Will not having bloatware decrease our chances on cheesecake? - Motorola Atrix 2

So, I have heard that motorola looks for the bloatware that came on our phones when we look for updates. That being said, will this decrease our chances on cheesecake?
I for the longest time had much of the bloatware deleted off my phone. It's half the reason I root.
Until yesterday, when I had a little developer hiccup and had to flash the fxz.
This time I am keeping the bloatware on hoping to up my chances of finding that golden ticket in cheesecake.
All this to say, How "stock" should we really be while searching cheesecake to get the best chances?
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It should not affect cheesecake. Only when you go to install the update. Im on stock waiting for ics to drop. Im leaving my phone as is for now because i know as soon as ics is released ill be like a kid on Christmas day ready to install it.
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Ah, kid on Christmas is right.
The good news is that hopefully whoever gets it first will be smarty enough to post it here for the rest of us also.
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Bloated or not, it should have not affect the update process. In fact, I seem to remember FXZ'ing back to 2.3.5. and then rooting (jumping over the step to OTA to 2.3.6.) and checking for update after rooting. My phone found the 2.3.6. update, and I realized I had done this out-of-sequence. So, I FXZ'd again, OTA'd and then rooted. I have seen though that if you are rooted when an update appears, and after installing it, it will break root on your device. Just what I've seen/heard -for what it's worth...

Missing bloat will not have any impact on cheesecake, but it will prevent the update from actually installing once downloaded.
Motorola has checks in the OTAs to make sure that all of the bloatware is still on the phone, it does not give a crap about anything else, just that the bloatware is installed, and that you are listed as being on a stock ROM/build in the build.prop file.
Again all of this has noting to do with a cheesecake check since it is just logging into Motorola servers and doing a search for any update files for the edison phones (it gets that from your build.prop). If you have changed your phone to show as some other phone in the build.prop then change it back as that will make cheesecake not work properly.

Thanks guys. Just didn't want to hinder my constant search for the holy grail.
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I need a reason to do this.

Why should I need to root my phone, I understand about bloatwares from AT&T but need a reason if I root It what will happen? Also once its rooted, will I be able to get update android 2.2? I need a good reason why I should root it. So please help me out with those list of reasons. Thank you.
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Seriously, put a little effort into searching this forum. Look at one of the other android forums. If you don't know why you would want to root your phone, then you don't need to do it.
That's the problem, all the search comes out different. That's why I am asking on here cuz nothing comes out right. You don't have to be mean or even post on here if You didn't like to hear it. I just want the real opinion and all those opinions will summerize.
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Here's the things I've done since I rooted:
To get rid of the ATT apps (this one is important because they launch for no reason).
To sideload apps right from the phone.
To change the appearance.
To really "own" my phone.
I really don't know beyond that. I guess if you're fine without rooting it then don't. I used it happily for 2 weeks without root, but I couldnt stand the invasive launching ATT bloat.
What about the update, if its rooted, can I still get in air update?
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setcpu seems to be enough of a reason for me to root. seems to make a huge difference! will have to try and donate next payday

[Q] Is anyone working on a permanent root for the 2.3.3?

I was trying to root my gf's phone then found out it don't work on 2.3.3! Is anyone working on a perm root for 2.3.3? The temp root don't help me out because she is wanting to flash different roms on the phone.
Is there anyway to get the phone back to 2.2 so I can perm root it?
MoPho said:
I was trying to root my gf's phone then found out it don't work on 2.3.3! Is anyone working on a perm root for 2.3.3? The temp root don't help me out because she is wanting to flash different roms on the phone.
Is there anyway to get the phone back to 2.2 so I can perm root it?
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Yes they are, but for more info, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xda:+evo+shift+2.3.3+root
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Thanks but I have googled it and everything it pulled up was already looked at by me so it's not that I haven't searched. Just haven't heard of anyone making any leaps towards perm root. The fre3vo temp root don't help me much.
I found this guide.... http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Evo_Shift_4G:_Full_Update_Guide I'm guessing it isn't for the 2.3.3 OTA updated Evo Shift 4G or is it?
