
(even if they do make a ****ty battery they should be ashamed of - phone company, not a battery company, but the quality of the battery is way out of spec for the device it's in )
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Sorry to hear about your troubles, but I have a feeling that people are going to start following you who have been using the stock battery for as long as you have.
It generates too much heat, is too inefficient, and that makes it break down faster and die quicker. The more it dies, the less efficient it gets, and the quicker it reaches the end of it's service life.
If I were in your shoes, i'd call the battery shot and start worrying about what that amount of heat is doing to the device itself, specifically its Snapdragon processor. Heat is enemy numbers 1, 2 and 3 for the processor, especially one pushing the limits of it's design like the Snapdragon does.
If you are running an OC kernel, i'd stop that immediately. Hopefully you aren't or haven't been.
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I'd say go to a T-Mo store and start there, do an HTC direct warranty replace as a last resort and consider an aftermarket battery.
The Mugen batteries are unquestionably higher quality then the Anker batteries, but much pricier too.
The Anker battery is far and away better then the garbage stock battery - so even that would be a step up and it's what I run and like using.
(when I can afford to i'm gonna step up to the Mugen battery and gift the Anker to my second phone)
If I were you i'd overnight an Anker battery and stop in a T-Mo store tomorrow to see what your options were and how they were going to make it right for you.
Worst case is an HTC warranty, it's still in the warranty period, the phone hasn't been out for a year yet. I know that's the least desirable option, but if you do have to go that route make sure to mention how the heat has probably damaged the phone itself and they should have a tech or two go over the whole thing with a fine tooth comb. That heat against the processor has really shortened the lifespan of your device.
I say this because sometimes I put down my second phone and turn it off to save it from the heat of a functioning stock battery - a broken one would be a lot more of a concern.
Wish I could say something more positive, but while you are in warranty and have options is not the time to ignore issues that could bite you later.
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Especially since this is clearly not your fault - you are using the battery provided to you with the device itself, and that is now malfunctioning. You didn't do anything to cause this, it's either dumb luck with an even worse battery then normal that HTC themselves provided you, or you are the first of more who are hitting the end of service life on the battery the device came with.
It sucks that the worse it gets, the more quickly the problem gets worse. It's a vicious cycle that there is no way out of, because just using the battery breaks it more.
Even if you have to be without a phone for a week because you have to ship it back to HTC (worst case scenario from your point of view, since you have no device in the meantime) they'll make it right for you. This device is too awesome, and costs too much money, to settle for something that's defective - especially since it's not something you did, just the way it came.
Let's just hope for everyone's sake you got a particularly bad battery and this doesn't turn into an epidemic. Because the overheating of the battery basically breaks it more and more quickly, this is about the right amount of time for them to start crapping out if you got it within the first month of launch.
(based on the ludicrous - yet identical - amount of heat i've been experiencing from two stock batteries is where i'm framing this fear from)
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Sorry, noticed you said you cancelled insurance, i'm pretty tired, but i'll leave what I said in case it helps someone - I wouldn't hesitate to call up HTC and file a manufacturers warranty claim, it should be covered since it's their branded battery that failed. I definitely give them a very high rating for customer service from my experience - I have nothing but good things to say about them to anyone who will listen.
The anker battery definitely will cool down your device. It seems like our stock battery takes a sh*t after about 3 months... Once I got the anker battery I loved the phone so much more, I recommended it to all my friends with sensations/mt4gs phones.
My one friend ended up getting himself 3 ankers, so he always keeps one on the wall charger, one in the phone, and one fully charged in his pocket. He doesn't even plug the phone into the wall anymore. If you do something like him, your phone will also avoid the heat involved with charging via usb
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My one friend ended up getting himself 3 ankers, so he always keeps one on the wall charger, one in the phone, and one fully charged in his pocket. He doesn't even plug the phone into the wall anymore. If you do something like him, your phone will also avoid the heat involved with charging via usb
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Well, you trade wear and tear of one part for wear and tear on another. The wear and tear on the USB jack is much, much worse then the wear and tear on the battery contacts.
The USB jack will wear out long before the battery contacts wear down.
