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So i was doing some messing around and i found that on my phone if i leave data enabled i get ridiculous battery drain while using the phone. Just enabling data and downloading an app of the market dropped me 3%. now if i have 3g data off i get maybe 1-3% drain per hour while using the phone. maybe its just me but i think its 3g data thats draining our battery more then it is the super amoled display.
Yes, 3g data drains the battery. Use the power control widget to turn that, and GPS, off while your not using it. Your battery life will be much better at the expense of things like weather widgets not updating and contacts not syncing.
Now, does this really need to be in the development section??? Come on man, post in general or Q/A or somewhere where it would make sense to post!!!
benjio12 said:
Yes, 3g data drains the battery. Use the power control widget to turn that, and GPS, off while your not using it. Your battery life will be much better at the expense of things like weather widgets not updating and contacts not syncing.
Now, does this really need to be in the development section??? Come on man, post in general or Q/A or somewhere where it would make sense to post!!!
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FYI the power control widget does not have the option to disable 3g data
benjio12 said:
Yes, 3g data drains the battery. Use the power control widget to turn that, and GPS, off while your not using it. Your battery life will be much better at the expense of things like weather widgets not updating and contacts not syncing.
Now, does this really need to be in the development section??? Come on man, post in general or Q/A or somewhere where it would make sense to post!!!
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Yes i know it drains battery but this seems to be excessive compared to other phones ive had (palm pre,htc hero,tmobile g1). Also if there was a Q/A section i would of put it there hehe maybe we can get a mod to make one.
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FYI the power control widget does not have the option to disable 3g data
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where can i turn off 3g?
I noticed the same thing with my phone. It seem when u do anything regarding the 3G your battery gets murdered. Yesterday i was noticing a 10% an hour battery drain with very little use. Over 5 hours i probably sent/received 4 or 5 text and talked for 4 minutes. Today using Juice Defender i noticed much better performance. Maybe only 4% drain with the same amount of usage.
Hopefully this gets addressed by either samsung or the amazing devs around here.
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I noticed the same thing with my phone. It seem when u do anything regarding the 3G your battery gets murdered. Yesterday i was noticing a 10% an hour battery drain with very little use. Over 5 hours i probably sent/received 4 or 5 text and talked for 4 minutes. Today using Juice Defender i noticed much better performance. Maybe only 4% drain with the same amount of usage.
Hopefully this gets addressed by either samsung or the amazing devs around here.
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awesome glad im not the only one with excessive drain from 3g
So how do you disable 3g manually?
I recommend Power Control Plus from the Market.
It allows you to make power widgets including 3G data, SD Card Scan, and a working flashlight app!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/8
Those battery life numbers dont look good...
Geez, I just looked at that battery review. The review does look bad. I get pretty good battery life on my phone. 10+ hours yesterday with heavy media streaming, talk time, playing games & browsing the internet.
Power Control doesnt work for our phones(at least for me), failing to control 4G & 3G.. something is amiss.. doesnt even notice that i have 4G hardware
Try juice defender, turns off data whenever u shut the screen
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Isnt there a serious delay when restarting 3G on that setting?.. not only that.. but everytime my screen is on, i dont want 3G running, sometimes im gaming, or doing other none internet related things.
Is there a 3G on demand button in juice or ultimate juice? ie.. only waking if prompted by a service needing the net?
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Isnt there a serious delay when restarting 3G on that setting?.. not only that.. but everytime my screen is on, i dont want 3G running, sometimes im gaming, or doing other none internet related things.
Is there a 3G on demand button in juice or ultimate juice? ie.. only waking if prompted by a service needing the net?
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Lol
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Lol
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so helpful
yes theres a widget that you can use to toggle data on juice defender. you can turn data on , off, or turn it on and have juice defender control it.
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yes theres a widget that you can use to toggle data on juice defender. you can turn data on , off, or turn it on and have juice defender control it.
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Thank you kind sir
No problem glad to help.
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No you can't shut off 3g the software wont let you
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I recently saw my friends TF300 and decided to check her battery stats, lets just say her stats made me really wonder if my tablet was defective, i already had doubts before though... take a look for yourself and see if the data makes sense... and no i am not rooted, really want to make a judgement call before 30 day grace period runs out though so please post up screen shots soon preciate it
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How on earth did your wifi suck all that power down, I would have thought the biggest killer would have been the screen !
same for me too!!
