Hello,
I just want to share a confusion. The phone unlocking mechanisms nowadays are plenty. Apple patented "Swipe to unlock", while Google created "Pattern Unlock" and "Face unlock".
I find it very weird that no one thought about "Voice Unlock", specially that both Apple and Google worked hard on voice recognition for the past time and released spectacular applications.
Voice Unlock should have been done years ago and should have been so popular because, if done properly, it would be used much more than Face Unlock. If the phone can recognize its owner's voice when saying "Hello Nexus" or "Wake-up Nexus" and simply unlocks itself, that would something amazing.
I don't know what are the reasons for the delay in such technology but I do hope that it will be available soon on Android.
I just wanted to share this concern in case anyone has any idea why this unlocking mechanism has been avoided by Apple and Google.
Thanks
PeritoX said:
Hello,
I just want to share a confusion. The phone unlocking mechanisms nowadays are plenty. Apple patented "Swipe to unlock", while Google created "Pattern Unlock" and "Face unlock".
I find it very weird that no one thought about "Voice Unlock", specially that both Apple and Google worked hard on voice recognition for the past time and released spectacular applications.
Voice Unlock should have been done years ago and should have been so popular because, if done properly, it would be used much more than Face Unlock. If the phone can recognize its owner's voice when saying "Hello Nexus" or "Wake-up Nexus" and simply unlocks itself, that would something amazing.
I don't know what are the reasons for the delay in such technology but I do hope that it will be available soon on Android.
I just wanted to share this concern in case anyone has any idea why this unlocking mechanism has been avoided by Apple and Google.
Thanks
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That would kill the battery like crazy. Not to mention leaving the mic always on could be a very big security issue as then something could be used to record everything while the screen is off. Just because you can doesnt mean you should.
zelendel said:
That would kill the battery like crazy. Not to mention leaving the mic always on could be a very big security issue as then something could be used to record everything while the screen is off. Just because you can doesnt mean you should.
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The cam is not always on when using "Face unlock". The mic should definitely not be always on when we use "Voice unlock". Only when the user wants to actually unlock.
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The cam is not always on when using "Face unlock". The mic should definitely not be always on when we use "Voice unlock". Only when the user wants to actually unlock.
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Actually the mic would always be on, an inactive mic wouldn't be able to track said user's voice. The phone's camera is active(screen on) while the device is on, Android phones enter sleep/deep sleep after X amount of seconds. Unless you are suggesting that Voice unlock be used once a user turns on the screen...Which would be pointless since you would just use your hands or camera Via Face Unlock.
Now if you mean "hands-free" Voice Unlock, that would clearly require an active mic 24/7 so that it can always check for user input. Both seem useless though IMO. It takes like 4 secs to unlock in jelly Bean so why bother with the phone detecting your voice? That's precious time be wasted on a gimmick.
If I'm not mistaken, S Voice is capable of doing that.
i don't think so...
I think it is need a special kernel. S3 have it. maybe big guys can port it but it is must special for every device
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I hear over and over how the Ok Snapdragon is more responsive and the phone seems to pick it up better from the lock screen. What I was hoping for when the CM12 5.0.2 came out with the Ok OnePlus that my voice would be able to unlock the phone. I still have to put my lock pattern in after I wake it with Ok OnePlus. That kind of defeats the purpose IMO.
Will Ok Snapdragon do this?
Probably not, as anyone could say "OK oneplus" or "OK Snapdragon" and unlock your phone. If you set a pattern, you'll always have to enter it whatsoever. The only way here is to remove the pattern on the lockscreen and any other security method. "OK Oneplus" will then unlock your phone
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Probably not, as anyone could say "OK oneplus" or "OK Snapdragon" and unlock your phone. If you set a pattern, you'll always have to enter it whatsoever. The only way here is to remove the pattern on the lockscreen and any other security method. "OK Oneplus" will then unlock your phone
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I guess I was under the impression that the technology allowed it to use my voice to unlock the device.
At least I can say 'Ok OnePlus' to activate the screen then say 'Ok Goggle' to do hands free searches or start a timer (which I use a lot)
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I guess I was under the impression that the technology allowed it to use my voice to unlock the device.
At least I can say 'Ok OnePlus' to activate the screen then say 'Ok Goggle' to do hands free searches or start a timer (which I use a lot)
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NO, you are right, just disable ok, oneplus and then enable google now.
Connect your phone to power and say ok google, it will unlock itself.:highfive:
oneplus just simply sucks!! i purchased this phone for that feature only, never been able to use it.
never buy anything from them again.
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NO, you are right, just disable ok, oneplus and then enable google now.
