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Vibration not as strong as other phones?

So, is anyone noticing that the haptic feedback vibration on this phone is kind of weak relative to other phones? Not necessarily a 'bad' thing, but it kinda makes the phone feel cheap, know what I mean? Granted, it isn't a 9001-D, Deca-core, hypersentient phone or anything, but I think it's a stupid thing to skimp on if you're gonna skimp on anything.
I compared my phone to the phones of some friends of mine, and when I press the capacitive keys and type on their phones, it always returns strong, undelayed vibrations; whereas with my Triumph, there's sometimes a little bit of a delay between interaction and the vibration and sometimes I even have to question whether there was a vibration at all. Can we expect some way to increase the intensity in the future?

Yes it's much weaker than my Samsung Vibrant. I've notice it when I installed the beta keyboard Touchpal Curve for both the Triumph and Vibrant. In Touchpal setting you can setup the intensity of the keypress vibrantion. Have to crank the Triump up pass half to actually feel vibration, while the vibrant is just 1 increment.

sigg said:
Yes it's much weaker than my Samsung Vibrant. I've notice it when I installed the beta keyboard Touchpal Curve for both the Triumph and Vibrant. In Touchpal setting you can setup the intensity of the keypress vibrantion. Have to crank the Triump up pass half to actually feel vibration, while the vibrant is just 1 increment.
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LOL the Samsung Vibrant has one of the strongest vibration intensities of any phone I've had. Not a fair comparison

Soo what stop complaining about vibration , i swear yall complain over the dumbest stuff just STFU!
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iloveandroid16 said:
Soo what stop complaining about vibration , i swear yall complain over the dumbest stuff just STFU!
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If I feel like making an observation about a qualitative difference between this phone and others, I'm well within my right to do so on a forum dedicated to the Triumph. The phone is too new and the dev scene is too young to really discuss anything else. While we're here, we might as well discuss whatever comes to mind.
I'm not going to be returning my phone because the vibration isn't as strong as a higher-end one. That would be stupid, as it apparently isn't a defect. However, as Android is highly modifiable, I just wanted to know if the vibration strength could be modified in the future when things have picked up some speed and we've gotten a better idea of what will become available for modification.
tl;dr I'm inquiring, not complaining. The Triumph isn't a perfect phone but we've already established as much, haven't we? Any complaints made, as long as they're valid, should be posted so that we can all come together to figure out a solution (such as exchanging, waiting for development to start, or something else).

Went thru 5 triumphs, only 1 has low vibrate feeling. Its vibrate also sounds louder/looser/cheaper.
Goin to exchange for my 6th triumph.
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I always miss calls because I can't feel the vibration. It's really week and I've never actually felt it other than the haptic feedback.

iloveandroid16 said:
I would love to see ppl on here stop complaining about the little things,
Nothing is perfect so just deal with it, if you can take it back & get your refund,
Yes people its that simple
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iloveandroid16 said:
Soo what stop complaining about vibration , i swear yall complain over the dumbest stuff just STFU!
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iloveandroid16 said:
Im soo sick of all this moaning and groaning, suck it up! Use the return policy if you cant take it, like the old saying goes cant take it get the f*** out the kitchen!
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iloveandroid16 said:
Stop complaining devs will never buy this phone, dumb asses
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You, my friend, are the reason Operation Iron Fist is in Full Force. This is NOT that kind of forum. Please show some restraint, and lay off the 5 hour energy, and the haterade. This forum is for grown folks.

anyone else disappointed with the GB update?

call me weird but i was expecting more. the update release said new widgets and icons and colors and all im seeing is a new color on the notification bar. i have yet to find new widgets or icons or different looking icons or widgets. the phone looks exactly the same except for the notification bar and that little yellow thing that pops up when you reach the bottom of a screen. yes im happy about the speed improvement. the phone is a lot faster then before but other then that its the same old charge

the color scheme is wack. FUGLY!

dennis- said:
call me weird but i was expecting more. the update release said new widgets and icons and colors and all im seeing is a new color on the notification bar. i have yet to find new widgets or icons or different looking icons or widgets. the phone looks exactly the same except for the notification bar and that little yellow thing that pops up when you reach the bottom of a screen. yes im happy about the speed improvement. the phone is a lot faster then before but other then that its the same old charge
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This was a software update, not a device refresh. They fixed bugs, revved the Android version, and improved the radios. I'm not sure why you (or anyone else) was expecting major changes to the look/functionality of the device.

