Windows 8, android device as touch input. - General Topics

I am looking to do some windows 8 development, as you may know they ethos is "touch first".
There is a built in simulator that i can use in Visual Studio but i would prefer to use some real hardware.
I currently own a Galaxy note, and was wondering if could use that as an input device.
Preferably i would like to be able to clone my desktop to my note and be able to control it there via multitouch.
If this is not possible, i would settle for the ability to simply use it as a multitouch tablet.
Anyone know how i could go about this?
Thanks,
Xyis

Well the closest app that does what you are looking for is:
Win8 Metro TestBed from Splashtop
it's a little pricy but it works pretty well.
Maybe it can help you to learn how it works.
Hope you develop a free alternative xD
Dave

Sounds like just what i was after and i dont mind the price too much, but my device is not supported and it sounds like it currently runs quite slow. Will definitely keep my eye on it though.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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[Q] Just picked up 3 G tablets....

I am a new member and have just bought the last 3 G's from my local office depot based on the forum support here for the tab. You guys are outstanding and based on the mods I convinced my wife to ditch dreams of her gettin an iPad.
Now my 1sst question I'd like to ask the community is has anyone tried the dual boot version of the G tablet and is it worth the money? I do alot of remote access to my server from my laptop, and would like to find a replacement for that method.
Not finding any good info on remotely accessing a windows machine from and android device, so I am considering the dual boot version for that purpose.
Any input?
There are plenty of VNC clients for Android, but I personally use LogMeIn Ignition (which is, admittedly, pretty expensive) because I already use LogMeIn's service elsewhere. Works like a dream.
For most people, typical VNC clients will work just fine. Depends on how you roll.
PhoneMyPC works well also.
machine73 said:
I am a new member and have just bought the last 3 G's from my local office depot based on the forum support here for the tab. You guys are outstanding and based on the mods I convinced my wife to ditch dreams of her gettin an iPad.
Now my 1sst question I'd like to ask the community is has anyone tried the dual boot version of the G tablet and is it worth the money? I do alot of remote access to my server from my laptop, and would like to find a replacement for that method.
Not finding any good info on remotely accessing a windows machine from and android device, so I am considering the dual boot version for that purpose.
Any input?
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It's not "cheap", but the Xtralogic Remote Desktop Client for Android is actually a very slick solution. It supports encryption, and has all the support you need for accessing Windows machines through RDP. The mouse is moved by using the screen like a trackpad, all keys are available, and with the Gtab screen size it's actually fairly usable.
Also want to throw out there WYSE PocketCloud works great and the trial is more than enough for my remote desktop needs (15+ servers). Works great on the 10 inch screen, no complaints here!
I can give you some real-world recent feedback.
I have dozens of servers I need to be able to remotely access and we do not allow RDP, so UltraVNC and LogMeIn is installed on each. I have already set up shortcuts for each server for convenience in setting up a new user to access them.
Every one of the VNC clients I have tried is lacking in some way. Some in several ways.
RemoteVNC has ads across the top so it is essentially worthless. I didn't bother trying it other than the first connection.
PocketCloud looks great, but I cannot find a way to import .vnc files (shortcuts) or send keystrokes to the login window. Very counter-intuitive, IMHO. Their support is almost non-existent in my recent experience, since I have asked in their forum and have yet to get ANY kind of answer from either their devs or their forum community. UPDATE: they JUST responded to me with "Sorry."