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I found this guide.... http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Evo_Shift_4G:_Full_Update_Guide I'm guessing it isn't for the 2.3.3 OTA updated Evo Shift 4G or is it?
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Umm, last I knew the revolutionary guys were working down the phones just like the twrp guys... I could be wrong but i say very soon we should have something
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i posted it in one of these many threads here last night that i asked agrabren about it and he said he cant do anything cause he doesnt have one to work with and hes one of the main ones that did fre3vo but hopefully one of thems looking into it for us
My g/f got me a Motorola Photon and I rooted getting it ready for when more development comes as way of roms. She had 2.2 on hers and I asked when she updated it and she said she didn't. She got her phone last December so she had to update it to 2.3.3 right?
Anyways I heard sprint can rollback to 2.2 but they usually won't because they don't want people going back so they can root their phones.
I have a friend at Radioshack, do authorized retailers have the ability to rollback to 2.2?
MoPho said:
My g/f got me a Motorola Photon and I rooted getting it ready for when more development comes as way of roms. She had 2.2 on hers and I asked when she updated it and she said she didn't. She got her phone last December so she had to update it to 2.3.3 right?
Anyways I heard sprint can rollback to 2.2 but they usually won't because they don't want people going back so they can root their phones.
I have a friend at Radioshack, do authorized retailers have the ability to rollback to 2.2?
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i tried to see if the sprint store here could roll mine back cause the tech person has a shift also and even she said they cant roll em back cause shes pissed she took the ota and got stuck on 2.3.3 too.
I Highly doubt ANYONE will get a perm root for 2.3.3 for sometime.... its already been out what a couple of weeks now. so im updating my phone because this gingerbread update is bugged like crazy... constant crashes after leaving every app. not receiving any calls or txts half the time, and WIFI is broken.
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I Highly doubt ANYONE will get a perm root for 2.3.3 for sometime.... its already been out what a couple of weeks now. so im updating my phone because this gingerbread update is bugged like crazy... constant crashes after leaving every app. not receiving any calls or txts half the time, and WIFI is broken.
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Revolutionary already said they are working on it on twitter, and update been out for couple weeks, WEEKS means not very long, give it time, it will happen.
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Revolutionary already said they are working on it on twitter, and update been out for couple weeks, WEEKS means not very long, give it time, it will happen.
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i know. but im going INSANE!!!! after ever damn app i close the white screen with the green HTC comes up for like 1 min. then the loading of the home screen. i see the damn thing at least 200 times a day. im already looking towards a new phone all together... dealing with that for a few weeks gets irritating extremely fast.
It is really annoying. I am just going to wait for root, put CM7 on it, and give it to my Mom or something...
I hate to see the root issue keep getting sugar coated by people that already have root, including me. Just to be brutally honest, its been 2 and a half months since the Shift was updated and I really haven't seen much evidence of any one working on root. I do remember one tweet from about month ago mentioning the Shift but beyond that its been pretty quiet. I'm not saying its never going to happen, and for all I know someone is working diligently behind the scenes, all I'm saying is don't get too high of hopes that its going to happen soon..... Hopefully I'm wrong though.
If people were paying for this I would see more of a reason for people to ask all the time. I know I am new to these forums but even I get annoyed with it. I want my Shift rooted just as much as the next guy. It's free, get over it.
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Im sure people would pay for it. People have offered to donate phones and such plus once a device is rooted developers can create root only apps.
Most of the devs do it for the challenge tho... Not everything is about money. That said im sure anyone that came out with a perm root would get donations for doing so.
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im giving it one more week from today. if not im sticking to the GB updates till they decide to catch up.
well hopefully all of you have learned from your mistakes and won't take a OTA update ever again if your phone is rooted
My photon is rooted. My girlfriend mistakenly hit ota update on her shift before I told her what rooting and custom rims do.
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MoPho said:
My photon is rooted. My girlfriend mistakenly hit ota update on her shift before I told her what rooting and custom rims do.
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Yeah, my wife was a lil hesitant about custom rims too... ;-p
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fallnSaint said:
Yeah, my wife was a lil hesitant about custom rims too... ;-p
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I think all wives have an issue with custom rims lol
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[Q] First time G2X owner and Noob to forum

Hi guys, I just got my g2x last thursday and think its one of the best phones out there. Its on stock gingerbread and Im wondering what kind of tips I can get from yall as far as making the phone look good and what are some of the best apps to use.
