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[Q] Inspire 4G Root

B"H
Can this unit be rooted using the same Desire HD methods? i.e. - Downgrade, root, and flash new ROM?
My assumption is that it's basically the same hardware, no?
Thank you.

attn1 will be releasing rooting details on Sunday

I hope he has root already :-D

I am not yet an Android user. Will be getting Inspire on Monday. But I was wondering if people think it will be possible to unlock the tethering function after rooting and junk like that? I still have the unlimited data plan so that would be clutch.
Thanks.

You should be able to do this even without root by sideloading (using the sideload wonder machine) a third-party app
junefabrics.com/android/index.php

Very cool, will probably be using that then.

magnumforce2006 said:
You should be able to do this even without root by sideloading (using the sideload wonder machine) a third-party app
junefabrics.com/android/index.php
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That program only supports USB and BT tether though, which kinda sucks. No wifi = fail

rwon said:
That program only supports USB and BT tether though, which kinda sucks. No wifi = fail
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What exactly does that mean? That you have to connect your phone to the PC using the USB cable in order to tether?

dovid said:
B"H
Can this unit be rooted using the same Desire HD methods? i.e. - Downgrade, root, and flash new ROM?
My assumption is that it's basically the same hardware, no?
Thank you.
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Yes, that will work, but you won't have sound when you're done. The kernel drivers are slightly different and we don't have proper source code yet. Also, we want to flash back our radio.
In the meantime, we can use the kernel supplied in the at&t inspire with the DHD roms.
Also, the DHD ENG Hboot maybe be a little squirrely with our radio. We had some oddness, so I don't recommend flashing that.
Update: DHD ENG hboot issue closed - it was another problem. The DHD/MT4G eng Hboot is fine. I don't recooment that newbs flash this - it gives you nothing you can't already do and there is a real possibility of bricking the phone flashing it if you don't know what you're doing.
I am working on a kit that will have everything needed to get root and radio s-off, including scripts to make this a bit easier. You can do this on Windows (provided you have installed the right USB drivers), OSX or Linux.
Note: A gold card *WILL* be needed. I can't include that in the kit. You can save yourselves some time by looking up how to make a gold card and getting that done ahead of time. You will thank yourself for it.

attn1 said:
Yes, that will work, but you won't have sound when you're done. The kernel drivers are slightly different and we don't have proper source code yet. Also, we want to flash back our radio.
In the meantime, we can use the kernel supplied in the at&t inspire with the DHD roms.
Also, the DHD ENG Hboot maybe be a little squirrely with our radio. We had some oddness, so I don't recommend flashing that. I am working on a kit that will have everything needed to get root and radio s-off, including scripts to make this a bit easier. You can do this on Windows (provided you have installed the right USB drivers), OSX or Linux.
Note: A gold card *WILL* be needed. I can't include that in the kit. You can save yourselves some time by looking up how to make a gold card and getting that done ahead of time. You will thank yourself for it.
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Researching it now..
Update:
looks pretty simple.

Will the gold card need to be the card that I use for the phone after I root or can I just use any micro SDHC card and then replace it when I'm done?

slapdaddy said:
Will the gold card need to be the card that I use for the phone after I root or can I just use any micro SDHC card and then replace it when I'm done?
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I think its just to root the phone with and that's all.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

Props to attn1 for getting the inspire rooted this quickly. I got my phone on monday and by using his method (and his hours of help) it was rooted by early wednesday morning.
Now I am impatiently waiting for a compatible CM7.

Is there a minimum size for the sd card for gold card? Can the sd card be used for normal usage afterwards?

My luck will be that none of my 3 micro sd cards will work for a gold card.

really not looking forward to a gold card method. Although its not difficult might hold out for a version without the hassle.

I am looking how to do a Gold Card and I keep seeing that you need the phone in order to do it. Is that true? ATTN1 said get it done ahead of time, so can you do it without the phone?

I don't really care so much about custom rom's, all I want is wifi hotspot and hsupa being enabled.
Hope this isn't too complicated. I plan on buying the phone, trying it out stock, and if I decide to keep it, root it for the 2 features above.