The other part of it is every time you open the back of the device you expose the internals to dust and environmental contaminants.
I'd say as long as it's clean, not dusty or anything when you make the switch, that's the better way to go - as long as they are the same battery (which is what you said your friend had ... all good there)
The big thing would be to not make the switch outside. Try to do it indoors, in still air.
The most dust-free room of any house is most likely the bathroom. Limited to no carpeting and usually much less air space for things to be floating around in, close the window and give it ten minutes to settle first and that's probably the best location to do it. Especially if it's real tile, that's the absolute least opportunity for all the dust and fine particulates on the floor in the rest of the house to be present.
So your friends mode of operation (if when changing the battery conscious of dust and fine particle contamination) is probably the best method to stay charged and put the least wear on the device - except maybe an induction charging backplate.
The only problem with the induction charger is finding a case you can work on it with. I don't have one, but if it's the same size as the standard phone dimensions, then you could use the trident case and not scratch the device up taking it off an on (the trident case is mostly soft plastic and rubber, not hard and sharp plastic)
The downfall to the induction charger is you need a charge plate every where you go, so once you factor that liability in, what your friend is doing with 3 Ankers is probably the best method to keep the phone charged while doing as little damage to it through normal wear and tear possible.
Score a point for creativity and efficiency. I might change my mind about the Mugen and just get a few more Ankers to duplicate the method, after thinking about it. If there's a better way, why do anything else? That seems like it'd be worth buying the extra batteries for, i'll just pay attention and snipe some on sale.
Thanks for sharing, that's a happy tidbit of info and i'm definitely going to work towards implementing it. I want this device to last me as long as I can make it, and any way of taking better care of it or doing something like the battery swap method that just makes way more sense is always welcome to hear about.
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I should've gone to sleep already since I have to get moving in just a few short hours - but after typing out my previous reply I figured i'd swap my stock battery since you shouldn't let them sit without being used for a long period of time.
(I wish I could charge the stock batteries out of the device, I could copy a shorter version of that method with my two stock batteries - oh well.)
Anyways, when I did, I noticed something. Each came with one of my devices, and they are both the same battery, but they are backwards. It looks like it was deliberate, too, because all the markings are correct for + / - and whatnot.
Don't know what to make of it, so I figured i'd share just to get the info out there in case it's of use to anyone - (for what, I have no idea) - but they both suck equally, so there's no benefit of less heat for one or the other, and they both last about the same amount of time near as I can tell without actually measuring.
Doesn't seem like one lasts longer then the other, and i'm pretty sensitive to that kind of stuff. If people are curious i'll measure them a couple of times each and see for sure, if not I won't waste my time when there's other work to do.
Anyways, I snapped some pictures of it to illustrate what I mean, since describing it would end up being confusing for some and i'm half delerious as it is.
They are both the same:
- brand = (HTC)
- model = (BG58100)
- Rating = (3.7VDC)
- Capacity = (1520 mAh)
- Watt Hours = (5.62Whr)
Different serial numbers, and Different part numbers.
The one that shows the writing/bar code side up when installed in the device is:
- part number 35H00150-00m
The one that shows the blank side up when installed in the device is:
- part number 35H00153-00m
Does anyone out there have any other part numbers for the stock batteries? I wonder how many versions there are and if there are any differences between them.
Two of my friends got this device after seeing all the cool stuff I could do with it and being less then impressed with the devices the rest of our/their friends had - they needed a hardware keyboard too so obviously this was the answer.
I will check their stock batteries and see what they are, if it's anything different i'll post that too - might take a few days or so to get ahold of them and find out.
I should have noticed this a long time ago. Anyways, here's the pics to illustrate the outward differences:
no worrys i just charged my phone all night and its workin good again, and i do have anker. im on your bulletproof rom and ive been off the charger for an hour and ive been texting and playing games and its still at 100 percent
Blue if ur gonna copy my friend, keep the spare in a ziplock bag, moisture is one of the reasons people say u shouldn't leave them out and unused for long periods of time
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no worrys i just charged my phone all night and its workin good again, and i do have anker. im on your bulletproof rom and ive been off the charger for an hour and ive been texting and playing games and its still at 100 percent
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Awesome to hear you're in good shape again.