I'm not sure why they didn't at least take the Stratosphere's interface design/colors (which is more uniform), as that is essentially the same phone with a smaller screen and physical keyboard.

PeterDLai said:
I'm not sure why they didn't at least take the Stratosphere's interface design/colors (which is more uniform), as that is essentially the same phone with a smaller screen and physical keyboard.
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+1 My wife just got a Stratosphere and the color scheme is what the Charge's should've been. Everything that's poopy and orange on our phones is green on hers. Jealous...
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bluevolume said:
This was a software update, not a device refresh. They fixed bugs, revved the Android version, and improved the radios. I'm not sure why you (or anyone else) was expecting major changes to the look/functionality of the device.
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The Verizon PDF said so, that's why.
I see this as a major rip off. It's the biggest case of false advertisement since the Marvel Comic "The New Fantastic Four" which stated on the cover that the Punisher makes a cameo appearance and the only place you can find him is in an ad for subscriptions.
I don't really care seeing as I'm running the ICS theme....but F-U Verisung.

Rominucka said:
The Verizon PDF said so, that's why.
I see this as a major rip off. It's the biggest case of false advertisement since the Marvel Comic "The New Fantastic Four" which stated on the cover that the Punisher makes a cameo appearance and the only place you can find him is in an ad for subscriptions.
I don't really care seeing as I'm running the ICS theme....but F-U Verisung.
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B*tch b*tch nag nag, if you don't like it, go learn how to theme.
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One legitimate complaint that I have is they borked the built in screen capture function. You can no longer capture some screens (notification shade for example) because the phone lags while trying to produce a stupid animation before capturing the screen.
Yes, it would be possible to use an app from the market but I should not need to. They essentially removed a useful feature.
Also I find that the orange page limit glow gets in the way or certain things. It sometimes covers up what I am trying to look at. If I want to drag a photo to be able to see the edge in the gallery app for example when zoomed in. The stupid orange glow covers up the picture; having the glow cover up a web page is one thing but covering up the edge I am trying to look at is wrong. Essentially they removed the functionality of being able to drag a web page, image, etc., to the center of the screen and view it.
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ilovesoad said:
B*tch b*tch nag nag, if you don't like it, go learn how to theme.
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Some people don't have time to theme... Some people also don't root their device...
If you don't like their comment, ignore it. Don't insult other members.
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I was pleased with the update, and color scheme doesn't matter to me near as much as a more stable radio, and more responsive interface. Here is the reason I wish I would not have updated. CAMERA! I have a 2 year old and a 2 month old. Before, you could press and hold the shutter button to focus, and when you released it instantly snapped the shot. Now, that's a no go! A second + lag...... Hard to get the "good" shot that is hard to get. Bummer!

i love the speed improvements thats for sure. the phone is 100 times faster then it was but i think if verizon is going to publish documents claiming new icons and new widgets they should probably deliver on that.

I get FFC so I'm happy.
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I'm not happy. They took away and broke crap while in the process.

Well I just got my Charge from FedEx man 20 minutes ago, and after turning on phone and it "activating" the GSB update was the first screen to pop up, no user setup, Google account, etc. So i can't say how well the old version worked :/ But The update downloaded off 4G FAST...first app off market was Speed Test, and it got blazing 23069kbps down and 14094kbps up!

neobigd said:
Well I just got my Charge from FedEx man 20 minutes ago, and after turning on phone and it "activating" the GSB update was the first screen to pop up, no user setup, Google account, etc. So i can't say how well the old version worked :/ But The update downloaded off 4G FAST...first app off market was Speed Test, and it got blazing 23069kbps down and 14094kbps up!
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nice!! welcome to the Charge and LTE lol... now root that biotch and debloat/rom it
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Root bear?
anoninja118 said:
nice!! welcome to the Charge and LTE lol... now root that biotch and debloat/rom it
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Well heck ya I want to root. Looking at my options for ROMs...thinking mybe need to roll my own. Man we need move Devs

