I'm sure you guys have heard that T-Mobile will have a joint venture with Verizon (LTE deal next year).
So the question is, do you guys think the Lumia 900 will work with T-Mobile's future LTE?
Tmo will use some of AT&T's and Verizon's spectrum, so there's a slight chance that it will work. What do you guys think?
It will probably work, yes. T-Mobile is also apparently moving some of their current 2G capacity (which uses the same bands as AT&T, hence why you can get 2G on T-Mobile with an AT&T phone) to 3G, bringing essentially full compatibility between the two networks. I don't know any details as to when, though.
Of course, your Lumia would need to be SIM-unlocked.
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Just curious if possible when you unlocked the GSM radio on the Sprint or Verizon TP2. Is it possible to get all features i.e. 3G..etc to work on Tmobile?
sorry if this is a dumb question but considering the price difference between the TMO TP2 and Verizon it would be much cheaper to buy it and just get it unlocked for TMO.
The Verizon version is as easy to unlock as calling Verizon and asking for the unlock code (they'll redirect you to another department that deals with that type of thing).
After that, you should be able to use it on both AT&T and TMobile, or any other GSM provider.. but you won't get 3G speeds, only 2G/EDGE, since the TP2 doesn't include the 2100Mhz band that TMobile and AT&T use for their 3G.
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The Verizon version is as easy to unlock as calling Verizon and asking for the unlock code (they'll redirect you to another department that deals with that type of thing).
After that, you should be able to use it on both AT&T and TMobile, or any other GSM provider.. but you won't get 3G speeds, only 2G/EDGE, since the TP2 doesn't include the 2100Mhz band that TMobile and AT&T use for their 3G.
-mak
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Actually, AT&T uses 850 and 1900 for 3G, T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100.
californiarailroader said:
Actually, AT&T uses 850 and 1900 for 3G, T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100.
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Really? My bad, I was taught that they both utilized 2100Mhz.. if you're correct, and I believe you are, then the TP2 (and even the storm, which supports 850/1900Mhz) can utilize 3G on AT&T?
The CDMA Touch Pro2 will get 3G in Europe:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
(found it here: http://www.htcwiki.com/page/HTC+Touch+Pro2+(CDMA))
T-Mobile has some weird-ass thing going on with their 3G that you need 1700 and 2100 on your phone, so you can count that out.
Basically, you can unlock it. The only problem you'll have is no 3G. The big question... will you be able to make it roam on Sprint?
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The Verizon version is as easy to unlock as calling Verizon and asking for the unlock code (they'll redirect you to another department that deals with that type of thing).
After that, you should be able to use it on both AT&T and TMobile, or any other GSM provider.. but you won't get 3G speeds, only 2G/EDGE, since the TP2 doesn't include the 2100Mhz band that TMobile and AT&T use for their 3G.
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It is that easy to get the code....but you need to be a Verizon customer for 60 days or more (probably to stop stuff like this, if I had to guess). I really don't know what they would do if you bought it outright though. If worst comes to worst, you can get it unlocked somewhere for like $10.
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It is that easy to get the code....but you need to be a Verizon customer for 60 days or more (probably to stop stuff like this, if I had to guess). I really don't know what they would do if you bought it outright though. If worst comes to worst, you can get it unlocked somewhere for like $10.
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This is what I learned today, read post 21 gents:
I know how At&t are gonna have HSPA+ 4g, I'm confused about the new devices they're gonna have that support HSPA+. Are they going to be able to connect to HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
So for example, I buy an unlocked HSPA+ tablet from AT&T, straight from their store. Is it going to be able to use T-Mobile's HSPA+ network if I put a T-Mobile SIM card inside?
Also, one last question, if I use T-Mobile's SIM card, do I have to do some special stuff to get it to work on their cell network? Like how you have to unlock an iPhone for it to work on T-Mobile?
Thanks
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I know how At&t are gonna have HSPA+ 4g, I'm confused about the new devices they're gonna have that support HSPA+. Are they going to be able to connect to HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
So for example, I buy an unlocked HSPA+ tablet from AT&T, straight from their store. Is it going to be able to use T-Mobile's HSPA+ network if I put a T-Mobile SIM card inside?
Also, one last question, if I use T-Mobile's SIM card, do I have to do some special stuff to get it to work on their cell network? Like how you have to unlock an iPhone for it to work on T-Mobile?