Was the problem you were having with the stock battery or the anker?
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Blue if ur gonna copy my friend, keep the spare in a ziplock bag, moisture is one of the reasons people say u shouldn't leave them out and unused for long periods of time
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I have some nylon camera cases i've been using to carry around the doubleshots, and they have pockets that I slip things like memory cards, cables and the stock batteries in (whichever one isn't being used).
Appreciate the heads up, but I got the cases to keep the doubleshot behind a zipper to keep dust out, and when the accessories are in the zipper pockets they are protected enough. There isn't a lot of fog where I live, only rarely and otherwise the ambient moisture is not very high so it's not a big deal.
If I didn't have the cases, though, i'd definitely be using something like that. There were a couple of times I carried the doubleshot itself around in a ziplock bag back in august, if it was raining or going to rain that's how it left my house in my pocket. That's what prompted me to get the nylon cases - and though they aren't waterproof or anything, it's enough to not have to worry about it.
If i'm going to be in the rain then that's what I do - i'll have to come up with something better before it hits the rainy season around here - this time of year it doesn't rain often.
I'm having a similar problem, though not as extreme.
My phone's battery doesn't actually heat up but the area around the simcard. I'm running Pyroice with the extreme UV kernel and underclocked the CPU to 810mhz Max with setcpu 2.1.1a but it still warms up around the simcard area. I also never get anything better than 12hrs battery life.
Should I be worried?
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I'm having a similar problem, though not as extreme.
My phone's battery doesn't actually heat up but the area around the simcard. I'm running Pyroice with the extreme UV kernel and underclocked the CPU to 810mhz Max with setcpu 2.1.1a but it still warms up around the simcard area. I also never get anything better than 12hrs battery life.
Should I be worried?
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I have had this same problem from day one. Even with the anker battery, and on every rom I have tried. I sometimes use flat icepacks to cool it down when it gets too hot. I haven't found anything fix.
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I use my Mugen as my regular battery and my two Ankers as spares. I only have the OEM battery in case I need to send it to T-Mobile.
So I got the model numbers from both stock batteries that my friends have for their phones. Both are the same.
- part number 35H00153-00m
...and that matches one of the ones I have from above.
Anyone else have any other model numbers on their stock batteries that are different?
It would be nice to know what's out there and if a particular model seems to do better then another.
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I run both stock batteries in one phone, and the anker in the other. Very rarely does the anker device get hot enough that I take notice and pay attention to it, but it does happen.
The one swapping out stock batteries back and forth can trigger a battery switch if it has been two days and I haven't swapped, or it gets too hot.
If it gets too hot I turn it off, let it cool down and then turn it on with the other battery. I try to keep the one not in use as full as viable, but never less then about halfway for more then a short while.
Enough people have shown a serious reduction in heat of the device by using an aftermarket battery that we've concluded pretty solidly that the stock battery is responsible for a large portion of the excessive heat.
Heat is the number one enemy of these kinds of batteries and microprocessors. If it starts to get hot enough to be uncomfortable in your hands, then you should start thinking about letting it cool down before running it so hard.
It happens more frequently then i'd like with the device running stock batteries, but I always make the decision that whatever i'm doing isn't worth aging the device and reducing it's service life just because I couldn't stop using it for a few minutes to let it cool off. The money I spent on it means more the longer it's in service, abusing it unnecessarily is wasteful to me.
I'm pretty particular about things like that, just my way. Your mileage may vary.
Blue: my stock battery has the same product number
i can't really say i've noticed it getting hot enough to take notice of it, but then again, i mainly use the Anker, since i only need to charge it once a day.
i was wondering if there's a chance that the heat issue is something HTC addressed in the last OTA update? definitely hard to say, but possible i suppose. perhaps i can try using the stock battery on the newest stock ROM and see if it heats up.
I doubt it's a matter of software or we wouldn't see much if any change when swapping to a different battery like the mugen or anker.
Any theory is valid until disproven though, and you never know unless you try so let us know how it turns out.