So my phone shut off yesterday due to loss of battery power.
However, when I went to charge it, it would not charge when it was off.
IE: The battery picture with the "goo" in it that fills as it charges.
So since it wouldn't charge I was stuck at the a bootloop at the logo. Not animation.
Luckily my buddy at work has a Bionic that I was able to stick my battery into and charge. If not for that I would have been screwed.
Now I know I have personally a MILLION posts due to this problem and I'm wondering.
Who else can't charge while the phone is shut off? Is this due to CWM on boot? Our modded ROM's? If this is true for you, are you rooted? Stock ROM? CWM on boot?
We should really find a way to fix this. We need to be able to charge while the phone is off. This would save a lot of people headaches. Thoughts?
Fall of Enosis said:
So my phone shut off yesterday due to loss of battery power.
However, when I went to charge it, it would not charge when it was off.
IE: The battery picture with the "goo" in it that fills as it charges.
So since it wouldn't charge I was stuck at the a bootloop at the logo. Not animation.
Luckily my buddy at work has a Bionic that I was able to stick my battery into and charge. If not for that I would have been screwed.
Now I know I have personally a MILLION posts due to this problem and I'm wondering.
Who else can't charge while the phone is shut off? Is this due to CWM on boot? Our modded ROM's? If this is true for you, are you rooted? Stock ROM? CWM on boot?
We should really find a way to fix this. We need to be able to charge while the phone is off. This would save a lot of people headaches. Thoughts?
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You CAN charge in this situation, but it is a real PIA, and you have to really keep playing with it until you get the sequence correct.
It is a little dance like this:
1) power off.
2) take the battery out.
3) plug the phone into the wall socket, not a usb computer connection, with the battery out!
4) HOLD the power button to turn the phone on
while the dual core screen comes up, hold the power button for a very long time, and the phone will eventually shut off.
5) put the battery back in the phone and put the back on, the phone may try to power on again, and you may have to due 1-4 all over again, or you can HOLD the power button for a VERY long time again until it powers off.
Now if it turns off, you should see the white light come on and that means it is charging.
Note the timing is key and you may have to play around to get it exact, because two of the different exchanges of my phones each had a slight different sequence to make it work.
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You CAN charge in this situation, but it is a real PIA, and you have to really keep playing with it until you get the sequence correct.
It is a little dance like this:
1) power off.
2) take the battery out.
3) plug the phone into the wall socket, not a usb computer connection, with the battery out!
4) HOLD the power button to turn the phone on
while the dual core screen comes up, hold the power button for a very long time, and the phone will eventually shut off.
5) put the battery back in the phone and put the back on, the phone may try to power on again, and you may have to due 1-4 all over again, or you can HOLD the power button for a VERY long time again until it powers off.
Now if it turns off, you should see the white light come on and that means it is charging.
Note the timing is key and you may have to play around to get it exact, because two of the different exchanges of my phones each had a slight different sequence to make it work.
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Won't it also charge in stock recovery? I know that's not really off, but it is low power.
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Won't it also charge in stock recovery? I know that's not really off, but it is low power.
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Not sure, I have never tried it. I have however done what I have mentioned during a boot loop MANY times now, and never had an issue. Once you figure out the EXACT steps it takes, it just becomes second nature. Oh and like I said, it can be just slightly different even between two different A2s, but it is only like a millisecond here or a slight step there, that is different, or maybe when the battery goes in and or comes out of the phone...
I can assure you though that it does work to get you a full charge before a flash after and during a boot loop.
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Not sure, I have never tried it. I have however done what I have mentioned during a boot loop MANY times now, and never had an issue. Once you figure out the EXACT steps it takes, it just becomes second nature. Oh and like I said, it can be just slightly different even between two different A2s, but it is only like a millisecond here or a slight step there, that is different, or maybe when the battery goes in and or comes out of the phone...
I can assure you though that it does work to get you a full charge before a flash after and during a boot loop.
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Good to know. I have a family member with the same phone, so when I kill mine and need to flash I just steal her battery for a few minutes.
So this happened to me again. Accidentally let the phone discharge. Not to worry, I'm not bricked. But now again I'm gonna have to charge my phone battry on my buddies bionic. BUT WHY WON'T OUR PHONES CHARGE WHILE THE IT'S OFF?
I shouldn't have to be paranoid if my phone dies.
I guess I never really got an answer to my OP, while I got it reconciled, it'd be nice to have an answer.
In GB, if your phone was off (powered completely down) you could plug it in, and the screen would come on with the battery that had the goo that would fill up as it charged. I seem to have lost this capability ever since I have rooted and started running custom ROMS. WHY?
So, four questions remain: Why is this happening? And is it happening to anyone else? If you're unsure, can you test it for me (see if your phone will charge while off) and most importantly. HOW TO FIX IT?
It's a little infuriating.