It shows around 45% for WiFi even if I am not using WiFi (But I will be connected to WiFi!)
I was reading comics stored locally on my infinity for some 2-3 hrs, and the biggest battery drain has occured from Wifi (44%) and bluetooth (44%)! The screen was taking just 10%!
Everytime, it would show a large battery drain, but equal drain by WiFi and Bluetooth.
So I tried switching off Bluetooth and checked. Then It shows WiFi as the biggest drainer again. I think this is the issue with the battery stats! Coz, after 3 hrs of comics reading and very light browsing, the battery had come from 100% to 76% with WiFi taking up 62% and the screen just 22%!
Check out this battery life.
My e-peen is enormous.
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Keion said:
Check out this battery life.
My e-peen is enormous.
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Actually try switching off wifi one day and see the battery stats! Ur battery will last almost the same as now!
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Hi guys, I have a strange problem, may say I'm quite desperate about it, because I've been seeking for a solution, however with no result :/
I have HTC Wildfire S, it's about 13 months old, rooted 5 months ago. I did not install any custom roms or anything like that (it's still original 2.3.5). I rooted the phone only in order to get Link2SD.
Everything went smooth, I have been using my rooted WFS for about 4 months, however one day I fully charged it and disconnected about 10pm. Since then the phone was just lying on the table, 3G running (as always). GPS, bluetooth off, no new apps installed or anything to make battery life shorter. At 7am next day the battery was completely drained, so that the phone didn't even want to turn on.
Since then, everytime I turn the internet on, the battery drains like 5% every 4-7 minutes... When I additionally use Facebook or browse the Internet, it is up to 30% every 5 minutes:/
I bought a new battery, but it unfortunately didn't solve the issue, so I sent the phone back to the official service.
After one week i got it back, but they said that 'the issue didn't appear' (they've checked power consumption and battery).... That's obviously not true, because on the way back home from where I got the phone back (about 20 minutes ride) the battery level run down from 60% to about 35%....
I really have no idea what's going on, please help me, you're my last chance;p
Of course in the meantime I restored the factory settings, restored original rom, got rid of root etc., but with no result. Better battery stats showed that the difference between Awake and Screen on was normal, so the phone gets into deep sleep...
I may add that this battery drain percentage is not equal every time (sometimes it is 5% a minute, sometimes 15%). With the internet connection on the battery is being discharged in about 3-4 hours, however with it turned off it lasts normally (even up to 2-2,5 days).
Regards,
Karol
Battery life is like that. 3 n half hours is the average on most roms. 4.5 is highest I think.
Turn off all the settings u don't use/need to use. GPS, location service, pocket mode etc from sound, background data, from network always enabled mobile net, vibration on keyboard, UI so on.
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finance.resat said:
Battery life is like that. 3 n half hours is the average on most roms. 4.5 is highest I think.
Turn off all the settings u don't use/need to use. GPS, location service, pocket mode etc from sound, background data, from network always enabled mobile net, vibration on keyboard, UI so on.
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It's not the topic like 'I just bought my first smartphone, I wonder why does it discharges faster than my nokia 3210". It is not my first smartphone, I know that 1-1,5 days is an absolute max for battery life, but in my case battery drain rastically arose during just a couple of hours...
With Internet on it always used to work for 1,5-2 days (with my use). My habits didn't change and now it lasts only 3-4 hours :/
It's really nothing out of the ordinary, if you keep 3G on at all times, you're not going to get more than 6-7 hours of scree-on time.
What you should verify is if it's heats constantly, because that'd mean you've got an app/process constantly running.
But for more than 8 months I've been using my phone exactly the same way and it was running at least the whole day with no effort... What should I check in Better Battery Stats? 3g was always turned on, however most of the time the phone was using EDGE/HSDPA, and so it is now.
Btw, Constant Connection (or how is it calldd in english) is turned off, as usual. Assuming that it really is the 3g issue, would turning 'gsm networks only' change something?
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karolmd said:
It's not the topic like 'I just bought my first smartphone, I wonder why does it discharges faster than my nokia 3210". It is not my first smartphone, I know that 1-1,5 days is an absolute max for battery life, but in my case battery drain rastically arose during just a couple of hours...