Go with Infinity.
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Got my Charge in May. I run stock because I don't care what the interface looks like. I need it to work, no time for bricks, make phone calls, txt, Google Docs etc. I was about done with Froyo because it was getting so slow, it seemed almost like it was being emulated on my phone. Was about to make a stink with Verizon.
Got the update. It fixed every single bug/complaint I ever had with the phone, and/or it enhanced every feature by fine tuning it.
Here is a short list of complaints fixed immediately:
GUI now hauls butt with little or no lag
bluetooth works perfectly and connects to my headset and stays connected
programs close on their own - don't have to constantly free memory
GPS works and is accurate
Yahoo Mail in email actually WORKS
The call quality is the clearest of any phone I've ever had (I do have great coverage here). 4G LTE hauls butt. With GB This phone makes my old iPhone looks like a piece of garbage.
Just my opinion.

i found the fancy new icons they were boasting about. the update available and download complete icons are new. ooohhhh aahhhhh.

dennis- said:
i found the fancy new icons they were boasting about. the update available and download complete icons are new. ooohhhh aahhhhh.
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My phone doesn't show an available update yet, not sure why, perhaps it's because I'm running Humble 5.0 and not stock . . . Anyway, when I do get the new OTA, how do I get the new icons/widgets? Is it a separate download or something? Thanks!

Now I know why this phone is so popular. First impressions, wow!!

I posted this in the Samsung Galaxy S2 section by mistake, when I should of posted it here. Didn't realize there was 2 different sections, anyho...
I just go this phone yesterday and all I have to say is WoW. This screen and performance is just amazing. I came from an X10, obviously no camprison, the S2 is a beast (in a good way).
What has really impressed also besides the speed and screen is the following built-in stuff:
Task manager, file manager, the fact that you can add a pattern lock and don't have to slide to unlock, the music controls in the notifications, the voice call controls in the notifications, the timer/stopwatch included in the clock, the neat graphics when you cut-n-paste is cool and even the magnifier when selecting text. I'm really impressed by Samsung's attention to detail.
A few small gripes though (nothing major):
1. No LED notification
2. No dedicated Camera button
3. I wish the USB port was on the top with the 3.5mm jack. Why? When I'm playing music in my car and I have to charge it and it's plugged into the 3.5mm it's awkward to place the phone on the center console.
(but these are very minor issue compared to the gains this phones has).
And another thing I don't know why people keeping complaining about this phone's plastics. I think it's a very well built/sturdy phone.
Sony is really behind, I don't think even their new Sony S/Ion will be a match for the S2 let alone the S3.
Edit: I just found out you can do a screen capture without having to root the thing. It keeps getting better and better.

Glad you are enjoying it. I think you will continue to for a long while. Not much to not like about it huh...

If you only knew how much better it could be if you root. It would answer your 1st two complaints.
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Yeah, I upgraded from an iphone 3gs about two months ago and haven't looked back! Had mine rooted within 15 min! I will never go back to apple!

samsung sure knows how to make screens
too bad they cant make os updates
when your bored of the stock att bloatware ROM, u should flash my ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525638

mhx said:
samsung sure knows how to make screens
too bad they cant make os updates
when your bored of the stock att bloatware ROM, u should flash my ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525638
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You seem awfully butt hurt by those OS updates bro
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mhx said:
samsung sure knows how to make screens
too bad they cant make os updates
when your bored of the stock att bloatware ROM, u should flash my ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525638
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I did this yesterday, I have to say it was far superior to the stock. Although I'm not sure where half the guys in your thread are getting these huge battery life improvements.

Jamolah said:
A few small gripes though (nothing major):
1. No LED notification
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Try NoLED. It's free from on the market (er.. Play). Only one thing I would tweak: Set the app to sleep while you're sleeping because it still uses battery to light the screen when there's a notification.

jedah said:
Try NoLED. It's free from on the market (er.. Play). Only one thing I would tweak: Set the app to sleep while you're sleeping because it still uses battery to light the screen when there's a notification.
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There is no LED on the phone so how is that app going to do anything?
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kr3w1337 said:
There is no LED on the phone so how is that app going to do anything?
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NoLED lights up your screen with a different colored pixel depending on what type of message is new. It might use blue for gmail, purple for outlook email, etc.
I prefer to use BLN myself. Lights up the bottom row of buttons when I have a new email or message.