Anyone know if this rooting methode is going to be compatible with the telus HTC Desire HD?

mafiaboy01 said:
Anyone know if this rooting methode is going to be compatible with the telus HTC Desire HD?
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In looking at the process that attn1 describes, it should work with Telus, however, you would probably need to flash the Telus kernel instead of the Inspire kernel and use the Telus radio instead of the Inspire radio just to be safe.
It looks like the kit that attn1 is putting together will have specific pieces for the Inspire. You may want to visit and search the DHD forum for rooting specifics about the Telus DHD.

[Q] S-off and Gold Card?

I'm moving from a Samsung Captivate to this phone very soon. I was just looking around to familiarize myself with different things about these two phones.
One thing about my device (Captivate) that I love is the Odin software that allows you to flash back to stock. Is there anything like that for the HTC Inspire 4G? Or any way to get back to stock no matter what state the phone is in (as long as it's not a hard brick)?
Also, what is a Gold Card? I've seen the term used everywhere with absolutely no explanation! And what is s-off'ing your phone do?
Thanks

There is no app like odin but its really hard to break a htc device. I have bricked a captivate with bad odin flash and have never bricked a htc phone.

shep211 said:
There is no app like odin but its really hard to break a htc device. I have bricked a captivate with bad odin flash and have never bricked a htc phone.
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But how, if I wanted to, would I get back to stock? Like if I flash a custom ROM (let's say CM7), how would I get back to stock?
And still, what's s-off and gold card?
I also haven't seen anything on tethering (Mobile AP... I use this all the time on my Captivate).

.Candy said:
But how, if I wanted to, would I get back to stock? Like if I flash a custom ROM (let's say CM7), how would I get back to stock?
And still, what's s-off and gold card?
I also haven't seen anything on tethering (Mobile AP... I use this all the time on my Captivate).
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Yes all you need to do is flash the ruu which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
Then simply turn S-ON use bubby's one click here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
S-OFF is turning the security off so you can flash custom roms.
The gold card enables you to root the phone and turn s-off.
hope this answers your questions.
edit: I also think its flashing with CWM is a tad better then flashing with odin because you backup and recover your rom exactly as it was. All you need a computer to do is put the rom.zip on your sd card then you flash the rom from the phone and not your computer.

mudknot2005 said:
Yes all you need to do is flash the ruu which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
Then simply turn S-ON use bubby's one click here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
S-OFF is turning the security off so you can flash custom roms.
The gold card enables you to root the phone and turn s-off.
hope this answers your questions.
edit: I also think its flashing with CWM is a tad better then flashing with odin because you backup and recover your rom exactly as it was. All you need a computer to do is put the rom.zip on your sd card then you flash the rom from the phone and not your computer.
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Note that it is recommended to get S-On BEFORE running the RUU to get back to stock

.Candy said:
I'm moving from a Samsung Captivate to this phone very soon. I was just looking around to familiarize myself with different things about these two phones.
One thing about my device (Captivate) that I love is the Odin software that allows you to flash back to stock. Is there anything like that for the HTC Inspire 4G? Or any way to get back to stock no matter what state the phone is in (as long as it's not a hard brick)?
Also, what is a Gold Card? I've seen the term used everywhere with absolutely no explanation! And what is s-off'ing your phone do?
Thanks
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once you do some reading and root your first HTC phone you will find it is so much easier than your captivate and you will never what to go back

alwayslearning said:
once you do some reading and root your first HTC phone you will find it is so much easier than your captivate and you will never what to go back
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I'm still utterly confused as to where to start, and it's getting frustrating.
The Captivate forums at least had a sticky telling someone who just got their phone for the first time how to get started. There's nothing like that here. I'm afraid to do anything... I feel like I might brick it.
My main point: how would I flash my first ROM? What do I do? In what order?
All assuming that this is on a stock ROM, just as it is out of the box. I haven't changed anything (installed a few apps, but nothing that would affect rooting/flashing stuff).
Thanks :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcd1XQrTzE&hd=1
Follow carefully. Worked perfectly for me, I did it on day one when I got this...and threw my captivate out the window.

you're not the only one .. i am still reading up and getting familiar with it all as well .. to me the captivate (and galaxy tab) were easy to root and flash roms ... but the HTC is seeming a little intimidating at the moment till it finally clicks with me how it all works.