I am a previous iphone owner and the iphone was so easy to jailbreak and mod to my liking but after days of reading I see that its not as easy on the g2x. Can it be jailbroke? My other questions is how in the world can i get rid of apps currently on my device, i uninstall them and they pop right back up.
In Android world its call rooting. So the first thing you can do is root your phone. Read around how to do that. Then you should be able to uninstall any unnecessary app you do not like. After that you can install a custom kernel. Play with the over clock and under voltage on it. Then you can install a different rom like Cm7 or Miui.
There are lots of thing you can do with android. Thats why you think its not easy as iphone where you have only one option, jailbreak. Read around and take you time to play with you phone. Its not difficult at all and its lot of fun.
And BTW: Welcome to XDA.
First android phone here like you besides backflip which it was a temporary phone. It should be easy, it looked really complicated to me at first but I had a friend who walked me through everything. If u have any questions pm me or post in the thread. People here are glad to help. Welcome to XDA
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The g2x is surprisingly easy to hack. Especially on Linux. it's all simply laid out in the stickies. I'd suggest installing a rom ( operating system) before the kernel. I think it'll wipe the kernel when a roms installed.
Warning, everything I tell you will void warrenty.
Root. Gains access to entire device.
Install Clockworkmod recovery. This allows you to install zip files, along with SD card partitions, etc.
Install custom rom. As an iPhone user I think you should check out MIUI.
install kernel. Not sure if there's other kernels for MIUI roms.
Kernels are dependent on the rom. You want to be sure the rom you have is supported by the kernel you're installing before hand.
Uh... oh.
ROM MANAGER , after you root, could be found on the market. You can install Clockwork recovery from there (it does it for you) as well as roms.
Makes it a breeze. Doubt it's easier on the iPhone.
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pbcal said:
In Android world its call rooting. So the first thing you can do is root your phone. Read around how to do that. Then you should be able to uninstall any unnecessary app you do not like.
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I'm rooted and I still can't uninstall T-Mobile bloatware..
aceofserenity said:
I'm rooted and I still can't uninstall T-Mobile bloatware..
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You never want to uninstall the bloatware on a stock ROM as this will block any future OTA releases. The OTA and LG Updater checks your ROM and if it is not stock as it was delivered to you updates will fail the verification check. You want to buy an app from the Android Market called "Bloat Freezer." It only costs 99 cents and it freezes the apps - they don't run and are not shown in the menu; but since they are still in the ROM, just inactive, you can still get OTA updates. If you need to you can unfreeze the app at any time also. Much better way to go then deleting them.
I'm using AntTek app manager (free) to freeze my unwanted bloatware apps.
You're definitely guna love Android once you get the hang of flashing new ROMs and such.
Like you, i'm pretty new to this device also. So whenever if i feel the urge of doing something to my G2x, i always refer to this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049154
Good luck with your new G2x.
All true except this void warranty crap. If you pit everything back to stock before taking it T-Mobile there is Bo way whatsoever they know you changed anything. So don't listen to that part.
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xsteven77x said:
All true except this void warranty crap. If you pit everything back to stock before taking it T-Mobile there is Bo way whatsoever they know you changed anything. So don't listen to that part.
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Actually the hardware keeps count of how many times the NAND has been flashed; but they never seem to look at that when you send it for warranty repair or replacement.
Wow thanks to everyone that has replied!! Coming from iphone forums you guys are awsome, everyone replied nice stuff and I didnt get beat up like noobs do on the iphone forums. I will read into rooting my phone, I love hacking phones and I think Android is the way to go.

All Atrix 2 Users on ICS Leak!

I'am putting this thread out as a warning to all Atrix 2 users. Currently it seems that there is something wrong with the fkz patch to 2.3.5 from ICS. About 5 or 6 people have encountered this and after trying to flash through RSD Lite they have HARD BRICKED their phones. According to Jim, there might be something in the ROM (similar to the HK leaks) that causes a hard brick during an RSD flash. So this means we currently have no way to get back to stock. Jim and the other devs are looking into it.