UserRamma said:
NoLED lights up your screen with a different colored pixel depending on what type of message is new. It might use blue for gmail, purple for outlook email, etc.
I prefer to use BLN myself. Lights up the bottom row of buttons when I have a new email or message.
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BLN is what I use as well. Lighting up the screen seems inefficient.
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kr3w1337 said:
BLN is what I use as well. Lighting up the screen seems inefficient.
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Exactly -> inefficient & the default colors made it looked quite ugly. I actually really like the way BLN Control makes my phone look when all 4 buttons at the bottom are lit up and the phone is off...
Now if only they could find a way to light up specific buttons for specific message types! I wouldn't have to add MissedIt! to my lock screen to quickly see what type of new message I have.

I thought I was done with this phone when I got my Note, but after using the Note for over a month and getting irritated with the lag, I fired up my Skyrocket and was so impressed with how fast and smooth it was, I immediately switched back to it. Battery life has been better than I remembered, too.

A Farewell!

Gentlemen and ladies, just wanted to thank everyone here for helping me make my TB last as long as it did. I had posted many a noob question and everyone was very helpful in answering those goofy questions. I have migrated to the 8X, and will miss seeing all the stuff everyone keeps coming up with!
Just wanted to thank everyone who lended a helping hand!
Cheers!

I can't understand why people are jumping ship, the Thunderbolt is a GREAT phone and, with the right ROM is all anyone would ever need!
I'm sticking with it for two reasons:
1. because it's so perfect that nobody could ever wish for a better phone and
2. because UPS didn't deliver my Galaxy SIII today. It should be here tomorrow.

xs11e said:
I can't understand why people are jumping ship, the Thunderbolt is a GREAT phone and, with the right ROM is all anyone would ever need!
I'm sticking with it for two reasons:
1. because it's so perfect that nobody could ever wish for a better phone and
2. because UPS didn't deliver my Galaxy SIII today. It should be here tomorrow.
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Bah! Thats funny!

And it's here so I guess this is farewell for me, too.
I'm finished the set-up and so far I prefer the Thunderbolt, I suppose the S3 will grow on me eventually?
Last but not least, thanks to all here who have made the T'bolt a very good experience!

jerrya said:
Gentlemen and ladies, just wanted to thank everyone here for helping me make my TB last as long as it did. I had posted many a noob question and everyone was very helpful in answering those goofy questions. I have migrated to the 8X, and will miss seeing all the stuff everyone keeps coming up with!
Just wanted to thank everyone who lended a helping hand!
Cheers!
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Congratulations!
What do you plan on doing with the old Bolt? IF you are going to make it a paper weight might I ask for it. Mine lost the top half of the screen and the ear speaker is out. Not good when unemployed so looking for a free phone?
Thank you,

Even though I jumped ship to a DNA, my use of the Thunderbolt is not over. It now serves as my music player and as a GPS unit. It is now more convenient since having 1 phone and using it for GPS, it would be a pain when you get a phone call and then you end up lost or whatever. Now I can answer my calls and speak my texts as I'm driving with my DNA while still being able to navigate. So for me, my Thunderbolt is still very much active.
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xs11e said:
And it's here so I guess this is farewell for me, too.
I'm finished the set-up and so far I prefer the Thunderbolt, I suppose the S3 will grow on me eventually?
Last but not least, thanks to all here who have made the T'bolt a very good experience!
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I have a friend here who also was a TB user, he went with the S3 also, and really loves it. So I think its a learning curve, new setup that you will get used to. I am still trying to figure out just how I want my start screen set up, keep changing it. Eventually I will stop. Or die, whichever comes first!

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Even though I jumped ship to a DNA, my use of the Thunderbolt is not over. It now serves as my music player and as a GPS unit. It is now more convenient since having 1 phone and using it for GPS, it would be a pain when you get a phone call and then you end up lost or whatever. Now I can answer my calls and speak my texts as I'm driving with my DNA while still being able to navigate. So for me, my Thunderbolt is still very much active.
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My thunderbolt stayed in the family as I gave it to my little sis when I got the Galaxy Nexus last month. She loves the fact that I had it rooted and that I had the extended battery.

jerrya said:
So I think its a learning curve, new setup that you will get used to.
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My problem is the button locations, they're different! I have large hands and when messing around in recovery my ring finger constantly hits the "back" button, the power button is in a very bad place for me, etc. etc.
It takes a lot of getting used to!