I've never had this happen to me. I know that's not helpful in your circumstance. My phone will shut off at the '0% battery level' and I can plug into my wall charger or USB to my laptop, and goo I get. I'm wondering if its your charger? The Moto chargers seem to be a little on the shoddy side. I've replaced all of mine with other non-Moto wall chargers. And as you know, if you're completely out of juice, USB may not have enough current to charge it back to full. Just my thoughts.
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Thanks for the thoughts mate, but it doesn't matter what I try to charge it on? Will it charge for you no matter what ROM?
Fall of Enosis said:
So this happened to me again. Accidentally let the phone discharge. Not to worry, I'm not bricked. But now again I'm gonna have to charge my phone battry on my buddies bionic. BUT WHY WON'T OUR PHONES CHARGE WHILE THE IT'S OFF?
I shouldn't have to be paranoid if my phone dies.
I guess I never really got an answer to my OP, while I got it reconciled, it'd be nice to have an answer.
In GB, if your phone was off (powered completely down) you could plug it in, and the screen would come on with the battery that had the goo that would fill up as it charged. I seem to have lost this capability ever since I have rooted and started running custom ROMS. WHY?
So, four questions remain: Why is this happening? And is it happening to anyone else? If you're unsure, can you test it for me (see if your phone will charge while off) and most importantly. HOW TO FIX IT?
It's a little infuriating.
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Ok I am going to answer this finally, for you....
The battery screen with the "goo" is a "boot hijack", we have stolen that ability to use it for CWM/bootsrtap and it's boot hijack replaces it. YOU CAN NOT LET YOUR PHONE FULLY DISCHARGE. When you get to less than 10% find a place to start charging it, or turn the phone off until you can connect it to a charger.
Sometimes we have to rob peter to pay paul, and in this case we "stole" that ability to get to CWM on a boot with either bootstrap and BP tools, or the J.Y.Daddy hack, but either of those steal this same boot hijack "space".
PERFECT JIM! Thanks man. I just wanted to understand why it was doing it. Thanks so much! Although that doesn't explain why Apex is able to charge lol. I figured since I was stock(ish) ICS that it wouldn't matter? Although I did use bootstrap to flash Altered's carrier remover zip. And maybe Apex is completely stock.
EDIT: I grabbed my buddies bionic to stick my battery into to charge, and his is rooted running a custom and they use safestrap as their recovery, however when his boots up, it boots into safestrap and then starts charging with the goo.
How come Bionic can do it and we can't? WAH!
That's interesting. Any idea why I don't have any problem from a full discharge-to-shut off and charge problem? I've not done anything that anyone else hasn't, I mean, I rooted, installed the bootstrap, J-Y-Daddy CWM, flashed myself silly, edited "this" and "that" and tweaked "these" and "those". Never found myself not being able to charge after a shut down...
Edit: I'm running Lithium v.1.3.1
Edit #2: Knocking frantically on wood! Hope I didn't just jinx myself!
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That's interesting. Any idea why I don't have any problem from a full discharge-to-shut off and charge problem? I've not done anything that anyone else hasn't, I mean, I rooted, installed the bootstrap, J-Y-Daddy CWM, flashed myself silly, edited "this" and "that" and tweaked "these" and "those". Never found myself not being able to charge after a shut down...
Edit: I'm running Lithium v.1.3.1
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You probably have something with the logwrapper and boot hijack link that is not fully correct... that is what actually does the boot hijack.
Here is where we started to think about this whole thing, just so people can see how we got to where we are with these hacks... yes this is quite old..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341198
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You probably have something with the logwrapper and boot hijack link that is not fully correct... that is what actually does the boot hijack.
Here is where we started to think about this whole thing, just so people can see how we got to where we are with these hacks... yes this is quite old..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341198
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So, I'm wondering if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I suppose its good for the sake that I don't have the charging after dead issue, but could it pose any others? I've had things this way for 4 months...
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So, I'm wondering if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I suppose its good for the sake that I don't have the charging after dead issue, but could it pose any others? I've had things this way for 4 months...
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Good question, I am not really sure.. you are kind of the odd man out possibly.. I have had the battery after dead charge scree too before too with the boot hacks, and other times not so much... I think it has to do with how the hacks are done and the order they are all done in. I am not totally sure what that order is though.
Here are more links on the CWM history:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335933
This is from the above thread but it talks about what I am saying, and how this all was finally made to work for us:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19368661&postcount=24
See the EDIT in my previous post. The bionic boys "safestrap" recovery has the ability. I know cause I just used my buddies bionic to charge my battery. it boots into safestrap, and then if you don't choose recovery, or boot normally, poof, into battery charging.
It's interesting how they have it and we don't. Hmm...
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See the EDIT in my previous post. The bionic boys "safestrap" recovery has the ability. I know cause I just used my buddies bionic to charge my battery. it boots into safestrap, and then if you don't choose recovery, or boot normally, poof, into battery charging.
It's interesting how they have it and we don't. Hmm...
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safestrap is a little different.... I know I did the OG mods to make it work for us back in nov/dec. It uses a different hijack method, and we can't use that one on our phone, and thier recoveries don't work on our phone.