SO UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I STRONGLY ADVICE, FOR NOW, NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AS YOUR PHONE WILL STAY BRICKED.
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I'am putting this thread out as a warning to all Atrix 2 users. Currently it seems that there is something wrong with the fkz patch to 2.3.5 from ICS. About 5 or 6 people have encountered this and after trying to flash through RSD Lite they have HARD BRICKED their phones. According to Jim, there might be something in the ROM (similar to the HK leaks) that causes a hard brick during an RSD flash. So this means we currently have no way to get back to stock. Jim and the other devs are looking into it.
SO UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I STRONGLY ADVICE, FOR NOW, NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AS YOUR PHONE WILL STAY BRICKED.
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You can get an advanced exchange by calling AT&T at the following number, if you have bricked using RSDlite:
1-800-801-1101
As usual, play dumb.
I don't plan I going back anyway...this leak blew everything out the water. I'll stick around on rooted stock till yall get this ball rolling. I have faith! Hahaha!
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Good warning though. Thanks man!
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DX2Trip said:
I don't plan I going back anyway...this leak blew everything out the water. I'll stick around on rooted stock till yall get this ball rolling. I have faith! Hahaha!
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You also cant get more leaks since cheesecake is not working with ICS at this moment... and you are also off the OTA train as well, since this is a leak, and the real ICS OTA will most likely have some more checks for system apps signatures.
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You can get an advanced exchange by calling AT&T at the following number, if you have bricked using RSDlite:
1-800-801-1101
As usual, play dumb.
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Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
qtqt710 said:
Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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as long as it is totally bricked, you should be ok. I guess you could just shock the hell out of the motherboard, but I wouldn't, even though it would be fun. Car battery anyone?
qtqt710 said:
Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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No they will not figure it out, and if they do you will already have your replacement. I have had 4 replacements now, due to my hacking this phone, and I have had an advenced replacement each time and never had an issue or been questioned once.
If you walk into a store, they will call this same number while you are there, and you will still have to be sent a replacement through 3 day delivery. Have a backup phone, even if you go grab a 10 dollar track phone and put your att sim in it.
Well this sucks. Thanks for the heads up on this. I was going to go back to 2.3.5 today because of the overclocking in this leak. The battery drain with it is a issue for me. I'll wait till a fix is available. Thanks again.
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You also cant get more leaks since cheesecake is not working with ICS at this moment... and you are also off the OTA train as well, since this is a leak, and the real ICS OTA will most likely have some more checks for system apps signatures.
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exactly, the problem is, once you go to the ics leak, you may never be able to get the real ics update. it may be possible, since you could keep this boot image and just flash the system, but there is no guarantee that would work and may even cause hard brick.
Keep in mind, this risk of hard brick is simply becaus moto decided to lock us down even more. they made an rsd flash not really possible. I think this same thing happend to the OG atrix people.
For some reason, Jim has had no problem getting back, but the rest of us have not been able to as of yet. we are looking into why that is and trying to find a way around it.
I do believe we will be able to find a way to get users now on ICS back to GB and back on the ota track, but even if not we may be able to at least make it so that they can unbrick from ics by flashing an ICS fxz like thing.
For those that have already bricked, there may not be a way back, but you can get an exchange.
For better or worse, one or two of our devs (not to be named here) hard bricked. while that means they will not be able to do much until they get replacements, they should be the best at figuring out how to get out of it if possible.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO TAKE FROM THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT YOU CANNOT GET MAD AT THE DEVS FOR NOT WARNING YOU. NONE OF US SAW THIS COMING. THERE IS AN INHERENT RISK IN MODDING YOUR PHONE, AND THIS IS EXACTLY IT.
Good warning! This will save a lot of ppl.
Thanks for the heads up, will wait for further info. Really enjoying this leak so far though.
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I bought my Atrix 2 in the USA and I live in Aruba, is there anything I can do to use warranty or something? Mine is not an AT&T phone.
I don't seem to find an MB865 motherboard online for sale.