MochaVNC Lite has no ability to send CTRL+ALT+DEL that I can find so ... worthless.
Android-VNC has weird glitchy graphic issues the two times that I tried it.
LogMeIn is the only one that looked good and performed well enough for me to check statuses.
jwischka said:
It's not "cheap", but the Xtralogic Remote Desktop Client for Android is actually a very slick solution. It supports encryption, and has all the support you need for accessing Windows machines through RDP. The mouse is moved by using the screen like a trackpad, all keys are available, and with the Gtab screen size it's actually fairly usable.
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+1, this product is AMAZING and well worth the cash if you plan to use it a lot. I have it on my phone and tab and it's flawless. It allows you to save all settings for one click TS access and set the screen to 'full-screen' and will resize according to device AND layout!
+1 for LogMeIn Ignition for Android. I used to lug around my crazy heavy laptop when I traveled for business and now I leave it logged in at the office and access it via my gTab using LogMeIn. It works great and has plenty of folks using it if you need a question answered or issue resolved.
Thanks for the input on logmein. I've been using UltraVNC on my laptop to access all my machines on the network and has been great.
Will deffinately look into logmein pro.
THanks guys.
But 1 question remains unanswered. Has anyone had any experience using the dual boot G tablet? Is it worth the extra 2 bills for the dual boot option, or is just gimicky?
machine73 said:
Thanks for the input on logmein. I've been using UltraVNC on my laptop to access all my machines on the network and has been great.
Will deffinately look into logmein pro.
THanks guys.
But 1 question remains unanswered. Has anyone had any experience using the dual boot G tablet? Is it worth the extra 2 bills for the dual boot option, or is just gimicky?
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Do you Mean the Viewpad? Not worth it if you want android. it has android 1.6, also it uses an atom processor instead of a Tegra 2 Dual core.
HorsexD said:
Do you Mean the Viewpad? Not worth it if you want android. it has android 1.6, also it uses an atom processor instead of a Tegra 2 Dual core.
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Supposedly there's a group that's ported 2.2 over to x86, and the Viewpad is one of their main targets. I have no idea how well it works, or what its maturity is.
it2steve said:
+1, this product is AMAZING and well worth the cash if you plan to use it a lot. I have it on my phone and tab and it's flawless. It allows you to save all settings for one click TS access and set the screen to 'full-screen' and will resize according to device AND layout!
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Ah yes, another thumbs up for this one, Xtralogic that is! Absolutely top notch in my book. Well worth the 25 bucks if you plan on using it often.
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are you selling any of those 3
sjmoreno said:
+1 for LogMeIn Ignition for Android. I used to lug around my crazy heavy laptop when I traveled for business and now I leave it logged in at the office and access it via my gTab using LogMeIn. It works great and has plenty of folks using it if you need a question answered or issue resolved.
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The biggest selling points for me, outside of my nearly everyday use of LogMeIn, are multiplatform support, ease-of-use, and integration with an existing workflow. Mac or PC, I've never had problems. Couple that with ConnectBot (which I use to do CLI-based Linux admin) and the Linode and Rackspace Cloud clients for Android, and I'm pretty much set anywhere I have WiFi to rock things out.
I <3 this tablet.
I must say after playing and tweaking my tab to my likings, I am nothing but pleased. Spent some time setting up LogMeIn and everything is running smoooothhh....like butta.
A few FC's but nothing to get all bent over.