Connect your phone to power and say ok google, it will unlock itself.:highfive:
oneplus just simply sucks!! i purchased this phone for that feature only, never been able to use it.
never buy anything from them again.
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so you are saying when connected to a power source it will unlock but when not connected it wont do it with the same voice command.
Not for nothing but why have a lock and then have it be disabled by a voice command. Its kind of counterproductive and see this as a feature and not a bug per se.
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so you are saying when connected to a power source it will unlock but when not connected it wont do it with the same voice command.
Not for nothing but why have a lock and then have it be disabled by a voice command. Its kind of counterproductive and see this as a feature and not a bug per se.
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This is how google protects the moto phones with always listening feature.
There is a lof of phone out there with the same CPU meaning they are able to use this feature (like theOPO and many others) but google hardcoded so we cant use it when you unplug the device.
I know it sucks but its marketing...
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This is how google protects the moto phones with always listening feature.
There is a lof of phone out there with the same CPU meaning they are able to use this feature (like theOPO and many others) but google hardcoded so we cant use it when you unplug the device.
I know it sucks but its marketing...
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I kinda agree with them and not have my phone unlock by voice. I getnit though if you wanna take that risk it should be on you
Anyone else having inconsistent results with saying "OK Google" while the screen is off?
It seems to work fine when actively using the phone, but if I hit the power button to turn off the screen then it may (or may not) turn the screen on with the Assistant after saying "OK Google" (nothing happens).
I tried turning on fingerprint/pin security, but this will still sometimes not respond to the command. Additionally, it will also still sometimes ask me for a pin even though I have "Trusted Voice" enabled.
Not sure if it's a hardware issue or software related (again, everything works perfectly if the phone screen is already on and in use).
Always works for me. Maybe you can try to redo the voice recognition step that was done when the phone was set up.
Yea, I've tried retraining my voice but still with the same results. It will at times always work perfectly and other times will be as if it doesn't hear my voice at all. I don't have any new apps installed and I even did a factory reset. Leaning towards getting an exchange but part of me thinks it's software related.
I think I've run into this issue a few times, but may need to see if it keeps happening.
I think most of the time that it has happened to me is when signal is low. I think signal definitely plays a role since the server has to translate your voice (maybe). At least that's how I think software listens to your voice and recognizes it was you and what you were saying.
Were you in an area with weaker signal when trying to say ok google?
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Yea, I've tried retraining my voice but still with the same results. It will at times always work perfectly and other times will be as if it doesn't hear my voice at all. I don't have any new apps installed and I even did a factory reset. Leaning towards getting an exchange but part of me thinks it's software related.
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I had the issue a couple times when I was experimenting with the feature. I think it is software related.
I think it is quite sensitive because as the warning goes "it can be a less secure method"
If I spam the fingerprint scanner it will say "too fast" and then require pin.
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Always works for me. Maybe you can try to redo the voice recognition step that was done when the phone was set up.
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xShadoWxDrifTx said:
I think I've run into this issue a few times, but may need to see if it keeps happening.
I think most of the time that it has happened to me is when signal is low. I think signal definitely plays a role since the server has to translate your voice (maybe). At least that's how I think software listens to your voice and recognizes it was you and what you were saying.
Were you in an area with weaker signal when trying to say ok google?
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I was not connected to wifi but the signal seemed fine. I'll keep an eye on it next time.
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I had the issue a couple times when I was experimenting with the feature. I think it is software related.
I think it is quite sensitive because as the warning goes "it can be a less secure method"
If I spam the fingerprint scanner it will say "too fast" and then require pin.
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The interesting thing is that it would also not work when I had no lock screen security on at all. In this case it just failed to turn on the screen and initiate the Assistant.
kinetic758 said:
The interesting thing is that it would also not work when I had no lock screen security on at all. In this case it just failed to turn on the screen and initiate the Assistant.
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Hmm looking here
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ok+google+trusted+voice+not+working
It appears it is definitely a software issue that isn't singled out in the Pixel
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nednednerb said:
Hmm looking here
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ok+google+trusted+voice+not+working
It appears it is definitely a software issue that isn't singled out in the Pixel
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Hm. But does "trusted voice" even matter if I've disabled all lock screen options? I thought it was only relevant if you had a pin/fingerprint set up (it was flaky with and without fingerprint for me).
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Hm. But does "trusted voice" even matter if I've disabled all lock screen options? I thought it was only relevant if you had a pin/fingerprint set up (it was flaky with and without fingerprint for me).
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In my settings in appears "Trusted Voice" is about waking the screen when it is off and "unlocking" to home screen and assistant EVEN IF other security features are off.