Fowitho from
So about this "replacement" under warranty. What is the warranty on our phones? And if we do end up bricking, we just take it to ATT retail store? What if we bought it from ebay?
darkmixta said:
I bought my Atrix 2 in the USA and I live in Aruba, is there anything I can do to use warranty or something? Mine is not an AT&T phone.
I don't seem to find an MB865 motherboard online for sale.
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call or chat with moto, see if they will sell you one directly, but that might be expensive
Would this hard brick have to do with the generation of mb865? Because it work for Jim right? Maybe it fails with some models. There must be a constant in the hardbrick, maybe the affected members can give us some background info of their phones.
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Would this hard brick have to do with the generation of mb865? Because it work for Jim right? Maybe it fails with some models. There must be a constant in the hardbrick, maybe the affected members can give us some background info of their phones.
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So, just curious... are we screwed when the official ICS update comes out? I mean, I installed this on my man's phone last night and it is working great but I'm sure the final one is gonna have tons of fixes for various things... Wouldn't we be able to install bootstrap and flash a new official custom ICS rom when they come out? I've already rooted his phone on ICS. I'm just worried he's gonna end up mad with me now. Lol!
I'm confused as to why this would work fine for some people and hard brick others? The Fxz worked totally fine for me!
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So, just curious... are we screwed when the official ICS update comes out? I mean, I installed this on my man's phone last night and it is working great but I'm sure the final one is gonna have tons of fixes for various things... Wouldn't we be able to install bootstrap and flash a new official custom ICS rom when they come out? I've already rooted his phone on ICS. I'm just worried he's gonna end up mad with me now. Lol!
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I think when the devs find a way to get back to 2.3.5, 2.36 then we'll be able to take the OTA. No cheesecake support and cannot check for system updates. I'm sure these devs will figure it out for us...They're smart.
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I'm confused as to why this would work fine for some people and hard brick others? The Fxz worked totally fine for me!
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I think they're talkin about goin back to 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 from the ICS leak. Many have bricked I guess in doing so. So beware lol. If you on the leak, stay put.
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Update rolling out Soon

I spoke to a rep the other day regarding Jelly Bean. Long Story short he said it is rolling out to their systems now (computer support info) so we should have it very very VERY soon.
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Your title gives the impression that it'll be JB
Edit : you edited your post.
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blestsol said:
Your title gives the impression that it'll be JB
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actually, it implies the opposite. his post in sort of confusing though.
hopefully a small update is making the phone ready for the update. anyone whos waited before trying jb will be happy!
First mistake is assuming the reps have a clue about what they are talking about. They are lucky to dress themselves for work every morning. If I had a nickel for every time a rep told me an update is coming, I'd be a thousandaire.
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actually, it implies the opposite. his post in sort of confusing though.
hopefully a small update is making the phone ready for the update. anyone whos waited before trying jb will be happy!
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I think when he says a small update he is describing his post as a small update to here. No the actually Verizon update.
Of course the next Verizon update will be JB. They do not need to make our phone ready for JB, it is ready and the leak we have also says it is pretty ready to go.....
Yes to Jellybean. Sorry for the confusion.
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ddurandSGS3 said:
actually, it implies the opposite. his post in sort of confusing though.
hopefully a small update is making the phone ready for the update. anyone whos waited before trying jb will be happy!
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I'm familiar with your posts in other threads. Carry on.
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Never trust verizon reps....
I know a bunch of people who work for Verizon corporate.
I tell THEM when builds/phones are coming. I just updates their store model M to JB on Friday. They had no idea
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Delete.
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The leak seems more stable than the ICS official to me...
I think these delays are more of a marketing strategy of sort rather than a real technical time to get it ready.... I might be wrong but...
Well VZW is going to have to do something either right before or same day the Note 2 comes out.
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It seems more of a marketing strategy because t mobile released theirs after the note 2 was released.
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Verizon lies to there customers. When I bought the galaxy nexus I had 2 weeks to return the device. Signal was terrible but, loved the phone otherwise. I contaced them and they said and update when be comming out that would fix the problem but it would be after the 2 weeks of me being able to return the phone....no update acctually for several months then I was stuck with the useless phone.
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Well that depends, what's their definition of "soon".