With Internet on it always used to work for 1,5-2 days (with my use). My habits didn't change and now it lasts only 3-4 hours :/
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Don't compare Nokia's symbian with android. I never played Texas Holdem Poker of Facebook more than 4 hours, in any of the roms, with screen off its last longer about 10-12 I think, I tried keeping nimbuzz on. But I have to keep it charged closed to my laptop conditions I think, I have a extra stock battery.
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finance.resat said:
Don't compare Nokia's symbian with android. I never played Texas Holdem Poker of Facebook more than 4 hours, in any of the roms, with screen off its last longer about 10-12 I think, I tried keeping nimbuzz on. But I have to keep it charged closed to my laptop conditions I think, I have a extra stock battery.
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I just wanted to say that I'm aware that smartphone battery is not able to keep to a couple of days... I really have no idea what's going on. I changed settings to GSM only and it seems that it helped a bit, but not much. At 2pm my phone's battery was 70% and now (11:30pm) it's still 30%. I will have to test this setting for a couple of days to see if it really helps...
Did u just put the phone on and that kind of battery drain happening? Then u need to change ROM.
If I put my phone on. Without keeping screen on, but mobile network on, it will last at least 1 day 24 hours I think. I am talking about keeping screen on playing/browsing. Screen on and internet uses most battery.
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I use the original ROM, 2.3.5. When the issue appeared I have reflashed stock again, but it did nothing. I even got rid of root access, still the same. My phone was always working with internet on, and it lasted at least 24 hours. Now it lasts up to 2 days with the internet OFF, with on, it's only up to 6 hours, and if I additionally make use of internet connection (browse the web, send an email etc.), my phone lasts only up to 3-3,5 hours :/
I bought a new battery but it changed nothing...
Karolmd, a lot of people obviously didn't bother to read your original post and replied with rubbish answers.
I don't have an answer but at least I understand what you mean. Your battery life had changed drastically even though your usage is the same.
Does the problem occur when you move a few miles away from home, ie so you use a different mobile phone mast. Its possible your phone company has an issue in your area and the phone has to strain to keep a signal.
I've seen my phone struggle for a few days to get a 3g signal near my home when normally its fine and it was traced to a fault with the phone mast.
Does the issue happen if you switch off mobile internet and instead just use WiFi at home just to test this theory. This will show if something is perhaps connecting to the internet all the time or not. If battery is OK on WiFi I'd be inclined to place a call to the network operator. They can check the various masts in your area - it can take a while for them to acknowledge a problem though so you may need to keep pushing them.
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scott_doyland said:
Karolmd, a lot of people obviously didn't bother to read your original post and replied with rubbish answers.
I don't have an answer but at least I understand what you mean. Your battery life had changed drastically even though your usage is the same.
Does the problem occur when you move a few miles away from home, ie so you use a different mobile phone mast. Its possible your phone company has an issue in your area and the phone has to strain to keep a signal.
I've seen my phone struggle for a few days to get a 3g signal near my home when normally its fine and it was traced to a fault with the phone mast.
Does the issue happen if you switch off both 2g and 3g and instead just use wifi at home just to test this theory.
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Unfortunately the problem occurs everywhere:/ 60km's from my home, as well as 500 (I've checked last week). When I switch to GSM only, it seems that the battery lasts longer, but it's still not what it used to be...
Did any of your apps auto-update just before you noticed the drain ?
Bazinga
omnomnomkimiiee said:
Did any of your apps auto-update just before you noticed the drain ?
Bazinga
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I don't really remember, but the problem occures even on a 'clean', newly flashed system....
Buy a new phone. Seems a internal problem, it drains really fast.
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Ok, thanks guys for help... Seems I'm gonna start a war with the repair service... Regards!
Our phone battery is like that....U have to move on and don't expect battery life longer than 2 hrs when using internet over cellular network....I recommend using wifi over cellular network
Have you try BatteryCalibration from playstore ?
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Yes, I have tried everything. Battery calibration, reset battery stats etc.
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Yes, I have tried everything. Battery calibration, reset battery stats etc.
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I recommend nt 2 use battery calibration...
I did it and after that I also faced battery issues earlier it use to last longer.........