In OK Google settings is where I see trusted voice and the settings to voice wake device. Security settings are a different section.
What happens when you turn all security off and decrypt your device so there is no pin or password whatsoever?
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nednednerb said:
In my settings in appears "Trusted Voice" is about waking the screen when it is off and "unlocking" to home screen and assistant EVEN IF other security features are off.
In OK Google settings is where I see trusted voice and the settings to voice wake device. Security settings are a different section.
What happens when you turn all security off and decrypt your device so there is no pin or password whatsoever?
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I've added my work location as a "Trusted Location" (this is the place where OK Google seems to fail most of the time). It seems to be working better this way, but it's still a little too early to tell. If this doesn't work, then I'll try the tips you mentioned. Thanks again.
What is scary for me, is any time there is a Pixel commercial on TV and the guy says "OK Google", my phone wakes up. So quite the opposite from the OP experience. Actually scary from a security standpoint. The old Motos used to allow limited functionality via voice but not full unlock (smart idea). There should be a way to remotely disable voice detection if you lose your phone.
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I've added my work location as a "Trusted Location" (this is the place where OK Google seems to fail most of the time). It seems to be working better this way, but it's still a little too early to tell. If this doesn't work, then I'll try the tips you mentioned. Thanks again.
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I did this and am still having sporadic issues with it not waking after "OK Google". It fails probably 1 in 10 times which was the same rate as before it was added as a Trusted Location.
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I did this and am still having sporadic issues with it not waking after "OK Google". It fails probably 1 in 10 times which was the same rate as before it was added as a Trusted Location.
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I'm sorry to hear that. A little comforting to know I'm not the only one with this issue
A buddy of mine has a Pixel as well, and his responds to "OK Google" from sleep 99% of the time, so not sure if there's a difference in hardware tolerance with the mic (or whatever low power hardware they're using for "always on" listening), software, or if his voice is just easier for the phone to recognize.
Besides this issue, the phone is perfect (no scratches, no dead/stuck pixels etc), so I'm really on the fence about asking for an exchange.
I would consider a non-functioning "Hello Google" to be a benefit. The first thing I do on any Android device is remove as much as possible of Google's nasty Spyware, starting with the Google Now launcher and the "Hello Google" search.
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I'm sorry to hear that. A little comforting to know I'm not the only one with this issue
A buddy of mine has a Pixel as well, and his responds to "OK Google" from sleep 99% of the time, so not sure if there's a difference in hardware tolerance with the mic (or whatever low power hardware they're using for "always on" listening), software, or if his voice is just easier for the phone to recognize.
Besides this issue, the phone is perfect (no scratches, no dead/stuck pixels etc), so I'm really on the fence about asking for an exchange.
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I really don't think it's the hardware, but you never know. I don't yet have a large enough sample size to say if 1 in 10 is accurate in the long run or if it is truly closer to 1 in 100 that it fails to wake. I always assume we're beta testers for Google anyway so I have come to expect things like this.
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I would consider a non-functioning "Hello Google" to be a benefit. The first thing I do on any Android device is remove as much as possible of Google's nasty Spyware, starting with the Google Now launcher and the "Hello Google" search.
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I waffle back and forth on immersing myself (and my data) with Google to get the benefits of their products. However, if you buy a Pixel, you should damn well know what you're getting yourself into, and I find that your device will be much less useful if you do what you say you do. As always though, to each their own.
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I waffle back and forth on immersing myself (and my data) with Google to get the benefits of their products. However, if you buy a Pixel, you should damn well know what you're getting yourself into, and I find that your device will be much less useful if you do what you say you do. As always though, to each their own.
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This. I've embraced (at least for now) the fact that Google is collecting information about me. I've bought into it (also purchased a Google Home) with the hope that this will make my life easier (if slightly). A double-edged sword, for sure.
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However, if you buy a Pixel, you should damn well know what you're getting yourself into, and I find that your device will be much less useful if you do what you say you do.
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I figure I'm smart enough not to need Google to run my life for me. I will first root the Pixel and remove the stuff I don't want. When a suitable version of CyanogenMod becomes available, I'll flash that into it, as it provides additional security/privacy controls.
Anyway, I hadn't meant to highjack this thread....
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kinetic758 said:
I've added my work location as a "Trusted Location" (this is the place where OK Google seems to fail most of the time). It seems to be working better this way, but it's still a little too early to tell. If this doesn't work, then I'll try the tips you mentioned. Thanks again.