[Q] Transformer for students.

A bit of background: I will be attending UCLA as a computer science student in the fall. I will be bringing my desktop with me, and am trying to decide between a laptop/netbook or the Transformer.
Would the transformer work in conjunction with the desktop, or will I need a full laptop.
Thanks.
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You should consider what you want to use this device for before you decide. As a CS major, you will certainly be doing quite a bit of programming, and you might want to prefer to use a full linux environment for this, depends largely on the program you have at UCLA. What you can consider is to get this device and using the splashtop program access your desktop to do your programming. However, you will want to consider whether or not you want to utilize the local processing power of your device. It would be far simpler to use a laptop/netbook for those purposes, rather than trying to find solutions with the tablet+dock. In the end, if you find that you will be using the device docked most of the time for school, then you should probably consider just getting a laptop/netbook. If the convenience of the tablet and media consumption is something you'd prefer, then get the transformer.
tl;dr, I consider the transformer+dock a fun/entertainment device. For CS based schoolwork, you would most likely want a laptop/netbook.
unless you wanted to focus on tablet development in your coursework...but that's not for another 2 years...
Hope that helps.
It helped a lot. Thank you.
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Keep in mind that you can use the Transformer's bundled remote desktop app and/or a terminal app to control your PC, and run stuff that way - assuming you can connect to your desktop from wherever you are.
I do agree with omguss, if you don't plan on using the device mostly for entertainment, get a netbook/laptop.
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
There are two uses I can see being needed for me.
First I would need something to annotate on pdf's and powerpoints. I remember seeing an app that looked pretty solid for this so it should be good.
Secondly I would need an app that I can be typing with the keyboard, and then when needed draw in equations, graphs, pictures, whatever. Not really sure if there is something good for this.
As a programmer, I would suggest getting a full laptop for somebody majoring in CS. As much as I love the transformer, you cannot compile code on it. At least in my searching I have not found a single IDE meant to be run on Android (Lot's target Android, but none run on Android). More than likely, there will be several times that you want to do work away from your room. On the transformer, the only real way to do this will be remote desktop software. It's up to you whether you think the remote desktop software will be sufficient for this, but one other thing I would caution against is the small keyboard. It is far more comfortable (and efficient) to program on a full-size (or as near to full-size as possible) keyboard.
I don't know what type of program you are going into, but if you take any courses on 3d graphics you are almost certainly going to lose the ability to test your programs through a remote desktop connection.
I personally think that tablets are great in conjunction with a desktop. I plan to get rid of my netbook once I get the transformer. My only concern for you is that a tablet simply isn't a good tool for programming. If the hacker community manages to get ubuntu onto the transformer then the device will be an acceptable programming tool in my opinion; although, you will still lack a full size keyboard.
My advice to you is wait until mid-to-late summer. There is a slew of new tech toys coming out this summer, and almost anything you get now will be outdated by the time you start in the fall. By summer you will know if we managed to get Ubuntu on the transformer, AMD's Llano processor will be out on laptops, and Tegra 3 tablets may be just around the corner.
BongoBong said:
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
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Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
I'm a secondary school student, I have a HP DM1 (Not the Z ), runs 7 pro X64 + VS 2010 Pro + VS2008 Pro. Got a load of VM's for debugging ETC...
Windows is good for note taking to, Onenote is great.
Hope this helps
Badwolve1
good old days of using SSH + eMacs + X client, they all switched to windows in school?
Magnesus said:
Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
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Thanks, but I have already seen that thread and done some other looking up and the majority of discussion is whats the best handwriting app. They really don't mention how good it would be for mostly typing (understandable since most would be using the on screen keyboard).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039287&highlight=onenote
someone seriously needs to start porting some compilers to android..
many scripting languages are available through SL4A but most CS courses are taught with C/C++ or Java. I'd love to help out with this project but I just wouldn't know where to start
Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
j7899 said:
I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
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As a CS student myself I would agree with the above and add that in programming classes you will want all the screen real-estate you can get your hands on(17"+), a good amount of hard disk space, 4gb+ ram, and a good Virtual Machine program. Less important is video and cpu power unless you intend to make it a desktop replacement/gaming machine.
That being said... Such a laptop is going to be rather heavy. I am getting the Transformer to replace an early gen AspireOne for less technical classes.
Just my $0.02
Flowah said:
Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
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I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
smaskell said:
I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
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Right, but I'm interested in the Transformer almost purely because of the keyboard dock, so keyboard input only is fine with me tbh. As long as it's decently full featured.
I'm waiting to see if the AMD Llano will make the best thin gaming laptop. Hopefully, new AMD laptops will come out in June, right before back-to-school season.
Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
joe_dude said:
Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
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Onenote is the single most useful piece of software MS has ever produced (Excluding win7;p))
Virtual Machines? Eh, I never needed to use one except when I was using a Mac. Wandering what you guys are doing with it.
Any laptop that is 13"+ in screen size is good. The power of the computer depends on what you plan to do. So you have to decide on the specs yourself. Dual Core is fine unless you plan to do any CPU intensive tasks. If you ever need a bigger screen, then you can just buy a monitor and hook it up so even a netbook could be fine if you are okay with the power it gives. 13"-15" is good. 17" is just monstrous and you don't want to be lugging that around.

[Q] Asus eee transformer rom

Hi,
i am a real fan of windows mobile and i like it ALOT. my question is, is it possible to get windows mobile on the asus eee transformer? i really want it and i will offer alot for it. prefferably windows mobile 6.5 ofcourse. how can i do it myself and how long does it take?
best regards and thanks,
jakob sebens