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That's interesting. Any idea why I don't have any problem from a full discharge-to-shut off and charge problem? I've not done anything that anyone else hasn't, I mean, I rooted, installed the bootstrap, J-Y-Daddy CWM, flashed myself silly, edited "this" and "that" and tweaked "these" and "those". Never found myself not being able to charge after a shut down...
Edit: I'm running Lithium v.1.3.1
Edit #2: Knocking frantically on wood! Hope I didn't just jinx myself!
Sent from my Atari Falcon030
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Time to pull a system.img! LOL!
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By the way folks, with the release of our spiffy new recovery (Thanks whirley and Luk!) This thread is no longer an issue. Since the battery monitoring had been removed for the boot hijack with the bootstrap.apk we could not charge with the phone off.
NOW, I tested it and we can. Apparently the removal of the battery monitor was not an issue with the new recovery. HOORAY! We should have no more people complaining about dead batterys!
I had this issue this morning and I thought my phone had bricked at first since I installed SCv7 late last night. My phone shut off at 3% and it would not allow me to charge it and it would not turn on at all. I tried Jim's method a few times; did not work for me. I am on SCv7 ICS, rooted, and I do have Bootmenu installed. I went and bought another battery today, which I was going to do soon anyway; and Im going to buy a battery charger on Amazon, just in case. Im not quite sure how to fix it, but as long as I have an extra battery, I will be okay.
Are you not able to charge while off? That issue has been resolved with the new recovery. What does it do when you try to charge it?
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I hate to post here, but I've searched everywhere and have not found a solution to my particular issue.
I rooted my new droid charge using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
I flashed the debloated ee4 stock rom with PBJ with voodoo lagfix and it all worked fine. Today, I decided I wanted to try gummicharge and decide to flash it, I forgot to turn off voodoo before doing so, and the flash froze up before finishing. After a series of flashing/reflashing and turning voodoo, I eventually got to where the phone would only boot to CWM, and now will not turn on at all, or go to download mode (yes, I know how to do it).
I'm out of ideas, I feel like my phone might really be bricked for good. Please help! Thank you in advance for any advice.
Edit: the battery was low when I was flashing, but the phone was plugged in. I've read to leave the phone charging for a while and that might help, but I've charged it for 2 hours so far and nothing.
I know this doesn't help you at all but I am about to use that guide to root my droid charge. Did you like the pb ROM? I cant decide which to choose. I really dont want to do one and switch to another and screw up haha.
The pbj kernel was really solid, worked very well. I just wish I hadn't kept messing with things after they were how I wanted them =(
I know you say you know how to get to download mode. Have you tried the method where you poul the battery out then push the two volume keys and hold them while plugging in your usb cord(all while the battery is out)? Then I recommend flashing one of the full stock odins from p3droidin developement section in all roms.
I had tried this before, still nothing. I even read that sometimes Odin will detect a phone even without the screen coming on and decided to try, still nothing.
I forgot to mention. Have you tried pulling the sd card? Sometimes that helps. Pull it then try.
No SD, no SIM card, and no battery in it, still nothing.
I should add that the phone was getting hot to the touch, is it possible that the phone fried and this wasn't a result of a bad flash?
I'm no expert, but I was unable to enter CWM while plugged in. However, I was always able to enter download mode while plugged in (and battery removed). Try leaving the phone alone for a while? Heat definitely isn't helping things.
Well, I've got the insurance on the phone and I feel like the heat (not rooting) was my issue. I hate to give up, but I've tried everything I can think of.
wrarvoz said:
Well, I've got the insurance on the phone and I feel like the heat (not rooting) was my issue. I hate to give up, but I've tried everything I can think of.
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Welp, that's why you paid for it. I would be crying in your situation because I never pay for insurance. You might as well; you can get rid of any tiny scratches or imperfections while you're at it!
Same thing happened to my charge today. Was charging and got pretty hot and shut off. Now when I charge it the 4 buttons flash and I can't get into do dl mode with or without battery. Gonna let it charge for a while and report back but I think its fried. Was running stock.
Ok, hey guys... stuck on the black screen here!?
I turn on MT4GS all buttons light up, no screen functionality at all... tried battery pull and w/ out sim card and/or sd card... I'm currently using Bulletproof and never had any issues prior have had bullet proof for a month... I'm s-off if I remember correctly.
All and any input greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
RedHazy said:
Ok, hey guys... stuck on the black screen here!?
I turn on MT4GS all buttons light up, no screen functionality at all... tried battery pull and w/ out sim card and/or sd card... I'm currently using Bulletproof and never had any issues prior have had bullet proof for a month... I'm s-off if I remember correctly.
All and any input greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
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Have you tried getting into bootloader?
Indirect said:
Have you tried getting into bootloader?
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How do I go about doing that again? Is it camera + power or volume down + power?
Thanks
volume down first then while holding it hold power
pull battery, put it back in, and then hold power + volume until you get a white screen. It could also be your flex cable going bad though.
xmc wildchild22 said:
volume down first then while holding it hold power
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Just tried it 3 times, the red light in the trackpad goes on, no other feedback from the phone! Buttons or screen or anything!