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Also try training the voice by saying Ok Google at 3 slightly different volumes and with varied pace. Do say it clearly each time. I found voice recognition doesn't work as well if I train it with a forced or monotone rhythm. Cos real voice is more fluid and not always the same.
Good luck
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Mine works every time.
This was never the case on the Nexus 6P.
The only time the Pixel DIDN'T wake up is when it was on low battery and save mode got enabled. I believe this disables the always listening feature of this app.
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ok so... with the phone on the table and the screen is off (standby). if i say "ok google" and do a search for anything. once im done i can hit the home button and it takes me right into home screen without inputting my finger print or password. So that means anyone can now say "ok google" and bypass any of the securities. come you guys confirm this as this is a major problem for me. I have the verizon edition pixel.
Audigy187 said:
ok so... with the phone on the table and the screen is off (standby). if i say "ok google" and do a search for anything. once im done i can hit the home button and it takes me right into home screen without inputting my finger print or password. So that means anyone can now say "ok google" and bypass any of the securities. come you guys confirm this as this is a major problem for me. I have the verizon edition pixel.
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Settings>>Google>>Search & Now>>Voice>>OK Google Detection - In here you can set options to secure this feature to your liking. Notice the 'Trusted Voice' Option which detects its YOU before unlocking. There of course is room for error where someone sounding similar to you in might be able to get it. That's why these features are there to disable if it matters to you.
I personally don't care much..
Cheers!
(There might be a faster way to get to those settings. That's just how I always remember to do it)
And it also makes you acknowledge everything you just said before enabling trusted voice.... you must've missed that part.
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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How long has your friend been using their V20? I know they become much more accurate the longer you use it, similar to the fingerprint scanner. Google has you train it to understand you with 3 sets of 'ok google' but that doesn't mean it's done learning. Give it some more time maybe? Just thinking...
hes been using it for 4 about a week now. the v20 is a nice. i feel it is noticeably faster than the note 7 i had. only issues are the screen it average. Its sharp but color is average. the hole phone vibrates from the speakers which is a downside for me.
Ill give the pixel some time to learn my voice and report back. hopefully i cant fool it lol
Try this
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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Press power button while Pixel is in sleep mode. That will bring up the lock screen. At the bottom of the screen you will notice a fingerprint icon. Tap that and you will get the message "Device will remain locked until you manually unlock."
No amount of saying "OK, Google" will allow access now until you either use the fingerprint scanner or enter your pass code.
Yea I pointed this out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69303648&postcount=12
It is a big issue. It should allow limited assistant functionality, but not entire phone.
as always, if you are so concerned about security on your phone, dont keep anything on it that you are afraid of someone else accessing..
very simple solution
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as always, if you are so concerned about security on your phone, dont keep anything on it that you are afraid of someone else accessing..
very simple solution
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Thats horrible.
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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km8j said:
Yea I pointed this out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69303648&postcount=12
It is a big issue. It should allow limited assistant functionality, but not entire phone.
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Both of you! Turn "trusted voice" off
It is a setting in Google -> Search and Now -> voice -> and OK Google detection.
Turn off "trusted voice"
No more "GLARING SECURITY HOLES" in... Your knowledge of your phone.
Because, asking for limited functionality of Assistant when trusted voice is off doesn't sound right to me.... Like asking for AI to know which questions are answerable while screen is locked seems too tricky at this time.
The design is to use a lock or leave it off, currently.
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Both of you! Turn "trusted voice" off
It is a setting in Google -> Search and Now -> voice -> and OK Google detection.
Turn off "trusted voice"
No more "GLARING SECURITY HOLES" in... Your knowledge of your phone.
Because, asking for limited functionality of Assistant when trusted voice is off doesn't sound right to me.... Like asking for AI to know which questions are answerable while screen is locked seems too tricky at this time.
The design is to use a lock or leave it off, currently.
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Well 1) the voice recognition isn't good 2) we want the functionality 3) the assistant could act on limited functionality: weather, reminders, send texts, make a phone call. If someone gets my phone and wants to manipulate a voice to send texts, whatever. This is how moto handled their voice assistant and it was perfect.
Oh this thread is now a feature request? It was about a security issue. Things can change.
Give Google feedback through "about phone" in settings! Maybe they will add the feature.
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Turn off trusted voice in Smart Unlock.
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Turn off trusted voice in Smart Unlock.
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Finally somebody with a smart answer...this controversy could all be avoided by a simple google search telling you how to disable the the trusted voice in smart lock, as the person states above. Im all about helping newbs out but research before you post...especially security stuff...... the title of you post makes it sounds as if there has been a security breach or major security flaw in the firmware.