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My problem is the button locations, they're different! I have large hands and when messing around in recovery my ring finger constantly hits the "back" button, the power button is in a very bad place for me, etc. etc.
It takes a lot of getting used to!
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Yea, like I said, my biggest issue is actually the camera button, I give it a love tap everytime I grab the phone. Thankfully its not an instant on, otherwise that would be a problem.
Its good to see though, that even with this minor (I believe its a minor) issue, its still a great phone. There is no way you can make the location of the buttons perfect for everyone since were all built with different fingers and hands.
And I didn't keep the TB, sold it back to Verizon for 33 bucks, and with the 8X on sale for 99, its nice to only pay 66 bucks for an over 500 dollor phone!
AND I think I FINALLY have the start screen where I want it. Now just have to figure out how to reduce the size of all my songs. With all the songs on, I maxed out the memory. Surprising, its still wicked fast with only 30mb free! WoopWoop!

FJ40dan said:
Congratulations!
What do you plan on doing with the old Bolt? IF you are going to make it a paper weight might I ask for it. Mine lost the top half of the screen and the ear speaker is out. Not good when unemployed so looking for a free phone?
Thank you,
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Sorry, see post above, its already on its way to Verizon.

FJ40dan said:
Congratulations!
What do you plan on doing with the old Bolt? IF you are going to make it a paper weight might I ask for it. Mine lost the top half of the screen and the ear speaker is out. Not good when unemployed so looking for a free phone?
Thank you,
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Yea my ear speaker is out also. I managed to blow that speaker and crack the bottom right hand corner of my screen.
GT P3113 Running Sungsonic HD JB 4.1.2
HTC TB Running Urban Nonsense ROM v1.5-R3Ds

I went to the note 2 first day it came out and haven't looked back. I do miss the simultaneous voice and data over 3g. I work in a 3g/4g fringe area.
Thunderbolt is now a slimed down bamf offline gps / music / trip tracker.
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How do you use GPS offline?

damusmf said:
How do you use GPS offline?
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There is an option to save your maps for offline use.
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Copilot is an app I use, but there are many others. You can pay anywhere from 10$-50$ depending on quality. I find copilot is a good mix of price, performance, quality. It's only been wrong twice in the few years I've used it.
I also use locus maps pro for my backwoods hiking and tracking.
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all the talk about lag?

When I see this i guess either mine is fine or I dont know what they are looking at . Some one could let me know what the lag is so I can check mine.

I get no lag at all
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Yay!!!! Another lag/no lag thread!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigtjmc said:
When I see this i guess either mine is fine or I dont know what they are looking at . Some one could let me know what the lag is so I can check mine.
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Its everywhere.... Where do I start? there is a delay unlocking the phone once your finger swipes, opening apps is slow, pressing home button to return to home screen is delayed (after disabling the home button in svoice), pulling the notification window down randomly stutters. Most of these are random and inconsistant, but 1 that I have found is ALWAYS an issue is in the Samsung Browser. Do this to see the lag. at the top there is the window notification in the broswer that shows how many open windows there are. Press it and see how long it takes to display the other windows.
The lag is everywhere... Had I not returned my HTC One to get this I would return it in a second, but they wont accept a second return now, so im stuck with a crap phone....

Im sorry that everyone is having these issues but mine seems fine and if it is lagging then maybe im not a super user and to me it dont seem to be a problem , my only issue is the keypad I keep hitting the numbers when typing and letters when spacing . And the windows tab opens pretty quick to me bout .9 of a second and it opens.