Any other ideas and where would i go to get something like a flex cable checked or even buy?
charge your phone
RedHazy said:
Just tried it 3 times, the red light in the trackpad goes on, no other feedback from the phone! Buttons or screen or anything!
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How many times does the light inside the trackpad blink before it stops?
Most likely the answer is:
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charge your phone
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...as he is quick to point out, and i'll admit as he did indirectly, we've been there before, and that's what it sounds like.
I definitely a few times now have thought my device was broken, but I have a couple of different batteries laying around and swapping out always solves this - the first time this happened to me was before we had S-OFF, and it's never happened on my anker battery ... only the stock ones.
( I haven't been keeping track of if it's the same stock battery or both of the ones I have - it happens so infrequently)
Given how it's caught me by surprise once, I might be willing to blame this particular hiccup on the battery, but again, it happens so infrequently - 3 times for me since the beginning of August, so it's hard to tell for sure.
Whatever it is, despite my hunches of the battery culprit, it's certainly not a function of rooting or anything about that since it happened to me before we had that.
2 of the times it was letting the battery run out while sleeping, the first time it happened I was around 20% left. Turned the screen off, wasn't doing anything with it, got a shower, and when I came back it was like this.
I got pretty frustrated and worried, I didn't want to take it back to the store for a different one, so I plugged it in and went over to a friends house. When I came back it worked fine, so I chalked it up to a dead battery, maybe it wasn't reading the percentage right or something.
Dunno, some thoughts...
Blue6IX said:
How many times does the light inside the trackpad blink before it stops?
Most likely the answer is:
...as he is quick to point out, and i'll admit as he did indirectly, we've been there before, and that's what it sounds like.
I definitely a few times now have thought my device was broken, but I have a couple of different batteries laying around and swapping out always solves this - the first time this happened to me was before we had S-OFF, and it's never happened on my anker battery ... only the stock ones.
( I haven't been keeping track of if it's the same stock battery or both of the ones I have - it happens so infrequently)
Given how it's caught me by surprise once, I might be willing to blame this particular hiccup on the battery, but again, it happens so infrequently - 3 times for me since the beginning of August, so it's hard to tell for sure.
Whatever it is, despite my hunches of the battery culprit, it's certainly not a function of rooting or anything about that since it happened to me before we had that.
2 of the times it was letting the battery run out while sleeping, the first time it happened I was around 20% left. Turned the screen off, wasn't doing anything with it, got a shower, and when I came back it was like this.
I got pretty frustrated and worried, I didn't want to take it back to the store for a different one, so I plugged it in and went over to a friends house. When I came back it worked fine, so I chalked it up to a dead battery, maybe it wasn't reading the percentage right or something.
Dunno, some thoughts...
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Thanks, so much I'll try a alternative battery... might have to buy one from ebay... any suggestions? The Red Trackpad light doesn't turn off at all when I try volume down and power just sits there!? Strange I've tried charging it now with no apparent luck I'm praying it's a battery issue! The orange light flashes a few times now when charging then hits solid green when done?
So lost again any thoughts greatly appreciated!
Not sure then - sounds like you should have gotten enough juice to get past it being what we were talking about.
Doesn't mean it isn't a battery issue, but can't say for sure?
Dunno, i'll be turning it over in my head and if I think of something i'll drop it here.
Any word on this?
I was trying to Juopunutbear S-off my phone last nite, when it took me a little time to get the wire trick rite and now my phone is dead. Only the trackpad light stays on and I don't know if that means its out of juice or its bricked. and since the orange led doesnt turn on; I don't know if its charging or not since it won't turn on at all.
Try unplugging it taking the battery out, put it back in 10 seconds later,and plug in the power again. Hold down the volume button and press the power button, see if you can get to recovery from hboot. If you can, you probably aren't completely screwed.
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Thanks anitgandhi for your response. I went thru the procedure and nothing came up on the screen. the screen is still blank. All I see is the red light on the trackpad. I'm not sure if the battery is dead or the phone is bricked!!
This is just a shot in the dark but try plugging it into your computer, see if it recognizes it.
Honestly I'm not too familiar with juopounutbear s-off cuz I have revolutionary, but given the whole wire trick thing, I think bricks can happen easily if you're not extremely careful
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Thanks anitgandhi for your response. I went thru the procedure and nothing came up on the screen. the screen is still blank. All I see is the red light on the trackpad. I'm not sure if the battery is dead or the phone is bricked!!
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Maybe someone with more experience in this type of thing will chime in but I DO know that if your battery goes dead when working at the levels that juopounutbear takes you down to it is very likely you have a brick. The same holds true for flashing most anything except for just the most minor things. You should ALWAYS have at the very LEAST a 50% charge on your phone before you attempt anything other than just using it.
The constant dim red light on the trackpad is NOT a good sign.