Remove all the widgets from homescreen(//Very Important//). I was able to see the results.
Download these 2 apps from market...
1.Battery+(Just to look of the battery graph)
2.GSam Battery monitor(This can tell u what really is consuming ur device battery)
*#*#4636#*#* in dialer. Choose phone information and set to gsm only. That should help battery life. Try it out. If that helps click thanks
Remember when you reach full charged unplug. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. Reboot.
Then turn off auto sync and auto brightness.
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I have been looking at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725921 and see all these people with att gs3's getting all this awesome screen time of over 5hours. Some go into the 7s!!! I can barely get 4 my record is 4:52 and I have never been able to duplicate it. I have sync turned off, power save, debloated, you name it. I know CDMA eats more battery but to give them a 25% better battery is normal?
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I get 5-7 hours all the time so no I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Then again I am connected to WiFi quite often.
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I think lte is the major battery killer if you have it in your area.
I got what was probably my best battery life so far yesterday I had 30% left with 4:15 screen time including time spent watching streaming videos, listening to a couple podcasts, and playing like fifteen minutes worth of games. This was using Wi-Fi with Bluetooth and GPS turned off.
Also I think the auto brightness kills battery life too. I have the brightness slider in the notification bar and tweak it to match current lighting conditions. In dark rooms the auto setting seems too bright.
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Last charge cycle I went 26hrs w/4hrs 52min screen on...LTE was on the entire time. I agree leaving the device on wifi might gain another hour of sot, especially those in fringe coverage areas.
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I have been looking at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725921 and see all these people with att gs3's getting all this awesome screen time of over 5hours. Some go into the 7s!!! I can barely get 4 my record is 4:52 and I have never been able to duplicate it. I have sync turned off, power save, debloated, you name it. I know CDMA eats more battery but to give them a 25% better battery is normal?
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I don't know. There might be something to it. I have the Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile and I am amazed at the battery life. In fact that ability was one of the things I told my sister who got the Galaxy S3 on Verizon and her battery life sucks compared to mine. I checked her power settings and they are the same as mine. I am by far the more "POWER USER" type. Mine is stock - got the Jelly Bean update two weeks ago and have noticed no difference in the battery life with the OS update.
The only difference is when I am home, it live off of WiFi. I have good WiFi in my house. She doesnt have WiFi but VZ's cell network as we all know is much bigger. She has more bars then me.
She thinks it might be a bad battery and is planning on taking it to the VZW store and getting it swapped out. I doubt that is the issue. I was with VXZ before had the Original Droid and HTC and Samsung phones. Last was the EVO 4G and with that puppy it was....
Wake up (phone plugged into AC adapter) go to the car and right away plug it into the car charger for the drive to work once in the office plug the USB into the office PC. And do the reverse going home. If I was in a situation like in a Doc's office or at the Mall or restarunt.....I would be @ or below 50% within an hour.
My Galaxy S3 lasts all day with ease even on days where I am out and about and not @ my home's WiFi
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Last charge cycle I went 26hrs w/4hrs 52min screen on...LTE was on the entire time. I agree leaving the device on wifi might gain another hour of sot, especially those in fringe coverage areas.
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I usually get 5-6screen time
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I usually get an average of 4/5 hours of screen time.
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Will the phone have a longer battery life if the cell modem is set to 3g vs lte?
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Yes, in my experience with the S4 it's a pretty big difference UNLESS you get a very strong LTE signal. I'm on tmobile and now have the N5 and use the 3G setting which is HSPA/+ Plenty fast for me for what I do. When I want some extra speed I'll kick on the LTE
Does anyone have a more detailed answer for this? I just got this phone yesterday so I haven't been able to find out myself yet, just with 5hour battery life from 100% to 4% on what will only be half of its normal day I'm looking for anything to help right now till I get a battery case. This phone is one of only two to have a LTE radio that is supposed to use 30% less power than usual so I'm wondering if that makes it as efficient if not more than 3G for idle in your pocket to light stuff like FlipBoard.
it would depend on the quality of the data connection. im in brooklyn nyc, and use lte on my nexus 5 exclusively, used to use it on my nexus 4 as well. with 3g(hspa+), on both my n5 and n4, i average about 4-4.5 hours screen on time. when using lte, i average about 5-6 hours screen on time on both my nexus 5 and 4. after noticing this difference, i use exclusively lte on both my devices, as i average an hour more screen on time when using exclusively lte.