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Verizon lies to there customers. When I bought the galaxy nexus I had 2 weeks to return the device. Signal was terrible but, loved the phone otherwise. I contaced them and they said and update when be comming out that would fix the problem but it would be after the 2 weeks of me being able to return the phone....no update acctually for several months then I was stuck with the useless phone.
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Same kind of thing happened to me. I wasn't getting an OTA even though one had come out. I went back to the store to exchange and he was like "it takes a while to get to everybody" so I went home and called Verizon and he advised me to go back and demand replacement.
I went back and demanded a new phone and he was like "fine I'll give you a new phone but the new one is going to do the same thing."
Well, he gives me a new phone, same sim card, and what do you know... first thing to pop up on the screen???
UPDATE AVAILABLE!
I laughed to his face and told him I would never be doing business with his store again.
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Same kind of thing happened to me. I wasn't getting an OTA even though one had come out. I went back to the store to exchange and he was like "it takes a while to get to everybody" so I went home and called Verizon and he advised me to go back and demand replacement.
I went back and demanded a new phone and he was like "fine I'll give you a new phone but the new one is going to do the same thing."
Well, he gives me a new phone, same sim card, and what do you know... first thing to pop up on the screen???
UPDATE AVAILABLE!
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Did you manually check for an update not long before you got the new phone?
From recent discussion, it seems there is a counter being kept for each account that notes when the last query for an OTA was made and it does not allow for a new check after a certain timeframe (seems anywhere from 2-4 weeks) after the most recent manual pull attempt. If your phone is not yet in the active queue for an active OTA push, the prior attempt will naturally return no new updates . . . but subsequent checks won't actually determine if you are in the OTA queue or not until the timeout period, even if your account was placed into the OTA queue by that time. My understanding is that this helps them balance load of the OTA downloads to some extent. Eventually, the OTA will be pushed to your phone, regardless of manual check attempts. It takes patience to wait.
However, this is bound to your account info, so changing a SIM card in the phone can make it seem as if the phone and/or SIM was the problem, because your prior, manual attempt was made when you were not yet in the active OTA queue, subsequent manual checks will not actually perform a check for the OTA for a period of time since the prior manual check - even if you were recently added into the active queue, and then a new SIM essentially resets the counter in your account and performs a true check for the OTA: if you were placed into the queue while unable to actually perform a check just before the new SIM, the OTA will now download and look like a miracle.
So, it does take patience. I experience the above symptoms exactly as described for the prior OTA and merely waited for the OTA to be pushed onto my phone - they gave me a timeframe for that and they were correct.
- ooofest
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Did you manually check for an update not long before you got the new phone?
From recent discussion, it seems there is a counter being kept for each account that notes when the last query for an OTA was made and it does not allow for a new check after a certain timeframe (seems anywhere from 2-4 weeks) after the most recent manual pull attempt. If your phone is not yet in the active queue for an active OTA push, the prior attempt will naturally return no new updates . . . but subsequent checks won't actually determine if you are in the OTA queue or not until the timeout period, even if your account was placed into the OTA queue by that time. My understanding is that this helps them balance load of the OTA downloads to some extent. Eventually, the OTA will be pushed to your phone, regardless of manual check attempts. It takes patience to wait.
However, this is bound to your account info, so changing a SIM card in the phone can make it seem as if the phone and/or SIM was the problem, because your prior, manual attempt was made when you were not yet in the active OTA queue, subsequent manual checks will not actually perform a check for the OTA for a period of time since the prior manual check - even if you were recently added into the active queue, and then a new SIM essentially resets the counter in your account and performs a true check for the OTA: if you were placed into the queue while unable to actually perform a check just before the new SIM, the OTA will now download and look like a miracle.
So, it does take patience. I experience the above symptoms exactly as described for the prior OTA and merely waited for the OTA to be pushed onto my phone - they gave me a timeframe for that and they were correct.
- ooofest
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Well I had been manually checking for like a week, however, I wasn't receiving an update that had been out for months. The phone was 2 updates behind!
The new phone with my same SIM updated instantly after it was set up. I didn't even have to manually check. And then it updated again. So I honestly believe there was something wrong with the phone. Very strange to not get an update that had been out for months, you know?
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