When you plug it in, check device manager for qload USB
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Thanks guys for your responses. Tried plugging it into the computer, computer doesnt see anything, no qload or anything. I had a full charge on the phone before the wire trick, so a dead battery is just a guess. I didnt learn abt revolutionary until after the brick! lol
I did try this too just in case, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27797058&postcount=18
and there was no response.
Should I find an external charger and try to charge the battery?
If you know someone with a Sensation and if you can borrow their charged battery for a minute you can find out pretty quick.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
cool, will try that! Thanks!
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cool, will try that! Thanks!
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Or the amaze it has the same battery also
I have been running the new cm9 ics ROM for about 2 days now, and had just got all my data and apps sorted and fully working. I sat down, watched some TV, and after 30 mins i checked my phone. Black screen ( i assume its locked) i tap the power button, nothing, again nothing. I now think i must have turned my phone off. I now hold the power button, nothing, again, nothing. I grab my charger, put my phone on charge and notice no orange or green light. I have repeatedly tried to revive my phone but nothing works. I don't know if its the software, battery, charger, Im so confused. Please if anyone has had the same problem, or has any suggestions, i would appreciate it very much. Thanks.
some extra details: i charged my phone over night the day before, so it shouldn't have died ( i know you shouldnt charge overnight, but i do :/)
i wasn't trying to flash anything or messing around with files, it was in my pocket.
i didn't drop it
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I have been running the new cm9 ics ROM for about 2 days now, and had just got all my data and apps sorted and fully working. I sat down, watched some TV, and after 30 mins i checked my phone. Black screen ( i assume its locked) i tap the power button, nothing, again nothing. I now think i must have turned my phone off. I now hold the power button, nothing, again, nothing. I grab my charger, put my phone on charge and notice no orange or green light. I have repeatedly tried to revive my phone but nothing works. I don't know if its the software, battery, charger, Im so confused. Please if anyone has had the same problem, or has any suggestions, i would appreciate it very much. Thanks.
some extra details: i charged my phone over night the day before, so it shouldn't have died ( i know you shouldnt charge overnight, but i do :/)
i wasn't trying to flash anything or messing around with files, it was in my pocket.
i didn't drop it
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Don't panic. Stay calm. The most of our ics roms suffer from reboots or freezes at this stage of development. Your phone simply froze, this can happen with screen on or turned off. If the three button combo (power and volume + -) does not work, You need to wait until the battery drains out.
if you pull the battery there is a chance to freeze your emmc chip and really brick your phone. If you connect the phone to PC before pulling the Batt there's a little lower risk. But I still don't recommend to do so. After your phone is running again, you should overvolt by 25 to hopefully prevent your phone from freezing again.
Ps.
Really, please stay calm, this happened to me about 20 times on ics roms and I'm not the only one.
Sent by my fingers to your head.
thanks, i will just wait then, is it normal that adb won't recognise the device? and also two things, how long roughly will it take to drain completely? and when it is completely drained, what do i do? charge as normal?
thanks a lot
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thanks, i will just wait then, is it normal that adb won't recognise the device? and also two things, how long roughly will it take to drain completely? and when it is completely drained, what do i do? charge as normal?
thanks a lot
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1. Yes, if it's frozen adb does not recognize the device
2. Depends on how much loaded your battery was. Could be between 1-12 hours
For me very often it didn't need that long, phone restarted by itself after some time.. (30 mins?) But sometimes I also had to wait long..
3.yes, charge normal
Edit: since your screen is off it could take even more than 12 hours
post your results
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Nothing yet i think i will have to wait to tomorrow
EDIT: 11:00 am GMT still nothing, it's been almost 24 hours; should I just keep waiting?
And is there any way to tell wether it's frozen, or the Emmc chip is broken? Thanks
Hey, I've been looking around the forums, and it seems to me that my phone's emmc chip is fine. I admit I did, in a panic, pull out the battery and re-insert it, but on other forums people with a 'fried' emmc chip can at least boot their phone, mine is just completely un-responsive, with a black screen and nothing, when you put it on charge. Am I right or could you shed some light on the problem?
Thanks
Gaff3rs said:
Hey, I've been looking around the forums, and it seems to me that my phone's emmc chip is fine. I admit I did, in a panic, pull out the battery and re-insert it, but on other forums people with a 'fried' emmc chip can at least boot their phone, mine is just completely un-responsive, with a black screen and nothing, when you put it on charge. Am I right or could you shed some light on the problem?
Thanks
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Seems to me exactly like the freeze I and a bunch of others are suffering from. If you think you can take the risk, you could try pulling the battery.
1. Connect to PC first.
2. Pull battery.
3. Pull USB cable
4. Insert battery after few minutes
5. Try to reboot recovery with adb
As I said there is a chance of freezing your emmc. You might succeed, but you might totally brick your phone too. I'm not responsible, I told you the risk..
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I had a spare battery lying around, did what you said above, instead putting the other battery in and not going on adb, but nothing happened. I think I am going to have to try what you said above ^^^
Oh and once I have put the battery back in do I turn the phone on? It might sound stupid but I don't want to get it wrong :/
Alright a few details:
My phone connected to the computer with a battery in (I don't have a clue how full it is) is not recognised as a 'device with removable storage'
It won't charge (or the orange light won't come on)
Yes, to see if it's booting, I would suggest to turn it on
As I said, try to reboot via adb.