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Does anyone have a more detailed answer for this? I just got this phone yesterday so I haven't been able to find out myself yet, just with 5hour battery life from 100% to 4% on what will only be half of its normal day I'm looking for anything to help right now till I get a battery case. This phone is one of only two to have a LTE radio that is supposed to use 30% less power than usual so I'm wondering if that makes it as efficient if not more than 3G for idle in your pocket to light stuff like FlipBoard.
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Serious battery drain can have many reasons. One is having LTE on, syncing on(if you just booted it up, and input your Google account and let all your apps sync and download, its gonna drain your battery fast the first time), having locations on and wifi enabled. If you are in an area with poor reception, your phone will drain more trying to find connection.
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it would depend on the quality of the data connection. im in brooklyn nyc, and use lte on my nexus 5 exclusively, used to use it on my nexus 4 as well. with 3g(hspa+), on both my n5 and n4, i average about 4-4.5 hours screen on time. when using lte, i average about 5-6 hours screen on time on both my nexus 5 and 4. after noticing this difference, i use exclusively lte on both my devices, as i average an hour more screen on time when using exclusively lte.
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Thanks for the information. That's what I was wondering but I couldn't find anyone that had already tested this with these new radios. If I get the time this weekend maybe I'll do my own test in detail to compare LTE to 3G. Am thinking of using a TV episode on Netflix and see which makes the battery drop faster over the 30 or so minutes.
Slightly off topic, does anyone's WiFi show as always on in the battery monitor even if its been off? Still trying to figure out my battery drain issue, if it even is an issue with just me, I bought this phone knowing it had a small battery.
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Thanks for the information. That's what I was wondering but I couldn't find anyone that had already tested this with these new radios. If I get the time this weekend maybe I'll do my own test in detail to compare LTE to 3G. Am thinking of using a TV episode on Netflix and see which makes the battery drop faster over the 30 or so minutes.
Slightly off topic, does anyone's WiFi show as always on in the battery monitor even if its been off? Still trying to figure out my battery drain issue, if it even is an issue with just me, I bought this phone knowing it had a small battery.
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go to the main phone settings, wifi, 3 dots on the bottom right, advanced, then disable scanning always available..
ill be interested in seeing your results
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go to the main phone settings, wifi, 3 dots on the bottom right, advanced, then disable scanning always available..
ill be interested in seeing your results
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Seems that's a whole other debate on weather leaving that on or turning it off helps battery life. Apparently if you turn it off then apps that want your location will turn the GPS on and waste battery (looking at you Facebook...), but if you leave it on the phone just tells the app your location from WiFi networks around you.
One thing I didn't think about is I had added my work WiFi yesterday but it wouldn't connect to it, wouldn't tell me why but I'm assuming it's because of bad signal as I'm a valet outside and the WiFi is from a bar across the street so I forgot about it but WiFi was left on with that network saved, my Nexus 7 can connect to it on most days and any laptop has no issues but with this being a phone I guess it doesn't have a big enough antenna. So I'm wondering if now that I deleted that WiFi network, and I always have my phone set to not notify me of public networks, if my battery won't die so fast today.
And now I'm just rambling but I just looked at my screenshot I took yesterday of battery use before plugging in at 4% and WiFi isn't even being shown on top six things that used the battery, lowest one being shown is a Chrome process using 3%.
EDIT: Well off to work now with my phone 100% charged, will have screen 100% (am outside in the sun), BT off, WiFi on (disconnected, no saved networks nearby, open network notifications off, always on during sleep, scanning always available, avoid poor connections, and WiFi optimization), LTE on/connected, NFC off. So lets see how things go. It will have tons of screen on time as all I do at work is read through FlipBoard, then if I run out of things on there I move to FB. Lets see how this goes...
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/docum...envelope-tracking-technology-3g4g-lte-devices
Nexus 5 has it and its doing its job saving battery
Sorry for digging up such an old thread, but with LTE my Nexus 6P, it switches between HSPA and 3G. When turned to 3G, nothing changes. Would that mean I would save battery?
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