Sounds about like the guy I sold a Gear 2 Neo too. I was showing him how to use some things and he freaked out when the Trusted Device feature left his phone without a passcode. So we disabled it, then he wanted to add a passcode to the watch to get get into it which really only works if it's disconnected from the phone. He was pretty honest about his reason. He's cheating on his wife and didn't want her to find out.
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Finally somebody with a smart answer...this controversy could all be avoided by a simple google search telling you how to disable the the trusted voice in smart lock, as the person states above. Im all about helping newbs out but research before you post...especially security stuff...... the title of you post makes it sounds as if there has been a security breach or major security flaw in the firmware.
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It is a security flaw if you can get through it with someone else's voice easily.
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It is a security flaw if you can get through it with someone else's voice easily.
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When I click on it in settings it tells me directly that it can be "less secure."
Yep. So it is not a flaw. It is a feature.
You should feel informed by the warning in settings, not like "it doesn't work.."
It is a fact more voices are similar and voices are easier to mimic than... Fingerprints. Rhythm and pitch are easy to steal. Ever hear of a cover band? Or confuse yourself which band you're listening to because of singer? If never... Wow dude.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
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I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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Agreed
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
nujackk said:
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
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I get that but I don't use it as I'm the opposite phone should be locked when not in my hand never know what will happen,who may come over to visit I have lots of nieces and nephews. One who grabs any phone he can.
But I meant it to be fast enough that it's as if it's not locked.
If you want to stick with
Smart lock have you tried use the voice feature it may work.
Also look into Tasker I seem to remember someone using it to unlock the device based on location. I use it to turn on and off my Wi-Fi based on location. Auto start my music when in my truck.
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
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Seems to be working better today. Disabled the "smart lock" in trust agents setting under fingerprint and security, then booted to the stock recovery and wiped the cache only. (I'm not rooted yet, but TWRP would work for this as well). Seems to have led to a fix, but it could be temporary. As for usefulness of smart lock, I am not worried about others in my own home taking my device and combing through it for all I care. If you have kids or are concerned about content on your phone being messed with, just don't use the feature. For a lot of people, it is a useful feature to have.
This issue has returned and requires a cache wipe almost every day. Beyond annoyed. I am considering deleting my fingerprints or any security. Pretty stupid feature that makes the phone require a password every single time I want to use it, when this feature could have alleviated that in so many places where I know my phone is safe (home, work, car).
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If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
rootSU said:
If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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Not all functionality is available when locked such as I can turn my WiFi connected lights on without unlocking but need to use the fingerprint scanner to interact with apps most apps.
It's funny that I wanted my previous OnePlus 5 to be able to do this particularly with AutoVoice Tasker scripts but now that I have this feature with my OP7Pro but I'm not so comfortable with the phone and potentially Google always being the fly on my wall.
Sorry but I've not spend any time trying to address the issue as you described as I'm still deciding if the convenience is worth the voluntary surveillance.
I regularly watch the Daily Pocket now YouTube show and have seen him toss his spying Amazon Echo as he hates that it listens and then inundates him with adds related to what he was talking about. At least Google has only done that after I've done web searches although I'm sure this is just a ticking clock from changing.
rootSU said:
If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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I would love to know this as well as I have Google/Nest hubs in almost every room of my house and hate that it turns on my screen every time.
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Not all functionality is available when locked such as I can turn my WiFi connected lights on without unlocking but need to use the fingerprint scanner to interact with apps most apps.
It's funny that I wanted my previous OnePlus 5 to be able to do this particularly with AutoVoice Tasker scripts but now that I have this feature with my OP7Pro but I'm not so comfortable with the phone and potentially Google always being the fly on my wall.
Sorry but I've not spend any time trying to address the issue as you described as I'm still deciding if the convenience is worth the voluntary surveillance.
I regularly watch the Daily Pocket now YouTube show and have seen him toss his spying Amazon Echo as he hates that it listens and then inundates him with adds related to what he was talking about. At least Google has only done that after I've done web searches although I'm sure this is just a ticking clock from changing.
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That is one of my main concerns, apart from battery drain that'd be there with constantly on mic (though have heard that newer QC chips have minimized that drain), google will always be on the listening mode, no matter if the phone is locked and in the pocket.
And I know that not much could be done from the lock screen, but it's annoying, my phone was on the table, and I was discussing something with my friend. I might have said something that would have sounded like hey google, and suddenly I hear "Here are the search results". Picked up the phone to see that it picked up certain words from the conversation, and had searched for it. As we were in a quiet room and the media volume was full, it wasn't very pleasing to suddenly hear that.