And I would recommend to reboot into recovery and flash another ROM or backup, you don't want to freeze your phone again today, do you?
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I've taken my bay out and am just waiting a few minutes :/
Alright it seemsbe booting, could be a boot loop though
Edit : it's working I'm on the home screen of cm9
You don't know how much I love you right now thanks so much for all the help (I didn't even need adb, it just booted normally 0.o)
Keep your fingers crossed
Edit: glad you already solved it.
You're welcome mate
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As I said, overvolt by 25 to hopefully prevent the phone from freezing again.
Or simply do flash a stable ROM. I would prefer this as I don't like to freeze my phone and brutally pull the batt
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I'm trawling through pages and pages of ROMs I think I will stick to stable ones now
If you want sense, try endymion, by far the best.
No sense - reaper, fastest ever.
Just my personal opinion.
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I may have not the thread in its entirety..
But did you try VolumeUp + VolumeDown + Power button combination.
Which can often reboot a hung/stuck phone?
I am running CleanROM 2.1 with the CleanKERNEL and AOSP Blue Mod Theme on my GS3. It is overclocked to 1.70Ghz .It has been working great for the past 3 days or so I have had it set up like this. I took the OTA before re-rooting and reunlocking and before ever putting any ROMs on the phone. I had the phone on my car charger on my way to work this morning, after draining a bunch of battry streaming F1 practice. When I got to work, I pull the phone off the charger and we inside. When I went to check my phone, it was black. And still is. The phone was working fine while on the charger, but now I can not get it to respond to anything. I have tried to reboot, reboot to recovery, pull the battery, and have it plugged in. The only thing happening is the phone becomes warm while plugged in.
I have no flashed anything for 3 days or so. I don't know what could have happened. Any thoughts?? Please help. I am kinda freaking out right now.
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I am running CleanROM 2.1 with the CleanKERNEL and AOSP Blue Mod Theme on my GS3. It is overclocked to 1.70Ghz .It has been working great for the past 3 days or so I have had it set up like this. I took the OTA before re-rooting and reunlocking and before ever putting any ROMs on the phone. I had the phone on my car charger on my way to work this morning, after draining a bunch of battry streaming F1 practice. When I got to work, I pull the phone off the charger and we inside. When I went to check my phone, it was black. And still is. The phone was working fine while on the charger, but now I can not get it to respond to anything. I have tried to reboot, reboot to recovery, pull the battery, and have it plugged in. The only thing happening is the phone becomes warm while plugged in.
I have no flashed anything for 3 days or so. I don't know what could have happened. Any thoughts?? Please help. I am kinda freaking out right now.
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So you pulled the battery out, then put it back in. Then held volume up, the home button and then the power button?
What about Odin mode? Volume down, home button and the
power button?
Make sure to unplug the phone while doing this.
monkeypunch35 said:
I am running CleanROM 2.1 with the CleanKERNEL and AOSP Blue Mod Theme on my GS3. It is overclocked to 1.70Ghz .It has been working great for the past 3 days or so I have had it set up like this. I took the OTA before re-rooting and reunlocking and before ever putting any ROMs on the phone. I had the phone on my car charger on my way to work this morning, after draining a bunch of battry streaming F1 practice. When I got to work, I pull the phone off the charger and we inside. When I went to check my phone, it was black. And still is. The phone was working fine while on the charger, but now I can not get it to respond to anything. I have tried to reboot, reboot to recovery, pull the battery, and have it plugged in. The only thing happening is the phone becomes warm while plugged in.
I have no flashed anything for 3 days or so. I don't know what could have happened. Any thoughts?? Please help. I am kinda freaking out right now.
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This happened to me a few times but with a slightly different scenario. If i tried to power up my phone, it would give a brief vibration and then show me a battery sign with a big 0 on it (green battery image). No matter what i did it wont boot up. And my battery wasn't at 0% when it happened. I was able to get into recovery and restore a backup.
In your case, check if there is any power in your battery (or borrow someone's who has an s3) and see if you are able to boot into recovery.
Hope you are able to fix it. Good Luck.
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So you pulled the battery out, then put it back in. Then held volume up, the home button and then the power button?
What about Odin mode? Volume down, home button and the
power button?
Make sure to unplug the phone while doing this.
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Yeah, I tried all of the above. I don't even get a red light while the phone is plugged in.
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Yeah, I tried all of the above. I don't even get a red light while the phone is plugged in.
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Then it might be your battery as the other person mentioned. The bettery is either bad or the device is not charging it. Have you tired different chargers as well? It can even be your charging port...
Odin mode and recovery have nothing to do with your ROM when you boot into them. If you boot into that, it boots before loading your Rom.
Go to the Verizon store and just ask if you can try their battery from the demo unti or something if you do not know anyone else with an S3.