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Hello,
Unfortunately you will not be able to use HSPA+. HSPA+ is just an extension/revision of the current 3G. Effectively it is also called 3.5G/3.75G in some reports. They use the same 3G band of each respective company. The At&t tablet would work on 850/1900 band and T-mobile will work on their AWS (1700) band. So if you bought an At&t tablet, you may need to get it unlocked, not sure if they lock the sim on tablets. At best you would get Edge service with a T-mobile sim.
thanks man, argg
do you think it's worth it to change to at&t because I just heard of the Motorola Atrix and it sound PRETTY BAD ASS!
I don't know since people I know are always angry at AT&T for their service either..
xAliceNine said:
thanks man, argg
do you think it's worth it to change to at&t because I just heard of the Motorola Atrix and it sound PRETTY BAD ASS!
I don't know since people I know are always angry at AT&T for their service either..
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NP. I have had every major carrier offered in the US. I have had at&t, t-mobile, and sprint within the last year. I had verizon a while ago and dropped them because they could never get my bill right. Honestly, the service is about the same. The question is how is the service in your area. I mainly stay in my area about 90-98% of the time. I live in a major city so all carries have great service. But I have stayed with At&t for the last few years. Every time I go to another carrier I kept my at&t service, go figure. So I would just look at coverage to where you travel the most and go with a carrier that will give you the best coverage for the best price. Do i prefer a carrier over another, yeah. I like GSM carriers better because I do like to surf and talk at the same time. Sprint can do this if your in a 4G coverage area and have a 4G phone. Verizon is a no go with this feature until they release their LTE phones. But At&t has a better coverage footprint than T-mobile that is why I stick with them. Hope it helps.
Wondering a bit about this too.
I have service through Bendbroadband using a HSPA+ SIM with USB modem Dongle by bandluxe. The service is stellar on the speed, but I can't use the dongle with everything (iPad), so looking for alternate routes before i decide to move to a different provider.
I noticed that the CTO of the company said in a comment regarding their service that any unlocked UE that supports HSPA/HSPA+ in the AWS band could be used, but also had an unclear reponse on cell phones with HSPA+.
I have a Huawei Comet (unlocked), it lists the same AWS Bands compatible, but says HSDPA (which I thought HSDPA + HSUPA = HSPA+ but at higher speeds, correct me if I am wrong), and has hotspot tether that works with tmobile web service no problem.
I plugged the SIM in, and it updates the bar with BendBroadband but I get no data. (might need to provide the IMEI or something)..
Curious if you think it should work, before i go knocking on their doors.
Some other specs:
the mytouch 4g (HSPA+) lists the bands as:850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
The comet is listed as: 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
I am fairly sure the comet is HSPA+ but not advertised that way.
According to comments on the site, Bendbroadband technicians do not actually support moving of the SIMs. Bummer.. trying to keep my business local.. Bumping and moving to Tmobile once the month is up.
Hey guys i recently unlocked my HOX and tossed a T-Mobile chip in it. Is there a way for me to get a better data speed? I'm only able to use 2G at the moment.
You can't simply enable it, as T-Mobile uses the 1700 AWS spectrum for 3G/4G in most of their areas. The HOX doesn't support 1700. T-Mobile's older 2G network runs on 1900mhz, which the HOX will pick up, but you'll be limited to EDGE speeds.
There is good news though. T-Mobile is currently in the process of upgrading those areas to support 3G/4G on the 1900mhz spectrum they have. Their main goal is to attract iPhone customers (since the iPhone also cannot run on their 1700mhz network). From what I've heard they're doing a pretty good job, but until they get your area upgraded, you'll be stuck on EDGE.
Hope that explanation makes sense. If not, here's a decent writeup:
http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/07/t-mob...rk-in-large-number-of-markets-by-end-of-2012/
So T-Mobile seems to be ramping up their LTE coverage and my area seems to be one of the LTE markets.
I was wondering, would now be a good time to buy an AT&T Android LTE phone (like the Note 2 or GS3)?
I'm not entirely clear if the LTE on those AT&T phones will work with the current/future T-Mobile LTE network.
Right now I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile. I get spotty 3G coverage since I'm in one of the 1900MHz refarmed areas. Would using an AWS LTE compatible AT&T phone let me get T-Mobile LTE service?
Is T-Mobile eventually going to get rid of their 3G service on the 1700MHz frequency so they can use it for LTE and then put their 3G service on the 1900MHz frequency?
