Hi all-
I didn't find anything in the wiki, and I couldn't find a directly-related forum- where would I look for or ask programmers about having a custom app built for a mid-size company that will need ~40-100 users?
We have an existing app on the Blackberry but as we are looking to switch to Android later this year, the BB developer has told us outright they do not intend to port or build for Android. :silly:
It is fairly basic functionality similar to that seen in numerous other Android apps; but these existing Android developers want tens of thousands of dollars to make simple modifications to their functionality. So I'd like to investigate whether we could just have something built from scratch ourselves, and then we own it outright.
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Firstly Mods sorry if this is the wrong section I didnt want to clog up the Development and Hacking forum. Please feel free to move this to the appropiate place.
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I've got an idea for a little calculator app with specific functions which I know will go down very well with independent store owners. I've programmed a very crude prototype for Windows using my very very simplistic Visual Basic skills.
The problem is for this app to be useful I need it to run on peoples phones as a third party app so as its portable, and here's where the idea totally falls flat, with all the different platforms like Windows Mobile and Symbian i'm just wondering what would be the best platform to go for and if its possible to create a version that might work across a wide variety of different phones maybe using Java.
My ideal target audience will more than likely be Nokia, Samsung and Sony Ericsson users as opposed to Windows Mobile users.
Would it be just easier to commision different versions and how much should i expect to pay for a basic auto calculation app. I'm thinking of commercially selling the product is there any disadvantages of getting a third party to program the application?
All advice is appreciated and thanks in advance for any replies.
Well, I am not very familiar with the platforms you listed as preferred, but from what I know you will have to go with Java to accommodate them all.
It is still likely that you may need several versions if you want to properly accommodate the form factor of different phones.
There is no such thing as a best platform for a calculator app, which does not have specialized hardware requirements. Unless of course you are planning on a graphical interface so screen size or touch screen are major considerations.
If you really want someone to program for you for one time only, you may be interested in this site: www.rentacoder.com
As for price there are several considerations:
1) How much stuff does the app really do? How robust is it?
2) Are there other apps that preform same or similar functions and how much do they cost if at all? A quick search of the net may reveal that your idea has already been implemented as a freeware.
3) Will your software have a home? Basically when distributing commercial software you have to take in to consideration such things as registration, technical support for your customers and future updates.
Sites like www.pocketgear.com will let you easily distribute your app for as little as 5$, but many customers are unlikely to pay larger sums for an app that does not even have its own web site, let along a number you can call if you run in to trouble.
Thanks that was very helpful, i appreciate all the info.
Is there anybody with specific knowledge about programming for the other platforms?
I realize the laughs, smirks, and shuns that the title of this thread may cause.
However, as the founder and community manager for bnxtreme.com, please hear me out.
I am posting this to clear up/clarify some misunderstanding regarding Android on the Blackberry Playbook.
NOTE: This thread is NOT about rooting the Playbook or completely replacing the QNX OS with Android or dual-booting. I will be creating separate threads for those, and hopefully, with enough traction, it could develop into its own section.
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After DevCon 2011 in October, RIM released their BETA OS2.0 for the playbook.
Included in this release were several new tools for the SDK/NDK, support for additional programming languages, and of course, the reason I'm posting here, a native Android 2.3.3 run-time. Now developers have both on and offline conversion tools to recompile almost any Android APK for use in the BlackBerry PlayBook in BAR format using only a few clicks as shown on the following page:
http s://bdsc.webapps.blackberry.com/android/tool/
Shortly thereafter, the various Blackberry forums throughout the web were abuzz about what could be done with this new BETA, how to get Android apps install, etc...
Within less than a day, the post appeared with very quick and simple directions for users to easily convert Android APK files to Playbook BAR files. Suddenly, the flood gates were now open and the list of applications being converted started to flood in, as did requests for those who 'got it' to do it for them. Less than 12 hours later, the list became too much for one person to manage alone, so a Google Doc was created based on a Google Form where visitors could submit their requests and updates. The list had taken on a life of it's own:
h ttp://bnxtreme.com/drupal/content/apk2bar-list
As you can see from this list, individual PlayBook users have been actively collaborating and converting various applications to demonstrate just how easy the process is. It is hoped that this list of converted applications will help encourage developers to re-release their respective application on the BlackBerry Playbook.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If your application has been added to this list, it was done so because it was believed to be a free application on the Android Market, available as a free trial online, or offered for free through the Amazon Marketplace. If this is not the case, or for any reason you wish to have your application removed from the apk2bar list, please e-mail us at [email protected] and we will have your application permanently removed.
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Now, within the last few weeks, ported Android applications have already started to appear in the Blackberry AppWorld, being made available to anyone running the OS2.0 BETA
ht tp://crackberry.com/handster-android-app-market-begin-submitting-android-apps-blackberry-app-world-behalf-developers
ht tp://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-playbook-f222/high-quality-free-android-apps-available-app-world-os2-users-679669/
The purpose for this post is to call upon Android developers to start porting their applications and submitting them to the Blackberry AppWorld. Again, the process is extremely simple and will open your applications up to a whole new audience.