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Im sorry that everyone is having these issues but mine seems fine and if it is lagging then maybe im not a super user and to me it dont seem to be a problem , my only issue is the keypad I keep hitting the numbers when typing and letters when spacing . And the windows tab opens pretty quick to me bout .9 of a second and it opens.
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use a different browser and see how fast it is. Thats the problem .9 seconds is lag, I guess were use to different speeds. If you are coming from a craptastic phone that had alot of lag you wont notice it as much as someone who is use to a fast phone like a Nexus 4 or HTC One. Those phones are blazing, and honestly my old Note 2 was faster than this S4.

tdesbien31 said:
Its everywhere.... Where do I start? there is a delay unlocking the phone once your finger swipes, opening apps is slow, pressing home button to return to home screen is delayed (after disabling the home button in svoice), pulling the notification window down randomly stutters. Most of these are random and inconsistant, but 1 that I have found is ALWAYS an issue is in the Samsung Browser. Do this to see the lag. at the top there is the window notification in the broswer that shows how many open windows there are. Press it and see how long it takes to display the other windows.
The lag is everywhere... Had I not returned my HTC One to get this I would return it in a second, but they wont accept a second return now, so im stuck with a crap phone....
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After playing a bit with the one I do agree that it is quite a bit snappier however something about it just seemed boring. As for the lock screen I do agree and I was able to help the issue a bit by switching to the ripple effect apposed to light under lockscreen effect. Also switching to thumb keyboard greatly improved speed there. However after using it for a few days the little bit of lag either gotten better or I just notice less.

Might be just that , ive been on a htc vivid since November 2011 and it got to be a pain in the arse to use. Hopefully they will have something that will fix it soon.

No lag here, but I've said that already.
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I just came from an iPhone 5 and the GS4 is already back in the box. I used it for one day and it was pretty bad. I guess if I had used it longer I might have gotten used to the slowness of it but the fact that SVoice and Google Voice search didn't work over bluetooth in my car like Siri and Google do on my iPhone made me return it.

bothfly said:
I just came from an iPhone 5 and the GS4 is already back in the box. I used it for one day and it was pretty bad. I guess if I had used it longer I might have gotten used to the slowness of it but the fact that SVoice and Google Voice search didn't work over bluetooth in my car like Siri and Google do on my iPhone made me return it.
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Blue tooth voice search works for me flawlessly
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All this talk about lag is kinda chasing me away, of my dream of getting gs4, you guys think I'd be better off with the note 2?
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jrollercoasters said:
All this talk about lag is kinda chasing me away, of my dream of getting gs4, you guys think I'd be better off with the note 2?
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Yes the Note 2 is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother right out of the box...
I am seriously considering trading my S4 for a Nexus 4 or a Note 2...
This phone may get better in time but that time is NOT now..

Give Samsung time to address it....geez, guys!

EVOme said:
Give Samsung time to address it....geez, guys!
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Samsung and AT&T have a long track record of taking months upon months to address issues via a software fix..

Its just the trolls with the "lag". Guess they need something to post about.

raqball said:
Samsung and AT&T have a long track record of taking months upon months to address issues via a software fix..
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Root it in the mean time, install tibackup and start removing crap. Clearly the phone is loaded with only 8 or 9gb free on a 16gb device.

raqball said:
Yes the Note 2 is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother right out of the box...
I am seriously considering trading my S4 for a Nexus 4 or a Note 2...
This phone may get better in time but that time is NOT now..
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with already having root, and the bootloader unlock already verified to be coming soon, i think you would be doing yourself wrong to get rid of your gs4. since we now know that custom roms will be on their way. and since we know that custom roms do perform better than stock roms.

Anyone who says their S 4 doesn't lag is either lying, blind, or seriously has never used a lag free phone. I don't see how its going to be fixed either since its mostly due the the extraordinary amount of bloat in this version of Touchwiz with a tone of useless "features" that are also responsible for taking up so much memory space. I have an iPhone 5 which is lag free like all iPhones ever and a Note 2 which has a minor amount of lag in a few places. The shoddy cheap plastic construction, bloat, and minimal memory space is an insult to Samsung customers. At least the buttons are better but Samsung is out of control everywhere else. Ugh. They msut really think their customers will put up with anything they deign to slop down to them.

I did notice a tad bit of lag here and there and to me the 3 main contributions to lag in any s4 are this
1- stock browser ie. Keyboard lag
2-stock launcher, I use go ex
3-att crap bloat, I've deleted not disabled it all
My s4 is f'in fast as hell with no lag after addressing those three items
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