.Candy said:
I'm still utterly confused as to where to start, and it's getting frustrating.
The Captivate forums at least had a sticky telling someone who just got their phone for the first time how to get started. There's nothing like that here. I'm afraid to do anything... I feel like I might brick it.
My main point: how would I flash my first ROM? What do I do? In what order?
All assuming that this is on a stock ROM, just as it is out of the box. I haven't changed anything (installed a few apps, but nothing that would affect rooting/flashing stuff).
Thanks :\
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start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970824
you need to:
make gold card (watch Youtube video) or see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
ROOT your phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
s-off : it is done if you used the link in point two
ENG s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
flash ROM of your choice, this is the one I am using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207
flash kernel: in the above ROM it is included
flash radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
enjoy your phone and buy one of these guys a cup of coffee for their hard work

I'll be honest with you. The only experience I had with android was flashing my wife's captivate with the leaked froyo with odin. I came from a blackberry bold to the inspire (bought it outright). So I can tell you I was pretty confused, about what to do and how to do it. The link the posted above is how I did mine for the most part. To be completely honest it looks a lot more confusing then it really is. I just followed the instructions on the video to a tee, and followed the dev's instructions for flashing their rom. Once you do it the first time its simple after that. Almost all the dev's read their threads and will answer any question you have, as long as you ask politely. I know this doesn't help you very much, but I just want to assure you that it is not as hard as it looks by any means.

[Q] New Inspire: N00B questions

This has been menitoned in a myriad of threads in the past but, being a proud Inspire owner as of this AM, i am looking for some straight up info. My questions are:
1) What is the best\easiest\safest way to root, s-off, the works, the inspire?
2) As a follow up for the previous question, is eng-off required, recomended or is radio s-off good enough?
3) If i have a problem or need to return it, how can i restore it to complete stock? No CWM, factory bootloader, S-on, everything!
4) Lastly, as a newbie on android, comeing from IOS, even though i have a good amount of knownledge with Android, does the gold card need to stay in the phone, or can i use another sd-card, gold card it, root and s-off, then take it out and use another one?

AudioMaster13 said:
This has been menitoned in a myriad of threads in the past but, being a proud Inspire owner as of this AM, i am looking for some straight up info. My questions are:
1) What is the best\easiest\safest way to root, s-off, the works, the inspire?
2) As a follow up for the previous question, is eng-off required, recomended or is radio s-off good enough?
3) If i have a problem or need to return it, how can i restore it to complete stock? No CWM, factory bootloader, S-on, everything!
4) Lastly, as a newbie on android, comeing from IOS, even though i have a good amount of knownledge with Android, does the gold card need to stay in the phone, or can i use another sd-card, gold card it, root and s-off, then take it out and use another one?
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Please search before open a new thread as all your questions have been answered already.
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[Q] Returning to stock from Gingerbread-shipped Inspire 4G

Long ago, when I bought my Inspire 4G, my intent was to root it and install custom ROMs. With the old process using CMD to create a Gold Card, I also somehow created a file called "PD98IMG.zip". What I have learned is that, when on the SD card, when I place my phone into HBOOT, it will return to whatever that zip is, which is my stock rom. I'm not sure how I acquired it, but whatever.
Just in the last month or so, I dropped my phone in a toilet (don't ask), and I got it replaced with a new Inspire 4G. I was lucky that I had the water damage warranty. I went to go and root it like two days after I got it, only to discover that the old process didn't exist anymore, and wouldn't have worked with my Gingerbread-shipped Inspire 4G anyways. So I went off and used the Ace Hack Kit (worked flawlessly) and have been enjoying my time with the recently uploaded ICS ROM.
But when it comes to to get my phone replaced again (water damage, stolen, dropped, broken camera, broken volume or lock keys, etc.), will the "PD98IMG.zip" I had before work on my new device to put it back to stock? Or will this new device not accept a ROM from an older phone? And if so, what are my options for returning to the stock ROM using HBOOT?
Also, while I'm on HBOOT, does the said program worked on bricked devices? I would imagine you could access it anytime with the normal volume down+lock button, right, regardless of whether or not the device is bricked?
Thanks for reading this entire thing, I just like being really specific!
Jake Root