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Then it might be your battery as the other person mentioned. The bettery is either bad or the device is not charging it. Have you tired different chargers as well? It can even be your charging port...
Odin mode and recovery have nothing to do with your ROM when you boot into them. If you boot into that, it boots before loading your Rom.
Go to the Verizon store and just ask if you can try their battery from the demo unti or something if you do not know anyone else with an S3.
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There is guy coming in later today with a GS3, I will try his battery when he gets here. I know I was at 99% battery when I pulled it off my car charger. But, I suppose it is possible the battery is fried.
My bet is battery. Put it on the charger for 10 minutes.
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My bet is battery. Put it on the charger for 10 minutes.
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I have had it on the charger for the past 20-30min, and the phone has just gotten hot. Still no signs of life.
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I have had it on the charger for the past 20-30min, and the phone has just gotten hot. Still no signs of life.
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USB or wall charger? Weird if it was at 99% though. And you definitely unplugged it when doing the battery pull and trying to get into recovery.
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USB or wall charger? Weird if it was at 99% though. And you definitely unplugged it when doing the battery pull and trying to get into recovery.
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USB charger... wall charger is at home. And I did unplug it to try to get to recovery.
Can you get into recovery or Odin mode when the phone is plugged in?
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Can you get into recovery or Odin mode when the phone is plugged in?
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Nope.
Not good news.... just tried a co-workers battery in my phone, and the phone is still dead. I tried my battery in his phone, and his phone started right up. I have no idea what could have happened at this point.
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Not good news.... just tried a co-workers battery in my phone, and the phone is still dead. I tried my battery in his phone, and his phone started right up. I have no idea what could have happened at this point.
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Don't want to sound like a broken record, but have you tried keeping your power button pressed for 5-10 seconds? Its weird but the brief vibration I got in my case was when I had it pressed for a good 5-7 seconds and then nothing would happen. Just checking if you have the same symptoms.
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Don't want to sound like a broken record, but have you tried keeping your power button pressed for 5-10 seconds? Its weird but the brief vibration I got in my case was when I had it pressed for a good 5-7 seconds and then nothing would happen. Just checking if you have the same symptoms.
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Yeah, I have held it for 1 minute+. I am really lost on what could have caused this. It seems to me, and my uneducated mind, it may be a hardware issue. I just don't know what or why.
I just got home from work, still with no luck. I guess if I can't get life into it, Verizon can't either?
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Yeah, I have held it for 1 minute+. I am really lost on what could have caused this. It seems to me, and my uneducated mind, it may be a hardware issue. I just don't know what or why.
I just got home from work, still with no luck. I guess if I can't get life into it, Verizon can't either?
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I would just call for a replacement.
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I would just call for a replacement.
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This is kinda where I am at. I feel like it is a hardware problem more then a software problem aka not my fault.
So what was the final outcome on this?
This happened to me a few weeks ago. I had my GS3 for about a month. Everything was stock. Never rooted or unlocked.
Its a hardware issue.
If you return your phone to Verizon they will give you a refurb.
I believe the phone gets sent to Verizon not Samsung. Since I wasn't rooted it didn't matter for me, but since you can't even boot into ODIN at the store they won't be able to tell that your phone is rooted so they will order you a refurb straight away.
Its possible that when it gets to the Verizon testing facility they will discover that its been rooted and expect you to pay full price for the replacement. I have no idea.
Good Luck
Sorry for not updating. I ended up getting a replacement phone from Verizon. Looks like some other people are running into the same problem.
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Hi,
I've had my TF700 since it came out and I love it. It was running CROMBi-kk for the last month or so, and my experience has never been better. However, it would die before the battery reached anywhere close to 0%. I didn't care about that until last night, when it died at more than 50%. I was surprised that the battery would not calibrate itself over time.
Anyway, I drained the battery some more, until it could no longer boot, and left it on the charger overnight. It will not boot at all now. I held the power button down for more than a minute, on and off the charger, on and off the keyboard. It's completely dead. The only reaction I get from it is the green LED on the top of the tablet when I plug the charger in. It never starts booting up, never vibrates, nothing. The ROM has been stable until now, making me think that it's hardware. If it matters, it's been like this for 12 hours, and the tablet has been in room temperature.
Is there anything I can do to turn it on or verify? I don't care about data loss. Any and all ideas are welcome.
Thanks,
- Bocete
Bocete said:
Hi,
I've had my TF700 since it came out and I love it. It was running CROMBi-kk for the last month or so, and my experience has never been better. However, it would die before the battery reached anywhere close to 0%. I didn't care about that until last night, when it died at more than 50%. I was surprised that the battery would not calibrate itself over time.
Anyway, I drained the battery some more, until it could no longer boot, and left it on the charger overnight. It will not boot at all now. I held the power button down for more than a minute, on and off the charger, on and off the keyboard. It's completely dead. The only reaction I get from it is the green LED on the top of the tablet when I plug the charger in. It never starts booting up, never vibrates, nothing. The ROM has been stable until now, making me think that it's hardware. If it matters, it's been like this for 12 hours, and the tablet has been in room temperature.