			
				
yeah i know it sounds crazy, but i cannot get used to android and i really dont like google with their ads, i just wnat plain old windows mobile 6.5 i saw a couple of china tablets, but i want a nice powerful device with: indeed, windows mobile.
Well, as far as I know, there isn't a way to get it.
Nobody has ported it over and I'm not thinking there is enough interest to do so.
If you don't like android then an android tablet may not be the way to go.
If you would like to get rid of the ads all you need to do is root and install an app like adfree.
BTW, the ads are put in by the app developers, not Google.
ZOMFG are you retarded?
you reason is "i dont like android"
sell the tf and buy a windows tab.
jakobsebens said:
Hi,
i am a real fan of windows mobile and i like it ALOT. my question is, is it possible to get windows mobile on the asus eee transformer? i really want it and i will offer alot for it. prefferably windows mobile 6.5 ofcourse. how can i do it myself and how long does it take?
best regards and thanks,
jakob sebens
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jakobsebens said:
yeah i know it sounds crazy, but i cannot get used to android and i really dont like google with their ads, i just wnat plain old windows mobile 6.5 i saw a couple of china tablets, but i want a nice powerful device with: indeed, windows mobile.
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I can sell you my Touch Diamond. It runs WinMo 6.5 and from reading your posts this seems just what you need.
Tell you what let's just swap my TD for your Transformer and we both win?
I'm completely speechless. I have to admit this is the first time I've seen this question asked.......hmmmmm......ahhhhhhhh.......well........WHY?
well, the point is: i dont like android, and google will gather all my private data with the add program. i don't like it. the point is that i have wonderfull software that i use for my htc x7500 with windows mobile, and i like an upgrade for it. saw the asus and i was in love. so what if i give the one who ports windows mobile for me on that device gets an eee pad transformer for present?
jakobsebens said:
well, the point is: i dont like android, and google will gather all my private data with the add program. i don't like it. the point is that i have wonderfull software that i use for my htc x7500 with windows mobile, and i like an upgrade for it. saw the asus and i was in love. so what if i give the one who ports windows mobile for me on that device gets an eee pad transformer for present?
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You would need to contact Microsoft and get them port Windoze to ARM architecture based processors and wait till they oblige.
As far as I can see this message thread is not going anywhere in its short life span - as you are in the wrong forum if you don't like Android and so this message thread would be killed in no time as being completely pointless.
hi,
you'de better close it, no one wants to do this. well, thank you for your help and i am going to look for an windows mobile tablet.
thanks,
jakobsebens
jakobsebens said:
hi,
you'de better close it, no one wants to do this. well, thank you for your help and i am going to look for an windows mobile tablet.
thanks,
jakobsebens
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Well, here you go....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQ-YF0NEQA
Definitely not for me. Seem to be lacking in touch responsiveness, much like my WinMo phone was.
I was a good WinMo user for a few years, but then I got my Captivate. It was a much better experience. WinMo was just too dated, slow and less finger friendly. I waited a bit to see if MS would get something competitive out, but they took to long and I moved to Android.
WP7 seems like a good OS with potential, but I'm not making the switch at this point. Already invested in Android and it does what I need. Now when Windows 8 makes the rounds I'll be keeping an eye on it.