Additionally, I am also posting to offer our services. Our team is both willing to help test any early BETA builds or to continue any abandoned development projects on their port to the BlackBerry PlayBook operating system; all you have to do is ask.
For more information on how easy it is to develop your existing application for the Blackberry PlayBook, please visit:
ht tp://us.blackberry.com/developers/tablet/
Thank you for your time to read this posting and we look forward to hopefully developing an active and healthy relationship with xda-developers.
Marc K.
Founder, Project Manager, and Community Manager for the BNXtreme Team.
@technomensch
ht tp://stayinginsync.info
ht tp://bnxtreme.com
I have just purchased a 32Gb Playbook and would love to support your objectives.
I am keen to use the PB on Android...I have little knowledge...but am keen
ANDREW
Why can't it be the other way? Blackberry Apps to Android? That seems to be better
I have an HTML 5 app built with Sencha Touch + Cordova. The app works ok and is already in production, but I want more in terms of performance for the future, so I'm thinking about rewriting it in another framework.
On propertycross.com some of the most used cross-platform frameworks have been compared... I went through all of them and for me the winner is with no doubt NeoMAD. The approach seems the right one: write in one language (Java) and have the native app generated for each platform.
I saw no difference in terms of performance between the native one and the one built with NeoMAD, also the app was only a bit larger (1.2mb the native one, 1.9mb the one built with NeoMAD), with Titanium and Xamarin I get an app 10 times bigger, not to mention the increased startup time.
By doing some research on the web though, NeoMAD doesn't seem much used... on stackoverflow I get only 5 questions with the neomad tag.
So why so few people use this framework? Seems to me the perfect one... Does anyone have any experience with it?
Hello Emanuele,
First of all, as one of the NeoMAD founders I was very happy to read your post!
To answer your question, I think there are 3 explanations:
1/ NeoMAD is available on the market since 2012 only and this is a first objective reason why we do not have a lot of users at the moment.
2/ Neomades is a small company with limited marketing resources compared to our main competitors.
3/ The Neomades team is mainly a tech one and we have not been so efficient until now in business dev.
However, NeoMAD is used for mobile developments by major french organizations such as CROUS, L'Oréal and TNS Sofres / WPP Group. Some of these applications are available on the app stores, you can find more information about it in the References section of our website.
We hope that comments like yours will catch the community's attention and increase the visibility of NeoMAD… without users and the developer community we will not succeed !
Fill free to contact us for any questions a [email protected]
Best regards.
Hey @memanuele
First of all, you need to choose the framework according to your specific project needs. It's really hard to name the one-fits-all framework. If you're in no hurry, you can spend some time trying different ones and thus deciding what will be the best variant for you.
If you don't have time, you can get initial information from the blogs, for example, here or here, to name a few. Google it, there's alot of interesting going on.
Edit: Ddamn, just noticed the date of the initial post...
Hi everyone,
Here is a little history first. In 2014 I helped develop a traffic counting app for an engineering buddy. I designed the UI's, the flow charts and wrote the 275-page illustrated, developers manual. The developer had it working in less than 6 weeks, thanks to, as he said, "to the awesome documentation provided". The app has been in use since then and has worked flawlessly on the original 24 tablets I originally purchased for him.
Recently, we have been asked to bring the app to a wider audience so, my question is, "Is there a way to prepare an image of the Android OS containing only the setup we need, and then clone it to the new tablets?" The app is designed as engineering tool and is not listed through Google Play and as such, it does not require most of the bloatware found on the new tablets. The app does require the use of photos, some file management along with network connectivity to send and receive the various data files required and produced by the app.
I have limited experience in rooting, but I have been successful when I done it on my Samsung phones.
As a certified Graphics Designer/Windows and Mac tech/COVID-19 survivor (nearly killed me, literally...LOL), I am aware of the amount of work that goes into aiding people with their "little" projects. Any help or direction in this matter would be deeply appreciated.
Hi, as some will obviously know, google is forcing a change in android development to be more like ios. Some developers and users wont even notice or care. Others may find the changes fundamental and devastating.
Some of the changes have come about in version 11 but will be fully implemented by 12-13. These changes are going to limit access to android file system. The way apps work and limit what you can install, copy, write to external usb etc. Others will mean total lockdown of security from installing apps and google spyware controlling what you can change.
Over the years we have all seen many versions of android in countless devices with as many custom iterations and mods. In a way. Us users and the developers have shown what's possible with imagination skill & ingenuity and happily let google lead us down the garden path making billions in revenue from our devoted support. Not everyone could see the control manipulation, development and exploitation. Not everyone even cared.
But it seems now that free reign google has given us in ability for hacks & mods and and the devices android can can be used on is coming to an end. Google is yanking its chain and reeling us in.
If you think scoped storage, or more play store control will just be an inconvenience think again.
Developers and genuine android experts will know this and will probably already be aware of some solutions. I hope so. As the thread count and discussions on this balloon maybe some will consider a fork of huawei's stripped down versions of android might be an option, however we feel about china. Let's hope some options will come to light soon.