Is there anything I can do to turn it on or verify? I don't care about data loss. Any and all ideas are welcome.
Thanks,
- Bocete
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Connect it to your PC via USB, make sure the computer doesn't go into sleep mode and let it trickle charge for 8 hours or so. The LED will not come on, but it should charge very slowly. This has helped some people to recalibrate the battery too, so hopefully it'll breathe some life into it.
BTW, it's never a good idea to totally drain the battery and let the tablet die for lack of juice.
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berndblb said:
Connect it to your PC via USB, make sure the computer doesn't go into sleep mode and let it trickle charge for 8 hours or so. The LED will not come on, but it should charge very slowly. This has helped some people to recalibrate the battery too, so hopefully it'll breathe some life into it.
BTW, it's never a good idea to totally drain the battery and let the tablet die for lack of juice.
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I'll do just that.
Yeah, I had no idea. The idea came from the (good?) old format-the-battery days.
berndblb said:
Connect it to your PC via USB, make sure the computer doesn't go into sleep mode and let it trickle charge for 8 hours or so. The LED will not come on, but it should charge very slowly. This has helped some people to recalibrate the battery too, so hopefully it'll breathe some life into it.
BTW, it's never a good idea to totally drain the battery and let the tablet die for lack of juice.
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I didnt realise it could take any charge from a PC USB socket! you learn something new every day!
Still dead. Leaving it on USB overnight didn't help.
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Still dead. Leaving it on USB overnight didn't help.
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Darn! Sorry man...
Did you have fsync off? If you have sudden reboots (and yours seems to have died multiple times from lack of power) you should not run it with fsync off..
I know, that doesn't help anymore - just thinking somebody else may benefit from reading this.
Leave it alone a couple of days and try again. Sometimes things magically do work themselves out...
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Darn! Sorry man...
Did you have fsync off? If you have sudden reboots (and yours seems to have died multiple times from lack of power) you should not run it with fsync off..
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fsync off cannot cause this kind of problems - in the worst case your data partition needs to be reformatted, but the ROM will boot. In the very unlikely case that you remounted the system partition writable and you crash while writing to it, you may have to reflash the ROM too. But it can never break the bootloader or the recovery.
Nah, this rom was running with fsync and without data2sd.
I think it's time to start looking for a new one ;( Not the expense I needed, but did I use it daily.
Bocete said:
I think it's time to start looking for a new one ;( Not the expense I needed, but did I use it daily.
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Several people who were in a similar situation have reported that their tablet "magically" healed itself after a few days, so there is hope.
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Several people who were in a similar situation have reported that their tablet "magically" healed itself after a few days, so there is hope.
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Still nothing. I think it's dead.
The upcoming TF303 looks decent. Can you anticipate how vibrant the modding community will be considering the Intel Atom? The modding community, along with your kernel work, made my TF700 usable, and I am really thankful for that. I would like to have custom options in case the stock kernel/rom do not deliver.
If Intel Atom is in any way problematic, I may try to get a new TF700. They're still being sold, and presumably not for long. The modding community for the TF701 seems basically nonexistant, which is a problem for me.
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Still nothing. I think it's dead.
The upcoming TF303 looks decent. Can you anticipate how vibrant the modding community will be considering the Intel Atom? The modding community, along with your kernel work, made my TF700 usable, and I am really thankful for that. I would like to have custom options in case the stock kernel/rom do not deliver.
If Intel Atom is in any way problematic, I may try to get a new TF700. They're still being sold, and presumably not for long. The modding community for the TF701 seems basically nonexistant, which is a problem for me.
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I had that just happen to me. What I had to do was open the TF700 up using the steps from iFixit and after opened up I turned the power switch slider on the main board to off for about a minute and then back on. Once I did that it powered back up again. One thing though if you're not comfortable with opening up you're Tab I would not suggest doing it because the plastic tabs that hold it together can be easily broken I got lucky and didn't end up breaking any of them. Still not sure why the Tab did this in the first place. In any case I hope this helps.
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I had that just happen to me. What I had to do was open the TF700 up using the steps from iFixit and after opened up I turned the power switch slider on the main board to off for about a minute and then back on. Once I did that it powered back up again.
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Glad you got it working again. Before that, have you tried pressing the power button for a very long time (like 30 seconds) or pressing the pinhole reset button? I was under the impression that these would have a similar effect as physically turning it off and on.
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Glad you got it working again. Before that, have you tried pressing the power button for a very long time (like 30 seconds) or pressing the pinhole reset button? I was under the impression that these would have a similar effect as physically turning it off and on.
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Yeah I tried all the usual methods of resetting including holding the power button for over 1 minute, hitting the reset button beside the HDMI connector and trying the PC slow charge route nothing would even get it to power up no vibrate at all. When I couldn't get any of that to work the last ditch was to try disassembling and honestly even after I did that I still couldn't get it to responds until I used the power switch slider and after that it started back up. I'm just happy it worked.