Android and Windows 8 on Asus Infinity

Can anyone clarify would it be even possible to get Android and Windows 8 running on the Asus Infinity?
Technically? Yes, I think so. The WinRT version of the surface uses Tegra 3, so it'd be like doing an Android SDK port.
Legally? Absolutely not. Asus didnt pay for the Infinity to be licensed for winRT. If it does get done, you certainly wont be hearing about it here.
Then again, that hasnt stopped the HD2 people from freely discussing and using WP7 here, so maybe I"m missing something.
Thanks thats good to know. Someone mentioned it that it is possible to have Android and Windows 8 on the Asus Infinity but I thought I would ask on here for clarification. Sounds like its the Tab to get with this possibility instead of a Win 8 Tab which everyone knows won't be long until there here also.
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I'm not so sure about that. WinRT is closed source, so any attempts to get it working will be kludgy if the HD2's WP7 port (and Android SDK ports in general) is any indication. You'll probably have much better luck getting a native WinRT/Win8 tablet and hacking Android onto it.
Could definitely see Ubuntu working on it at some point though.
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pixel-painter said:
Could definitely see Ubuntu working on it at some point though.
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I'd rather see Ubuntu than Windows. I have a Windows laptop...I don't need a Windows tablet lol. This is my performance device, the tablet is my fun device (that I'm going to use for taking notes as well)
KilerG said:
I'd rather see Ubuntu than Windows. I have a Windows laptop...I don't need a Windows tablet lol. This is my performance device, the tablet is my fun device (that I'm going to use for taking notes as well)
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If history is any indication, we'll get Ubuntu. The TF101 got it natively, a TF201 native version is in progress, and if you dont mind a somewhat slow UI you could always run it in a chroot with root and vnc.
Jotokun said:
If history is any indication, we'll get Ubuntu. The TF101 got it natively, a TF201 native version is in progress, and if you dont mind a somewhat slow UI you could always run it in a chroot with root and vnc.
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Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
KilerG said:
Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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How much tablet-optimized is Ubuntu? Is there a difference between running Ubuntu and Windows 7 under a 10" FHD tablet? (apart from commandline and the obvious)
d14b0ll0s said:
How much tablet-optimized is Ubuntu? Is there a difference between running Ubuntu and Windows 7 under a 10" FHD tablet? (apart from commandline and the obvious)
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Depends entirely on how you have things set up, but in general Ubuntu isnt that great as a tablet OS unless your using Untiy which isnt exactly light on ram use. The appeal here is more for dock owners seeking a desktop like experience.
I guess it would be similar to Win7, since both would make use of on-screen keyboards but otherwise show a mouse oriented desktop.
Compared to Win8, its a bit kludgy since a native install of Ubuntu would have to reboot into Android for a tablet UI whereas Win8 has metro. A chroot install would be able to easily drop in and out of the desktop, but then you'd have to use VNC which means the desktop UI would be kinda slow. Good enough for, say, office or photo editing but not for viewing videos or playing games.
What about Gentoo?
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KilerG said:
Nice, I'd love to run Ubuntu on this thing, especially if it runs nice with the dock. Then I basically have a netbook lol. I haven't really gotten into Ubuntu too much, but I'd love to try it. I have no room to install it on my laptop lol.
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Actually you could install it to a USB drive...no problem....for your laptop.
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pixel-painter said:
Actually you could install it to a USB drive...no problem....for your laptop.
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Didn't think of that...I don't have one on hand though. It'd be nice on something more portable though.
ubuntu live cd mate

Why can't Android replace Desktop OSes?