I can't afford a brand new phone, but when it comes to used phones it always seems that AT&T ones are cheaper to buy than T-Mobile equivalent.
Outrager said:
So T-Mobile seems to be ramping up their LTE coverage and my area seems to be one of the LTE markets.
I was wondering, would now be a good time to buy an AT&T Android LTE phone (like the Note 2 or GS3)?
I'm not entirely clear if the LTE on those AT&T phones will work with the current/future T-Mobile LTE network.
Right now I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on T-Mobile. I get spotty 3G coverage since I'm in one of the 1900MHz refarmed areas. Would using an AWS LTE compatible AT&T phone let me get T-Mobile LTE service?
Is T-Mobile eventually going to get rid of their 3G service on the 1700MHz frequency so they can use it for LTE and then put their 3G service on the 1900MHz frequency?
I can't afford a brand new phone, but when it comes to used phones it always seems that AT&T ones are cheaper to buy than T-Mobile equivalent.
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It has been my understanding that AT&T and T-Mobile smartphones are network cross-compatible because they use the same bands for HSPDA and LTE. So as long as you have the following, you should be good to go.
First and most important: ***Phone Unlocked***
The correct sim for the carrier.
The correct APN settings for the carrier. (If this isn't auto-populated after the new sim is in the phone, you can search here on XDA for them.)
Lastly, apply any patches/fixes/tweaks for the particular device where needed. (if needed)
As for this network cross-compatibility changing in the future, odds are that it probably will not happen any time soon as this would be very costly for the carrier to change so soon after launching the LTE service. Post-LTE, maybe, but that is at least another 10 years away if I had to guess. :fingers-crossed:
LOL I'm an idiot, was thinking HTC ONE when I said one hd...
Found a really good deal ($170) on a bnib razr hd from verizon with a bad esn on ebay. Didnt really have the time to fully research it before the auction ended so I just took the chance and placed the order.
Did some searching after the fact and have found some really conflicting information. I know the phone would be pretty much useless in the states, but I'm unsure of its usability in Canada? I've herd they would work fine in asia and india so I'm basically curious if anyone knows the extent of how far verizon shares its blocked phone information? Does it extend to Canada?
I've herd on the states you need to have your phone activated onto a network? In Canada we just throw in our sim card and are good to go. Is this a different technology (CDMA vs GSM?). If so assuming the Activation portion of the phone is blocked could the sim card part of it still be open theoretically?
Assuming its possible to work with the bad esn does anyone know if I could use LTE on Bell/virgin?
According to bell it uses LTE AWS 1700mhz and LTE 700mhz and HSPA 850mhz and 1900mhz
According to gsm arena the xt926 uses:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
Should be fully compatible no? I cant find any information on what class bell uses for their LTE, nor do I know if the class affects anything?
mikeinaus said:
LOL I'm an idiot, was thinking HTC ONE when I said one hd...
Found a really good deal ($170) on a bnib razr hd from verizon with a bad esn on ebay. Didnt really have the time to fully research it before the auction ended so I just took the chance and placed the order.
Did some searching after the fact and have found some really conflicting information. I know the phone would be pretty much useless in the states, but I'm unsure of its usability in Canada? I've herd they would work fine in asia and india so I'm basically curious if anyone knows the extent of how far verizon shares its blocked phone information? Does it extend to Canada?
I've herd on the states you need to have your phone activated onto a network? In Canada we just throw in our sim card and are good to go. Is this a different technology (CDMA vs GSM?). If so assuming the Activation portion of the phone is blocked could the sim card part of it still be open theoretically?
Assuming its possible to work with the bad esn does anyone know if I could use LTE on Bell/virgin?
According to bell it uses LTE AWS 1700mhz and LTE 700mhz and HSPA 850mhz and 1900mhz
According to gsm arena the xt926 uses:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
Should be fully compatible no? I cant find any information on what class bell uses for their LTE, nor do I know if the class affects anything?
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You can unlock it for gsm carriers in the us and its already unlocked for international use. I know with att u get h+ witch is good enough for me on straight talk. I average about 6mps.
Got the phone on the weekend. It works fine on bell/ virgin except I can't connect to lte. Does anyone know of it's possible to unlock lte? According to gsm area the phone should be compatible with lte 700mhz which is what bell uses... Will that radio com thing you guys use to unlock it for us carriers help?