Haven't tried yet as I don't have reason too...but for educational purposes watch this to give you an exact idea of what said program is capable of...and always make sure using the latest version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eMcpoTPMU
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA App

Most likely the older PD98IMG is for the froyo OS. I know they changed something in the Inspires after august and it may not work correctly with your newer made phone. Also just running that file will not give you s-on anyways. So just forget it.
Just use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. It can download the appropriate ROM and return your phone back to s-on. It is all you will need.

I appreciate the responses guys. Agoattamer, do you know if, running the Ace Hack Kit, there is a menu option in the hack-ace.cmd for returning to stock Android Gingerbread? I was reading the effin' manual, but because I am kind of a n00b, I only sort of understood it. I read the following:
Flash Gingerbread Update
Flash AT&T RUU 2.47.502.7_26.10.04.03_M
I have no idea what that means. Is this a menu option in the cmd?
Thanks again, I really don't want to screw anything up.
Cheers,
Jake
P.s. What is RUU? I keep seeing it but I'm not sure of its meaning.

Yes the hack kit has a menu for returning to stock. Ruu stands for rom update utility. Its essentially the program used to flash a stock image(where the pd98img comes from)

Check out the video see how the menu options look like.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

If you read the first post of the Advanced Ace Hack Kit thread (yes you have to read the first post and the effen manual) you will even see pics of the menu mentioned. We can't stress enough here on XDA, especially if you are new. Read, Read, Read.

So if I ever need s-on and return to stock I can just use the ace hack kit? Will it be just like the rooting process where it just does it for you? Sorry kinda new
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

This is also a way to return to stock using a pd98img. Different method, same end result
genes tool
Just select gb version.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

Once again guys, I really appreciate your responses...a bit overwhelming, but every question I had was answered, so thanks!
Agoattamer, you are correct. I didn't look at that video close enough. I think I began watching it, and I thought it was something else, so I stopped and went on my way. Fatal mistake on my part.
Jake Root

[Q] Need to flash my phone back prior to the recent ota (1.63... doubleshot)

I am trying to attempt messing with this type of thing for the first time so noob handling will be required. My reason is simply my phone is a nice wallpaper display three days after the ota from tmobile 1.63.531.2 710rd.
I began by trying to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505999
To no avail. Of course I noticed afterwards that for some reason it says to turn s-on in the header... exactly the opposite what what I need to flash the phone back to (PG59IMG_Doubleshot_TMOUS_1.28.531.9_Radio_10.48.9007.00U_10.12.9007.07_M2_release_201815_signed.zip) I have had problems with the phone ever since its first ota a year or so ago. With this latest ota the phone is more or less bricked as of the phone using power saver when I went to sleep last night... Wont call or check into the network...no dial tone. Took me 3-4 restarts for it to even show the antenna symbol and the 4g icon in the taskbar.
My phone is set as S-on for now. The only instructions I have found through the search tool relay how to do it to the sensation... I believe that is the mytouch 4g not slide. However I have the slide which is doubleshot. So my question is, is this instruction on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 safe to use with the doubleshot since the (T-Mobile branded HTC myTouch 4g Slide ( doubleshot ) Developers Reference) page links to it indirectly. Using the link at the top of the how to S-on after s-off... again the opposite of what I need so I tried following the link at the top of that page " Guide to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on " which takes you to the s-off instruction page for the sensation (Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 )...I am guessing that it will work and sensation refers to HTC sense, but I don't care to make the mistake of doing it wrong and bricking my phone due to being derp.
I know there is a bit of overdone explanation and redundancy in the addresses I have left here. I am just trying to cover all my bases thanks for the help in advance.
The short and sweet is I need a link by link list with instructions on how to step my phone back for multiple reasons. First the recent OTA more or less broke my phone and I don't want a refurb phone with inferior parts from Assurion...(They were in class action lawsuits for this in the past.) nor do I want to pay 130$ for said replacement. Next from what I just read the 1.63 update has some serious security compromises that are awaiting response from HTC for an update. Basically it gives full accesses to all your data to include your sim and SD card contents to all apps. Regardless of user specified/agreed permissions.

Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!

WeekendsR2Short said:
Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Thanks for the hasty post reply any other suggestions...I have win7ult 64bit. Or will will juopunutbutter work even though they have the below disclaimer?
"Supported Operating Systems:
We only support Windows 7 32bit or Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. Win XP 32bit might work for you but we do not support it as we did not test on it."
Also, this, "Be on the Stock RUU and be rooted (have superuser flashed). No other ROMs are supported, Fresh ROM will not work regardless of what you have read elsewhere."
-I am not rooted. Which is something else I want to accomplish so I can set up firewalls that block certain things.
Oh btw provided I can get this phone working again I am also going to attempt to reflash my older mytouch 3g... back to original as well that thing worked better than any of the current phones for my purposes before it got the update prior to the 2.2.1... the original update didn't work with adobe which is fine with me, people need to move on from adobe's garbage anyway. Specifically with the old mytough 3g though that really did add functionality at the sacrifice of sanity since it slowed the phone down so much. On that note though I may just put on a custom if I can get comfortable with this stuff. The last time I looked at a pc this hard was back in win98se when you had to know how to do tricks to make it faster like modifying available rame to twice as much above and below physical ram and a few other tweeks I have long forgotten.
That brings me to another question. If I go custom rom and unlocked this looming threat of brick is weighing in on me. If a phone is bricked is it possible to recover using some of the same tools that bricked it in the first place... flash install original rom as a fix? Just trying to see how much margin of error I have to work with.
Thanks again.
PS who do we talk to about backing off all the java on the site since it is so compromised right now? This sight has more java permissions than most sights of ill reput... though I have been reading these forums off and on for a while so I trust it more than most with this much tracking. I doubt patch 11 actually fixed the issue...since the day before they said it would take two years or more to actually resolve the java zero day exploit.

You should be fine with your pc, I used a 64bit win7 too. If you're worried dual boot linux.
Your my touch 3g is rooted diferentley, go to that forum for details, its not true radio soff but its close enough.
If you brick it its dead, depending how it was bricked jtag could bring it back to life or this phone is part of the unbricking project which will fix some other bricks. Problem is people use brick as a term that means a whole lot of things so its hard to answer. Usually a brick is forever dead, most people don't actually brick their phone though and usually have to be neglecting things to do it.
As for java... just read up on a bunch of trustworthy places for more info and understanding
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I'm afraid I just don't know about Win 7 64bit and how it will react but I'm sure there has to be a person or two around with experience concerning that OS. It may very well work fine. I CAN tell you that the "wire trick" (junoptobear?) will work fine on MikTouch because that's what I used. It's a stripped down GB stock ROM which is all you're really looking for. Why....I don't know.
As far as bricking goes, there's not a GREAT deal to worry about as long as you follow all instructions to a tee. You REALLY don't have to even have S-Off to flash ROMs as you read in that link. You just need to flash the kernel after you flash the ROM. It WILL limit a few things you can do but not ROM flashing.
When it comes to rescueing a bricked device though, there are only a very few instances that can be done as far as I know. But I'm no developer either. But if you can make it to your bootloader and/or recovery you not bricked. It may be a hardware of software issue but most of the time you can come back from those.
As far as the Java issue you spoke of goes, you may be able to get an answer to that one by PM'ing one of our moderators or admins.

I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.

X-Lander said:
I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
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It's a simple flashing process but you HAVE to achieve S-Off first with the "Wire Trick". You can flash it forward without S-Off but not backwards. Does it work at all or is it just frozen to some point in the boot process? Can you access your SDcard? Can you boot to Hboot & recovery? These are a couple of things you will have to be able to do to go forward if I understand you correctly.