Android x86 works fine on my notebook PC. And, I can do almost everything with it: Ranging from web surfing to programming.
But still, nobody cares about it. Why?
What's really the advantages of desktop OSes over Android? Why don't OEMs ship computers with Android as primary OS? Why don't people think Android when PC comes in mind?
I'll tell you why, Windows sells and people buy! Microsoft has the consumer market all tied up with the PC. Most consumers couldn't care less about programming, hacking, developing, etc... web surfing and Facebook and emailing? Yeah, that's what they want. Now, another question: why would people who purchase a PC want to pay additionally or inclusively to the price of a PC for Windows OS, when most distros of Linux are absolutely free? I'm running an Ubuntu 12.04 LTS/Win7 setup on my laptop. I'm getting closer and closer each day to wiping Win7 completely off, but have some reservations in doing so. Anyhow, my two cents worth...
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Windows comes first for game developers. That is why I dual boot. if Linux got love from from game devs it would have a better chance at success. The other issue would be driver compatibility, although this has gotten a lot better.
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muddflap said:
Windows comes first for game developers. That is why I dual boot. if Linux got love from from game devs it would have a better chance at success.
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I am talking about Android, not normal Linux. I think, Android does have nice games..
Well, when the time comes for a full fledged OS, Android is still lacking in apps for that. One step in the right direction will be to multiply the current variety of tablet apps.
Make more apps have tablet optimisation and then we can talk about desktop apps.
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Well, once I can root any Android from an Android, Sign me up. Meanwhile I gotta bow to the all mighty glass structure.
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It wont happen for another 100 years.
I like my skateboard. But, I wouldn't go highway on it.
Same thing.
IceBean said:
I like my skateboard. But, I wouldn't go highway on it.
Same thing.
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What most people do: Facebook, Email, Chat, Casual Gaming
Do you think, Android isn't suitable for that?
It's not the same thing!
SachinShekhar said:
What most people do: Facebook, Email, Chat, Casual Gaming
Do you think, Android isn't suitable for that?
It's not the same thing!
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Your answer is also a point against android as a viable desktop, by that I mean a desktop should be able to do more than just "what most people do".
That and you can't just download and install hardware drivers for android so it renders a lot of peripherals only useable with pc mac or linux.
Android can be a desktop if you don't tax your pc with more demanding tasks such as audio or video editing. Once you want to do anything more specific than gaming or browsing android does not yet offer the ability to.
I think it is viable but because it is not designed to be anything more than a mobile operating system it would struggle to be a desktop replacement.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Your answer is also a point against android as a viable desktop, by that I mean a desktop should be able to do more than just "what most people do".
That and you can't just download and install hardware drivers for android so it renders a lot of peripherals only useable with pc mac or linux.
Android can be a desktop if you don't tax your pc with more demanding tasks such as audio or video editing. Once you want to do anything more specific than gaming or browsing android does not yet offer the ability to.
I think it is viable but because it is not designed to be anything more than a mobile operating system it would struggle to be a desktop replacement.
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Initially, even Windows didn't have such high-end apps. After bringing Android to mainstream, those types of apps will appear on Android, for sure.
SachinShekhar said:
Initially, even Windows didn't have such high-end apps. After bringing Android to mainstream, those types of apps will appear on Android, for sure.
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As soon as windows came out it was not long before the programs were available, android works differently to windows (for example in its use of user installable drivers) and is, unlike windows, not designed to be a desktop so the apps don't or perhaps cannot in some cases (such as adobe type video editing software) be made that will enable android to meet all pc desktop needs.
Dave
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The future android versions may change depending on the team's direction though.
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Markuzy said:
The future android versions may change depending on the team's direction though.
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That's true, I think ics was more desktop friendly than say gingerbread and I would love an android desktop
Dave
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Markuzy said:
The future android versions may change depending on the team's direction though.
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I agree..
Let me correct myself.
I actually don't think Android is as low performing as a skateboard.
At best, I think it's more like a scooter. It gets a job done if it's about taking you to point A to B. And, that's pretty much it at this point.
A car, on the other hand, can do many more things. It is far more versatile. It stands against the weather. It can carry all your family members. It is far more powerful...etc.
Remember old days of laptops? In those days, people with a laptop also had to have desktops although same OS was being used. It was because laptops weren't just powerful enough to suit higher end tasks. The situation is similar in that regard.
For you, Android and supporting hardware and apps might be good enough to replace desktop. However, it isn't so for majority of people and that's the point. A desktop OS needs ability to support all types of usage scenarios, not to mention hardware.
Can current Android do it? No.
Android isn't a desktop OS. Its built for touch and feels pretty limited when being controlled via mouse/kb. Ubuntu would be a better choice since its a decent well established desktop OS, especially when the Ubuntu on Android project is out allowing android apps to run on Ubuntu and vice versa. I'd love to see the popularity of Android help Ubuntu.
IceBean said:
Let me correct myself.
I actually don't think Android is as low performing as a skateboard.
At best, I think it's more like a scooter. It gets a job done if it's about taking you to point A to B. And, that's pretty much it at this point.
A car, on the other hand, can do many more things. It is far more versatile. It stands against the weather. It can carry all your family members. It is far more powerful...etc.
Remember old days of laptops? In those days, people with a laptop also had to have desktops although same OS was being used. It was because laptops weren't just powerful enough to suit higher end tasks. The situation is similar in that regard.
For you, Android and supporting hardware and apps might be good enough to replace desktop. However, it isn't so for majority of people and that's the point. A desktop OS needs ability to support all types of usage scenarios, not to mention hardware.
Can current Android do it? No.
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I was talking about majority of people (not myself). That's why Google launched Chrome OS.
According to surveys, most of people do those things with Desktop PCs which is possible with Android devices.
Android is more powerful than Chrome OS. If Chrome OS can go to commercial Laptops, why can't Android?
spunker88 said:
Android isn't a desktop OS. Its built for touch and feels pretty limited when being controlled via mouse/kb. Ubuntu would be a better choice since its a decent well established desktop OS, especially when the Ubuntu on Android project is out allowing android apps to run on Ubuntu and vice versa. I'd love to see the popularity of Android help Ubuntu.
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You do have point.
We can use mouse, but it feels pretty limited.
But, what if someone says, you'll become used to after using that continuously. You may not like dragging welcome screen of Windows 8 at this time, but you'll love it once its in your mainstream.
Its actually being worked by one Linux company .
Take off off an app based Linux,Android desktop will happen .
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